High value guy - thought I had vetted LTR well - she cheated with a fat loser.

BPasFuck · 2021-03-20T19:23:19+00:00

Your first paragraph tells me a lot about the situation. Not about you as a person, I’m not saying that you’re bragging, but you gotta understand that bitches would cheat on Superman, if he existed. Sometimes, a dude is just too good for them. You seem to be living a good life before her, live a good one after her.

themostgianthorse · 2021-03-20T18:53:00+00:00

Ah yes. Another one of these.

Bummer man. I feel for you.

In short, fatty gave her the tingles and she reacted.

This will probably be a lesson in vetting for you. She is in probably a little impulsive in other areas of her life. Does she call herself spontaneous? Credit card debt? Heart tattoo on her thigh she got on a “girls trip”?

Impulsivity is one of the worst character traits for LTR. This is why. Add this to your vetting arsenal for future.

HarryDeBruyne · 2021-03-20T21:15:20+00:00

I appreciated your story homie. Especially your delivery and your humor, considering it's shitty situation. 😂 I also like how straight up and honest you were to people in the comments, even when they were throwing shade.

In terms of what happened, I'd refer you to the Iron Rule of Tomassi #6:

Women are utterly incapable of loving a man in the way that a man expects to be loved.

Trying to figure out why it happened or why they did XYZ can lead to madness.

More often than not, from our vantage point, they appear to be irrational actors. Their hamster brain + their solipsism + thinking with feelings = they can justify their behavior on a moment to moment basis to fit whatever narrative they're telling themselves. This is a dark reality to accept - but ultimately it leads to better outcomes for everyone.

Men will be more protective of their time and resources (ex. pre-nups, private investigators to vet potential LTRs - things that many would consider "insane" make sense in light of Rule #6) and won't have any "covert contract" or unrealistic expectations from the women they're with. They'll also be able to maximize their Game by developing a communication strategy / way of being in a relationship that just cuts through all of her games and reaches her lizard brain.

You're doing the right thing by just saying "fuck it" and moving on. It's also understandable to be disappointed or even to want to grieve someone you had a connection with /invested time into. TRP isn't (necessarily) about becoming this robot who can just move on out without any emotion. We're allowed to grieve failed LTRs, that's natural.

I like the 'not confronting her move' - I'm also a big fan of just moving on silently. Fuck 'em.

Peace homie.

RedPilledMonk · 2021-03-20T18:51:45+00:00

Oofff, reading this just makes me sorry for you. She fucked him because at the end of the day she is just a stupid slut that couldn’t see what she had. The best revenge is success, keep on improving, start fucking other girls and stop second guessing yourself.

Noodlesoupe2 · 2021-03-20T21:52:37+00:00

Steven has something you don’t- maybe he’s really funny and easy going and doesn’t take himself seriously.

HazinH · 2021-03-20T18:44:29+00:00

Hey man stop questioning yourself, I will admit you just got extremely unlucky in this case. Hard next her and move on, it’s better you found out now rather than 2 years don’t the line. Take time to chill/spin plates and enjoy yourself.

TheChocolateBarsGuy · 2021-03-20T21:54:41+00:00

Please tell you didn't use full on RED PILL shit inside the relationship aka being ALPHA all the time ? Because if you did then that's where you fucked up buddy !

You see you can do be full on ALPHA mode when you are just having her in a rotation but once you have her in a relationship you need to give some beta shit from time to time.

Don't get my wrong i am not saying it's just your fault. She is a bitch for cheating but sure as hell wasn't hypergamy !

yoitsericc · 2021-03-20T19:49:18+00:00

He's probably funny and charming.

Honestly you come off as a bit rough. Maybe this guy was just a smoother talker and more fun to be around?

Or maybe he has an eight inch dick or something. Idk.

CorneliusBelfort · 2021-03-20T18:46:05+00:00

You paint a picture that probably doesnt correspond to her reality and you got fucked.

You say you vetted her but it seems something slipped through the cracks.

Assuming your story is true, she probably got bored of you and your indifference that she went to fuck someone who gave her validation etc.

Why are you dating older than you?

Why did you offer exclusivity at such an age where you have your shit together?

You should be plating and experiencing females to get experience and know what exactly female behaviour is like and you can learn the type of female that is suitable for an LTR, until you're happy to proceed with exclusivity and a family if that's what you want.

Musicgoon · 2021-03-20T19:45:30+00:00

So if this guy was jacked, tall and looked like a model would this somehow change things?

Look bro, ho's are gonna ho. She gave you a gift. You now know you aren't wasting your time anymore on a trifling ho and you also get the gift of freedom. Go out and get a few hot chicks to take her place.

grkfx · 2021-03-20T23:20:33+00:00

I think it’s a small possibility your boy is bsing you...for whatever reason.

ay-fuh-q · 2021-03-20T20:34:25+00:00

always posts snaps of him smoking weed

Never underestimate women being willing to suck a little dick ("that didn't mean anything") for some drugs.

CorneliusBelfort · 2021-03-20T19:56:20+00:00

I don't fucking know why she would do that man she just sounds retarded. We can all pretend like we completely understand women and feminine psychology but sometimes it's just fucking random hoe behaviour.

TBH I want you to ask her out for coffee and then slowly and quietly ask her why she'd do this, maybe laugh in her face with genuine amusement in your eyes. I would do this if I were you. Not typical TRP behaviour but I don't let people decide my behavior man I do what I want to and finding out this bitchs reasons would be interesting lmao.

It's hard but don't give a fuck man it's not worth it. Vet better next time and women can't be expected to behave rationally. Just take this as a warning and proceed life expecting them to behave rationally (even though they do not). That's the only way I stay sane, I do this for the stock market as well (which is very much irrational except sometimes)

Things like these make you realise how true Albert Camus was. Fucking Absurdist world

sicrm · 2021-03-20T20:06:31+00:00

no need to confront.

block on everything, learn from this, and live your life

SenorTonto · 2021-03-21T00:32:32+00:00

Bro just because you are making good money, you have your own pad, and you look good does not make you high value. There's plenty of guys with money and cool hobbies getting played by women.

Your social standing in the community, your generosity, wisdom/life experience, your overall personality, values, etc are additional factors in defining value

Maybe homeboy has a charismatic personality. Maybe she enjoys actually being around him despite the negatives you see in him. Who knows.

Play the field. I'm of the belief that no man under the age of 30 should be dating seriously. Most men in their twenties just aren't there psychologically for LTRs.

MatingAdvice · 2021-03-20T19:14:00+00:00

Last night my friend called me and said he seen her leaving this guys (Steven) house, and kissing him goodbye.

It could be anything. How are you sure that they fucked?

Also, you said that you vetted her for LTR, but what about your frame? Did you keep frame during this time or did you get complacent in the relationship thus giving her a reason to taste around?

bugaboo-delight · 2021-03-20T23:00:14+00:00

Make her hurt bro. Stack a big bag and get with an even badder chick. And dont worry about whether she’s seeing your success, she’s 100% watching from afar to see how you react.

RedEyeBlackEye1 · 2021-03-20T23:47:18+00:00

Dudes always posting their body stats and resources stats, but never face stats or face is very very average looking. Not talking specifically about YOU OP, but this is typically of MOST posters. Face is a HUGE deal to females.

Also, if Steven is a weed smokers and "your" girl is too, then there you have it. females almost always hookup with dudes they drink/smoke weed with, it's literally a known fact. Plus, Steven might have a better face than you and some decent game(swag or charisma).

BlondeHornyElf · 2021-03-21T01:58:22+00:00

she probaboly got bored of being with a perfect guy.. loser dudes put fewer expectations on a woman and all that energy you put into bettering yourself and holding the fort, they just put into basic enjoyment and improvising their lives.

he is free in the ways that you are not, and you are free in ways that he is not. and sometimes girls just want what they don't have.

volvostupidshit · 2021-03-20T23:08:47+00:00

It seems to me that you are still eating what the incels are trying to sell here that if you are just an alpha you won't get cheated and it shows in your reaction.

UnbreakableButts · 2021-03-21T04:57:52+00:00

Maybe his cock is fatter than he is.

sadhak_x0 · 2021-03-20T23:28:21+00:00

your height and career are nice, but I've swindled girls from guys like you many times and I'm just about average. if you think having a car is part of being high value then you're chasing dumb bitches exclusively. based LTR-material women don't care about your car. I've never had a car. you're the provider. I'm the lover. you will always lose. I don't even need to hit the gym. sounds rude, I know, but I';m just trying to be honest bro: I've said all this to encourage you to be more beta every now and then.

anyway she doesn't want to leave you (as you already know). she just wants someone on the side cuz you're not "the whole package," since you probably forget to act a tiny little bit beta every now and then: you will never keep an LTR if you don't act a little bit of beta every now and then. also, no LTR with women younger than 26/27. good luck. also, you're pissed, not "just shocked lol."

prollysober · 2021-03-20T23:47:30+00:00

Take it as a win, which it is. I would say sorry but really I am not. Better you find out now. My main red pill downfall? Being in LTR in my 20s.

Congrats on being jacked and making bread, that’s sweet. (Not being sarcastic)

bandraboyz · 2021-03-21T00:18:56+00:00

If you think this is disappointing. You have no idea about women nature.

Wait for for the biggest disappointment ahead. When that hoe stays loyal for him for the rest of her life. She will become a unicorn for him. Even if he beats the shit out of her. She will be with him, take your money and give him, get punched in the face every now and then, feed him, care for him, etc etc.

Forget all of this, stay single, and enjoy other aspects of life.

magaforlife11 · 2021-03-21T00:42:35+00:00

How does this happen?

You dated a slut bro.

/thread

rp_nc · 2021-03-20T21:05:01+00:00

Flabbergasted as well. Please get the answer and let us know.

My take: you haven't been giving her enough attention (you don't even see her every weekend?), she got some tingles from the fat fuck. Also even though his appearance is shit, he could give 0 fucks and have an attractive attitude, at least at that time. She'll regret it when she sees the reality of what a loser Steven is.

Please keep us posted if you ever find out why she did it (chances are slim she's aware of the reason and tell you the truth, but you never know)

yellowdopamine · 2021-03-20T21:30:34+00:00

You sound like a retarded bitch that thinks being jacked, rich and tall prevents cheating.

Also, girls are attracted to more than height, money and muscle.

kcazburg · 2021-03-20T21:35:20+00:00

These kind of posts aren't even real questions... They're just humble brag "look at me". You got other bitches in line anyway. Go get em Tiger.

Prize-Thought-4205 · 2021-03-20T22:43:40+00:00

Honestly, this happened once with me & a girl, I was dumbfounded, I wasn't angry or jealous about her cheating but just that she did it with a much shorter low life degenerate just because she was obsessed with him talking to her like she's a sex toy.

I pointed out how she told me she wasn't attracted to him at all 9 months ago when I pointed him out and she just called him a loser she'd never be interested in.

Women literally obsess over your actions, even subconsciously if they think one thing due to your frame they WILL act on it. This is why you should never open up to a girl or express your weaknesses to her, she will attack you with whatever she finds.

9 months later when I find out she told me "You're just jealous" and did a stupid evil bitch face grin and I was just like "wtf, eww no" I literally became physically disgusted, and all my attraction for her died completely. Then I was just like you know what i'm not gonna argue with this dumb broad she's a complete loser, gave her silent dread treatment & ended things permanently no contact. A few months afterwards she found a new way to contact me, kept begging me to talk to her again and kept apologizing saying she'd do whatever I want. I laughed, I had already been moved on to a more quality and just as sexy chick.

The awakening was indeed rude.

David949 · 2021-03-20T22:48:09+00:00

Bro. You got a lot of good shit going for you. Don’t LTR at 22. Save that for 32 or better 42

brianmcg321 · 2021-03-20T23:02:36+00:00

Just go NC and block her on everything.

2021-03-20T23:11:58+00:00

I think you need to go back and objectively reevaluate everything, especially your own SMV.

I don't believe that there's as big of a separation between your value and this other man's as you believe.

Grave_Heresy · 2021-03-21T00:21:27+00:00

No LTRs

No cohabitation

No marriage

ChaddestChaddington · 2021-03-21T00:50:33+00:00

How good of a friend is your friend? Get independent confirmation and if it checks out indeed ignore + move on.

Just-A-Student-UwU · 2021-03-21T01:10:19+00:00

Why not talk to her? If that's how you usually handle your issues with her, no wonder she cheated on you.

Also, All you told us in this post is what you have, your "achievements" and nothing else, nothing about how you treat her, nothing about your couple's situation, only superficial stuff and useless bragging.

Both you and the relationship just sound superficial tbh.

fourwindsgold · 2021-03-21T01:41:06+00:00

Maybe she just wanted to get stoned and ride some fat dudes face

Halflifefan123 · 2021-03-21T03:03:02+00:00

You're 22 why tf are you in an LTR?

ProFriendZoner · 2021-03-21T03:23:39+00:00

She's using your beta ass for social validation and getting her tingles elsewhere.

killerj666 · 2021-03-21T04:11:53+00:00

Seems like the fat fuck got better game than you homie

2021-03-21T05:52:18+00:00

She's 22.

That's your answer there man.

SteveSan82 · 2021-03-21T05:52:59+00:00

Your first mistake was having an LTR. Second mistake was being shocked by this. Read The Rational Male. Most women I sleep with are in LTRs. They are the easiest

scorpionkinggg · 2021-03-21T09:05:27+00:00

TRP is not a full proof MOAT against cheating, why? Because women are not logical.

The purpose of TRP is to increase your rate of getting pussy within a certain timeframe. Extend that timeframe long enough i.e LTR, then Murphy’s Law comes into play (everything that can go wrong will go wrong).

P.S chin up.

From another 6 ft + alpha whose killing it.

Alexisonfire24 · 2021-03-21T10:19:47+00:00

Your activity in a penis pump sub is telling

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day2right · 2021-03-20T18:53:51+00:00

Can you trust Steven? Did he take any pics of them both out?

Hard to believe this but it can happen.

Artistic_Guest4386 · 2021-03-20T20:40:23+00:00

This is why we need to focus on self improvement, but taming of the ego.

We are floating space dust. Just because you think/are some high quality space dust, doesnt mean some other space dust isn't gona float around and fuck other space dust for literally no logical reason.

Just keep floating and shining and enjoy the ride.

halleluiaiaia9292 · 2021-03-20T21:16:54+00:00

Hi, looks like you are very much in control and took this very well. So pat yourself on the back. Bitches be crazy and can cheat even when you do everything right.

Best of luck.

Ghost her and make her suffer wondering why. Dont give an answer and avoid her.

deshawnyaboy · 2021-03-20T21:30:07+00:00

ego kill.. yea i know bro, it happens, you cant control these chicks, it is what it is, you just gotta hold frame and keep it pushing.

Romu_HS · 2021-03-20T21:39:05+00:00

You should beat the shit out of the other guy after dumping her so she’s reminded who she should have sided with in the case your in the jungle. Dominate male sperm makes its way in 10/10

Optionsmfd · 2021-03-20T21:55:03+00:00

i think thats why fresh/fit says dont LTR till ur 30 and 50 body count

concentrate on just spinning plates.... if ur top 10% like u say... it wont b hard to fill those plates up

bring your own rubber and personally dispose of it

Askmeiwontsaynot · 2021-03-20T21:58:31+00:00

AWALT

Andrew54321 · 2021-03-20T23:22:50+00:00

Where’s the question here?

mraees93 · 2021-03-20T23:30:25+00:00

She's probably just using him for the weed

jackzhangbarrow · 2021-03-21T00:15:05+00:00

Good plan with blocking and moving on. There's no need or way to truly understand her "feelings"

crew6dawg0 · 2021-03-21T00:18:40+00:00

The modern female wants to eat her cake and have it too. The dude she cheated with could have been a handicapped ugly ass dude thats bound to a wheelchair, she would have done it either way.

brique879 · 2021-03-21T00:34:09+00:00

You just can’t rationalize behavior sometimes. There’s no reason just move on you’re really young and on a good path.

SapphireBlack · 2021-03-21T02:21:04+00:00

Similar situation with my last LTR she started acting off the week before Valentines and I dug up messages from her to her coworker the last weekend when I was away with work. It sucks but you got to just keep your head up and find a better one. I was A year younger so I stay away from dating chicks older than me,

foxytaz25 · 2021-03-21T02:29:44+00:00

Yeah let her wonder

davefp56 · 2021-03-21T02:43:41+00:00

Just a perspective:

Might be that the things you think are impressive aren't as impressive as you think.

I'm 5"8" myself and tend to be a bit heavy if I am not very careful.

I would have no problem stealing women from half the guys in this thread.

At 22 you are just a kid.

Five years from now you might (might) have a better sense of things.

alclarkey · 2021-03-21T02:51:31+00:00

Some of my most successful times I have had with women were when I haven't had a haircut in several months, and I just woke up. Sometimes there isn't just isn't a good explanation for chick behavior.

cfbovernfl · 2021-03-21T03:28:03+00:00

You sound very narcissistic. It seems like you don't know this guy very well, yet are fine with ripping on his parents. There's nothing really wrong with living with one's parents in your early 20s, too.

SamEatsChicken · 2021-03-21T03:35:36+00:00

Went through this 6 months ago with similar lifestyle to you.

It’s not you.

Raw self confidence brings out other people’s insecurities and makes them compare themselves.

How people treat you is a reflection of how they feel about themselves - she probably feels like she won’t be able to keep up with you and your ambition.. so Steven is more on her level and doesn’t make her feel small.

SublimePimp · 2021-03-21T03:44:20+00:00

I think cultural brainwashing is so heavy now that young women don’t even understand or appreciate the value of having a high value boyfriend/husband and what that portends for their future. They’re just bombarded with messages that it’s ok and fun to be a whore.

xreinierv · 2021-03-21T04:26:20+00:00

You came off a bit jerk, not the good one jerk, to me. Maybe she's too nervous around you? Yeah you got job, height, money and all that, but maybe you're just her 'beta bux?'

Stop considering yourself so valuable, so important, so 'not disposable' one.

OR do whatever you'd like to do, just an idiot commenting.

needless_pickup_line · 2021-03-21T05:06:17+00:00

Some people are just self-destructive :/

Also, it's probably a lot of pressure being with you. She can take it easier with him, if that makes sense.

SoA_MC · 2021-03-21T05:29:16+00:00

Imo you seem like you have got the body, got the car and got nice place etc and your vibe probably gives off entitlement, and i’m gonna say this because it’s what I got from your post: ....you sound insecure.

You sound like you’re expecting your natural insecurities to vanish just because you have the alpha lifestyle and possessions. Your insecurities probably showed to this girl.

SuperSpicySpice · 2021-03-21T06:40:03+00:00

Brother I feel you. I was once deemed worth less that a huge fat ass (at LEAST 300lbs going by his face fat alone) and a cheater (at least 2 times on her) and they are now engaged set to be married. It set me on the beginning of my RP awakening journey and I’m grateful to it now to the point I feel sorry for him locking down with someone with no standards or self respect for herself and while she may have seemed it back then she wasn’t all that, hb6 at best. Me I’m learning, earning, and lifting to better myself and more importantly I know my worth now. I’ve got my whole future to look forward to and their lives are about to be over.

Tl;dr All women are just fucked in the head and if not for their pussy and asses they wouldn’t have made it so far up the evolutionary ladder.

redresc · 2021-03-21T09:19:28+00:00

About me: 22 y/o, 6’2 and 200lbs jacked, played QB in high school, currently compete in MMA. Have my own pad, drive a nice car, and I co-own a successful business with my older bro. I would imagine I’m doing better than probably 90% of guys out there.

None of these things you listed are 'high value' or would make you appear alpha nor are they alpha traits, seems like she saw you as beta and swung accordingly.

Due_sale_346 · 2021-03-21T10:03:09+00:00

OP, all I’m saying is when she comes back crawling please make another post. Lmao

scissor_me_timbers00 · 2021-03-21T12:21:22+00:00

Because there’s nothing keeping women in line nowadays so they just get bored and some other dick distracts her for some reason and boom, “it just happened”.

Andgelyo · 2021-03-21T13:13:27+00:00

Personally, at 22/23 years old of age, I wouldn’t give a shit. You’re not really supposed to be in a LTR in your twenties anyway. Maybe start getting serious around late twenties to early thirties but you are far too young for that shit. Move on, next her, and just continue fucking other girls. Truth is, nobody knows what the fuck she was thinking, she could’ve just fucked him for her supply of weed for all we know. That’s life, just focus on you and do you my boy

gorytoglory · 2021-03-21T13:21:37+00:00

Lmao, some say she's retarded or the dude has something you don't. Nobody gonna question that maybe, just maybe there's something wrong with redpill logic?

TheRedApostle · 2021-03-21T16:52:35+00:00

One thing no one is talking about: the fat dude just happened to be at the right place at the right time, and she hopped on him.

Next.

MoreAlfa · 2021-03-21T17:54:17+00:00

About me: 22 y/o, 6’2 and 200lbs jacked, played QB in high school, currently compete in MMA. Have my own pad, drive a nice car, and I co-own a successful business with my older bro. I would imagine I’m doing better than probably 90% of guys out there.

The problem is that you just listed a lot of symbols of "alpha" but didn't tell us if you are actually masculine. Owning a race car doesn't really make you a race car driver.

Were you leading the relationship? Were you her rock?

And ultimately, she saw more value in the other dude. Hence the expression "she's not yours...". Your turn is over.

4everrekt · 2021-03-21T21:08:17+00:00

Maybe you care too much.

You gave a good description of you and her, but didn’t really describe your relationship. Her fucking you, bragging to friends, showing off on IG, and being submissive are likely inherent to her personality.

They’re easy things to do for a woman, what would be different is if you had her working and doing things for you to stay in your good graces. That level of effort and investment would be harder to walk away from.

kclanton80 · 2021-03-22T16:57:52+00:00

You were too nice to her. You have an ltrnto a woman who did not deserve it and she punished you for it.

The problem her first and foremost isnyounsid not vette well. A woman who would do this has all kinds of red flags that you most likely ignored.

Next.... You are way over valuing your career and your accomplishments. It's your behavior that mostly will keep a woman around. You can be Jeff bezos but if you act beta she will go look for a bad boy.

zaynylondon · 2021-03-22T17:22:40+00:00

Sucks u went through that .u do sound conceited abit bro , not everyone looks at ratio body fat before assessing who they fuck.

U want someone of substance perhaps need to show same bro.

skunkbear444 · 2021-03-22T20:16:45+00:00

He served her emotional needs better for a time period where she felt they were important and he pressed those buttons, and he most likely didn't even know what he was doing.

You have to learn this isn't a comparison of him vs. you. It is who served her emotional needs better during a certain time period.

You can work on your game to better read how to serve a girl's emotional needs and decide whether it is worth serving those needs to get what you want. Many times it isn't worth it because their is a loss time, money, or undue stress involved.

In today's society it hard to serve any hot 23 year old woman's emotional needs consistently over long periods. She has too many and they can be ever changing like a bad weather season.

RPtruth26 · 2021-03-28T05:26:13+00:00

Considering you on gainit reddit threads , imma say he probably had a bigger dick and that’s why . There could be a lot of different reasons , but that was my first idea after reading your post .

Mustbeaight · 2021-03-20T21:15:50+00:00

Lol Im sorry but i can’t empathize with you.. Im Steven, atleast i am exactly like the dude (apart from fat) you are describing while looking down on and called a waste of space.. and I cannot help to feel like for once a Steven was able to stick it to a chad.. I’m ecstatic lol.. you are an arrogant prick, which is fine but I cannot feel sorry for you

linkofinsanity19 · 2021-03-20T19:55:42+00:00

If it happens only once, you should probably just consider it an isolated incident and move on. If it happens again, then maybe consider changing how you do things going forward.

Edit for clarification: Ditch the girl and move on. Don't consider it a knock on you as a man for it happening once and seemingly so randomly. If it happens again, then that means a pattern is starting to form and you might be the common denominator.

Title	High value guy - thought I had vetted LTR well - she cheated with a fat loser.
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