If looks are all that matter

Old_Factor_2595 · 2026-07-20T19:29:08+00:00

It's not about what looks are objectively but rather the message of the looks . If a guy who has proper hygiene and looks like he exercises in cardio or lifts and is athletically toned at the bare minimum. The Halo Effect that comes with this look of maxing your best potential out .will have people assume on first impressions before you even utter a single word that you are disciplined,competent and full of self respect .

People will often gravitate towards those people who respect themselves and their looks convey the message for you before you speak . And how you communicate with them is what determines you closing that attraction gap with them .

But I definitely agree on the last one . If she likes you then you won't feel like second guessing and overthinking every detail in her behavior towards you.

Mc_Dickles · 2026-07-20T19:44:04+00:00

Nobody hear says “looks are all that matter.” In this sub we encourage guys to be well groomed, enrich their lives with hobbies and interests, and self-reflect in the hopes of being a better person when they finally decide to let someone be a part of their lives. Once they’ve done all 3, then it’s all about putting your best foot forward into presenting yourself. Looks aren’t the only thing that matter. Hell, I’m single and I see guys objectively less handsome than me with girlfriends.

ManaDeus · 2026-07-20T21:50:31+00:00

They are just coping lol

Game is what matters, I tell you: I go out in the club, 2-3 average chicks may check me out, that’s all.

Then I leave with one of the cutest, that’s pure game.

Not_RZA_ · 2026-07-20T19:24:23+00:00

When did anyone say that?

Independent-Cod-5938 · 2026-07-20T19:43:16+00:00

No one said looks are the only thing that matters.

allthatentrails · 2026-07-20T19:57:15+00:00

I think the consensus amongst coaches nowadays is more that 'looks get your foot in the door, but you still need game to seal the deal'

Wide-Illustrator2906 · 2026-07-20T20:20:18+00:00

Looks are 50% of the equation. If you don't have them, then you need to be maxed out or close to it in another area (social skils, fitness, status, money, height or face) to be able regularly pull attractive women.

TrixoftheTrade · 2026-07-20T20:42:36+00:00

Holy strawman argument

Realwoujo · 2026-07-20T20:59:33+00:00

The only people that say "looks are all that matter" are ugly guys that want an excuse to not improve their game. Looks matter, but they are not all that matter.

United-Implement-382 · 2026-07-20T19:25:37+00:00

That’s because looks aren’t the only thing that matters. Attraction consists of layers. Looks, personality, and a bunch of other shit you can’t see. Women do get turned on by looks, but not how we think they do. A woman can get turned on by the size of a man’s hands or some other random shit. You’d be surprised by what triggers a woman’s attraction.

Prudent_Impact7692 · 2026-07-20T20:11:55+00:00

The thing is I think you need more looks but it is not 100% looks. You need to have nrmal social skills. But teven normal social skills are not a requirement if you have really high looks. The tonality of your opener "Hey do you wanna lay on your back or bend over" is not socially normal. To pull with that you need to looks very good. It is a spectrum of how much you need what. In the end of the day this boils down to that dating will be easier the better you look. I guess this what you can take from it.

s29 · 2026-07-20T19:37:28+00:00

Ironically, it's pretty obvious this would sometimes work if you're good looking enough.

Prudent_Impact7692 · 2026-07-20T20:04:12+00:00

Op you got it. Looks is part of your personality due to that humans apply personality trait based on how you look. Besides that looks as itself is for it visual appeal a part of attraction in as physical attraction.

Discopotatoz · 2026-07-20T21:02:08+00:00

The entire of point of game is to "create attraction" by emulating high status behavior and elevating your interactions with women in a confident way. What you probably mean, is that attraction is not a choice, but it can most certainly be created.

In OLD, you could make the argument that looks are 100% needed, bc that's ultimately what gets you consistent matches and the CHANCE to show your personality/wit/game/etc

WebNew9978 · 2026-07-20T19:49:08+00:00

Pretty much. Although I would say looks isn’t the only thing that matters but it’s the thing that matters the most. If a woman is into you, she’ll purposely be around you in hope you notice them.

Now asking them if they want to lay on their back or bend over will most likely result in that woman losing her attraction towards you. The way you phrased your question makes it seem like you only see her as a sex object. Women don’t like being seen that way.

ajrf92 · 2026-07-20T19:28:05+00:00

Taking into account that women are mostly passive...

ApartmentWorried5692 · 2026-07-20T19:43:59+00:00

Looks aren’t all that matter. I knew a total dweeb in HS that was 5’6”ish and looked chopped. Girls loved him because he had a good personality. Now get ready for this:

He did sports, it gave him leeway to get into social circles.
He wasn’t a gamer, he actually got a life.

Basically, no matter what you look like, if you have no life or social circle, you’ll struggle your ass off unless you go on tinder or to bars and clubs. I’ll admit: if he went to a club, I’d mog his ass into next year and make him look bad but since he had a better social circle than me, he banged wayyy more girls than I did in both HS and College.

Looks matter in bars, clubs, tinder, whatever but preselection and a good social circle will make anyone look better than they are.

Edit: those who doubt me, go on instagram and look at college frats and tell me all those guys are chads. You’d be stunned how normal a lot of them look.

Title	If looks are all that matter
Author	Nervous-Arrogance
Upvotes	0
Comments	65
Date	July 20, 2026 7:18 PM UTC (4 days ago)
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