There’s a lot of talk on here about people’s experiences with BPD girls, and the condition is more common in women than men, but less so on NPD.

Narcissistic personality disorder presents in two forms: covert and grandiose. I have now experienced women with both.

In both cases, NPD females tend to be much smarter in the way they present to you and attempt to manipulate you than their male counterparts; from day 1 they are analysing every aspect of your behaviour, testing you in a level beyond shit tests and into the realm of psychological profiling, and their end game is far more malicious than a BPD - who ultimately is someone with wild but honest mood swings.

NPD probably has its roots in very early childhood and trauma and I do have some sympathy for them however I also believe that due to the extreme narcissistic supply provided by social media and the dynamics of dating currently, you are far more likely to find yourself as a man confronted by a female with NPD than ever before.

Pay close attention to early signs:

• Do they share any vulnerabilities about themselves or do they just happen to be brilliant at everything? In a cover this can be presented subtly, in an grandiose it’s just obvious, everything they do they are coincidentally amazing at

• Was just about everyone no longer in their life, particularly exes, “toxic”? Do they have a string of stories about how they were wronged by x y a individual? Red flag

• Love bombing - grandiose might not make much of an effort, if she’s hot she will expect a bit of thrust trapping is all you’ll need, but coverts will lavish you with adoration before they even know your surname

• Gaslighting - most of you will have heard the phrase but it is truly a spine tingling phenomenon to experience. Cold hard historical facts regarding your interaction with her will be denied and everything will be warped until you hardly trust your own memory.

• Back handed compliments - a classic and I have a perfect example, very devious and smart. One NPD I was seeing would always tell me “I forgot how much I missed you” and jump into my arms whenever we met up.. initially you think that’s great right? But the implication is “I forgot about you, work harder so I don’t forget”

• Mirroring - initially they seem to share all the same hobbies and interests as you, but this soon gives way to clear lack of knowledge about any of it, and usually a bizarre lack of any particular hobbies and interests at all..

• History of SSRI use, depersonalisation, extreme promiscuity, heavy heavy use of weed, these are all commonly associated

• Perhaps the creepiest of all, the “narc stare”; when they think you aren’t looking, and sometimes even if they know you are, they will stare at you blankly with these empty soulless eyes. Who knows what is going on in their heads in those moments but it is most likely intense analysis of you and your behaviour.

In my cases in of these girls ended up trying to steal my phone due to assuming I was cheating, that plus this overall feeling that she was some kind of android led me to run away.

In the second case, a grandiose, she turned out to be a habitual attendee at swingers parties that were posted to OF. This all keep as DL as possible beneath a respectable career. It was my own fault for not bouncing sooner as she gave clues: constantly self praise, hot and cold game playing, non-existent hobbies and interests.

Educate and be aware guys because they are the absolute end boss for female manipulation. I have infinite sympathy for the female victims of male narcs also, but they are a very different kettle of fish and much more discussed. Female narcs often have their claws in a man before he realises what’s up abs the mental health consequences can be devastating.

If you are dating girls in the 25-30 age range then you will be coming across a higher than usual % of NPDs as they crash and burn from their early 20s relationship and enter a chaotic period of protracted singleness punctuated by attempts to capture a beta provider. Do not be that guy.