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[–]rudebwoy100 106 points107 points108 points 4 years ago (37 children) | Copy Link
The hardest part is getting a good paying career. You can get in good shape and become sociable within a year but to go from dead end 9-5 to good paying career takes forever.
[–][deleted] 58 points59 points60 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The hardest part is that a good career, exercise, fashion, and maintaining a nice place of living takes a lot of time. And if you don’t have any other hobbies, you’ll come off as boring.
So now you need to handle all that shit plus put effort into dating on top of it. It’s really fucking hard!
Which is why it’s important to start as soon as possible. I wasted my early 20s for no good reason and now I’m finally in a good position, but have to learn the game from scratch.
[–]aviator122 30 points31 points32 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Financial stability is more important then how much money you make. And being passionate about whatever it is you do is 100% more attractive than how much money you make.
[–]ElHombreG 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is the easiest thing to do, especially in the USA. You can commit 4 to 6 yrs of your life to going to evening classes at a community college, spending free time learning how to code, joining an apprenticeship to land a union job, or pursuing a masters and can go from making 45k to over 100k.
If you can’t do something that’s as linear as leveling up your career, other aspects of self improvement are going to kick your ass.
[–]Woujo 35 points36 points37 points 4 years ago (31 children) | Copy Link
This is wrong. Women don't give a shit about your career if you can make them emotionally excited.
[–]caesarfecit 42 points43 points44 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
This is both true and false.
Yes, what ultimately matters to a woman is how a man makes her feel.
But if you don't do the work to actually build your self-esteem and a lifestyle you're proud of, then the best you can aspire to be is a really good actor. And with women, sooner or later the show cannot go on.
[–]fuckboychadlmao 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
But if you don't do the work to actually build your self-esteem and a lifestyle you're proud of, then the best you can aspire to be is a really good actor.
This is true, but really has nothing to do with what Woujo said.
You can have a good self esteem, and have a lifestyle you’re proud of without having a “ good paying career” yet. Look at guys in high school, guys in college, party guys, etc. It all comes down to knowing yourself, knowing your interests, and being on your purpose. Doesnt always take money to do this.
[–]caesarfecit 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's why I phrased things the way I did.
Money will not get you laid, and if it does, run.
But at the same time, it's hard to feel successful and happy in your own life if your career is nonexistent and you're having trouble paying the bills. You don't need to be rich, but why be poor if you don't have to be?
What is important is to be on your purpose. That way, you can still have confidence and direction in life regardless of how much money you're making.
A bunch of people whined in another thread because I brought up Gordon Ramsay as an example of a man who found his purpose and through it, his identity. But when he was learning how to cook in France, he was flat broke and had a girlfriend that could and did financially support him. Why? Because he was on his purpose and attractive because he was on his purpose.
[–]pally_101 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is so true I had to screenshot . 5head
[–]b_a_d_r0b0t 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
For a one night stand
[–]Redbroomstick 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Need a career so you can afford a nice pad nearby the bars/clubs /date spots.
Need a career so you can afford to go to places that charge cover.
Money makes pickup a lot easier.
[–]b_a_d_r0b0t 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Unless you are Chad who fucks chicks behind a dumpster.
[–]Redbroomstick 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Need a career so you can afford jaw implants and chin surgery.
Unless you're born a Chad, then wtf are you doing on this sub 😂😂
[–]RussianBoa -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What kind of drugs do you (or the girl) have to be on to do that? Never heard of anyone that partook in that type of experience smh.
[–]b_a_d_r0b0t 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen
[–]rudebwoy100 34 points35 points36 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Bruh... you tripping.
A guy who's average looking with a $30k/year dead end low wage job who didn't go to University isn't going to be attractive to most women regardless of how much game that man has.
[–]Delicatestatesmen 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
in california 50k is poor
[–]Kobe_curry24 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You can do this easily find a spot for 800 and just be close to downtown or a college town next thing is you want to link up with someone who throws parties or club nights and once you linked in with them getting women easy Tdd game says create a system to get what you want in life both tie in with that being said , yes it takes time you gotta be in the trenches for a while
[–]Woujo 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Here we fucking go again with this beta provider mindset.
Yes, when women are looking to settle down and get married they look for a guy with a good job. But if a woman just wants to get fucked, why would she care what your salary is? Here is an excerpt from a book I am working on:
One of the most common platitudes in the dating world is that women only (or primarily) care about money. Men who believe this idiotic platitude often end up becoming ATMs for women who take their money and then run off to have sex with other men who actually stimulate their emotions. Having resources is one of many characteristics of the alpha male, but just having money is a relatively minor characteristic and not enough to sustain attraction on its own. A lot of women chase rich guys for strategic and rational reasons, but money is only emotionally attractive to women because it subconsciously indicates the man is an alpha male and is competent enough to defeat the relevant challenges and obtain resources. Numerous scientific studies have shown that women are more attracted to men who are broke but competent over men who are rich but incompetent. This makes perfect evolutionary sense: a man with 100 bananas and no ability to get new bananas is less attractive than a man with 0 bananas who feels like he can go into the jungle and get infinite bananas whenever he wants.
Nevertheless, some women have addictions to lower pleasures like drugs, partying, and a lavish lifestyle, and end up with inferior guys to feed these addictions. Sometimes beautiful women date and have sex with ugly losers just because they are addicted to stupid things. Instead of hating those women, you should feel bad for them – their addictions have forced them into accepting a substandard, non-transcendent emotional experience.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I upvoted, but I want to state that I agree with this completely.
[–]Stone-Cold-Advice 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Meh. There's beautiful women all over the place. Hot women are a dime a dozen. Now, I got my hot wife and have been happily married for 20 years, but she brings a lot to the table and makes my life infinitely better and easier. Stop fawning over women or beauty. Some of the hottest women I've been with were ugly AF on the inside.
If all they bring to the table is looks, hit the road.
[–]Woujo 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
1) what does your comment have to do with my comment?
2) why are you on this subreddit?
[–]Stone-Cold-Advice 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You seem pretty obsessed with all this because you're writing a book on it and making banana jungle analogies. It's way overdone and over thought. I've never scored with a babe by doing this over the top stuff. What does my comment have to do with yours? I'm telling guys not to read books and stuff like this. Alphas and betas? Jesus man.
Why am I on this subreddit? To keep an eye on the latest nonsense and games some guys try to play so I can keep doing the opposite.
The only way to get women is to truly TRULY not give a fuck whether you get with women. This focus on beauty does nothing but make dudes nervous and put women up on a pedestal they don't need to be on.
I'm not trying to be a dick. But you probably think I am.
Once I truly stopped caring about getting women, I started to get women. Once we stop giving a fuck about women or beauty, we free ourselves.
Just my 2 cents, from a married guy who has threeways with my wife and other women.
But good luck dude, I really wish you all the success with women.
[–]Woujo 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yeah "stop caring" is exactly the kind of generic, trite, meaningless advice that doesnt actually help inexperienced guys with anxiety around women, which is why I do what I do. You don't seem to actually care about helping either, but rather bragging to strangers on the internet. So until you can actually improve guys' lives, I am not interested in what you have to say.
[–]Stone-Cold-Advice -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I am helping, just not the same way you are. You're pulling out the old platitudes as well. It's all acting and women know it.
The only way to remove the anxiety is to focus on your own life and what makes your life the very best life it can be. You do it for you, not women. If you're doing something with women in mind, you're still stuck in the rat race.
Women want men who don't need them. They can tell. Why is that so hard to understand?
It's cool if you think I'm bragging. I'm just giving my credentials as a guy who got to the other side of all this. What I'm sharing is what worked for me and how I got here.
Don't want to care about my opinion because it's different than yours? Fine by me.
Enjoy writing your book dude. I wish you the best of luck and I mean that.
[–]Woujo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't think you've actually read my work. I am saying the same thing - focus on your purpose, not women, etc... But I am also saying that getting women is not just about getting money, because that is a real thing that a lot of guys think, including guy sin this thread. You seem to just want to argue for no fucking reason other than to tell people how much pussy you get. Fuck off.
[–]iiexistenzeii 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Man I'm hoping to see your book around... Make sure you make a post about it. Excited to read it for sure.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
How do you make them emotionally excited
[–]YtBlue 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Act like your a king that's above them. You tolerate them only if they act a certain way, and never do anything that makes you look weak.
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[–]YtBlue 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Sure but it's more of a mindset than a list of actions. A king never allows anyone close, only when carefully vetted to do so. This is why girls love talking about themselves to you. They view you as a "king" and they sell themselves wanting to join. Any actions showing otherwise will turn them off because your a phony. That means no early declerations of love, wanting to sleep/hang with her early on, being nervous around her. Also not allowing yourself to be ran over. Take your time and ask questions that make her think you're carefully choosing her for that spot. It works because most girls live for excitement and that gets confused with anxiety because physically they feel the same..
Anxiety when interacting with a person one on one comes from thinking a person is better than them. This can be physically or mentally.Girls confuse anxiety with excitement and attraction.If you never act in that way, you'll pass up most girls. This is why real players never get nervous, because they either truly think they are better than most or understand everybody is the same.
[–]hellennahandbasket 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Um No. I’m a woman and this answer is laughable.
[–]YtBlue 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Being a woman doesn't give you credibility. For most people the line between arrogance and confidence is invisible. People can't tell.
[–]theprufeshanul 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
To initiate, yes, to maintain, no.
[–]Kobe_curry24 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is spot on Guys need experience with women with that being said the quality of wine has diminished even at the top so it still tough pick ems but most guys gotta figure out one women then move on to dating multiple as they get better with game and getting women , tbh my life got better as I started to understand women and how to get them especially closing good Roi women
[–]ace_qk 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Start a business
[–]caesarfecit 56 points57 points58 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
"Ever loved someone so much you'd do anything for them? Now make that person yourself and do whatever the hell you want."
Yes, it's true now that relationships are no longer formed by mutual necessity and instead by choice, and that means it's a lot harder to form and maintain relationships.
What men are missing these days is they're focusing too much on whether the girls like them, and not on whether or not they like themselves. Because the secret of game is, when you genuinely like and respect yourself, women are a lot more likely to do the same. The less you have to prove to them, the more they feel like they need to prove themselves to you. And the more willing they are to do so.
That's what the naturals have or appear to have, and Nice Guys lack. Everything else averages out but that.
The other secret of game is that you the people you attract and draw into your life are the ones you subconsciously screen for, the ones who are compatible with you. If you find yourself in a "ones you can get, you don't want, and the ones you want, you can't get" the obvious answer is that you're not attracting the right people, and the only solution there is to work on yourself.
There are some people who shit on this message because they think it's a copout from teaching actual game, or because it's a platitude. I'm here to tell you that everything I've learned about game has always led me back, full circle, to working on myself. I've had some real success, but I'm still learning, and still bullying myself to get out of my comfort zone.
There are valid elements of outer game that are important. The mechanics of flirting, little tips on things like fashion, social skills, and various little cute moves and escalation tricks. Meta-concepts like calibration, and emotional connection. But canned lines will not get you laid. None of the outer game stuff will really achieve what it should unless your primary focus is on improving your mindset.
Most people become who they are by following the path of least resistance. But man is the animal who invents himself. The more sincerely you apply yourself to this task, the easier and faster you will get good.
That's why someone like Neil Strauss for instance got so good so fast. His inner game actually wasn't that bad, he just had no moves. He had confidence and a strong identity, just no confidence with women. That's also why he didn't fall down the same rabbit hole as the other PUAs in The Game.
[–]Potential-Lab5749 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This needs to be on top ^
I myself can vouch for it. There is no special game of flirting or to get laid. Pickup Artists earn on your mysery + they tend to think every girl is the same which adds to your failure and you keep on spending $$'s on absolute garbage.
Trust me, I was in a similar situation and these pickup trucks instead of working used to absolute backfire.
See my dudes, you've a natural game which cannot be taught to you. It is discovered, period. Once you start working on yourself and resolve the problems that we keep generally on backseat you'll gain real confidence and love for yourself. It won't be that narcissistic love but a genuine love for yourself. You'll have no ego, however, a solid self respect (there is a thin line between both) and at that moment when you'll start talking to women you will get your game.
Now, I sometimes think that this "game" word confuses guys and sometimes overwhelms them. So, let me simplify. It's nothing!
As I said previously, when you concentrate on yourself, you'll gain confidence and love for yourself. What this will result is in your "tonality" while talking. Working 4 years as a Business Development Manager taught me it's importance.
You can say most generic line, "You look gorgeous" it can have great impact based on how you say it. It's the tone which is boring not the words. Don't stress yourself on becoming a poet just for getting laid, you will burn your money, time and many chances you had.
Stay well, eat well, sleep well and take care!
[–]caesarfecit 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree with the overwhelming majority of what you said, with one slight point.
Outer game may be less important in the long run than inner game, but it's not like it's all snake oil or it doesn't matter.
The point is that outer game comes after inner game. 80% of your effort should be focused on getting on your purpose and general self-improvement, with the remaining 20% on getting out there and getting your reps in.
If you want to get good, Mark Manson's Three Fundamentals is the blueprint, and they go in order of importance (but all three matter).
Work on your lifestyle, and get on your purpose to fix your inner game and hone in on your target demographic of women. To put it simply, if you like athletic girls with rockin' bodies, getting in shape and doing athletic stuff makes everything easier. Live your values and you'll meet more women who share your values.
Focus on taking action and getting out there. Victory comes to the people who can get over their ego, get over their anxiety, and just get out there and sincerely try their best. Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence, and specifically the persistence to keep putting yourself out there, to take rejection with class, and to try with an open heart and an open mind.
Focus on practicing good game and refining your social skills. This is where outer game really re-enters the picture, but it's the ornamentation on top of solid fundamentals. Outer game is all about improving your batting average and grinding stupid mistakes out of your game.
[–]3rdworldsoldier 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But man is the animal who invents himself.
This reminded me of a quote I once heard. "Man cannot remake himself without suffering for, he is both the marble and the sculptor."
[–]Spare_Slice8275 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
An award to you good sir. THIS is the way!
[–]PersianIncision 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Can also vouch for this, great post and more ppl need to follow this advice
[–]pooserboy 40 points41 points42 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Screw this shit I’m gonna start fuccin dudes
[–]Actual_Lifeguard5497 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lmaooooooo
[–][deleted] 39 points40 points41 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Most men are average. Most women are average. It's not that hard.
[–]Havocnumbanine 58 points59 points60 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Only thing I’d add is most average women are delusional, as in they thing most men are the top 10%. That’s another thing we need to adapt to
[–]LORD-THUNDERCUNT 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Problem is there is no such thing as an “average women” anymore. I’ll give an example. what would you call a man who essentially has an unlimited amount of matches on Tinder/constantly has women in his DMs on various social media platforms? You and everyone else would consider him to be well above average.....that’s the reality for every single women.
[–]mookyvon 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Most men will settle for an average women. You are delusional if you think the opposite is true.
[–]Troklokhan 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
How do you explain all those "average" dudes who settle with women?
[–]Troklokhan 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They come in all ages.
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
80% of women sleep with 20% of dudes, it is that hard
[–]b_a_d_r0b0t 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But average women sleeps with top 5% of men and think they deserve the top 5%. They reject to rest and then complain there are no good men for relationship.
[–]Delicatestatesmen 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I have dated over 200 women; Here is what I have learned: Hope it helps
women rate men based on these things typically.
Current earning, potential to earn, Height, weight, looks and educational bg, social circle and status, vehicle, talent, humor, living arrangements, intelligence and confidence, communication skills, culture and race, politics, religion and interests.
Each women rates these differently some are more into looks while others the top would be humor etc down the list. Many want 4 to 5 of these things or more in different combinations. I call them boxes, they come singular or in groups at different combinations.
The more well rounded you are the more opportunities you get, The more boxes you have the better the odds. Also your boxes are compared to many guys shes currently dating and have dated.
Its pointless to say girls only want rich guys because if your not the height they want and height is a top box you may be out.
Their are take aways if your lacking in 1 but overwhelming in another she can bend and be flexible it all comes down to what her top boxes are.
Also timing: Ever see a hot girl with an ugly guy or a broke guy?
Sometimes if all she dated were rich guys that treated her like shit she may try a poor guy or an ugly guy and you happen to come along at the time shes trying something new.
To sum up gauge her interest level and listen to the questions she gives.
what do you do for a living?
Her top box is job.
Where did you go to school?
next top box is education.
Ask her what was your ex like?
Oh he was an nba player that treated me really bad. - Guess what your the new timing guy shes looking for something different.
If she doesnt ask these questions then shes probably just into sex or has low interest.
1.) Listen to her questions to learn her top boxes.
2.) gauge her interest level
3.) Find out where she is in life and a little about her ex… to know if or what kind of timing you have. Women have to be emotionally ready also to date.
[–]Sensitive-Permit-877 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I disagree about the relationship part. Women select the sex partners. Men select who they marry and date and give his resources security and abundance too. If you are chasin women for a relationship you are doing something wrong
[–]TheseAreMyLastWords 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"women sleep with who they want and marry who they can. men sleep with who they can and marry who they want" - Buddah
[–]Sensitive-Permit-877 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Damn rights
[–]gammaJinx 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I meant in the sense that you need to go through a lot of women to find the woman that is the best for you
[–]Sensitive-Permit-877 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ahhh yes sir thats the shitty part of life.
[–]MagnusRoundstone 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Meh, you don’t necessarily need to go through a lot. You just need to go through enough to find someone close enough to make it work. One person may find their woman very early into dating. Someone else may never find her. It is all a bit of luck in when someone meets “her”.
[–]Snakehead004 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Alll people have to work for quality sex and especially relationships. Women just have different problems like weeding through douche bags negging them.
[–]Alive-Doughnut2345 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If it’s any consolation, regardless of who you end up attracting or not, you pretty much have to work on and improve yourself anyway or this world will wallop you. As far as I’m concerned there’s no better use of your time
“To those who have everything more will be given, to those who have nothing more will be taken”
Use this quote to your advantage
[–]thelambofdeth 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link
This "advice" is pointless because average women have their egos boosted by a massive surplus of validation from OLD, SM, orbiters from work, school, etc, their social circle, randos on the street and on and on. If you're average your looksmatch is going to have the selection pool of so many options, you have to be well above average to even have a chance. Being in shape and dressing well isn't enough. You pretty much have to be a Chad or well off just to appeal to an average woman. You can be tall, in pretty good shape, groom, practical pracrice high-tier hygiene and dress extremely well(all things I've done/am) and it means nothing because every woman has some Chad slumming it with her or a legion of simps gassing her up.
[–]LevelUp84 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
😂 😂 😂 Just being in shape puts you in the upper echelon.
[–]thelambofdeth -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lies. I'm in shape, tall, and I dress well and it's made NO difference with women. It doesn't even put me in the the average echelon lol
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Simply having the balls to approach a woman instantly puts you above all the men she knows who didn’t approach her.
Social media and online dating are a double-edged sword because while they inflated the egos of women, they also made most men even less likely to approach women.
[–]thelambofdeth -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
But she's still going to be approached. At the bar, at work, at the park, at the coffee shop, etc. There will still always be guys who approach and many of them will just by sheer odds, be high tier, and those will be the ones she waits for. Approaching doesn't suddenly make you attractive. She's still going to just hold out for that Chad.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Then work on being attractive while you’re at it. I’m not a Chad by any means, but I’m tall, fit, and my face is pleasant to look at. In addition I have lots of hobbies, a decent job, and an all-around interesting life. Sure it would be nice if I had supermodel face genetics, but I don’t need them. Truth is I know guys way less attractive and desirable than me who do way better with women because they’re outgoing and personable.
[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude, I've done everything I can to maximize my physical potential sans get plastic surgery. I'm 6'3, I dress better than any straight guy should, I'm in great shape, I groom and have hair and skin regimes to the point of metrosexuality, I have a decent job, interests, I go out...but none of that matters bc my face isn't pleasant to look at. It must be nice to live in some world where women care more about being outgoing than your looks, but it sure isn't the one I live in.
[–]thelambofdeth 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Smh
[–]Troklokhan 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Idk man, I only heard incels use the word "looksmatch".
[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]SauceyButler 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Are you a boy or girl? Cause if you're a guy, then I'm pretty sure your long ass sharpie colored nails is what's scaring people off.
[–]thelambofdeth -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Lol yep it's totally that. A totally reasonable assessment smh
[–]SauceyButler 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Your pictures have those nails in them, that's why I asked. And yes, I would say it's a factor. Less if you're a girl, but definitely if you're a guy.
[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Tbh those pictures are old...my nails are shorter and no longer painted and it's much feck all of difference. Females are looking at your face not your nails. That's what makes the difference.
[–]SauceyButler 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Girls pay attention to all of it man. Just being honest.
[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Well like I said, it couldn't mattered that much one way or the other bc they haven't noticed me any more w/o them. Women are pretty shallow. As long as you have the face, that's all that matters.
[–]SauceyButler 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Like it's just one piece of the puzzle. A lot of things together will make women notice you more. Confidence, hygiene, hair, body, etc. Plus you gotta be out there to get attention too.
[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Let's see, I'm 6'3, I'm in shape, I have hair and skin regimes, I groom, I dress better than any straight man should and I go out every weekend. Literally the one thing I don't have is the face, which is the only thing that matters...
[–]SauceyButler 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
But are you making yourself available? You can't be afraid of being rejected. Just talk to people. I'm definitely closer to average and never had issues meeting women and I'm married now to a beautiful woman.
[–]Canadian-Seductioner 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My man out here speaking truth. Lots of guys are just bitter that they actually have to put work in to get laid.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Even more, now we're competing vs dildos and all kinds of gadgets. You add the shitty advice like "you're a queen, you deserve a king etc" you add the massive ego from instagram and the likes, you add the simps that give them validation, you add tinder that gives them too many choices, the fake choice of " well, i have my job i don't need anybody in my life, nobody deserves me " and you add all the ways you can entertain yourself without needing another person and you get this shit show that is dating in 2022. And i'm talking here about normal girls, not the really beautiful ones. The game got fucked so bad
[–]bumpadumpdump 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Weird, I just poured some tea before this post jumped out at me
[–]Comprehensive_Buy7 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah, most guys who have relationships don't do those things.
[–]i_love_crazy_hobos 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah for real. This post answers like half of the questions asked in r/seduction
[–]kittybrehbreh 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You want a relationship? Stop pushing so hard for one. They’ll literally let you know if they’re interested in it.
[–]aviator122 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree but would argue that average men don't know how to be different. The reason all the original pick up artists back in 2005 were successful like mystery, strauss and d Angelo were because they peacocked and created routines know one else new. It wasn't until they gave away the secrets that thousands of men followed and evolved into cringe and repetitive programmerd robots
Today millions of men try to have the same haircuts, same gym routines, same jobs, same sports and don't find uniqueness in what makes them likable or human. We can say women do the same behind filters, clout and social media but we turn into mindless creatures and it leaks into dating.
Most dating coaches and online forms now days are scam artists who expect to be paid 250 bucks for a 5 minute suggestion on what pictures to put on tinder. Want real results? Don't be a chump, be the best version of yourself and have passion in what you do. That shits attractive
What an amount of bullshit.
[–]Academic_Cucumber_91 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I disagree my Good Sir! I will keep complaining just so I can hear your mediocre advice!
[–]RStonePT 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
but even more so for a relationship.
You aren't working for a relationship, girls are. The reason you're struggling is because you're doing the girls job and frankly you suck at it.
Fuck. Let the girls who want to keep you around put in that effort.
[–]gammaJinx -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’m saying that the amount of girls you have to go through to find the best for a relationship is very large
[–]RStonePT 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And?
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ive just accepted that I’m not anyone’s cup of tea.
[–]Zenis 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Guys it’s simple: if you want to make money in the stock market, buy low and sell high! Get used to it, fellas!
This advice isn’t wrong, but pretty low value. And, sorry to be kind of a Dick here, based on your posting history, you’re not in any position to be giving advice on dating at all.
Good news is, you can learn and get better! Maybe you’ve had a recent success and think you’re king shit of fuck mountain, but don’t let it go to your head. Maybe something clicked, or it could just be variance. Keep learning before advising.
[–]ogroyalsfan1911 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Most women are average.
[–]throwaway707356 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
lol you're an absolute idiot. most PEOPLE are average. men and women. That's literally the definition of the word average.
[–]AmmoTuff182 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol idk why you’re getting downvoted. Most men and women are average
[–]gammaJinx 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I’m aware of that dumbass. The problem is that most women don’t approach men, especially average men
[–]Backheelfields -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Im confused, is this a girl talking shit ? lmao
[–]JacobMoogberg69 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You go do that bud.
[–]vLeskur 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah, we just need to get a good career and all of a sudden everything you mentioned doesnt mean jack shit
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
U do all realize that there is lots of below average women. All things are pretty equal in the end. Improve ur self not to get a gf or sex etc. Just do it cus life more often then not is crap so do ur best to make it less crappier. And ull find a less crappy person to spend it with
[–]DonSpiro92 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Living with the fact I'm dateless, giving me peace. Once I accepted it, it no longer controls me. I feel happy where I am even without a partner by my side
[–]svengeance_for_sven 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sincerely, A man on this sub.
[–]ChurchofCaboose1 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That exact scenario is why I don't try to schedule more than one date in a day. I'll do a few in a week. But I don't want to have to cut something short cuz of another girl. To me, I know I'd feel disrespected and invalidated if she did that me so why would I do that to her?
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