Female acquaintance hitting the wall and settling for beta bux. I fucking cringed at how accurate TRP is.

pcadrian · 2014-04-01T23:22:03+00:00

I think you misinterpreted this:

she had partners in the range of 10-20, spanning from short relationships to LTRs. No, one-night stands

She really means not counting one-night stands.

blarsen80 · 2014-04-01T21:16:37+00:00

Sounds like someone just paid full retail price for a used 10-year old BMW. Sure, it's a BMW, but it's got 200,000 miles on it.

It was his dream car! He'd pay any price! LOL

angryadult · 2014-04-01T22:14:04+00:00

Before he can become strong, he has to admit his weakness.

He just "got the girl" in his eyes -- he's the strongest motherfucker out there. It's proving him right on all of his inner workings. You're nice enough, for long enough, and that beautiful girl will "come around" and realize the guy she wanted was right there for so long. It's so cliche that it's the basis of every romantic comedy movie ever -- more or less.

It's not until she cheats on him, or berates him for a decade, or... whatever. He needs to realize his internal weakness, and he has to do it himself. You can't explain TRP to him and have him think you've got it figured out -- he's getting his nut with her.

Don't be pissed at him, don't be sympathetic for him. We all know he's not living the best possible life, but I'm sure that none of us are.

rico_montoya · 2014-04-01T20:29:52+00:00

Bet $1,000 that she'll make him "wait" for sex, but probably screw other dudes on the side until she can find the next branch to swing to. She can take her sweet time not putting out, the dude sounds like he's the type of beta that's none the wiser and will gladly snuggle with his princess for months before attempting to get balls deep in her.

Wonder how long she stays with this dude. O/U: 3.5 months. Place your bets.

cagethepepper · 2014-04-01T20:38:14+00:00

Am I the only one who can't wait to see the Wall happening to girls that I know? So morbidly curious.

okayawayaccount · 2014-04-01T22:29:01+00:00

Why hate him? He just doesn't know. I won't speak for you, but I'm sure a large number of guys on here (myself included) were like that at some point before discovering the TRP or gaining experience. Even then, I rejected it for a while because of the same reasons why other people on this site reject it. I've done the whole "I'm in love with you/I have feelings for you" bullshit for a friend before because I just didn't know, even after losing my virginity, discovering Seddit and getting laid through confidence. Despite all of that, I failed to see the bigger picture and still idealized a "perfect relationship" with "a girl who truly gets me." I think hating some guy or advocating eugenics just because he doesn't know or might resist that which will yield him greater benefit and shield him from unnecessary loss and pain further reinforces negative conceptions and connotations people associate with this sub, which is unproductive if we want to help men at large have more successful relationships, form a positive masculine identity, and lower the average SMP value of women (ugh... I feel so weird even typing that out... but it's true from a realist perspective.)

I hope he learns his lesson and gains experience, and to that end, goes through the pain and suffering that is inevitable, but shaming someone because they "don't get it" is unhelpful. This is kind of like women slut-shaming women, but instead, it's men "beta-shaming" men.

Honestly, this is, in part, why I feel like people look at this sub askance. Rather than seeing how this sub is trying to help others understand the empirical mating habits of heterosexual men and women and helping men become better people, unhinged from the validation of others in general, people will open up this sub and see something like

Witnessing this live, and in person, really disgusted me and, surprisingly, instead of feeling bad for the guy, I feel almost angry at him, and I despise his weakness, he makes me sick and disgusts me and I'm happy that he gets what he deserves. I hope he's sterile, she gets pregnant with some alpha cock, and he gets to raise his child.

I mean, on one hand I "get it," and yet, to me, this just seems like a caricature of TRP that /r/thebluepill would joke about. Sure, he's weak for it, so the fuck what? This isn't a literal war. By despising him for his weakness and hoping he's sterile and gets screwed over by this girl, you're merely reinforcing the trope about this sub as well as revealing more about yourself than you would think.

Dreamtrain · 2014-04-01T22:13:46+00:00

The guy, FOR 3 FUCKING YEARS, used to message her almost daily telling her good morning and good night.

I been there and damn, when you see life from a blue shade it just feels so natural you know, you just want to express affection, your mind by itself just devices idea after idea on how I could make her smile right now, how can I make the rest of her day? Seeing her smile from what you came up with this time and depend on you so much just fuels you to think of new better ways to make life more beautiful for her. But then life happens, reality comes crashing down.

Time goes on, months and months and eventually somebody new makes you feel she's worthy of your affection. And the madness repeats.

Then somewhere after a decade, you start to wonder, I did all of those things but nobody didn't even show half as much affection, nor has anyone ever tried anything for me without me asking, so who will? But nobody will. Because absolutely nobody owes you anything. You owe it to yourself. And that's just one of many things you slowly start to realize. At first you resist, but as the blue tints that now are purple slowly starts getting redder, things start to make sense.

USmellFunny · 2014-04-01T20:49:43+00:00

I hope he's sterile, she gets pregnant with some alpha cock, and he gets to raise his child.

He's not to blame that the media and the feminist culture brainwashes men to be betas. I've been like him once and most likely you've been as well. I understand why you're angry but the anger shouldn't be directed at him, he should be pitied. He's just another victim of the system.

DarkSayed · 2014-04-01T20:09:48+00:00

Fuck him, he's probably a white knight. You know the kind tht would have a go at you for having "backward" views on women and sexuality.

MrTacticool · 2014-04-01T20:21:39+00:00

For his sake I hope he's getting laid. If not then he's a sucker.

1independentmale · 2014-04-01T22:35:08+00:00

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mordanus · 2014-04-01T20:00:04+00:00

Harsh words man but I don't disagree with any of them. We deserve what we get for being beta.

watersign · 2014-04-01T23:47:24+00:00

Women being women..lol. Don't hate the guy, hes probably never had anyone show him affection and hes yearning for it.

sweetleef · 2014-04-02T03:14:01+00:00

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spandestic · 2014-04-02T05:04:46+00:00

I hope he's sterile, she gets pregnant with some alpha cock, and he gets to raise his child.

Weak though he is, I would never wish this fate on any man. This is wicked. This is evil. I am not exaggerating. Being conned into raising a child that is not your own is worse than never having children.

Teeth_of_Lions · 2014-04-02T04:15:37+00:00

Some people do not mind being used. They only care if they are discarded.

a_chill_bro · 2014-04-01T21:25:54+00:00

The worst part is he's probably ecstatic about her moving in. His "dream girl" finally wants him. This is going to end badly.

birdman201211 · 2014-04-01T19:48:28+00:00

Clearly the guy is delusioned, I say give him a heads up of what's really going on, if he doesn't want to listen that's on him, but I think you have an obligation, or atleast a favor, to let this guy know the deal. If he still continues, well you know the saying you can lead a horse to water...

IllimitableMan · 2014-04-01T22:47:23+00:00

She's a textbook bitch hitting the wall.

He's a textbook beta raised to be taken for a ride like this.

The whole blue pill sham of an idea of what relationships are about is fucking pathetic. She's using him and when she gets something better, she will divorce rape him and move on.

He put a ton of kindness coins into her and now he thinks he's won the lottery. Poor sucker.

Shit is vile.

He needs a backbone. She's doing what any chick hitting the wall does when she's out of money. Attaching herself to the nearest available dick offering financial incentives.

She must have really hit rock bottom to "cash in the balls in her purse" now she's cashed in her suckered friend zone chump it's a branch swing all the way back up the tree of romantic bullshit and thus the cycle continues.

Fucking honestly.

JohnnK · 2014-04-01T23:54:54+00:00

My facebook is full of girls who used to be party animals and pretty hot. Almost all of them ended up with a weird goober looking guy that they wouldn't have pissed on if he was on fire 10 years prior. Many of those same chicks were single mothers before finding their white-knight in shining credit armor.

Now I see these pictures on their timeline of romantic walks on the beach with their kids from some other dude and their new goober husbands. In some of these cases, I'm sure the new husband has no idea. However, some of these chicks had kids by guys that should have been a red flag. I mean, if you're dating a chick and her baby's father comes over and you see the guy has fucking neck tattoos and tear drops, that may be a good time to GTFO of that relationship. But nope, they don't. It's fascinating.

seminalheminal · 2014-04-02T04:02:08+00:00

I despise his weakness, he makes me sick and disgusts me and I'm happy that he gets what he deserves. I hope he's sterile, she gets pregnant with some alpha cock, and he gets to raise his child.

You can live a RP life without taking pleasure in the suffering of others or being a bad person. Do you know a lot about this guy? You have no idea what he has been through, or what his life is like. I certainly am NOT arguing that he is being used, and it is depressing and pathetic. But at the same time you should reflect on why you are willing to let such anger and hate distract you. You are able to live a RP life, see the mistakes of others, and also not be a hate filled person. Letting hate in is easy.

Lackrome · 2014-04-01T20:47:52+00:00

Poor sod, it's not his fault society forced this unrealistic dogma of sexuality on him at such an early age. I bet he means well, but he's not going to win in the end. In all seriousness I hope he discovers the truth or finds some other woman who will love him.

embarassed_sub · 2014-04-02T02:53:10+00:00

Reading shit like this makes me so glad I got beta burned in my teens instead of when I actually had money. Hoooooooly shit.

everclearandmild · 2014-04-02T03:41:01+00:00

I used to be one of these guys. Saying he deserves what he gets is like saying a blind man deserves fall into an open manhole.

It's ignorance, that man is completely in the dark and he doesn't even realize it. He's so desperate for some shred of reciprocation that his tunnel vision has clouded every bit of rationality he has. It's like a drug, but one you didn't know you were taking and didn't know you were hooked on.

I just hope he wakes the fuck up. This is a sad lesson I learned as a teenager. He probably doesn't even have the kind of male friends that could talk sense into him. She's most likely isolated him and will continue to until she's done using him. It really does make me feel sick, especially to see someone at that age be so damn unaware.

symko · 2014-04-02T00:32:31+00:00

I remember one night during a campfire (bonfire) event, several years ago, I observed a large moth fly past me and right into the fire. His body made a loud cracking sound as it burnt in the flames.

Some Beta's despite the "warnings" given in life are content to fly right into the flames. No amount of warnings, advice, talks over beer will fix this. They will either see the problem and adapt to the changes or get mad at you for holding them up on the way to the fire. In turn they become examples to those seeking TRP.

Be glad you woke up and corrected that shit, otherwise you'd be an example to someone else.

2014-04-02T00:34:39+00:00

Well put, bro. The Matrix analogy is so apt b/c you after you grasp TRP you rlly can't go back to how you naively perceived things before; you can't unsee the now obvious; and you get pissed when other dude's can't see it at all.

The way the whole thing works tho is that this Succubus will sooner or later end up banging his friends, bankrupting him, then breaking his beta heart as she dumps him for an Alpha when her life situation improves. And his suicidal pain will also be the first pangs of a pre-mature enlightenment that leads him here - to TRP. Time is a flat circle.

omnidirectional · 2014-04-02T00:57:21+00:00

Send the guy this thread.

Politikon · 2014-04-02T03:29:44+00:00

Man...I have a very similar story. Recently, my ex gf of 3 years (she's 25 now) just started dating her primary orbiter. He's been waiting for his moment to shine for almost a decade now. He was always ready to be her emotional tampon whenever I had issues with her, and it was easy to tell he wanted more even in my blue pill days, but I never saw him as a threat because he was, "too ugly," for her. It annoyed me regardless how much of a doormat he was for her.

Well here we are now. I haven't been dating her officially for over a year, got a new way better gf (Im well aware unicorns don't exist), raising my SMV Via self-improvement, and through Facebook it looks like my ex is becoming a hambeast.

I spoke to her briefly after I found out that they were dating to confirm my RP suspicions, and red pill theory lines up perfectly with what happened.

After I made it clear I was completely done with her the two started hanging out a lot more, under the guise of friendship of course. Eventually orbiter prime makes his move, and asks to go out seriously. She didn't want to initially, but she was afraid to lose his steady validation supply, and I guess no one else has tried to court her for months, so she accepted. He had also recently moved into an apartment and she lives with the parents still.

Although she admitted that she felt he wasn't attractive, she told me that she eventually realized that her standards were too high and learned to grow attraction towards him...mmhm.

I asked if she treats him like her bitch. She said, "well, he cares for me a lot, sometimes too much you know?"

She then tried to convince me that she still felt the same way about me blahblahblah.

I cut contact with her the next day, content in knowing that orbiter prime was about to be cuckolded by the girl of his dreams finally, and eventually cheated on if an alpha ever decides to give her the time of day.

bonekeeper · 2014-04-02T00:02:26+00:00

Nice guys finish last!

AgentSmith27 · 2014-04-02T05:08:46+00:00

Personally, I'm not sure what the problem is with these types of scenarios. Before you downvote, hear me out.

Sex is a competition... but its a very different game than it used to be. When you get down to it, sex is about ensuring survival of your offspring. This used to be purely about genetic health, but not anymore. The human race formed complex civilization, and now other f actors come into play. Money is a big one. Having two present, and working, parents is another. Having a father who will properly support a raise a child is very important. Single moms end up poor, the kid is likely to end up poor, and there is less of a chance of thriving.

Lets face it. The only chance a lot of guys have at getting a good looking girl is by providing her something else other than their looks. Money, security, being a good father figure all fit this criteria. Going even further, women can even value this more than looks when it comes time to have kids.

The guys who give a child the best chance at survival will get to reproduce. Period. This is evolution at work.

Not sure where all the negativity comes from. If the goal of this sub is to make yourselves more genuinely appealing, then its worth understanding how money and other factors fit in at different points in women's lives.

RPstudent · 2014-04-01T20:23:38+00:00

He is so screwed

While looks and masculine physical triggers in men are still an important attraction factor, her desire for a personal association with a man’s status and affluence begin to sublimate her physical priorities for attraction as she increasingly realizes the necessity of these attributes for her (and any offspring’s) long term provisioning. It should be noted that the appeal of a man’s potential for provisioning is proportional to her actual (or perceived) need for that provisioning.

sadshark · 2014-04-01T21:27:55+00:00

In this guy's defense, once in my life I've had lightening strike. She was not terribly pretty, or sane, or tall, or great genes, but someting in this girl filled my blood with heroin. Perhaps this guy feels the same? Karen was her name. I'd let that women walk all over me just to be near her. I generally don't fall in love with women. Every male potentially has someone like this out there, although you may never meet her. You will know it when you do. WTF is the reaction.

culofiesta · 2014-04-01T20:33:07+00:00

Don't feel sorry for him, just watch the whole thing crash and burn from the sidelines.

Fundumpsters · 2014-04-01T21:24:55+00:00

From her words she didn't ride the cock carousel

Women picked up on this term already?

2014-04-02T00:18:44+00:00

Well I find that the anger I feel when I see the other weak guys who fall for this is because it reminds me of how weak I used to be as an individual. How I had no clue, no exposure, to how a relationship works.

So totally agree, it's a validation loop that is bad for her, him, and society as a whole if they have kids.

But the anger could be a reminder that you still have a way to go before really being beyond things.

Solid post, ty sadshark.

AuctionSniper · 2014-04-02T00:55:32+00:00

If you haven't, why not just tell him? You're getting angry and and saying beta this and beta that, but if you don't tell him, aren't you perpetuating the cycle?

Either he can choose to deny what you tell him, or he can accept the truth. Even if he doesn't accept it right then, he may come to his senses later.

duckducklandwhale · 2014-04-02T00:58:54+00:00

I dont feel sorry for that sucker at all.

Silverbacked · 2014-04-02T04:40:34+00:00

This is in no way related to the fact that she got fired from work and can't afford rent anymore. So, she gives the guy a 'chance' (wasn't he supposed to only want her friendship?), they become a 'couple' and AFTER 3 (three) DAYS, she moves in with him. The full deal, all clothes, all possessions, everything.

Chris Rock spells it out.

jagrmeister721 · 2014-04-02T06:57:45+00:00

This is far too common. A FWB of mine moved in with another guy about a month after the last time we hooked up. She is no longer doing a FT job, living with him without paying rent. My attitude towards the guy is neither anger nor sympathy- but I do feel a compulsion for spreading the Red Pill because it has seriously improved my quality of life.

richardnorth · 2014-04-02T19:05:16+00:00

you shouldn't hate the guy brah, it's not really his fault he's like that. you should anonymously send him him some red pill philosophy instead

u432457 · 2014-04-02T03:31:30+00:00

Here's a real red pill. Why the anger at him? He played the beta strategy and it worked. It doesn't always work, but it worked for him.

Yes, his woman has been "used" many times already. By "alphas", who didn't bother to reproduce.

She's 27, which gives her about 8 good years to carry his children, plenty enough for the 2.4 required to continue his genes into the next generation.

Since she's hit the wall, that means she knows her best strategy is to stick to him. Maybe she'll cheat on him anyway; old habits die hard.

PUA theory is great, but sometimes it ignores the purpose of sex.

niceguy_gone_cad · 2014-04-01T20:42:39+00:00

Witnessing this live, and in person, really disgusted me and, surprisingly, instead of feeling bad for the guy, I feel almost angry at him, and I despise his weakness, he makes me sick and disgusts me and I'm happy that he gets what he deserves.

Same here. It's that kind of "men" who make possible for so much women ride the carousel with no consequences and disrupt the hell out of the sexual market. So many out there, their numbers growing by the day.

adamlikesprettygirls · 2014-04-02T04:54:16+00:00

ew man thats kind of disgusting. yeah, that dude for sure, but mostly your reaction.

FortunateBum · 2014-04-01T21:53:42+00:00

Don't feel sorry for him. He won. Beta game can work, but as you can see, you got to play it long-term.

BluepillProfessor · 2014-04-02T04:35:57+00:00

Beta game at its finest or worst case of one-itis ever reported? Or both?

windbagfeminist · 2014-04-02T12:32:12+00:00

It's sort of like reading about war crimes then being a fucking trooper in the trenches.

2014-04-02T13:40:46+00:00

Damn. Every time I read something like that I'm thankful that where I live we have only "light" versions of this (and real beer).

mr_throwz · 2014-04-02T23:53:13+00:00

I actually got involved with some chick who was hitting the wall a few years ago. She already had 1 (monstrously misbehaved and maladjusted) 8 year old son... she had some degenerative condition in her shoulders so she couldn't work and was on a fent patch. I was homeless at the time. She scooped me up and brought me to dinner then back to her place and offered me a spot in her bed with her. We "dated" for a few weeks but I bounced after I tried to score and she said "I won't have sex with you until you get a job."

john-b · 2014-04-03T09:27:51+00:00

A similar situation is happening to my friend right now. Shes close to 30. He's our age (24). Dated her long distance for 4 years. He wasn't friendzoned, however he is a massive beta and she treats him as such. Long story short he abandoned his whole family to live with her and he pays all the bills. Got a chance to read some of their skype chats his bro found and screenshotted.

I dont even feel bad for him. I am angry beyond belief he could be so weak. We were all once weak but he is the extreme of weak. Not only that he celebrates his weakness after I confronted him via paragraphs.

RidleySmith · 2014-05-31T00:14:58+00:00

Jesus that's harsh. But I guess it's his responsibility to sort his shit out and not be such a beta

_grump · 2014-04-01T22:55:38+00:00

You need to tell this guy man. Send him an anonymous but well worded letter, then you can rest easy knowing you tried.

SweetSonOfABitch · 2014-04-02T06:37:54+00:00

From her words she didn't ride the cock carousel as hard as other 27yo females, but nonetheless she had partners in the range of 10-20

Allahu Akbar!

flatox · 2014-04-02T06:51:17+00:00

Tell him about the pill. You cant be angry at him unless he knows the pill but refuses it

2014-04-02T15:15:17+00:00

Sadshark, you're a fucking loser.

This should be the only thing anybody takes away from this pathetic story.

Jake0024 · 2014-04-02T01:52:50+00:00

That's great, they're both low value and they ended up together. Why hate? Be happy for them and stop wasting your time and energy being hung up on their negative bullshit.

The only reason to get upset if this girl is with some schmuck and you wanted her for yourself--but you said she's hitting the wall, so let her go do her thing.

EDIT: See this thread for the same argument.

aaronsharif · 2014-04-01T23:13:55+00:00

fucking betas, may alphas help their souls

major_tom38 · 2014-04-02T06:16:03+00:00

Gaaaahhhh too much Red Pill for today!

83729105 · 2014-04-02T06:37:40+00:00

I mean at least the dudes hittin it... even if she cheats on him, hes STILL hittin it

Title	Female acquaintance hitting the wall and settling for beta bux. I fucking cringed at how accurate TRP is.
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