I see happy couples everywhere

thewobblywelder · 2019-03-09T05:29:37+00:00

Reflection without action causes depression. Action without reflection causes burnout.

CharlesChadworth · 2019-03-09T04:21:21+00:00

What you see and what is actually going on behind closed doors are two different things.

I once was friends with a BP Beta who looked like he had a fantastic realationship with a decent girl. A few years later it turns out she was fucking everyone and everything she could get her vagina wrapped around.

Everyone has problems no matter how big or how small. Some hide them easier than others.

omega_dawg93 · 2019-03-09T05:16:39+00:00

wanna see more 'happy' couples? go to facebook. every couple on there is happy... even the ones that are cheating on their spouses with ME and some of my friends.

linkschode · 2019-03-09T12:40:14+00:00

Hey man. I really felt the need to respond to you because I was where you are a few years back.

I refused to go LTR in my 20s because I just wanted to live it up and enjoy all the plates I could.

Now I’m in my 30s and have had my fill, and since I’m older and realise meaningless plate spinning is just that, I’ve decided I want to put my energy into something bigger than myself.

I took the time to fix myself physically and mentally, and spent a long time going through plates to find a woman who, to use BP terminology, felt like she was my other half.

I found her a year and a half ago, and made the decision that this is the woman I want to build a future with and eventually a family. I decided to always treat her with respect, to never insult her or put her down, and to try my hardest not to be manipulative and to be totally honest about everything.

I’ve never been happier or more content. The plate spinning was fun, but empty. Nothing compares to the depth of emotion you feel in a LTR you’re 100% committed to. I can see a future for us that becomes clearer and more stable with each day.

Truth is, many of the men here are afraid. They’ve been hurt before, and they’re desperate to avoid that pain at all costs.

A lot of them tell themselves that it’s cowardly and weak to put your relationship above yourself, but that’s back to front. It takes courage to take a chance and do that, and if it works out, you’ll experience something that no amount of plate spinning can compare to.

If you’re feeling the desire for this in your bones, then go for it. Just be sure about what you’re want and don’t compromise.

Why am I still here? I like a lot of the RP stuff on masculinity and being a stoic strong man. I’ve taken a lot from here that’s made me a better man for my partner and eventually for my family.

I wish you all the best

kylerosa21 · 2019-03-09T04:12:34+00:00

It’s normal to feel if you recently got into TRP. I feel it sometimes and I’ve been into TRP for a year already. It’s part of y e a r s of beta conditioning. You want a relationship because we, as men, are romantics. We want a girl to experience life with, but it does take a LOT of vetting to find a good one. It’s tough to switch gears and maintain a girl as a plate for 6 months before even thinking about LTRing her, just because you usually would LTR within 3 months pre-TRP.

Sakarabru · 2019-03-09T09:37:57+00:00

I don't spin plates. Respect for those who can pull it off, but I find non-exclusivity to be way too exhausting. Handling multiple women at once drains me of time and energy I could well spend on something else, something meaningful and productive. And for what? If sex was the sole value women have to offer I wouldn't even bother- hookers prove cheaper in the long run.

mrpoopistan · 2019-03-09T05:35:41+00:00

I would think anyone alive in the age of social media would be instantly aware of the fakeness factor in how people present themselves publicly.

thrownawayisland · 2019-03-09T04:03:15+00:00

I did that and fell for a plate. Promoted her, talked about kids and marriage. One day shes saying she loves me and literally the next she blocks me and says I’ll never see her again. Not really any red flags ahead of time, just 6 months of perfect behavior then bam. So go ahead but trp will always slap you right in the face with “the reality pill”.

YungNblessed · 2019-03-09T16:55:50+00:00

Don't buy the bullshit. For 7 years I was in that "happy couple" from the outside looking in. In actuality I was a blue pill cuck dying on the inside with a woman showing off her beta provider to the world but longing for and fucking Chads on the side.

Do you homie. Don't worry about everybody else. We live in the matrix, most of what you see is fake

spartan_samurai · 2019-03-09T12:01:08+00:00

" Truth is not always what you see. "

They look happy but that's not the reality. I too fell for this 'happy couple' trap and when finally the relationship ended believe me I was so angry at myself by ignoring all the knowledge that I have learnt over the years.

relationship_padawan · 2019-03-09T05:16:00+00:00

Not at all. Yes I see couples ‘happy’ everywhere and I’m in a friend group where 80% are in some sort of LTR. But they’re not all ‘happy’. When I get down to the brass tacks, fundamentally, while they believe themselves to be happy, there are deeply flawed blue pill mistakes being made which I believe will be their undoing. How many countless times have I seen them not do what they want to do because they want to keep their SO happy or their pleasing ‘good guy’ mantra. I’m not one to step in and tell them they’re fucking up (they’ll just tell you to fuck off) so I’ll be there to pick up the pieces when shit hits the fan.

I don’t screen for LTR anymore because it’s it worth it in the end. I’ll have long term plates, but I never give out the commitment. That doesn’t mean I can’t do ‘couple-y’ things with my plates like travel, cruises, bed and breakfasts, etc. but that just means I’m not looking for the commitment because I know AWALT. Women will monkey branch; it’s in their nature to be hypergamous. Why believe society’s soulmate/LTR leading to marriage lie? Hell, I eventually want to have kids someday, so I’ve gotta figure out the logistics on that, but I don’t feel sorry for myself because the logistics of spinning plates it’s too much and the grass looks greener on the other side cause things are easier. You’re looking to be lazy and get complacent. Don’t be that. Just be your best self and look out for your happiness.

That’s partially what TRP is to me: looking out for your happiness and improving yourself; whether that’s through one woman (LTR) or multiple (plates/polyamory). Do whatever fits you best, but find and live abundantly first.

modern-day-hemingway · 2019-03-09T05:25:39+00:00

I’ve felt the same, been single my whole life. However, I’ve had plates tell me they couldn’t date me, then basically explain in short how my smv was too high for them and they couldn’t deal with the thought of me being with other girls.

Keep living the rp lifestyle brother. Life is never ending suffering, but I’d rather suffer with options than live the life of a beta with only one

cuztrp · 2019-03-09T07:44:46+00:00

the only happy relationship that you might get in this time and age is a relationship where you're feeling completely stable, utterly focused on your mission, and have a drama-free life. A relationship where your girl is ready to fuck on the go.

The moment you start hamstering about her whereabouts or where she starts giving you drama more frequently than before, your relationship has just turned sad and what is to come only worse because had you reached that level, it only means that you've become low-value yourself.

I had the same thought as you a while ago but I must say I was more realistic about it.

Here's an example. Once, I saw a 3-year couple at my dorm cooking something. I figured they're happy until the girl gave me a look full of lust and explicitly challenged my friend's word on what to do in that situation. I said to myself, "Sure, they might seem happy, but Jesus the relationship is ending sooner or later." It was obvious that she's in her hypergamous state and is ready to branch swing any moment now. 3 months later my prophecy came true.

My relationship with my ex also seemed perfect from the outside, but I was a clingy bitch who's hamstering all the time and gained weight in the process and it ended up her thinking going back to her ex.

As cliché as it might sound, "Don't judge a book based on its cover". Every relationship is doomed to fail due to the imperfect nature of women and society no matter how happy or perfect it seemed.

T-P-T-W-P · 2019-03-09T15:19:07+00:00

I woke up to this a little bit ago. I didn’t go out last night, as I wanted to lift early and have fun tonight. But a chick I met at a bar a couple months ago, one who’s had the same boyfriend for a few years now, snapped me at 1am begging me to come meet her out. I said no and she replied with “well can I just come over”. I want you to keep in mind, they are all over each other’s Instagrams, and from the outside looking in, are by all means a “happy couple”. Sure, it’s definitely possible for you to find a wifey that sucks you right, never cheats, and follows your lead. You could also unknowingly become a beta cuck as she fucks the pool boy while you’re at work, much like the boyfriend in the above story. Third option is to not have a girlfriend or wife, bang anyone you’d like that is willing, have more free time and money, and not have to worry whether the actions of someone weaker of body and mind than you will lead to the ultimate crumbling of your life. Which seems the most reasonable? Don’t get me wrong, I will likely have a wife one day but I’m going to take a good long while before I decide if and which hand to shove all in on.

pridebrah · 2019-03-09T16:47:46+00:00

I haven't even read the advice in this thread, but there's a simple way to go about this: simply do what you want to do. Want to get into a relationship? Give it a shot when a girl comes along that you feel is worthy. Just vet these girls thoroughly.

If it works out, cool. If it doesn't, then you will see why a lot of guys advise avoiding it.

The truly RP guys on here have all been in relationships. You can't be fully RP'd without having been in a relationship at some point, because that's a big part of the game.

furcryingoutloud · 2019-03-09T07:09:55+00:00

Oooh yeah, happy couples. In the matrix, and happy as larks. Sure man. I'll bite.

You can do like Cypher and get plugged back in whenever you like. And then when the truth hits you in the face and you are struggling to get back up because your unicorn obliterated your life, you can retake the red pill. The good thing about it is that nobody is going to try and stop you. Go ahead man, knock yourself out. Just remember this, you will never recover the time you waste with your unicorn.

Go ahead man, plug yourself back in and come back and lie to us about how well it went.

Thunderfin · 2019-03-09T04:22:05+00:00

I'm 20 so granted in young but feel the same way.

Way more attractive and in shape than literally 95% of the guys at my school, confident when I talk to girls, yet can't with them for shit and other nerds have GFS

Probably a mix of super high standards on my part and intimidation

scanfan2022 · 2019-03-09T06:35:34+00:00

I find the idea of an LTR desirable at times. However, a quick survey of couples in my social circle leads me to the conclusion that I wouldn't want to trade places with 9/10 of the guys in those relationships.

rugged79 · 2019-03-09T09:28:37+00:00

You might try FWB.

If you're looking for a little companionship, it's a good middle ground between plate and LTR.

Or a "main" chick. Girl who knows you're both not exclusive, but gets some preferential treatment.

Both are harder to handle than a plate, and sometimes as challenging as an LTR, but it means you can scale back the plate spinning a bit.

amwfhunter · 2019-03-09T07:34:49+00:00

I people watch a lot. Happy couples in public the authentic looking ones are usually brand new honey moon phases, affairs or some rare legit ones.

I'm not going to dismiss that there arent legit happy couples but mathematically and statistically speaking very far and few between. I would be one of those happy couples because I'm in a good mood, had very good sex with my plate and we are out enjoying the day and each others company and she is probably a brand new plate and the novelty has not worn off. Honeymoon phase indefinite. The advantages of having international plates. You realize it is bullshit but it is fun when you're with them.

Dextorian · 2019-03-09T10:44:48+00:00

The lives we see portrayed are far from the actual lives people live. What you see and what goes on behind closed doors are two different things. Couples might look happy but the last time he had sex might of been one month ago because he “got lucky”

red_matrix · 2019-03-09T16:55:01+00:00

I’d recommend you listen to the Black Philip Show on your spare time (commuting, gym, etc): Black Philip Show - Patrice O’Neal

MattyAnon · 2019-03-10T01:56:08+00:00

All the happy couples are either faking it or in the honeymoon phase.

I've been in enough LTRs to know they are nothing like they appear to be. You get a few good years, you think you'll stick around, she senses beta tendencies and her entitlement goes through the roof as her sex drive falls through the flaw..... and she and her friends tell you how normal this is.

And they're right: it IS normal and it really sucks. It's easy to smile in a coffee shop.... but deep down you know something is very wrong. You just don't have the mental tools to know what: because the world keeps you from them. You're told you''re a good guy and you need to hear it. And good guys are loyal. So you're loyal. And unhappy. But you put a brave face on it.

Try a few 5 year LTRs and tell me it's worth it. Just don't get married: when it ends (And it always does....or should) you'll be glad you don't have to give her everything and pay for her lawyer to sue you for alimony.

You CAN be happy with a girl. For a while. But the whole "build something together" is bullshit. Women don't work that way, don't kid yourself.

Building something awesome is YOUR job. Her job is to turn up. Don't expect more than that from her, and don't give her more than she deserves either.

IRunYourRiver · 2019-03-09T13:34:49+00:00

Some of the happiest looking pictures of me with my wife were taken when I was the absolute most miserable in my marriage.

throwitdownman · 2019-03-09T06:16:30+00:00

The blue pill in you is rearing it’s ugly head again. Try to internalize TRP.

Cametotherightplace · 2019-03-09T08:44:36+00:00

You're thinking with emotions. Think with logic. 50 percent of first marriages end in divorce. 70 percent of all marriages end in divorce. 5 to 10 percent of women give birth to a child that is not their husbands. We live in an age where men lose power by day and women gain societal acceptance of hypergamy. I'm not saying dont get a ltr or a wife I'm just saying odds are stacked against your best interests.

meikyo_shisui · 2019-03-09T10:26:48+00:00

They seem happy, but you don't see any shit that goes on behind closed doors. Some of the shit I hear from guys in 'happy couples' (totally whipped) is shocking and makes me glad to be single, but anyway....

You need to look at what you have not being one of these couples; 1. Freedom 2. Time

These are priceless. All of your time is your own to better yourself or enjoy life, be it studying, lifting, travelling, or just doing your own hobbies. And you're free to meet women who may be far better than an LTR you could have fallen into - while constantly raising your value as you have the time to do so. Of course you can, and should, do these things in an LTR, but realistically it will never be to the same extent.

Sure, LTRs can be great. But so is not being in one, you just need to take advantage of either situation.

I've been out of an LTR for 4 months and in that time I've learned to ride a motorbike, visited two countries, gained new skills for my career, got better at guitar, added 10% to my lifts and gained muscle, made a lot of extra money for fun things by working overtime and had several encounters with different women I wouldn't have been able to have before. During that time, what have the 'happy couple' guys at work done? Jack shit, mostly. It doesn't have to be that way, but you can bet it's true for most if the dude is an AFC. Own your life.

INNASKILLZ2K18 · 2019-03-09T10:29:47+00:00

I've been around the block a few times, and almost every ltr I've seen, unless worked on Red Pill principles, has been a horrible piece of shit I would never want in on.

They look 'happy' because the blue pill has told them to be committed, they need a partner, supplicate to the woman and pat yourself on the back. None of them have had the sex life the guy really desire, they've all made some big life decisions to keep the girl happy, and for many their balls have just...gone.

Fuck, my mate and his girl looks happy as hell. In truth, he is miserable. She controls his money, she controls the sex, all sorts of bad shit. Don't forget that many many ltr's are entered into under bluepill fantasies and feminine imperatives.

Red pill, and spinning plates is what I always biologically desired, from my true masculine. An LTR isn't out of the question, but only if a very particular girl proves herself over a period of time, within a red pill frame.

For myself, whenever I wonder about ltr's, I just think 'why'? Like, what truly would it give me? I don't have a scarcity mindset, I'm not interested in providing resources, or possibly altering some life decisions to keep her happy. She loses a lot of hardcore desire, once she knows she's your only option. Like I say, it's not out of the question, but she can prove herself worth, rather than me pursue it.

LordMarkStark · 2019-03-09T14:43:18+00:00

Yes.. but well, they're happy for those couple of hours they're out, wait till he needs to do the garden or get the kids off to school then try to turn her on when he has to wake up for work early.. Anyway..... It's time to go steady or attempt to with a girl. You need to feel it But ok.. Make sure she's submissive to you, nice and compliant, compliments what you're about even if just a little bit.

It's time to see if it all agrees with you for a while. You don't have to turn into a total monogamous for ever, but you seem to want to. Next decent girl who comes along don't treat her differently too much but make the time to give her an even better crack at you.

If you don't you will regret it some day. Me I always look out for top girls to do that with. Because you can go a long way through many a pussy before you find one. When you do, submit her to your will and make her yours by spending increasing amounts of time and effort with her, doesn't have to be too fast but increasing... Until you can't take it no more.

It's no different to normal proceedings but you may in time cut her more slack and be nicer to her in general. My family was stoked when I settled down when I was younger for a bit.

That was an actual exclusive relationship. But in this dating environment you may get the same benefits and effects if you simply pick one girl to be your foremost girl in the harem and don't tie yourself down so soon or too quickly. By spending more time on her you may wish to cut others loose, so be it. She'll have to do many things for you and even then there's no guarantees, but you're doing this level of commitment for your own pleasure. So when it all goes pear shaped you hopefully won't be too cut up about it. Above all though, love the bitch openly and freely. It's not a thing to do half heartedly. Make a go of it. Don't cut your nose off to spite your face. Just know the pitfalls do exist but at least you'll taste full happiness and more importantly satisfaction hopefully where plates simply can't do to the same level, at least for a time. Everyone should try as much as possible but don't tie yourself together so tight like mixing finances.

You may also get the same effect by elevating one of your plates to exaulted status and just kind of love her without strings or attachment because you appreciate her feminity and maybe do more with her than you otherwise would. Marriage for example is just a piece of paper. You could just stop sleeping with your other plates to see if you like it. Of course you can't guarantee she will stop sleeping with everyone.

Ymmv

But this is a genuine thing trp can't touch. There will be some beta moments because relationships are two ways. She may not sleep round, not all girls do. The sub talks a big game but you can't hate on women. If you do only choose one girl it's not like you won't get others when/if the relationship ends. There's heaps of things you can do with real girlfriends that you can't do with proper plates. Don't half live your life! You've done one, do the other, stay solid. It's hard to say which side is best I've done both no regrets. Swap round. But when you pick some chick truly pick her. Be willing to cut off all plates, tell them you're with someone. No funny business. If your gf is worth it and you picked right it'll be ok.

It's no big deal. You're betraying no one, only yourself if you don't keep a look out for such a girl when she comes along. She better be hot though. Not super hot, no sense loving someone who everyone is trying to fuck daily, but hot enough ... And importantly... Right enough for you to do this with. Skewer towards her attitudes. Don't get with a shitty attitude. Picking an LTR is finely balanced, too nice but not hot is bad, too hot but not nice is bad too

smolzino · 2019-03-09T21:00:51+00:00

Dude you have to realize that TRP is a very, VERY biased community.

If you read this thread it would seem that there are no happy couples. That's horseshit. There are plenty of happy couples. I know a lot of them. Hell I'm in a happy relationship.

The truth is that if you use TRP wisely, it's not that hard to be in a happy relationship if you vet the girl properly. Don't compromise on red flags and you'll have a high chance of success

FinanceChair · 2019-03-10T04:03:21+00:00

People looking happy in public doesn’t mean shit.

Maybe once they get home they fight and argue.

Not sure where you live but divorce rates is 50 percent and climbing.

A lot of couples are unhappy.

Dwarf_King · 2019-03-11T23:58:38+00:00

You need to work on your personality more then anything.

Yougotredonyouagain · 2019-03-09T06:17:27+00:00

No, you don't.

Ninokun · 2019-03-09T10:16:41+00:00

Those couples probably are not all happy. what u see is the woman getting her way getting the man to take shopping or for Dinner which he pays. u dont know if he is getting his part of the Deal.

Betas also can get Girlfriends. what TRP preaches is to get women to desire u sexually.

aDrunkenWhaler · 2019-03-09T10:08:47+00:00

the mental gymnastics of handling plates is catching up to me. My mind almost wants to fold into a relationship and build something meaningful.

Eventually you will build the experience and confidence to be upfront with them about having other women. You will not need to lie to them, or do any mental gymnastics, and even introduce then to each other.

RedNightOwl · 2019-03-09T03:53:10+00:00

you just not good looking enough.

Title	I see happy couples everywhere
Author	RedNightOwl
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Date	March 9, 2019 3:51 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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