GamerGate: A personal reflection on what brought me to TRP

vengefully_yours · 2017-01-19T02:03:44+00:00

Gamergate was amusing to me, could see through the bullshit easily. Then again I'm nearly 50 and have seen this shit before.

What brought me here was my second divorce. I vetted her for 7 years, was aloof, ready to dump her ass at the slightest provocation or crazy outburst. I was tired of the bullshit girls do, and thought I found a different one, and put up with her plain to homely appearance. The fucking was great though, she was a virgin I popped, I was the only one in there for 7 years.

Then she did the same stupid shit every girl before her has done. I can spot cheating before they do it, they change subtly, but I've seen it so often it's glaringly obvious to me. I wanted to know why she changed, then cheated when she is so very different than the rest. That's why I am here.

I committed, relaxed, she thought I wasn't going anywhere with my resources and income. She mistakenly believed I'd support her while she fucked someone and not me. That and a prolonged illness is all it took to get her looking around.

Remember how I said she was homely? I realized that no man better than I would ever bother with her. I am still right about that. I became complacent about it. The illness sapped my strength, leaving me inactive for months. That wore me down mentally as well, going from very active to very sedentary in a weeks time. I felt useless. I was too.

I had to fall quite a distance for her loser of a boyfriend to get in there. They only need to appear better, not actually be better than you. If you slip for any reason, all you have to rely on its game and frame. I'm better off now, she is going downhill fast. My life is heading upwards, hers down. She is 34, I am 47, so her slide will increase every month until nobody wants her and she is alone with cats.

The effect of the man doing better doesn't happen every time, but it happens often. I've been fucking girls half my age who look far hotter than any of my ex's. It's easier now than it was on my 20s. I'm still building my life, improving, getting better. That's why it's easier for me now.

That's what brought me here, I've been red since I was 16 and learned how to read girls. My biggest mistake was getting complacent, trusting them to do the right thing, and treating them like they matter to me. That is what trp pointed out to me.

redpillschool · 2017-01-20T00:46:10+00:00

Anybody who hasn't played our version of Zoe Quinn's Depression quest needs to get their asses over there now:

http://slutquest.puerarchy.com

You're really getting railed now.

What will you do?

[1] Fuck me right in the oppression David!

[2] Your privilege is so big!

shockred · 2017-01-18T23:22:45+00:00

I discovered the PUA community about 7 years ago. I fell in love with a girl and wanted to get her. I did a "crash course" on PUA stuff I could find at the time and I did manage to get her. This PUA stuff wasn't redpill. Woman behaviour was a mistery to me, I had only learned to push some buttons. I was 100% blue pill and wanted her only and no one else.

I kept the illusion of power in the relationship for 2-3 years... Started going to the gym and so on. But eventually I stopped improving.

You can already guess how it ended. It took a lot of time - 6 years - but eventually she cheated (it is possible she cheated before, but this was when I found out about it). She broke my heart. I couldn't understand how she could have done that. I couldn't have imagined doing the same to her. I was about to propose. She was my oneitis for all those years. I had several opportunities to cheat but never did.

I broke up with her about 4 months ago.

I spent two months feeling depressed and lonely. Then I started googling about the PUA stuff again, and that eventually led me to the red pill.

I feel the "regular" PUA stuff just gives you some tricks to work with, but no real foundation. Red pill is different. It gives you the foundation to build or rebuild your life on.

I read the sidebar and it really was like unplugging. I never thought about what made women tick, I just went through life on autopilot and expected men and women to treat me as I treated them. Obviously, this meant I got used by people a lot (and was something my ex didn't like about me). No more.

I've been improving myself since. I have fucked 2 girls since the breakup, and have 7 more potentials I'm in contact with. I have never had this much female attention in my life. And I feel I could be doing so much more - I'm not yet going out to the clubs and gaming women there.

I have absolutely no intention to get into a LTR, though both the girls I've been with wanted it.

TRP gave me a feeling of control over my life, the foundation to build it on and the motivation to start improving. I'm grateful.

sir_wankalot_here · 2017-01-18T22:41:55+00:00

At the time, being older, I didn't realize the importance of gamergate. The socialist Marxists used to be able to get away with pushing a certain agenda because they rely heavily on gaslighting. They are ruthless in that the same tactics which they accuse others of doing, like cyberbullying, they do themselves

Puzzle pieces you could always grasp but didn't have the right frame of reference to fit them all into a bigger picture. Pure truth distilled into cold, hard facts.

This is the effects of gaslighting, something which women could get away with for thousands of years. Example, is female mass murders, women who would murder their husbands for money. Usually they would employ poison, it wasn't until the 1900s when forensic science advanced to the point where they could detect poison they started to get caught.

Anyone who read the Zoe Post could plainly see her deeply calculating personality laid bare. The chat logs were there, raw and real. Did anybody actually read the thing before jumping to her defense?

The SJW pushes an agenda which certain members profit from, facts do not matter, they rely on emotions. The SJW at its core is ruthless.

Myself I found TRP a couple years back, some SJW where posting about how it is misogynist, I wanted to find out what it is about. I found out it is basically social evolution.

Insydeinformation · 2017-01-19T02:10:00+00:00

Discovered it on my own for the most part. I learned the 'alpha' part from my dad and others. The men's rights part I knew when I was four years old.

In my preschool, we used to play in the mud (wtf I know) for "recess." The girls had some indoor enclosed shower area, but they just had the boys out there naked and sprayed us with a water hose. Believe it or not, the anti-male sexism got worse from there. By the time I got out of school, my personality had changed from a normal adventurous boy to a lobotomized Adderall robot. If I met some of my female teachers today it I would have difficulty in not physically attacking them. I honestly don't even understand how any man OR woman can grow up from childhood to adulthood and still think men are privileged and women are oppressed. The other boys in my classes didn't even seem to realize how much they were getting shitted on. It's like people are just inherently blind to the shit.

Men as a group are just so fucking dumb, lol - emotional retards who can't see things past the surface level, and they can't tell when they being manipulated. I have so little respect for males after all the stupid shit I've seen. I honestly felt like a different species from most guys growing up. But boy, when I first saw that OTHER guys felt this way it was an indescribable feeling.

TheOneTrueMagnet · 2017-01-20T00:29:06+00:00

I was incredibly blue pill until I was in the military and even then I was discovering it on my own as this was before TRP or I were even on Reddit. When I found TRP, it only reinforced what I was already beginning to notice and brought it together into one coherent theory.

Nothing will slam female nature in your face quite like the military. When the husband/boyfriend are gone for 7 months or more at a time, you get to see a lot of horrendous shit. Girls straight up trade sex with SNCOs for leniency and authority. Wife drops child off at her parents' house in another state to move to yet another state to be a stripper. Young women combing the infantry barracks to get trains run on them in order to see who can fuck the most in one night. Wife beats husband so badly as he tries to escape the house that he has to go to the hospital for stitches where police show up to arrest him for domestic abuse. Same husband is then demoted by the chain of command and his career ruined right then and there. The list only starts there. I could go on and on.

On a side note, if you are doing anything with a girl from the military, especially enlisted, run. Run as fast as you can.

Devius_Dios · 2017-01-19T00:39:29+00:00

A good friend of mine lent me his copy of The Rational Male. I read the first chapter and never looked back.

NeoreactionSafe · 2017-01-18T22:54:01+00:00

It's like finally having words to describe what you always observed but could never articulate. Puzzle pieces you could always grasp but didn't have the right frame of reference to fit them all into a bigger picture. Pure truth distilled into cold, hard facts.

The Red Pill helps you get clarity.

Ultimately the "reality" you begin to see merges closer to others who are on this path towards Truth, but we never entirely agree on anything.

For me it was right after the Elliot Rodger shootings where they claimed ("Fake News") that there was this thing called the Red Pill which was to blame.

Of course once I got here and learned more I realized that was the exact opposite of the Truth ("Fake News") and went on to read more.

After about a month I started regular posting and was nearly banned a few times. The Red Pill has grown so much over the years it's hard to even describe what it was like long ago. (four years or so now)

The Manosphere has become huge.

The "big picture" is never entirely agreed upon here... many voices.

mnemos_1 · 2017-01-20T09:47:59+00:00

Something I'd be curious to hear about, and I think everyone else would as well, is that one "loss of innocence moment" as OP puts it that blew up our BP mindset completely.

My own was the day two of my then-closest friends sat me down and told me that they'd had a threesome with my then-girlfriend.

My BPD, Single-Mom, Alpha-Widow, Gaslighter-Extraodinaire then-girlfriend.

Hindsight is a bitch sometimes.

PizzaSaucez · 2017-01-20T02:30:12+00:00

If anyone here is a video game player try quitting for 3 months. Just do it. I loved them, quitting was one of the best things I've done.

butter_coffee · 2017-01-20T20:06:36+00:00

I got curious and played Depression quest. It is the most cringe-y, asinine B.S in the planet. It's solipsism and narcissism. Almost 100% of the problems could be solved with a RP mindset.

Too scared to socialize? Grow a pair. Can't get out of bed? Don't want to go to work? Marcus Aurelius' says people who don't do their job are not worth being a human being. Self discipline that shit. Too many feefees? Suck it up. Quit making excuses and being a victim. Your brother is more successful than you? Your girlfriend is watching TV, so she must be bored? Quit taking shit personally, man up. "I don't want to work on this project, it's too hard." Work harder, bitch. "Nevermind, I don't want to talk about my feelings." Good. You SHOULD feel that way, it's the goddamn human guilt of being a fucking burden. The whole thing weeps of self centeredness and being a beta in the relationship (no frame, low confidence, no SMV, no ambition, no dread game, etc.)

TomFoo · 2017-01-18T22:30:45+00:00

A little bit of indirect TRP/manosphere history right here. Appreciate the recap and the insight. I'm not a gamer but I've heard of the GamerGate scandal.

Question: Was Gjoni the journalist she was sleeping with who eventually exposed their chat/text thread?

Hillarysdilddo_2016 · 2017-01-19T17:47:35+00:00

Sometime around November of 2013, I signed up for an OKCupid account and got a 98% match with a cutie with colorful hair (cool), who was super into social justice stuff (good!), and was super into video games (neat!), and liked to make them (ah! I used to make them, that was fun times!), and by some coincidence turns out to have made a somewhat esoteric game I happened to have played a while back.

So I messaged her to meet up for drinks — on my birthday.

She seemed pretty cool; I didn’t talk much at first, and mostly listened as she related tales of adversities she’d overcome and how they’d shaped her as a person and fueled her determination to improve the world.

source

God damn this guy is so cucked it's unbelievable. No wonder the western world is crumbling to dust.

GamerGate was the best thing that could happen to these betafried nu-males.

This blooper doesn't realize the bolded parts are major red flags.

Always a victim. Telling some victimization story that is likely highly exaggerated.
Colored hair. Desperate for attention, validation, and uniqueness. No identity, so feels the need to create one.
SJWery. No explanation needed.

To the OP: You could improve your post with references (links). I have no idea if you're talking about anime or people. For example: (who was at that point still with GiantBomb), Mr. Gjoni, the Zoe Post?

It's like finally having words to describe what you always observed but could never articulate.

Yes. This is standard marxism 101. Read Orwell, 1984. They are constantly rejigging the lexicon in an attempt to subvert your mind.

Also, their agents have infiltrated every where, don't forget (((Sarkessian))). Always looking to parasite a few bucks. I think she got a few million from Intel if memory serves me correctly. All for being a liar and a propagandist.

Good times to be in business I suppose.

Newreddawn · 2017-01-19T00:06:22+00:00

Spent most of my early life in LTRs with two low quality women. Tasted something more, couldn't stop searching for that high again. Ended up finding a true friend who told me about Pook and the dj bible. My life has never been the same.

I am not the victim. I'm the champ. Now I have control, and I've made myself so proud ever since. I'll never be perfect. There will always be more to reach for. But I never knew the potential I had until I found the rational male. I feel like I owe pook, rollo, and above all the friend who took the risk of unplugging me for where I am today.

I'm grateful for all the other assholes here too. Every comment, every post is someone taking their time to help the rest of us become true men. This sub is a special place. Keep the stories coming bros. Good idea OP, it's good to remember your roots.

steel_tube · 2017-01-19T15:27:22+00:00

I came into TRP when pk was putting the subreddit together, I was following the seduction subreddit when a bunch of people broke off to form trp after complaining for a while that content was being watered down and feminized.

I had a different experience with gamergate. Obviously we all recognized the issues at play, I admired the work being done to fight back, but the whole thing led me to just quit playing video games completely. The last game I played was Guild Wars 2. It felt to me that all the energy expended on the games front was being wasted, that it could be much better spent on other fronts of the male struggle. I no longer feel that way, gamergate allowed some of our best figures to cut their teeth, it unplugged a huge amount of men, the lessons learned from that fight gave us the power we needed to influence an entire election.

But for me gaming was lost. I have been game free for 3 years, I have too much happening in my life to sit around playing video games without feeling like a schmuck

TruthAndVirtue · 2017-01-20T10:10:08+00:00

Outsider here. I am a reactionary so I like the political aspect of TRP, I just don't really get how how and why the political and personal connects in TRP. To me "feminism, leftism sucks, this is why" and "how to pick up girls" are totally different things. Why and how is it so strongly connected here?

So OP you arrived to TRP through the political side of it. Others mostly seem to do it through the personal side. But how and why does something that political (or let's say social) has any sort of effect on your personal life and personal improvement as well?

To put things differently, I see lifting weights and being boldly bantering with women (Game) something entirely different as fighting SJWs. These things are totally not connected. There are guys who are pretty near alpha and yet and quite strongly plugged in to socjus. Especially when they aren't white as in this case socjus is not hostile to them or not as much. And there are guys who fight socjus day and night but their personal life sucks, they are still just socially shut in fat nerds.

How and why is this two so strongly connected here?

I don't like connecting the personal and the political. My personal life is pretty "normal", I am just an oldschool husband and dad, the whole problem of equality or not equality never really even came up in my marriage, because my wife is not some selfish type, we just cooperate in normal teamwork, I cannot explain that better. Is there a how beta is your marriage test somewhere? Because all the stories I hear here sounds like a beta marriage means you marry a selfish bitch and give in to her demands. When she isn't selfish it is hard to tell if you behave beta or not. For example, I was never ever told to sleep on a couch when we argued, as it would be crazy to throw a person out of their own bed, no normal person even tries an insult like that. So sometimes she decided to sleep on the couch when she was angry at me. Okay. Why not.

While politically I am as reactionary and anti-socjus as it gets, at some I don't really feel any special in my private life. It just works like a normal marriage with its bumps sometimes but OK. Is there are any how beta you are in a marriage test out there? Would be fun to fill it out.

IblizTrigga · 2017-01-19T20:33:02+00:00

Indeed, gamergate was what started me on the path leading to TRP.

I never cared much for gaming media, but the entire quinnspiracy scandal piqued my interest (and outrage) and led me to prominent MRAs and anti-feminists on yt. As I consumed more and more of their media, I came to see the true face of feminism (I would have considered myself a feminist before) and started to harbor resentment for the entire movement, not just the radicals.

While watching a lot of Karen Straughan's vids, I noticed her mention TRP a few times, but had no idea what it was. Being the curious individual that I am, I finally gave in and checked it out on reddit (believing it had connections to the MRM). All-in-all, TRP wasn't what I expected, but it gave me understanding of male-female relationship dynamics and helped me see the whole world, especially women, through an entirely different lens (biggest eye-opener was understanding why women say they want "nice guys", but never leave assholes (AF/BB)... quite the enigma to TBP).

Of course, what proceeded next was the stages of grief, reluctance to give up BP programming, reluctance to start going to the gym, and reluctance to move out of my comfort zone and approach/converse with people (typical TRP beginner stuff). It's an ongoing process, but all I've gained from TRP in the past ~10 months helped make 2016 the best year of my life.

1v1crown · 2017-01-20T17:07:51+00:00

Sigh and yet she is still making thousands a month on Patreon. Fuck this world man.

TryDoingSomethingNew · 2017-01-20T17:40:23+00:00

Not surprised at all. "GamerGate" has a lot of parallels to general RP subjects that bring men here:

Male shaming
Feminism attempting to encroach upon and "sanitize" (read: corrupt, permanently alter, make "safe") a predominantly male area of interest
Manginas joining in to white knight for Thine Fair Maiden, both Ye Common GentleSirs and Sirs of Superiority in the media industry
Woman fucked over a man she was in a relationship with
Slut with nudes in past, turned into a fat SJW with blue hair. Stereotype? CHECK!

I'm sure I'm forgetting some things, too.

Kind of a messed up situation, but it really highlighted how few allies the average, good and normal guy really has. And how the one thing (games) that many guys have retreated to in today's anti-male society is now being encroached upon by these failures of humanity. And also how easily a woman playing the victim role can run a scam and rocket to notoriety and cash and prizes along the way.

WillyWonka321 · 2017-01-20T13:34:37+00:00

When I discovered the redpill I felt like I was being baptized in a pool of simmering acid.As I read every line of what was my first encounter of rollos tomassi's the rational male.It was as if i was being initiated into an exclusive club that knew what the rest of the world was ignorant of.I did not dismiss it as mere nonsense for I could relate what I was reading with my own experiences. I think thats what makes it so intriguing. Why bluepillers cannot simply walk away from the redpill especially those who have experienced heart ache.Its the truth that we cannot walk away from. My first experiences with girls were depressing but that question always came up.WHY. The because was the redpill.

BusterVadge · 2017-01-20T21:59:50+00:00

I read the Zoe Post, and it's really no surprise looking at it through a RP lens. That guy is SUPER beta, and wasted so much of his energy on her, and even after the fact with chat logs, a web site, etc....

This guy is doomed to be cheated on over and over again.

Philletto · 2017-01-24T03:59:10+00:00

GamerGate and SJW issues got my attention first but they aren't the same things as MGTOW. Anti-Feminism might be a trigger to the self made man path, but it doesnt have to be. GamerGate was about women having political power, TRP is about women having power over men.

I think like many here, I had figured most of it out already then got it confirmed by reading this material. You don't choose to red pill, your inner conscience forces you to reject the blue pill and accept the shit you are going to receive from society. I did a personalty test on a work team buiding day and found out I cannot lie for other people or accept bad work from other people or myself. With that kind of personality, I had to break conformity, it was making me so unhappy inside. I lost all my frinds, what a relief, they were poisoning me. I'm free now.

dbjap · 2017-01-21T06:46:49+00:00

”It's like finally having words to describe what you always observed but could never articulate. Puzzle pieces you could always grasp but didn't have the right frame of reference to fit them all into a bigger picture. ”

This.

bryoneill11 · 2017-01-21T15:58:38+00:00

The problem with #GamerGate was a lot of kids that obviously learned SJW stuff in school and clearly don't know anything about relationships or real life trying to get the moral high ground. Thanks God, the majority of users knew what was the real problem since the beginning

TooYoungToBald · 2017-01-21T17:27:52+00:00

I'm mostly on the same page as you. I was 16 when GamerGate started. I considered myself to be a feminist in the regard that I believed women were underprivileged and underrepresented. And to top it all off I just moved from the Conservative Deep South to a very Liberal town up north, where all the in-person influence was rubbing off pretty well.

When I first heard about the "Five Guys" incident, my thoughts were, "Wow, it's horrible that they're slut-shaming this woman, but at the same time, fuck the video gaming media".

At the time, there wasn't much people could do about it other than complain, but as a former Anita Sarkeesian sympathizer (my stance on her was that she was wrong, but respectable) I started seeing people expose her bullshit and calling out the "western indie clique" we have in the modern gaming market.

I decided Reddit was too censored for me to stick around, so I started posting more on 8ch, where they mostly ridiculed me because it was pretty obvious what website I came from. Being in an uncensored and unfiltered environment like that for two years opened my mind up to more ideas and then I realized that feminism is a ploy to shame masculinity into obscurity so we can have a collective nation of passive personalities and no backbone.

Simply put, any organization, nation, or collective is rendered useless without the masculinity to take action and rationalize their efforts. It's why they WANT male feminists in the first place, because they know that women alone cannot accomplish such goals. They want people with JUST a high enough T count to push them through.

EmpReb · 2017-01-22T02:25:16+00:00

Dud /pol/ surfer here. Gamergate shoved me back into politics and introduced me to many truths (this place being the source of some of them). You never go back. You can't never go back and the ride NEVER ENDS.

JohnnyGameGuy · 2017-01-22T06:17:02+00:00

Thanks for the read.

I also used to identify with being a gamer, almost being proud of it. Here is my story in short. Got friend zoned hard in collage, made a scene, all that jazz (the girl who friendzoned me was a classic nerdy but hot girl who manipulates bluepill gamers). I did some introspection, and while I did not find the TRP until years later, I realized that hitting the gym equals discipline and babes.

I hit the gym hard. I get a girlfriend. I get confident, but I still identified with my mind and external shit so my ego was constantly under fire. I identified with gains and having a girl, so when she dumped me, or I got sick and had to take time off the gym, I got really depressed.

When I got back into the game, I had more of a "don't give a fuck attitude". I started to read some Game stuff online, managed to hook up with some really banging girls, but when I started to identify with "being good with girls" I would inevitably get depressed whenever I went on a dry spell. My ego did not match reality.

Later I found the red pill, and with my history it all clicked. At the time I was living in a dorm, studying in Japan and a majority of foreigners in Japan are deep into anime, and the kids at my dorm were just that, very bluepill. People who form communities around games, anime etc are very often (not always) riddled with anxieties and therefore they are quick to attack people. They are closely related to the SJW class of people. Anyway I am getting off track, but being surrounded by these kids at the time I discovered the red pill I was able to observe a lot of the female behavior and oh boy! They all match your description of Zoe Quinn, parading around blue pill orbiters like queens.

I would go through all the phases that follows discovering TRP, anger phase etc. Acceptance is where its at! Later still I discovered the power of now, and when you don't identify with an ego, your frame is impenetrable, and every human interaction is amusing. Live life! do what you like, talk to everyone, and no matter what you decide to do, do it 100 percent! be present and free. Never resist your life situation and for any newbies reading, get past the anger phase and realize your potential.

newls · 2017-01-22T11:01:11+00:00

It was about 2014 as well, my heart had been destroyed by a girlfriend dumping me "out of the blue", though the signs are obvious now with knowledge and experience from TRP and hindsight.

My first "proper" girlfriend, I genuinely loved her and the sheer heartbreak and betrayal sparked off an emotional journey that led to TRP. Like many others, the ideas written down here helped to articulate ideas that I had had since puberty.

The anger came through an unreasonable expectation on her to be honourable and loyal. I had supported her in quitting her old job and training for 6 months to apply to quite a good well-paid job. Sat through loads of interview practice with her and was genuinely excited as she progressed up the application steps.

Meanwhile I didn't have a job, I was training for my own goals (that I have now been achieving), and was acting a bit less masculine as time went on. I could see her being more and more distant, one thing that surprised me was how annoyed she'd get if I ever apologised. Back then this was confusing, now it makes perfect sense through a RP lens.

Then basically the day after she's told she's got the job, she came in one morning and told me it was over. From her female perspective, I think she just wanted a clean break, with the added bonus that in her initial training there'd be plenty of guys on the same good salary as her, as opposed to my £0/month income.

My previous perspective participated in the complete shock, because I had thought better of her. Here's a guy who's helped a girl start a new and exciting chapter, and rather than staying with him to seek out his own goals, she dumps him to swing to the next branch. The movies and love stories had been fictional.

In spite of my complete shock at the time, it was heartening to learn in TRP that this was far more common than I'd realised, and actually fit into a template of sorts. It was heart-warming to join a brotherhood, or at least a community, of men who were determined to move on from past pains and dedicate themselves to self-improvement and ultimately a masculine enjoyment of life.

For men, there is something weirdly supportive about straight-talking, no-nonsense, man-to-man advice. At first it may seem cold, aloof, and even rude, but when one thinks about the power in independence, it makes more sense.

The internet and smart phone revolution has brought about a stark imbalance of power between young men and young women. The female psychology of hypergamy and branch swinging fits very well with the sheer amount of mate choice in social media and dating apps.

As men our goal shouldn't be just to get laid. Success with women isn't the end goal. It's a side-benefit. The ultimate goal of a masculine life is to do something every day that feeds towards an ultimate purpose, and makes you feel excited.

As that top post said a month ago, relax in your sheer masculinity - that's all any girl will ever need. That will come from focusing on your enjoyment of your own life.

the_calibre_cat · 2017-01-24T04:14:16+00:00

On one side, the gamers ignored the personal stuff and focused on her of sleeping with game journalists for better reviews (this later turned out to be not true anyway).

The "for better reviews" part turned out not to be true, the "games journalism is an incestuous orgy of developers fucking (in some cases literally) the journalists that are supposed to be keeping them honest" turned out to be 100%, disconcertingly (the image of Zoe Quinn fucking Nathan Grayson), accurate.

If Stephen Totilo had a shred of journalistic integrity in his body, and wasn't just a mouthpiece for the social justice narrative to shout at the evil, evil gamers, he would've at the very least reprimanded Nathan Grayson for being so involved with a potential subject. Instead, he scolded the community for being upset about it, and insisted that how dare they be upset that their news is coming from this stupid fucking circlejerk orgy that only cool people are allowed in.

Of course, had he done that, the incestuous, nepotist, crony orgy of journalists and developers in an unremarkable, trivial sector of the economy wouldn't have escalated it to the level of national media - but he did do that. And then Donald Trump got elected - in no small part because the vast majority of the legacy media was not so much reporting on things and doing good journalism, but was rather simply reporting on things that would manipulate the court of public opinion in the manner that they so desired. I will firmly state that without the clear intent of the legacy media revealed by GamerGate, Americans would not have turned on the media so harshly, and Donald Trump might not have been made President in November.

So there you have it, folks, Zoe Quinn fucking around got Donald Trump elected President.

Game. Set. Match.

Thotwrecker · 2017-01-22T00:50:06+00:00

I'm glad gamergate red pilled many of you, but I've always been in the camp of "who gives a flying fuck."

You - not you OP but the general "you", a 20-something male on reddit - haven't pulled ass once in your life. If you get laid, it's through investing disproportionate time and resources into a female friend and converting that one out of every 20 into a delayed lay. You're value is nothing; you're not a 4 or a 5, you're not in the sexual marketplace at all. You may make decent money, you may dress nice, but you're not in the upper echelons of any vertical, be it physical / fitness, money, looks, anything. You're already trash and all your life you've known that something was off balance. You've known that the media treats you like shit, you know online culture wishes you would just shut up and go die with your problems and your lack of fulfillment out of life.

And Gamergate was the straw the broke the camels back? The fact that some magazines favored a manipulative woman's story over some beta ass white dude's side? That a shitty chick game got more coverage and biased positive coverage than indie games that are actually good? That did it?

Again, I respect anyone who has reached the point in life that they're willing to admit that society is fucked up and they need to make personal changes. It doesn't matter how you see the truth or what catalyzes it, it just matters that you start looking at reality with clear eyes.

But it's kinda sad that so many people on reddit only saw the light when the media / feminists came for their precious video games. Anita Saarkesian will make you get all riled up to spend hours waging a troll war, but looking at your skinny fat self in the mirror doesn't get you riled up to lift some damn weights?

Red Pilling yourself IMO has to come from a point of self-reflection. It's not as simple as saying "oh, look, I can see how fucked up the world is! I see now, I see how the media is biased and feminism is anti-male and western culture is built consumerism and empty values (and seeks to empower women because women are the best consumers). Understanding that is good, sure, but a 14 year old HS student reading Nietzsche understands that. That "red pill" is the same kind of red pill as feminism; it's a world view that you've built based on shit you read on the internet. It happens to be more accurate and more representative of reality, but the knowledge isn't embedded deep, it's not really your knowledge. It's just a reaction and for most redditors, the reaction translates into zero action and zero changed behavior (other than getting into arguments on TwoX on reddit).

You have to actually red pill yourself through real life experience. Go see what the truth really is, go see how women in your company, your college, clubs, etc etc actually behave. Go see what actions society rewards from them and what actions society punishes, go try to understand why an average gamer girl might capitalize the way Zoe Quinn did by meeting girls who are capitalizing in the same way on a smaller scale constantly. Go deal with their shit and learn how to either ignore them or fuck them. Go see what kind of treatment your SMV gets you. That's a red pill with real personal relevancy, it will sit with you and sting and live with you. Because it's not a metaphor, it's not a scandal happening to somebody else, it's your life and your sexual value and worth that society is trying to dumpster. That'll get you in motion, that'll get you doing something.

TheRedThrowAwayPill · 2017-01-20T07:20:50+00:00

September 2014

October 2014.

Zoe Quinn article

Same here.

someone mentioned TheRedPill during a GamerGate discussion

Same here!

Look at that, small world.

TheJedi_Lied · 2017-01-21T16:53:43+00:00

I googled, "I think my girlfriend is a slut," or something like that.
I found the post that lists the red flags.
Thought to myself, "nah, no way. Not MEE."
Yeah, you guys were right. I came back.

I felt informed, but painfully deceived. The typical anger, but it was channeled and eventually passed.

br_21 · 2017-01-22T00:07:25+00:00

I never had a RP male figure in life. To better understand women and what I'm doing right/wrong I was searching psych journals online. I also figured it'd help create a better reply to the people who always ask how I don't have a girlfriend/why I don't date. I was searching for effectively the 'wall' and TRP was a result.

I just read the basics of gamergate, but had a recent situation similar in nature, except I wasn't involve with the girl. I had some common interests with an older girl I was being friendly with, and I thought she'd be good person to learn about to help understand how to handle with similar girls. She had stories of past hardships, such as crazy ex’s, which won sympathy points with me given how she persevered to be successful in some parts of life. She seemed like a good person that got screwed over sometimes, which resonated with me. I had bought in enough that she opened up a bit to me (she loved talking about herself), but then it started becoming obvious she had crazy double-standards and what she said she hated most about guys, she was doing but always had excuses to justify. If I brought up what she was doing or other self-destructive things she did, she would change the conversation or come up with some bullshit. I had just comes across RP, so I switched from interested in her as person to focus on purely learning experience as I lost respect for her. I wasn’t cutting contact or agreeing with her thinking, so she kept trying to either to convince me or herself, but eventually the lies started unraveling and what was left was she was a bad person. Apparently being the good girl was an act and lying (complete fabricated details, etc) to people was okay because it helps her correct perceived wrongs. Once that became clear, she dropped the act and started insulting me to make herself feel better I assume. I had learnt what I wanted, so I did what I felt was remaining cool and just said ‘if that’s how you feel’ and ended contact. She doubled down as I didn’t give her the reaction she wanted. She uses this ‘good girl’ and past to win sympathy and be successful professionally (sort of ‘woe is me’ damsel manipulation), but my guess she’ll never have to change as every time it blows up the cycle will repeat.

TL:DR. A support story to gamergate message. Female trickle truths, lie at all cost to succeed, and if needed scorch the earth and use what you can to your advantage. I’ve read in TRP to pay attention if a girl ended past relationships on good terms. This. Men are less emotional, and while some dudes are bonkers, if her past guys have made the effort to do something that can be seen as vengeful, there is likely a reason.

RedPillWintergreen · 2017-01-22T22:27:17+00:00

East of Eden by John Steinbeck should be required reading for all men. There is this sociopathic female character in it that enjoys manipulating and destroying (what we nowadays would call) blue pill men. The reader gets to study her actions step by step. Maybe then, shit like this wouldn't happen.

JJCXV · 2017-01-23T00:31:42+00:00

I first heard about gamergate when I started seeing articles about how most gamers are mysoginists and shit like that. I knew it was bullshit from the very beginning. Being accused of rape brought me here, no police were involved or anything but it fucking blew my mind how someone could lie about that.

Papa_Bear_ · 2017-01-26T07:56:54+00:00

That whole GG thing was a mess. She had clearly put herself in that situation by manipulating the men in her life but all I ever read was how amazing she is, she's just owning her sexuality (which by the way can anyone please explain what that means to me? Doesn't make sense how women don't want to be viewed as objects of desire but yet aren't afraid to flaunt their sexuality under the pretense that she's doing it on HER terms) how she's an innovator etc. women are never at fault, whatever. Although it's clear as day that she brought a lot of this on to herself and it amazes me just how far women AND men are willing to go to bat for any woman who's under scrutiny.

I think the red pill really has shown me just how crazy this world can be. Not even just from women but guys out here are ruining it for everyone. The GG thing reminded of this chick from school. Into anime and video games, she wasn't the hottest chick ever but she was cute and that threw all the nerds into a frenzy. She was constantly surrounded by 5-7 dudes at any given time who were holding her bags, buying her food and constantly validating her ENTIRE existence. The sad part was she wasn't dating any of them, she was dating this dude who didn't like any of that shit and wasn't built but was ripped as fuck. It reminds of this because she was never at fault for being an asshole to any of the guys surrounding her. I called her out on it once and all the dudes (even the one she had just been a dick to!) all talked loudly at me at once telling me she's had a rough day and other bullshit. Shocking.

I think what ultimately drew me to the red pill was a culmination of things. My personal situations with women, treating them like queens and putting them on a pedestal but never seeing results and when something in me made me stop giving as much of fuck seeing how different they treat me now. Obviously I'm not slaying pussy or getting women all the time but to see how much more receptive they are to it baffles me, Seeing bullshit all around me but never piecing it all together. Seeing how things I've felt for a while wasn't me just going crazy and that there's a whole community of men who have similar train of thoughts. It's a good thing.

CyberninjaZen · 2017-01-19T03:18:55+00:00

Gamergate is one of the dumbest things that happened in the game world.

yummyluckycharms · 2017-01-20T07:24:20+00:00

Gamergate.....mixed feelings about this group.

On the one hand, they are a segment of the population that is getting trashed by the feminist/SJW imperative due to them not backing down to a bully and getting upset that the journalists that were supposed to represent their viewpoints - weren't.

On the other hand, these guys are extremely blue pill and naive. Their general viewpoint is that through dialogue they can get the bad guys to back off - despite said bad guys controlling the media and government. Nor do they believe in consumer boycotts, which basically means that companies can continue to trash talk them and will suffer no repercussions.

So, they are kinda like your mentally retarded little brother that keeps getting stuffed into a locker - he can't help it, but he's too clueless to do anything about it.

That said - I am rooting for them and I want them to succeed, as their end goals are positive

Kafkaevsky · 2017-01-20T13:09:51+00:00

Same here. It started with the gamergate stuff, so naturally I frequented KotakuInAction and TumblrInAction. I saw this absurdity spread to Firefox, github and many other online communities. Then someone mentioned TRP in KIA. The rest as they say is history. I swallowed the red pill.

Stythe · 2017-01-21T17:56:06+00:00

Internet culture is a joke. You can't expect accountability online, where it's so easy to act a certain way and have everyone interpret your actions, based on words without emotion and nuance behind them. And of course, words are so much of what bother people. If you can't handle words, you shouldn't be online. It should be taught the same way you'd teach grammar to a child.

If it's actual hacking, doxing or slander that can ruin someone's reputation, that's a problem, but mean words and angry dissagreements are not.

belgarionria · 2017-01-22T01:02:02+00:00

I've read on gamergate many, many times, and I still don't understand what it is. Is it a concept, a person, a company, a group of people, an event? I read your post OP, and I have no idea wtf you're talking about.

cashmoney_x · 2017-01-23T14:28:20+00:00

The whole gamergate thing was the last straw for me. I now know that most people are helpless when it comes to seeing through the female mirage.

Easythaiger · 2017-01-30T17:50:15+00:00

Wow, just stumbled on this sub. Get to Asia boys. Escape the reality. I'm sure it's been said before, but life started at 30 for me in the Orient. Never looked back. Feel for ya guys.

SgtBrutalisk · 2017-02-03T05:58:51+00:00

I found TRP through Reddit haters. They really are our biggest allies.

What you've experienced is very rare. The society depends on men not knowing how women think.

These Beta cucks are groomed from childhood to ignore the flaws of gorgeous angels, marry them and feed the State through their labor.

The fruits of your labor that come as a result of striving to make your child's life the best it can be are seized and used to fund government's pipe dreams.

From welfare that breeds a proletariat class to aggressive warlike behavior that produces untold death and misery, government is the single deadliest entity in the world.

It's a cold, calculating and conniving system that is parasitic in nature. The very idea of progressive income tax is designed to keep you always in place.

No matter how much you try, you can't beat the system. However, you can outsmart it.

You are insignificant. You don't matter to the government; that also means it can't target you individually or the Man behind the curtain will expose himself.

We're not trying to make a political movement. We have no leader, no program, no structure. This means you should use TRP as you see fit.

But, that also makes us impervious to government action. What is it going to do to make us go back to our Beta programming?

Every action by Betas and White Knights to bring us back to the fold can only expose the workings of the programming. And thus, they are left only with shaming.

Once you cannot be shamed any longer, you are a free man. You can live as you choose and enjoy life to the fullest.

ThePest179 · 2017-01-30T00:41:37+00:00

I remember how naïve I was when I was a bluepill. My awakening happened indirectly as a result of the Trump campaign. Very different circumstances, but the same result.

ChristianRedpill · 2017-01-28T14:15:07+00:00

Dude, that was seriously cringe worthy. It was very hard to read because you were such a pathetic cuck. I hope you have permanently recovered from being a pathetic bitch boy. Wow!

DigitallyDisrupt · 2017-01-19T18:02:05+00:00

The Matrix metaphor is slightly cheesy, but there really is no word for it other than "unplugging"

Ok smart guy, come up with another metaphor that gets the point across succinctly, with fewer words.

Title	GamerGate: A personal reflection on what brought me to TRP
Author	TruthAndVirtue
Upvotes	257
Comments	230
Date	January 18, 2017 10:23 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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