Will women ever care how men think?

gonzoleroy · 2016-05-04T16:34:47+00:00

There you go trying to solve another problem...can't we just talk about how the problem makes us feel?

/s

mclp- · 2016-05-04T18:48:23+00:00

Women doesn't want you to tell them the problem is someone/something else's fault more than men do (i'm a man btw), most of the time the woman wants you to listen to her problem, it's the same with men.

When my buddy complains to me about a coworker, his boss, a girl, whatever, i listen and basically just add on to his opinions, which in essence is just showing support, if every time he complained to me i would try to solve his problem for him, because from what outliners he's summarized for me i instantly just knew the perfect way to handle it, believe me he'd stop taking my calls (i know i would).

The problem is that when the person complaining to us is a female we're more likely to want to solve their problem for them. it's not helpful, you're not being helpful and you're not being supportive, you're being an asshole, you just don't know it.

don't try to solve people's problems unless they ask you for help/advice.

LiberalPenguin · 2016-05-04T16:31:16+00:00

In short and in general terms; No.

If ever male sexuality becomes worth something, then maybe.

Ericgzg · 2016-05-04T16:42:39+00:00

I think the problem answers itself. The problem being discussed is women want someone to listen to and affirm their feelings about a problem while men just want to solve the problem. So men look at this problem and figured it out: "oh women just want to be listened to!" But no such willingness to look at and solve the problem (ie. "Oh men just want to solve the problem!") comes from the women's side because the nature of the problem itself is that women are not interested in understanding and solving it.

Lil_Mascara · 2016-05-04T17:58:10+00:00

Woman here. I would love to know how men think. You guys confuse the fuck out of me.

boss413 · 2016-05-04T16:18:07+00:00

You might consider posting this in The Red Pill or Men's Rights. This subreddit is about improving skills in seducing women, not whining that you have to improve skills in seduction and women aren't trying hard enough to understand you.

alove416 · 2016-05-04T15:53:01+00:00

Finally someone said it. Now many are going to come on here to refute this citing ways men and women should/do interact, but traditionally speaking, it's spot on. Especially when you consider how saturated the media is about the gender differences.

speaks_in_video · 2016-05-04T16:16:41+00:00

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What is this?

shoganaiyo · 2016-05-04T17:35:46+00:00

First of all, the post that you're regurgitating is a sweeping generalization about male/female relationships, so apply it to your life at your own folly. Women are just as capable of solving problems as men and men can be just as affirmation-seeking as women. I find that entire paradigm is ridiculous because it obscures the simple truth that women are just more inclined to talk about their problems than men.

OH_NO_MR_BILL · 2016-05-04T19:22:45+00:00

When discussing any problem, your best efforts are directed at thing you can directly impact. It's much more effective to change your behavior thereby inviting the others to change than to require them to change first.

Stereoisomer · 2016-05-04T16:23:17+00:00

So I wasn't entirely sure what point you were making and I disagree with one of your premises to the effect of, "the woman will eventually label the man a problem and thus it begets the question, how is he to solve the problem of himself? It's social psychology that man's role in a relationship is protector/provider and that harkens back to a more harrowing time but third-wave feminism has given us an exposé of gender roles - a woman can demand that a man solve problems in a relationship (as is in accordance to a man's natural role in a relationship) but if she is a feminist, she must recognize that she is both placing he and herself in traditional gender roles with him as the protector and she as needing protection. Feminism goes both ways though: insofar as she demands respect in her decision to place the burden on the man, if she truly is a feminist, she must also respect the man's decision of possibly declining her request and abandoning his role as protector should he find his situation unsuitable. Feminism further more has empowered her to not rely on a man to solve all the problems and has granted her the agency to be the problem-solver too if she so desires.

Regardless, if you're in a relationship like you described, she's probably a huge bitch and you should have some self-respect and ditch.

Emxif · 2016-05-04T17:56:11+00:00

You're entire post consists of blanket statements, generalizations, and assumptions.

Really ask yourself, is it more likely that ALL, most, or even a large percentage of women don't solve problems, or is it the case that YOU are not capable of being in a relationship with a mature woman? You, a man who has taken to posting on an internet forum looking to absolve himself of responsibility of a problem, just like you are blaming women of doing.

johannthegoatman · 2016-05-04T18:02:50+00:00

Their fault, our problem

letsgetrandy · 2016-05-04T16:09:07+00:00

Wow, that was some seriously incoherent rambling.

You're obviously frustrated. Thing is, you can't change nature. You're better off accepting it.

IANAPUA_Yet · 2016-05-04T17:17:58+00:00

You seem to be operating on the premise that women aren't interested in problem solving. That's simply not true. Some people (male or female) are better at solving their problems than others, but everybody does it to some degree. They're not retarded; they can and do solve their problems.

They just don't necessarily want your opinion about their problems. That's perfectly reasonable thing. After all, it's generally considered a little rude to offer unsolicited advice. Keeping your opinions on someone's personal life to yourself isn't a "burden to bear"; it's just basic manners.

P.S. They generally do give you credit for having good intentions when you offer unwanted advice. It's just that some people go so far with it that the good intentions are overshadowed by the overall nuisance.

The_1337 · 2016-05-04T16:14:46+00:00

Men and women aren't that different.

The way I see it, it all comes down to listening to someone with some empathy. You wouldn't like it if you were trying to get something off your chest and your girlfriend kept interrupting you.

Women tend to be more open about how they feel. And sometimes, talking about how you feel can make you feel better. Their feelings get entangled with their problems, just like ours do sometimes, and so they talk to you about their problems in hopes that they'll feel better for the simple act of having done so.

And at the end of the day, if you don't like how she deals with strife, you can always head out to the sea to check out how the other fish do.

Women are just as capable of problem solvers as men are. In many cases, women are MORE capable than men simply because most workplace environments are male dominated so they need to do more to gain respect. Especially the attractive ones.

Just pay attention to the person across from you and if you really can't bring yourself to give a shit about what they say, quit wasting your time.

sense_less143 · 2016-05-04T16:45:28+00:00

Women care about men's feelings.

When women marry men, they take their husbands' last names.

When women perform significant portion of unpaid care work, including child minding and taking care of elderly parents.

When a woman consensually commit to having a child with a man, despite knowing that being pregnant is a rough, lengthy, painful ride.

In all the examples above, I guarantee you many women would have thought, 'what if I don't/won't?' then decides against it to make men they love happy.

typtyphus · 2016-05-04T18:39:07+00:00

"It's not about the nail"

Lordoftheintroverts · 2016-05-04T18:39:35+00:00

Sounds to me like our culture has created an egotistic woman archetype. Where the woman doesn't want to be told she's wrong but simply consoled that how she feels about a subject is in some way right even if that's not true at all.

vardarac · 2016-05-04T23:31:38+00:00

What are you talking about?

seldor · 2016-05-05T11:16:38+00:00

Your thinking is really confusing and kind of empty.

Women solve problems all the damn time.
Women also care what men think, and get frustrated when they can't "figure it out".

SirByron · 2016-05-05T19:54:15+00:00

As long as women have a bevy of men following her, she will always look at a man as an Entertainment Package rather than a potential Soulmate.

bowie747 · 2016-05-04T20:57:04+00:00

I've never heard of a woman scouring the web for advice on how to make her man happier. It happens because I see it on Reddit, but it's rare.

greatheape · 2016-05-04T23:15:04+00:00

To begin with, i'm a man.

"Men solve problems, women want someone to tell them the problem is someone/something else's fault ... I get it. This begs the question, do women ever solve their problems?"

My god. Do you have any idea how insanely ignorant and sexist this statement is? 'Do women ever solve their problems?' Fuck you. That is such a terrible thing to say.

And to be honest, i feel sorry for you. You are posting on the Seduction subreddit, which clearly implies you have some interest in attracting or sleeping with women.

With this attitude, and if you ever say this shit in public, you will never fuck anyone again, and you deserve it.

'Does it all just boil down to the fact that women only really need men for an emotional comfort that men have to go against their own nature to provide' - i invite you to read this sentence, of your own words, again. Go on. Read it a few more times. Right. Done?

If you think that is fucking ridiculous- good. Learn. Change. Change. Change.

If you stand by that garbage you just posted- then you are pathetic, and i hope you remain unsatisfied and confused for the rest of your life- and i'm sure you will :)

Have a wonderful day!

skinisblackmetallic · 2016-05-04T17:51:31+00:00

No, women will never care how men think because sperm is vastly more abundant than eggs, so stop crying and get some money.

Title	Will women ever care how men think?
Author	doctordaedalus
Upvotes	24
Comments	55
Date	May 4, 2016 3:17 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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