Had 8 year long redpill relationship with highschool sweetheart. Maintained frame like a boss until I didn't. Would like to know your thoughts.

d3g4d0 · 2023-10-20T16:15:12+00:00

Hey young dumbass; you should do everything you can to make it work. Your situation is so mother fuckin rare these days I don't care what any of these other guys say. The fact that you've been with each other for so long and took each other's virginity is a big deal. You think it's sunshine and rainbows out there but it's not. It's whores and social media sluts. Aren't you supposed to be smart, Asian man? You're being stupid as fuck right now. And that's God's honest truth.

tryntofeelgood · 2023-10-20T11:01:02+00:00

Some of these replies are fucked lmao go look through some MRP stuff for better advice

rin_tintin_7 · 2023-10-20T22:25:40+00:00

TLDR: You have onitis. Dread game + Focus on re establishing rock solid frame. if she comes back, she comes back, if not, NEXT.

I always think it’s funny the mental gymnastics we do to try and justify onitis, it’s basically the male version of hamstring. “No you don’t understand, this one actually is different unique and irreplaceable” (aka I love her).

The truth is that the more you regard her as some kind of exception to AWALT, the more you’ll fail shit tests and the more you won’t hold frame when it matters. “I have an abundance mentality and a rock frame but this girl is different so I act like a beta just for her”. TRANSLATION: I’m not as alpha as I tried to describe in the first paragraph.

It’s actually funny, all these onitis type posts follow the same pattern.

Paragraph one: I have this girl who’s ACTUALLY different.

Paragraph two: I’ve truly internalized TRP and have a rock frame.

Paragraph three: I actually do plenty of beta shit but don’t realize it and now my girl is (pick one or more) losing interest/ disrespectful/ cheating/ leaving me.

Paragraph four: how can I get her back while I break every rule of TRP (which is appropriate in this case because she’s different)

Here is how to proceed:

Dread game + focus on maintaining rock solid frame and she may come to you. If she doesn’t, next.

Thraximundaur · 2023-10-20T14:34:32+00:00

Bruh your relationship is 8yrs that's deep stuff

If she says she wants to stay in the relationship with you just enjoy it, ficus in building yourself the way you wabt, and enjoying time together

Dont worry about this broke frame once and cried in front of her stuff we sre all human. Everyone wants a relationship like what you have, no one wabts to be stuck in this hookup culture stuff.

OuzoMini · 2023-10-20T11:59:32+00:00

So many responses here are delusional and ignore basic, logical fundamentals of how the world works. No matter how well you take care of your new phone, for example, with consistent use, deterioration is inevitable. At some point, it will lose its status as being “brand new.”

Similarly, no matter how much you try, every sort of human relationship will eventually run into roadblocks. Based on your post, you admitted that you made a string of mistakes. Don’t beat yourself up over these, and continue looking forward. So many people in the comments are jumping on your girlfriend for becoming more distant, but from the provided context, due to a change in your behavior (although obviously all your career expectations are not your fault), does her behavior not make sense?

I would say that the first thing you must do is stop the beta slump, so to speak. Of course it will be hard, but it’s necessary even if you end up breaking up with her. Secondly, you must really think about her role in your life and the future. It’s understandable that you like her, but can you see a future where she could be by your side? At 23, it is a horrible idea to intentionally alter the path you foresee for yourself to coincide with some chick. If you two are bound to different futures, then maybe splitting now is the best course of action.

At the same time, if this is not the case, you need to take some time to set boundaries for yourself in relation with her, and start taking immediate action. If you simply cannot spare more time for her due to your career, but she cannot accept that, then problems arise. It might be useful for you to also take some distance to really find out how you feel. You CAN repair the relation. It might not be 100% as it was, but would 90% be that bad (if it stayed so).

Ultimately, this is all up to you. If I may give one piece of advice: mentally prepare to break up. Hope for the best, but get ready for the worst. Since you are dealing with such a long term LTR, your next steps ought to be realistic and carefully thought over.

Good luck!

sussykeke3 · 2023-10-20T10:48:22+00:00

Story as old as mankind itself. I broke up with my 5.5 year LTR recently, for very similar reasons. Lost my fun, true, authentic self because I took life's hardships too seriously.

It's your decision if you want to break up or not, no one on this forum has enough context or information about you guys to make that decision for you, but I'd highly suggest you accept that "salvaging" a relationship will never lead to it being like it was at the start. Sometimes it's better to start anew because you're more experienced now, and a completely different person.

And if you do break up, play the field for a little while. Learn to get good at picking up women, bang a bunch of chicks and then maybe find another one to invest your time and exclusivity in. 23 is a good age to be single and get that experience so you can:

Learn what qualities are present in basically every chick out there and which ones are really hard to come by and are worth investing into with a long-term relationship.
Learn how to game women so when the right one comes along, you won't have a problem to actually get her and lead the relationship in the right way, so it doesn't spin out of your control.

Good luck!

allahyardimciol · 2023-10-20T12:21:18+00:00

I will give you the best advice that anyone can give you cause i was in the same situation. Was together with my highschool sweetheart since we were kids at 15. I showed weakness, jealousy and other stuff and slowly the relationship broke apart. In general, caring too much is always the biggest issue. In my second relationship i didnt care a lot and it showed. My second girlfriend never was in love as much as she was with me, she never was this obssesed with someone just because i was always able to walk away. Why was it this case? Because after all the emotional damage i took from losing my big first love, nothign seemed to be as bad.

In a way, its sad cause i never felt like in my first relationship ever again. Women are just partly entertainment for me now because i dont trust them anyways. Maybe subconciously i search for the first love again but i know it will never happen again, despite having dated a lot of women afterwards, many of them more beautiful, more smart, more interesting.

My advice is, try to make this thing work and get your emotions under control, but at the same time, know that if you dont succeed in that you will come up from this experience as a whole new men and nothing related to women will ever hurt you again like this relationship did. And also, dont overcompensate by trying to be alpha or a person you are not deep down. She will sense that u care even if you act liek u dont care.

RedditSlayer2020 · 2023-10-20T10:25:08+00:00

oh wow that sounds terrible. If you have to pretend something that you are not to keep a girl around sounds really bad. If a relationships only foundation for her is her tingles she is crazy superficial and shallow.

Bro find your true and natural essence which will in fact attract the right girl eventually.

Life is to short to not be in the state of tranquility and peace.

latrent · 2023-10-20T12:41:21+00:00

“Old” Alpha ways? You mean being a teenager? Come on dude, you’re just growing up as a human.

Practical_Bee5412 · 2023-10-20T16:26:42+00:00

Listen she will do what she’s going to do, it’s very common in these sort of relationships that at some point the girl things “hang on I’ve only fucked on guy, maybe I’m missing out, need more experience blah blah blah”, which all of insta and tiktok and that bs could be telling her. Sadly, you can’t really do anything about those feelings, as I know from personal experience. You’re young, get your head down now and make yourself a better man, and she won’t be an issue. But I’m sorry, it hurts.

grass_cutter · 2023-10-20T13:00:10+00:00

You don’t know what frame is. It’s more of a construct of a social situation.

It’s not about pretending to be machismo or acting like some unflappable stoic cartoon character representation of a man.

Almost none of the younger generation does. Start reading some old school stuff.

jxjkskkk · 2023-10-20T17:30:34+00:00

Don’t listen to most of these garbage replies. Stick to RP principles and make this work, your situation is exceedingly rare. Check out MRP, your relationship is far from being unsalvageable.

RebelRebel62 · 2023-10-20T17:49:05+00:00

Take it from someone who’s been married for 20 years, lost and reestablished frame more times than I care to admit. She sounds like a good woman. This isn’t a lost cause and would be a waste to throw away. Work on your confidence, build yourself back up, concentrate on leading your life and she’ll follow. And if she doesn’t someone else will

avtarius · 2023-10-20T22:55:49+00:00

Sunk cost fallacy's a bitch.

Also if you're being shit-tested, start the process of cutting an unnecessary accessory loose.

Are you affected by common law ?

Remember there're always fresh fish in the sea.

qunamax · 2023-10-21T12:59:07+00:00

Dude, her body craves a carousel, you should too. 8 years, aren't you bored to death? Let it go, go explore other women, school sweethearts thing is over.

18cmOfGreatness · 2023-10-22T12:19:43+00:00

It's hard for me to even comprehend how a guy could want to sleep with only one woman in his entire lifetime. It sounds absolutely crazy and wise redpillers advice the guy to keep it going, lmao.

thetonybvd · 2023-10-20T15:28:51+00:00

No dude, you should have a honest talk. Like, real communication. Why she is cold like that ? You need to know at 100% she shouldn't lie. Is this really because you cried in front of her, did she hugged you ? Reassure you ? Is she still loves you ? Have someone else in her head ? You need to know.

If you smell lies, it's really not good. Breakup will happens. From her or from you.

You're 23, have a lot of girls into you, it will be easier than the average joe here

icanseeyourpantsuu · 2023-10-20T21:19:20+00:00

Ol these advices are shite. 5yr 10yr 15 20, pussy is pussy. Bang her if she comes to you. I did not read your post, but if she offers some benefit to you other than pussy, then let her orbit your space just like any other planet.

SteveSan82 · 2023-10-21T04:38:37+00:00

Why would you cry in front of her? You blew it.

DTreatz · 2023-10-22T05:01:14+00:00

Unicorns arent real mate, best you learn that the easy way.

videogames_ · 2023-10-20T12:41:13+00:00

A lot of women change the moment they see emotional weakness in you. It’s ingrained in human nature. It’s usually a lost cause but we don’t have all the exact context because your post is vague.

cat_magnet · 2023-10-20T11:05:55+00:00

You have no abundance mentality. Like Snoop said back in 94 " we don't love them hoes". I hereby diagnose you with a severe case of oneitis.

Krachan · 2023-10-20T11:23:37+00:00

just talk to her lol communication is the most important part of staying together for a long time. explain to her why you dont like her changes, why you want to break up with her and that you want her to change for the better. she wants to stay together so she will probably listen to you

and you obviously dont want to break up with her, otherwise you would have done it already

if you break up with her like 90% of comments in here are saying, you will probably regret it

girls like her are VERY rare (beautiful, loyal, have just 1 body count), thats like the holy trinity that you will NEVER find again

no relationship is perfect, this is just one of many hardships that you have to go through in an LTR

and if she doesnt change for the better, and if you still feel the same way after a few months, then break up with her

1-2 year old relationships arent worth fixing. 8 year old relationships like yours are worth fixing.

Malakyas_ · 2023-10-20T10:51:49+00:00

she will the wall at 35 and you will not, just remembering. ( swapping to younger is always a good thing )

there is one thing you can do atleast. Go Lift.

Bitter_Virus · 2023-10-20T10:56:12+00:00

She want to stay in the relationship because she is habituated and has more to lose than to gain. Not because she want you. But it doesn't matter, make a clear cut with the past and act redpill again. You deserve the extra shittest because you've been failing a lot.

Take it as opportunities to win her back, as if you've never been with her, instead of a sign that you failed.

It's just shittest and they mean the same thing they've always meant.

Don't let her walk over you, behave as you would if a new girl disobeyed. She has a strong groove built over many years and she will comfortably get back into it after some more intense shittest that you overcome. She will test you extra before going back but she want to get back so don't let her down.

valientote · 2023-10-20T13:54:06+00:00

She probably will come back being her first + 8 years is a lot, give her time and don't apologize for shit just continue your path but regardless of the outcome you screwed up, you know that and you're no omnipotent being to change the past. Yes it was beta to cry and all that but it was human it happens to all us, the best you can do is forget and continue focused on your path. Regret is very beta dude

manofimprovement · 2023-10-20T12:28:26+00:00

Be more authentic with relationships than you would for a hookup or something casual.

Aubrey_D_Graham · 2023-10-20T14:38:04+00:00

I'm not against returning to loving exes if they didn't do truly evil shit such as cheating or defamation. In your case, no. You need to fix your oneitis before you return to this woman. You can't blame women for acting up you're weak. That is their fucking nature: They test men. Even in your weakness, you must be in control of yourself. That is frame.

mrsammysam · 2023-10-20T18:26:13+00:00

You have to stop treating dating like a procedural operation where you avoid doing certain things and thinking you've done this and that wrong. I have done the same thing at it leads to you breaking your own heart.

The solution is simple and it works. The best way to keep them is to believe in yourself and show them you know you are the shit. That's it. Show them you don't need them because you don't (I know it feels like you do but TRUST me).

Also you've never experienced heartbreak. How about you end it, buckle the fuck up and suffer? It's gonna be hard but it's happened to me 3 times now and I come back happier and stronger every time. I have learned so much about myself and how to treat and be treated.

Stabvest39 · 2023-10-20T18:36:28+00:00

Do your best to not move on. Even if she's changed a little bit. The reason I say this is because you're each others first and she is one rare woman you will never find again. She has only been with you. If it's over, it's over, but do try and maintain to a reasonable degree.

MacaronFinancial · 2023-10-20T19:50:54+00:00

Many relationships have an expiry date. You started dating when you were children and you are both still very young. There's a good chance you were not mean to grow old together. I would take solace in the fact that you managed to get into a relationship at a very early age and have experience that most men your age are lacking.

kassrot · 2023-10-22T05:21:35+00:00

You don't have to break up with her.

Besides being cold, it's not like she cheated on you. Pass the fitness tests and the comfort tests.

Stop fucking up. If you're busy with work, except you need to make time for your girlfriend. Plan something special at least once a month. Date her like you did when you first started.

That being said, if she's super cold you may have to mirror her level of interest. Never chase.

Don't bring up a break or breaking up again. Do not put that idea in her head.

I don't know if it's allowed but I recommend listening to the audible book 3% man. It's quite good for long-term relationships.

RedPillDad · 2023-10-26T16:47:20+00:00

She's still wanting to be in the relationship when I suggested a breakup

You gave her a new challenge because you were the one who brought it up. If you did the opposite by remaining clingy, she would be the one discarding you. Women want what they can't easily have, not what is given to them. There's also a push-pull dynamic where they chase when you pull away and pull away when you chase.

It's a mistake to just build comfort and security. You want to trigger a broader range of emotions by alternating the push of rejection with the pull of embracing her. Alternate hot and cold - opposing emotions such as love and hate, desire and repulsion, joy and anger, and such. Women respond to drama and emotional turbulence. And by teasing and breaking patterns you show a little BAD BOY instead of stifled NICE GUY.

Guys in relationships tend to neglect many aspects of game.

Your goal is to develop your full potential, including your seductive competency. As you've already discovered, staying in a 'safe' relationship is often just an illusion of stability. Consider downgrading her to non-exclusive and see where it goes. Just making the suggestion will probably light a fire in her.

byteseed · 2023-11-05T10:22:21+00:00

I succeeded with my exams and landed a good job but my gf sort of lost interest in me and went cold because of my mistakes. I horribly broke frame in my moments of weakness, got a little jealous and stuff. Failed a hell lot of shit tests.

Congrats! Live your life, continue developing your career, and keep meeting and flirting with new women in your life (just to ensure you are not needy, no need to sleep with them if you are still in a committed relationship).

Meet with your GF, have fun, hook up, and do what you like. Repeat until everything is fixed or lost completely.

Stop overthinking, stop trying to fix things, stop salvaging, and enjoy your time together. Be willing to lose her, stop trying to spoil things, and emotionally "blackmailing". Let go. let go of your attachment, you need to let go of negative emotions. You do not have 8 years of relationship, it is a day one every day, always day one. Seduce her each day like it is a first one. Stop suggesting a breakup or any other way undermining your relationship, you are weak, reactive, and therefore undesirable. Stop ruining what you have. Treat her like any other girl you are willing to date, if she backs away, give her space to miss you.

a perfect relationship

You cannot fuck it up, once lovers are always lovers, but you can be a man who is not up to own standards, which is fixable. It is a game you play against yourself. Ultimately she wants you to succeed.

Beyond this is hooking up and cheap tinder whores and in not sure if I really want that

Can you do that? Can you do casual hookups or you are convincing yourself you don't want this because you can't? Also, do not use Tinder, cold approach instead.

Check MRP sub, it is more applicable to your situation, you have the equivalent of marriage, without being married.

tropicsGold · 2023-10-20T14:07:54+00:00

Women change MASSIVELY at around 21-22, all of their goals and plans change a lot, so that might be a factor.

Regarding frame, I don’t think TRP necessarily teaches you to bail on a weakened relationship and start over. Spinning plates is a possible response, it is certainly much easier, but in my opinion learning advanced relationship skills to fix the existing relationship is a worthier goal.

Any fool can spin plates, but pulling an existing relationship back and reestablishing frame is a major life skill that you will need if you want to build a family.

jasonrodrigue · 2023-10-20T14:47:56+00:00

Just be sure in yourself in your actions and confront about the negative behavior and attitude every single time. Never let a woman kill your self belief. No matter what. Any negativity from a woman should ever be tolerated. People don’t have bad days. They do what they think they can get away with. That is what they are comfortable with. She wouldn’t give an attitude to her boss or her father, never accept it to you. You did mess up with the crying thing. Forgive yourself and just never do it again. You can’t undo the past. You need to build a relationship with god or yourself to be there through the hard times. Never depend on a woman for support. Live as if she is human furniture. Treat her well and take care of her, but she can be replaced with more. (I know it might sound harsh to a lot of dudes, but this is the hard truth that will keep your strong). You must appreciate what good she does, but if she thinks she is too good to treat you right, tell her that you think she needs to leave or that you don’t like the way that she has been behaving recently and you are not going to tolerate it. Be ready to break it off an walk away at any moment. Who cares what her response is if it is combative or argumentative. Never let a woman put you through her nagging or verbal attacks or shots are your sense of self through actions, words, or behavior/attitude. Attach yourself to your self respect and dignity, never a woman too much . You keep your highest care for yourself because you need to take care of yourself if your women starts treating you badly like this chick is. You need the power to walk away with your head held high like a man. A woman will never make you a man and many men stop trying to be men to gain the favor of a woman. Never keep a woman around that treats you like you are anything less than awesome. You must have a vision for what your girlfriend is like towards you and if she breaks that, she is not acting like your girlfriend. Never compromise yourself.

Practice stoicism if you need to. Women come and go. You are forever.

Cheap_Sack_Of_Shitv2 · 2023-10-20T16:18:52+00:00

You say you have a solid frame, but look at how many "she"s are in your post. Look at how the second she acted different, you lost your shit. You have zero frame, and are bullshitting yourself. You need to break up with this women in your mind. Do not suggest breaking up if you don't mean it (you clearly don't). What the hell are you doing? Do what you say, and say what you mean. If you're going to bring up separating, it should be final. Don't be a wishy washy pussy. Go about your business and let your girl come to you. Get in the gym, and start to accept this relationship is likely over. Show your girl love and kindness as she comes to you, if she's earned it. You can not change her behavior; you can only change yours. Be the man she can respect and trust with her life, and for the love of god stop crying to your woman.

DearSail7885 · 2023-10-20T16:22:17+00:00

You did not have "Redpill" relationship. It just seemed that way because neither of you have any experience. She literally has no one else to compare you to.

You seem determined to march her toward the alter. But now she's 22 - the height of her sexual power. She's staring down the possibility of spending 80+ years with the same individual. My guess is that she wants to experience other men. Can't blame her for that.

She's beautiful,loyal just not as obedient as before and gives me more shit now.

She likely wants out of the relationship, but what is she supposed to say? I want to ride the CC? She's just laying the groundwork for the eventual breakup. u/happygigachad never has time for me, he isn't the same anymore, etc. Which of course is false, so the more you chase, the more you shoot yourself in the foot.

This high school romance was probably over a long time ago, you just didn't notice. Probably time to consider closing this chapter of your life and moving on.

bcatch88 · 2023-10-20T10:20:38+00:00

Forget her, do better with the next one

fullspeedornothing- · 2023-10-20T10:33:52+00:00

I think you're f*cked. Sorry. Women never forget and never forgive. Any trauma she sustained by watching the man she loved cry in front of her will forever be with her.

ClickKlakk · 2023-10-20T12:54:44+00:00

Your main problem is your perspective. You BELIEVE that what is right in front of you is a worse option than your past, when in fact you have no idea who you might meet if you give yourself the chance. You, like every other man on the planet should be excited to meet the next woman. You aren’t losing anything moving on ever.

leocorleo · 2023-10-20T17:11:54+00:00

Uff she's 22, she hit the age of "I can do whatever I want" because she hit peak attractiveness and attention. Everywhere I look girls break up around this age, I'd go so far to say you did nothing wrong, it's just the age, would have happened sooner or later.

Final_Blackberry_282 · 2023-10-20T11:57:54+00:00

Oneitis. The answer to this kinds of things is always to add more women to your list. You don't have to dump anyone ffs. Read the fucking sidebar.

q-milk · 2023-10-20T21:30:39+00:00

Dont try to reestablish frame. Just be a man. A man she can lean on. No need to question yourself. Shit passes like a storm, so dont let this tip you over.

redarcher99 · 2023-10-20T20:26:42+00:00

Why was she attracted to you in the first place? What changed?

Suspect that her attraction was in part based on the time (and attention) you spent with her.

Likely you hurt and cooled the relationship by prioritising your career over spending time with her.

If you’re not already doing it, I’d suggest building your attraction by lifting weights at the gym at least 3 times a week and eating so you’ve got a healthy body weight. This is good for your physical and mental health as well. Do this and spend a bit of time with her and the attraction should come back. Highly recommend the MRP reddit and that you read the sidebar.

rossquincy007 · 2023-10-20T12:07:00+00:00

A broken mirror once patched can never be the same. You cried like a bitch in-front of her it’s over. She will never view you the same. Her wanting to stay in the relationship is just temporary security right now while your replacement is in the works

privad · 2023-10-20T10:34:44+00:00

Shes a party girl and meant for the streets

Hard next and work on banging as many random club chicks as possible this weekend to get over her

Try and aim for s threesome or foursome with them even, that will really help wipe out your memories of "love" and kill that oneitis

privad · 2023-10-20T11:01:18+00:00

OP in here insta down voting anyone that gives a half way decent reply

BlackendLight · 2023-10-20T13:25:22+00:00

I'd recommend trying to repair since it went on for so well for so long but idk it's really up to you. I can't really help you outside of referring people like rian stone.

If you have trouble with getting back to your alpha ways, you're gonna have trouble finding a new girl.

Beneficial_Bluejay_3 · 2023-10-20T16:46:17+00:00

If you really think you can maintain this your whole life, and not show weakness a single second for the rest of your life, try it.

Skorzeny_ · 2023-10-20T22:39:23+00:00

Well, keep it for a bit longer at least. Since you're being together for years, give it a year, say. In this time you have to be PERFECT though. Not one single slip. Only then you'll give her instinctive brain enough so she can understand you just went down in a shitty phase.

AND on top of being perfect you gotta work on this never happening again. Ever. You gotta raise above the shit life throws at you. It can (and probably will) get waaaay worse than that. So control your emotions and face adversity better. And you'll do that by looking for adversity yourself. Start small, but give yourself some shit (like avoiding comfort sometimes (a cold shower can do), lifting weights, challenging yourself in running or ruck marches...). It's important to harden yourself a bit.

Women have to feel you can be counted upon in moments of shit hitting the fan. She knows she'll be a mess. You gotta be there for her. She gotta know you'll be there for her. What you did showed her you're emotionally unreliable and made her feel all of this frame of yours is just a façade. They can get pretty annoyed when we don't fill our role.

Just put yourself together and be a man. She'll notice it :)

Sendmeloveletters · 2023-10-21T12:33:57+00:00

No contact is the only way back.

GWARY54 · 2023-10-21T13:14:59+00:00

Sounds like some dread game and just find your true happy self again

Cute-Contribution · 2023-10-21T18:32:44+00:00

This is good for both of you, not perfect, but a lesson. A lesson that no one is perfect. You weren't able to take on anything, and she wasn't as good of a person as you/she thought. Hopefully you both learn your lessons, that we are all peons next to God, and He will always find our weakness if we get too caught up in ourselves.

TrashInevitable7079 · 2023-11-03T22:48:44+00:00

I don't think frame is your problem. You have too much stress and your girl reflects that. The focus on your own frame adds even more stress.

Take some time off and chill out, go on a date it something and enjoy life.

Don't worry, If your frame is ok you can get a little soft sometimes. No one is made of stone

Wargrin1986 · 2023-11-09T14:05:36+00:00

If you were each other's first then it's a completely different situation than most of the rhetoric here. Oneitis is a good frame of reference for betacucks who are hopelessly in love with a women who has a history (the majority of women do not stick with their first lover so it applies to almost all women.)

If this is the women you want to settle down with then there is a very good chance that can happen. You fucked up, that's a fact, but it's not over yet. It'll take time to mend the bridge but you need to slap the shit out of yourself, construct a frame like you used to have and most importantly, get busy doing shit and withdrawal from her. You don't need to be an asshole about it, you just need to demonstrate that you don't need her and that she's lucky if you find time for her. If you start feeling like you need someone to cry to, get a shrink. If she returns to form then you're all set AND DON'T MAKE THAT MISTAKE AGAIN. Otherwise, it's time to move on.

Title	Had 8 year long redpill relationship with highschool sweetheart. Maintained frame like a boss until I didn't. Would like to know your thoughts.
Author	happygigachad
Upvotes	125
Comments	104
Date	October 20, 2023 9:57 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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