Keto / Diet question...

ibelieveican1982 · 2019-10-25T22:17:56+00:00

You need salt. Normal salt and potassium chloride aka NO SALT. Mix these together and drink it.

Also google snake diet - it might help you.

I also think you are trying to do too much at once. Take it easy. You cannot undo years of faggotry in few weeks.

arm_candy · 2019-10-26T00:12:52+00:00

My body responds extremely quickly to weight exercises and any serious lifting will make me look like some kind of wanna-be Arnold Schwarzenegger which is not the look I'm going for.

Your body absolutely does not respond “extremely quickly” to lifting. People spend years and thousands of dollars on pharmaceuticals and still can’t manage to look like Arnold. You’re lazy and looking for excuses. You asshole.

And your LTR is lying to you. She’d be soaked for Chris Hemsworth if he showed up while you were on your pathetic 3km run.

Bigboyleggos · 2019-10-25T22:56:46+00:00

When I was a fat fuck I started fasting daily, i was dizzy from 16th hr till I ate again every time. "Snake juice" made a slight difference.

At one point I tried a 48 hr fast, I was hallucinating at the 30 hr mark but made it. The second 48 was far better and the third was easy. Since then I no longer get the dizziness with any length of fasting. I do however feel very cold, get the goosebumps and shiver ocasionally from the 20hr mark till i break my fast every time. The 48s quickly took care of my extreme fluctuations in energy and killed that constant grog i lived with before.

I have done 48s twice a week since, ocasionally doing one 72hr instead of two 48s in a week.

Weight loss has been ~3lbs/week

Edit: I mix the dry ingredients for snake juice in a Tupperware container at the proper ratio and add 2 tablespoons to my 16 oz water glass when refilling. If you do somthing physical & need to chug some water, make it straight water. If you get the shits/wet farts chill on the snake juice and have a glass of straight water. If I feel dizzy or dehydrated I keep hitting the snake juice.

lololasaurus · 2019-10-28T06:02:04+00:00

My body responds extremely quickly to weight exercises and any serious lifting will make me look like some kind of wanna-be Arnold Schwarzenegger which is not the look I'm going for.

This is definitely the best part of this thread. 😂

I used to know a fat woman who broke 400lb and joined a gym, completely ignorant about how exercise works. This woman meet with the gym employee doing the tour and was asked about her goals. She said she wanted to "tone up a bit" and maybe "lose a few pounds".

The gym employee suggested that she might do best if she picked up a barbell and started lifting, and clearly in fear of the free weights area, she quickly replied that she doesn't want to end up like one of those bodybuilding women where you can see their muscles and they have no fat.

Of course everyone in earshot almost snorted out loud - one person did, in fact.

Because only the incredibly ignorant or stupid think they might accidentally look like Arnold if they pick up a barbell and lift heavy things. Such a physique does not happen accidentally. The self discipline necessary is not the sort of discipline that causes you to randomly gain a kg every month or whatever.

I will leave with a quote from Jack Donovan's excellent book, The way of men;

Deficient masculinity is trying and failing. Failure is part of trying, and while men tease and goad each other, no man who has become masterful at anything has achieved that mastery without a certain amount of failure along the way.

Male groups are hierarchical, so while greater dominance is desirable, a certain amount of submission is essential to any co-operative group of men. Unless some men give way to others, you’ll end up with too many chiefs and not enough Indians. Honor as a virtue means caring about what other men think of you, trying to earn their esteem, and asserting yourself as best you can to achieve the highest relative position within the group.

Flamboyant dishonor is not a failure of strength or courage. Men who are flamboyantly dishonorable are flagrant in their disregard for the esteem of their male peers. What we often call effeminacy is a theatrical rejection of the masculine hierarchy and manly virtues. Masculinity is religious, and flamboyantly dishonorable men are blasphemers. Flamboyant dishonor is an insult to the core values of the male group.

Flamboyant dishonor is an openly expressed lack of concern for one’s reputation for strength, courage and mastery within the context of an honor group comprised primarily of other men.

In 1994, Michael Kimmel wrote an essay which provocatively asserted that “homophobia is a central organizing principle of our cultural definition of manhood.” He went on to clarify that this homophobia had little or nothing to do with homosexual acts or an actual fear of homosexuals. He wrote, “Homophobia is the fear that other men will unmask us, emasculate us, reveal to the world that we do not measure up, that we are not real men. We are afraid to let other men see that fear.”[31]

Why call it homophobia?

The kind of masculine status anxiety Kimmel wrote about has much to do with the way men fumble to translate the honor of the small, bonded male gang into a complex modern society full of mixed messages and overlapping male groups. This fear is a fear of the unknown. In an established, tightly bonded male group, men know about where they stand in the hierarchy. There’s nowhere to hide, so there is less fear of being revealed as a fraud, and like some kind of primal sports ranking system, men are constantly tested against one another and against external forces.

I’ve observed this in the few brief introductions I’ve had to Brazilian jiu-jitsu, in gyms where everyone rolls with everyone. Men find out quickly who is good, and who isn’t. There is no hiding or pretending and it doesn’t matter whether or not your Internet profile picture looks tough or if you put on a good show—because here is this guy who is choking you out. You are revealed as what you are, and all that remains is to improve. The only way you can increase your status within the group is to try harder and get better.

Flamboyant dishonor is a little bit like walking into that room full of men who are trying to get better at jiu-jitsu and insisting that they stop what they are doing and pay attention to your fantastic new tap-dancing routine. The flamboyantly dishonorable man seeks attention for something the male group doesn’t value, or which isn’t appropriate at a given time.

At the primal level, flamboyant dishonor presents tactical problems for the group. By outwardly and theatrically rejecting the core masculine values, particularly strength and courage, the flamboyantly dishonorable male advertises weakness and a propensity for submission to outside watchers. Any honest student of human (and in many cases, primate) body language will be forced to recognize that the postures, gestures and intonations of males generally regarded as effeminate are in fact postures, gestures and intonations that communicate submissiveness. Humans are complicated, and when push comes to shove, stereotypically effeminate males are not always as submissive as their body language would seem to indicate. However, submissiveness is what they advertise.

This submissiveness correlates with male homosexuality, and the problems men have with male homosexuality—aside from concerns about unsolicited advances—are mostly related to the perception of an over-willingness to submit to other men. There are extremely submissive or flamboyantly dishonorable effeminate heterosexual men. Kimmel, for instance, is heterosexual but flamboyantly dishonorable. His wrists are limp, his gestures are airy, his demeanor is precious, and he has devoted his entire career to the open rejection of the manly virtues and a persistent devaluing of male honor codes. I do not need to insult him. None of these qualities are negative according to his own views, and I am certain he is proud of his life’s work. He is a perfect example of a heterosexual male who flagrantly rejects the gang virtues of strength, courage, mastery, and honor.

You do you, man. You certainly aren't required to lift or want to do anything more than be able to run away.

BobbyPeru · 2019-10-25T22:40:12+00:00

Most will disagree with me, but I think keto is just the latest fad BS diet. Sure, you may lose a bunch of weight, but every single one of my friends have gained it all back within 2 years. Before somebody starts spouting out about how keto works great for you, has it been 2 years? I’m not a doctor, but I have experience

I don’t know what the fuck happened to eat a balanced diet. Eat lots of protein, get some good carbs that include fiber since fiber gives you a full feeling and also fuels your workouts ... eat a good amount of healthy fats, which also give you a full feeling... veggies for vitamins, and reduce your overalll caloric intake so you are losing a poind or 2 a week.

For me, intermittent fasting is the best way to cut. I recently bulked up 20 lbs and then took off 10 of it in 5 weeks. No keto. No fad diets. Just straight balanced diet with lots of protein. I kept all the muscle. It was almost too easy

You have to do something that is sustainable long term, or you will just end up putting it back on

JCX_Pulse · 2019-10-25T22:55:05+00:00

The best diet is the one you can sustain. Skip fad diets.

Techn1ckS · 2019-10-26T00:44:41+00:00

Keto works. It's not a fad. Dropped 50+ lbs (from 220 to 168 now) with keto from July 6th. Been lifting from start of August. I have very few setbacks. You simply aren't eating enough as far as I can tell, I was like that in the begining. Don't starve yourself. Also get off the tomatoes those have too many carbs. Good luck. Tech out.

RandomiseUsr0 · 2019-10-26T00:58:25+00:00

I’m doing a keto diet on a cut right now, but I’ll be straight with you, keto and lifting are pretty much at odds with each other, I use a modified keto where carbs are required eveyr other day on lifting days and then strict max 30g carbs on no gym days, I lost 2 stones and have subsequently gained 1 stone, but my belt is getting loose... Lift, heavy and routinely, you’ll be needing calories to keep you alive

Disclosure because I don’t OMS

Squat: 107.5 kg

Bench: 47.5kg

Row:70kg

Deadlift: 110kg

OHP:35kg

My current body weight: 97.8kg

that2didpass · 2019-10-26T01:06:23+00:00

My two cents: dropped 40 lbs on keto. Was able to switch to lazy keto/low carb to maintain for 2 years now. I feel better when I’m in ketosis. Sugar makes me crash, feel sleepy and lazy.

Your dizziness is most likely dehydration and salt/electrolyte deficiency. Read up on r/keto about overcoming that. But basically take a multivitamin. Drink more water than you’re used to, add salt and/or lite salt to your food.

mrpintraining · 2019-10-26T11:54:22+00:00

First the dizziness is and electrolyte imbalance. You can fix that with no salt and salt and water or just look for keto electrolytes.

Second keto isn’t some magic pill that makes crippled babies walk again or makes your dick longer. It is a good way for many people to eat at a deficit (sometimes extreme deficit) and not want to kill somebody. You eat less calories but feel more full.

Third you absolutely can work our hard on keto and a deficit especially if you are a fat fuck BUT you’d be better off easing into it if you aren’t really doing much fitness. You can even ease into keto itself. At one point I was at 1000cal a day only 20 grams of carbs and was working out and conditioning 6 days a week. Strength went up right until the very end. Then I went off keto and got even leaner.

You can read my own experiences here but basically I lost close to 60lbs in 5ish months and keto was part of that but not all of that. Oh and it did make my dick longer because I lost all the fat around it. Babies are still crippled though.

ZTRP · 2019-10-26T15:23:51+00:00

Drink some amino acids they will help hydrate you and recover as well..

You cannot eat bananas on keto unless you are doing something very specific ( targeted or cyclic keto with a workout routine)

FlyingSexistPig · 2019-10-26T15:54:34+00:00

I've lost 3 kilos so far (great) but as the diet progressed I got more and more dizzy, to the point where I can't focus on anything

Consume more salt. put it on everything. put it in your water if you need to. You're just low on electrolytes

SeeTheFence · 2019-10-26T17:20:16+00:00

Yes- wherever you read you can eat different types of sugar and stay in ketosis, it’s wrong. When your body is depleted of sugar enough, it produces ketones, putting you in a state of ketosis. In this state your body is now using fat for energy instead of glucose, and this is where the rapid weight loss starts. Your brain still needs glucose to use for energy, so your body synthesizes glucose out of fat in this state. It’s quite amazing. If you eat even a small amount of sugar, you can easily knock yourself out of ketosis. Some people, the number is as small as 5-10 grams of carbohydrates a day. Now- about those grams... what you MAY have heard about eating certain types of fruits being ok is that things like raspberries and avocado come with ‘prepackaged’ fiber. It’s in the fruit or food already. The fruit may show 20g carb on the label, but if it’s got 12g fiber in the sum, then the NET carbs (the ones causing an impact on your blood sugar levels) comes down to 8g. Those carbs are the ones that count towards your glucose levels. If you want to try ketosis- Start by eating less than 40g net carbs a day. Drink lots of water. Eat meats and green veggies. When I’m all I’m on my keto I’m eating nothing but grass fed steak (look up CLAs) and ground meat, eggs, salmon and broccoli. Stay away from seed oils. Don’t do dairy, at least at first. Give it four days. You will go through what’s called ‘keto flu’. Sucks balls. After that you will feel out of this world. Everything becomes easier when you’re less inflamed, even thinking. If you decide keto isn’t for you, try the paleo diet. It’s the diet evolution designed for us. Once you’re at TARGET weight, cheat from time to time. Just remember, your body is a chemistry lab. A chemistry lab that takes days and weeks to steer in a particular direction. Once you start cheating or eating filth, recognize what you’re doing, and don’t make a habit of it. It will steer your chem lab in the wrong direction. Edit-Check our Vinnie Tortorich and Dr Ted Naiman n Twitter. Both have completely different ideas on keto/paleo that work in equal measure in my opinion. One has you eating 80-85% fat and 10-15% protein (he feels too much protein will lead to gluconeogenesis) and the other is steadfast about a 1:1 or better protein to energy ratio. In his method you eat at least one gram of protein to a combined fat/carb gram. Better if that ratio is higher obviously. I prefer this approach, because it’s just more fun.

Rifleshoot · 2019-10-28T16:02:35+00:00

Your strict keto does not appear to have much fat in the diet. You need to have a true source of fuel in your diet. Fat or carbs: pick one. Strict keto is simply keeping your carbs under 20g per day and keeping fat as your primary source of nutrition. If you are just starting keto, you need salt. I personally don’t use a lot of salt typically, so I had to keep some dill pickles around and eat those. Add more meat into your diet and less fruit. Bananas and tomatoes have sugar in them. If you are going to do keto, you have to actively manage your macros.

i-am-the-prize · 2019-10-28T17:43:43+00:00

get on /r/keto and look up ketoade you need salt. in a pinch, chug some beef broth/bullion.

vithus_inbau · 2019-10-30T02:56:15+00:00

"Convict Conditioning" if you want to look like a Greek God without lifting more than your own body weight.
magnesium l-threonate in the am, magnesium glycinate in the evening.
Coconut water for all the other electrolytes. It has carbs, so not too much.
Eliminate most seed oils they are shit - avocado, macadamia, coconut MCTare ok.
fried chicken skins and pork rinds with fat on plus salt for snacks.

Btw I have heart arrythmias that can go out of control which is why I follow the above advice myself. Seems to work ok on keto AND carnivore.

Enjoy!

NeoTheJuanDJ · 2019-10-25T22:43:27+00:00

Get out of your wife’s frame, regardless of your relationship, do it for yourself.

Also, if you do this, go all out .. DON’T half-ass this.

Up your electrolytes (sodium, magnesium, potassium especially) to help prevent dizziness and lack of energy/ lethargy during the transition phase.

Keep running to deplete glycogen stores faster, which will speed the process of transitioning from carbohydrate-primary fuel source to ketone-primary fuel source. You deplete, and don’t replenish (no carb) and now your body needs to find a backup fuel source (ketones). Lift weights and stfu.

Stop running once you fully transition. Lift weights and stfu.

Also, that blasphemous process that happens when you lift weights and put on muscle.. that’s called having T and a pair. Congrats. Don’t ever again let your frame get so weak that you let your wife make you think that’s a bad thing to have. But if she wants you to keep running and stay lean: well of course she does! If you lift weights you’ll activate dread, you’ll get way more IOI’s, possibly even more options - options more attractive than her, and she’ll be forced to have to improve herself just to keep you still interested. Up to you, or is it?

FereallyRed · 2019-10-26T00:01:19+00:00

You don't understand keto.

There's a sub for that.

You fucked up. Keto is designed to shut down carb breakdown for necessary energy by reducing carb intake.

This forces the body to switch to the secondary and much less efficient way of getting ATP (energy) by using ketone bodies for the fuel. The body gets the fatty acids it needs to make ketones from fat. And you're not eating any of that, either.

You've been starving yourself.

You're a runner, you should know about "the wall". It's like that.

SeeTheFence · 2019-10-26T01:02:51+00:00

Just curious how you make the banana and keto connection... a single banana would knock you out of keto if you ate it all at once. It’s pure sugar. I have a soccer physique, which both I and my LTR prefer. The reason I mention this is because I, like you, don’t care for the bloated bro look or feel for that matter that I’m sure you’re referring to. I do this by eating a bastardized version of paleo. When I feel like going hard in the gym I eat more carbs, though always a low glycemic index version of sugar. The other shit is like putting old dry paper on a fire. It’s pretty for a sec, then leaves you with a mess to clean up. Keto is a lifesaver for many people who suffer from epilepsy, asthma and other inflammation related syndromes. It’s an anti inflammatory lifestyle above all else. Weight loss is a side effect. If you are experiencing light headedness and think it’s related to the foods you are eating, then discontinue your consumption of those foods. But I wouldn’t blame Keto for it. You weren’t in ketosis if you were eating bananas.

Title	Keto / Diet question...
Author	escapethesolarsystem
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Date	October 25, 2019 10:13 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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