TRP at a Ballroom Dancing Class

bornredd · 2016-07-15T21:06:08+00:00

Dancing is a lost art for many. Ballroom dancing especially so.

I was forced to learn to ballroom dance when I was a child by my parents, and I hated it until I was 16. Then I realized that I could do cool throws and spins and shit and found a great dance partner. Being able to dance opens so many doors it is unreal. The only thing that approaches it is playing a musical instrument.

It demonstrates:

Leadership
Masculinity
Sense of timing
Sexual rhythm
Openness to fun
Physical fitness
Sense of style and decorum

enfier · 2016-07-16T18:29:35+00:00

You'll soon find the real TRP truth in ballroom dancing - women only want to dance with partners that are at their level or better. Unfortunately, it can take a bit longer for the guys to improve since leading is just more complicated. At some point though when it starts becoming second nature you'll really take off. The Salsa Beginner Hell graph really nails the point. Get prepared for shit testing on the dance floor.

The natural consequence of this is that a lot of guys get discouraged and quit, leaving too many women at the top and not enough guys. If you apply TRP to it, you'll figure out the obvious strategy is simply to next the girls that shit test or back lead for a never ending stream of new girls to practice with.

Good luck, I'm having a ton of fun with it.

Tre_Walker · 2016-07-15T23:01:36+00:00

I have danced for 8 years: Latin, country, swing and ballroom. I was president of a dance club and taught in a studio. It was quite probably the best thing I ever did. I have traveled around quite a bit just to dance. One day I would like to write here my journey from dancer to PUA student to now TRP over those years. This week for example I was at a table with 6-8 women and 3 men of which I was the only good male dancer. I threw a dance party last week and invited many good female dancers and some good male but there are few good male dancers to invite (wink wink).

Almost all the women I have had come from that social circle. Dancing bit***S be thirsty! (for good dancers that is.) After teaching and being in countless dance classes and workshops I find "partner dancing" to be an excellent way for men to transition from submissive behavior to dominant because:

Men new to dance: Never want to lead/or are unable
Women new to dance: Will lead naturally immediately as they are used to being in charge with a man or at least testing every new man she dances with to see if he can handle her.

Years ago when I already knew I was much better than new women, and yet they would start leading (or lets say not following) immediately I had to learn to put women in their place on the dance floor and explain I knew more than she did and I knew what I was doing. The beauty of it is you don't have to depend on just your verbal skills to put a woman in her place on the dance floor. In fact most of it is physical. She already is expected to let you hold her physically and hold dance frame. You can simply physically "push her around"! and it is socially acceptable, in fact it is expected and appreciated! It is one of the few places in society where I had experienced a natural edge where total strangers were expected to have my arms around them and then "do what I told them to do". It is a natural and socially acceptable display of male dominance.

Yes OP: They almost all will try to lead ME before they understand they cannot and YES they want ME to lead and I am damn good at it. When you have a strong confident lead she has no real choice as we are more or less in a battle of upper body physical strength and women are weaker than men.

NightwingTRP · 2016-07-15T21:17:27+00:00

My mate used to do dancing in competitions and he had a partner who was known for constantly trying to lead the men she danced with. He was partnered with her, in his words, "because I'm the only one who can tolerate her silly attempts to lead."

Quite frankly the conversation in that class should never have happened. When I learned ballroom dancing the female of the two teachers was very clear with the women - "ladies, control yourself. It's the man's job to lead."

Also... this...

She smiled and looked into my eyes the whole time through.

Not sure what you were doing but with ballroom dancing you don't look at each other. It's known as the "anti-social" dance for this very reason. I remember my mate used to describe the dances in different ways, some being about showing off the women, tango being the most amusing for "bitch is mine and I will do whatever I like with her." If memory serves, he described ballroom as "politely ask lady to dance, then ignore her and strut around the room physically announcing how awesome you look with this chick as a minor fashion accessory draped across you."

I don't see this as a particularly good TRP example, but I do encourage dance classes as a good way to meet/grope women (yeah, it's basically socialised/socially acceptable feeling up of the opposite sex) and a reasonably fun skill to learn.

massivewang · 2016-07-16T02:57:52+00:00

I met a friend of a friend on a costume themed pub crawl in the city one night. Short, thin, decent lookig dude. We went out after the couples in our group bailed at midnight.

He mentioned he was a dance instructor, and we were meeting up with his dance friends at the club. There were two HB9s in his group with some other 7-8s and dudes. They all danced fucking amazing. Only myself and he were wearing costumes, everyone else was in their club attire.

Anyway once he started dancing with these 9s, every fucking woman in the club wanted him. They were all eye ducking him. They'd come over and stand by him looking at their phones hoping he'd talk to them. I was amazed.

There were muscular dudes over six feet tall wearing nice clothes and these skinny dude in a gay ass costume was the object of desire. I was joking around with the guys like "we're doing this all wrong! We're in the gym, saving cash, working on shit. These guy is wearing a gay ass costume, looks like he can't even do a pull up, and ever chick wants him. Dance is where it's at!"

We took an uber back to his car. On the ride he said he was all the pussy he was getting had lost its novelty. When we arrived to his car, it was a 92 Toyota shit box that was an absolute mess.

helpicantstop · 2016-07-16T01:52:33+00:00

Not hating on you OP, but it's so goddamn stupid how something so trivial works on women. Like "he wouldn't let me lead him in a dance, now I want to fuck him."

letsjustfindout · 2016-07-16T02:32:12+00:00

Dancing is KEY. If you go to a wedding or any type of formal event where proper dancing is allowed, it allows for so much game. Dancing with a woman at a wedding props you up so much in her eyes. You're:

1: Demonstrating that you chose her in public. Women get tingles when they're on a dance floor knowing that people at the other tables are watching them. As long as you're not an ugly piece of crap, it's an honor for them to have been asked to dance in public. Bonus points if you actually had to get and walk to where she was to ask her.

2: Not only that, but you're being physical. Dancing is incredible in that it can be intensely sexual, but family friendly at the same time.

3: In the end, it's really noncommittal on your part. All you did was dance. Dancing with someone is an obvious indicator of interest on both parts, but if you do it at a wedding or formal, her mind is racing with hormones and dreams and thoughts of the future. Women are more willing to move quickly at an event like this with the romantic music and the dancing. But on your end, all you did was an innocent dance. It's like getting the equivalent of 1-3 dates of comfort from her for 10 minutes or your commitment time. It's also not a complete social faux pas to simply dance with another girl later. In fact, if the second girl saw you dance with the first girl, it drives up their competitive edge.

And all this is just from standard dancing, nothing fancy, maybe a twirl here or there. The decline of classy dancing in this country really irks me. You see old movies or I hear stories from my parents about how every weekend, Queens and Brooklyn were full of these fun dances, where people behaved classy, men were men, the ladies were ladies, and you could actually find a decent partner for marriage.

Comparing that to the utter shitshow that a modern bar or club is with an orgy of grinding, sweat and drunk girls. I mean I'll do it, I'll grind with a chick for 5 minutes as she lets me finger her on the dance floor or whatever, but can you imagine finding a wife there?

Falkrik · 2016-07-16T02:24:45+00:00

I want to get into dancing but I'm terribly shy/awkward, any advice on what classes to take? I don't have much coordination or rhythm but I'm practice a bit on my own.

TRPBackpacker · 2016-07-16T07:50:03+00:00

A friend of mine who is in the BDSM society as a dom likes to exchange notes with me about being Dominant. He finds that being a man who leads in ballroom is exactly like being a Dominant leading a sub. You lead, but you are also constantly watching her reaction to see her limit.

Leading in dancing, isn't just you telling woman where to go. Using your strength to muscle them around. You need to be aware of where their body is at any moment. Which foot they are on, where their weight is, how much space you'll need to give her so she can perform the next flashy move without being crowded out. Whether or not other couples are on a collision course with you and did you forget to dance. Finally, breathe. If you can add in talking to that, you are a god. So shut up and dance, just like TRP.

Because of TRP, I've recently begin to understand some weird reaction I get from some really bad female dancers. These are ladies who'd only dance with their partners and no one else. A very normal reaction from these ladies is that they think you are a spoilt child leading everything wrong in a wild way. When in fact, they are the one who are only accustomed to their partner's lead. I also think that they have problems accepting dominance from men who are not their dedicated partner. Women like these are dead weight as a follow in dancing. But if you think about them as a sex partner in real life, they are like a virgin who've only had sex with one man.

idgaf- · 2016-07-16T06:28:39+00:00

Surprised she took the lead at all. What's become of ballroom classes?

Just wait 'til you hit kizomba or zouk. You're leading her with your full body, not just the arms and frame.

gjs628 · 2016-07-16T05:16:06+00:00

Excellent example of not letting them get their own way all the time, if you let her lead she sure as hell wouldn't have respected you for it.

... So wait, she actually said you "crushed her soul"? Was that the whole discussion about what happened? Not, "selfish prick tried to lead the whole time but I sure showed him!" Just that with the whole feminist "girls should also lead" undertone in the class, their narratives aren't normally "He destroyed me and I was putty in his hands" kind of thing, even if that's actually what happens, the hamster more often than not convinces them it only happened that way because she wanted it to, and you only lead "because she allowed you to".

summersss · 2016-07-16T18:27:55+00:00

glad it worked out for you, but I already kinda dislike this woman. somehow you leading in dancing means you may think women can't lead in a dance....A dance....ballroom dancing. c'mon.

PalindromicBirthday · 2016-07-25T13:27:17+00:00

She was saying you crushed her sole.

Not as good at leading as you thought, eh?

monsieurhire2 · 2016-07-15T23:12:29+00:00

Women can lead. But they usually want to lead women that are smaller and lighter than them. Also, if a woman commits to following, she shouldn't be trying to lead in the middle of the dance. Partner dancing is about committing to a role and sticking with it. Some follows confuse the possibility of a lead giving space for embellishment and expression of individuality as a license to steal the lead or counter-lead. Generally advanced follows can influence the lead through subtle body motions.

The reality is, leading is hard work, and most people, men included give up or stay mediocre. Lots of women don't want to be bothered learning to lead because it seems stressful and difficult compared to following.

JackGetsIt · 2016-07-16T00:50:30+00:00

I like to go out dancing and I find lots of women he haw when I ask them to dance, then refuse to let me lead, and then when I continue to forge ahead and they fall into my rhythm they open up and start having a great time. Not hard at that point to get a number or a take home.

TheRedStoic · 2016-07-16T11:02:15+00:00

I very much enjoy dance.

The very language used flows in step with sexual power talk, it's great art to establish dynamic quickly and efficiently, while having a great time enjoying the female body.

Think about it, in dance its all about physical synergy, it's a perpetual excuse yet delightfully transparent.

However, don't do ballroom. You're better off with Mumba or salsa

telecowboy · 2016-07-16T14:24:09+00:00

Any of you know anywhere where I could find some community dancing lessons? Style isn't that important to me but I'm leaning towards ballroom or salsa preferably. I live in a small college town (college student) and am not sure where to go looking for them.

Tre_Walker · 2016-07-17T02:53:02+00:00

Sooo many things I have learned from dancing but I just thought of another. Just hanging out with certain women can increase SMV.

Women out of your league, age range etc will dance just to dance.

I used to go out all the time with my dance teacher who is a HB9 hot little latin spinner. I turned out to be the best student she had had and we have been friends for years. She is married now but her husband doesn't dance much, we still go out and dance because we are good together.

The point is I discovered early on that simply being with her and dancing increased my SMV in the eyes of many women. (people have assumed we were lovers). I decided early on not to hit on her for this very reason. (not shitting where I eat) I was also BP and thought she was too good for me. She owned the only dance studio in town and was influential in the dance community.

I have used her (and others) countless times between relationships to show my SMV. So grasshopper....choose wisely and find a hot woman who likes to dance with you and do not sleep with her, use her to sleep with others.

alvlear · 2016-07-17T05:47:51+00:00

This is a good TRP example.

The bitch started off abrasive, shit tests galore, thinking she was dealing with a beta. OP established his masculine polarity through the holding of frame, which evoked her heretofore hidden femininity. She became like putty in his hands.

DontBeFredo · 2016-07-15T21:02:24+00:00

Lol are you kidding me with this post? This woman is paying money to take the class, and learn how to properly ballroom dance, which I'm assuming entails both leading and following. You weren't being an alpha, you were being an adult bully and a prick. Obviously she wasn't going to lead when you asked her...you already said no to her before twice. You think because you "crushed her soul" that makes you alpha? Let's apply this to a work scenario. A female coworker and I have to present in front of a client. Both of us represent the company. During all the prep work I refuse to let her present or lead, then ask her if she wants to lead the presentation when it's go time. Of course she's going to decline. Lmfao, I hope this is a troll post. Otherwise, you're about as far away from alpha as it gets.

Title	TRP at a Ballroom Dancing Class
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