Anti Feminism Australia's Facebook page, with 44000 readers, is one of several such pages to have been banned by Facebook for "hate speech" or being "potentially unsafe". Even individual subscribers are being suspended or banned.

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That is not what happened, it was exactly the opposite. Anti Feminism Australia posted a message calling for massive abuse of FB's reporting system to try to get another page shut down. FB saw the flood of complaints in their moderation queue (they would have software to detect this sort of thing) and shut the AFA page down.
I suspect that means the message was from a mod not just a user.

I have seen users on a feminist page suggesting multiple reporting, doxxing or other unethical things, and have cautioned against it. But that is just standard internet crap, I don't see feminists being any worse than others.

Clem Ford recently got a ban for repeatedly posting a pic of a traditional Australian Aboriginal ceremony where two old women had nipples showing. She was knowingly breaking the rules and ignoring warnings and shorter bans so they shut her down for 30 days.

FB earlier banned her for reposting offensive PMs she had received. PMs to public figures are not moderated but stuff she posts is. Again she took the ban to make a political point.

So it doesn't seem FB is soft on feminists, or hard on anti feminists. Any platform would punish AFA's behaviour because it is a direct attack on the infrastructure of the business.

Similarly, they had to punish Clem Ford because she was deliberately and very publicly breaking their content standard rules.

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That interpretation is correct in letter, but flawed in spirit. Censorship-the-legal-construct is indeed limited to describing government action. But that isn't the only meaning it can carry (remember: words and their meaning are fluid; they're described by dictionaries, not defined), especially when you look into connotations.

Noting that the entity doing the "censorship" isn't a government isn't a magic card that grants immunity from criticism. The criticism here being that, especially as pretty much a monopoly medium, Facebook greatly harms the ideal of freedom of speech by using its editorial powers by banning things they merely disagree with. (I don't know if that's an accurate description of what they did, I didn't read the article.)

Also, I think one should be careful of drawing such a sharp government / private dividing line. Government is really just an embodiment of a society's norms. A society's norms are more than just what the government does. When we permit private entities to "censor" but not governments, doesn't that imply that our society tolerates the lack of freedom of speech? Is a society egalitarian when it has no laws prohibiting blacks from drinking from public water fountains, but there are no public fountains but only private ones with a fat "WHITES ONLY" sign on them?

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are you implying that censorship led to the holocaust?

Censorship may not have caused the holocaust (alone) but it certainly didn't help to prevent it.

If there were voices in Nazi Germany dissenting to Hitler's agenda, and they were censored, do you think this played any role in the holocaust happening?

There's no point drawing a parallel unless you're trying to say there's a causal affect.

No. That isn't the only purpose of drawing a comparison. Correlation may not imply causation, but it should give you pause to think if there could be. For example, there could be a common cause. Maybe there was something that caused the Nazis to both censor the press and to exterminate Jews. Maybe there's something that causes feminists to both censor dissenting views and to oppress other groups.

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"feminism is hitler"

That's not hate speech. You repeatedly equate opposition to feminism, or even hatred of feminism, with a hatred of women. They are not the same thing -- that is a convenient and dishonest rhetoric that feminists use to justify calling opposition to their monstrous ideas 'hate speech'. But feminism is not your gender. It is not your race. It is only your political ideology, and that is quite simply open to criticism.

People are allowed to criticize you. They are allowed to disagree with feminism. You feminists ARE fascists when you do things like this. You want to criminalize as 'hate speech' any criticism of you. And that is one of the pillars of fascism.

So think long and hard as to why inarticulate people might compare you all to Hitler and the Nazis. You talk about killing all men all of the time. You talk about men like the Nazis talk about Jews -- the Patriarchy is literally the exact same idea as the Elders of Zion, just targeted at a different group. You believe that all art must serve your ideological ends, so you endlessly harass creators as 'unfeminist' who don't bow to your pressure. You think that you and people like you deserve special rights to speak your mind and air your grievances that you don't believe anyone else should have.

All of that... THAT is what fascism is. Your movement is a fascist movement.

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I'll ceceed that point. His comparison of feminism and naziism are terrible examples, just the first thing that came to mind.

To my larger point: do you deny that hate speech is often posted here? I'm not saying it's most of the content, and the community doesn't always support it, but it's still here. This subreddit has a reputation for misogyny, and regardless of whether that was true from the beginning, that reputation is sure to attract misogynist posters.

We've all seen them here, posting ridiculous bullshit. Sometimes they're down voted to obliviom, and great conversation takes place about why what they said is wrong, and other times they get complete support and the community seems to rally around them. Then, it's like when Black Lives Matter is brought up on reddit, the further you go in to those threads, the more racist zeal you find.

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Also, pointing out that a variety of issues that currently disadvantage men were caused by Feminists in some capacity. Like you said, custody laws are one. They were originally done in a way that the father would get the child by default (Something I believe to be a poor system as well). Due to Feminists, this got changed, not by having equal custody, but by making the mother the default instead.

Another example is the laws and procedures surrounding Domestic Violence. The Duleth Model is used by police to determine who the aggressor is, which uses criteria such as size, weight, potential to harm, and a few other. Most of the criteria used however are traits that men tend to be more prone to having due to sexual dimorphism. The model even states that a victim might attack first so that they can protect their children. That's right, it actually says that the person committing the violence is actually the victim. This means that police can turn up, the man have a whopping black eye with the woman untouched, and he will get taken away.

To say that Feminism and the MRM can work together is wishful thinking by fools that think "Feminism is about equality, those man haters aren't real Feminists", when I couldn't give two shits about who is a "real" Feminist. I care about the actions done, and all the actions so far show that Feminism is extremely apathetic to men, if not actively against it in some cases.

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Hm, the draft seems like it could be another example. It doesn't make sense that only men have to get drafted. Did feminism play a part in this?

No, this was actually at the time a logical choice that went on to the point where it no longer makes sense.

It originates from back to the days where a village would number in ~100-200 people. The idea was that if you sent off all your men and only 2 returned, the village would be able to repopulate, but the inverse wouldn't be possible. However, such ideas then went on too long and became more "just the way it is" rather than actually functional.

That being said, the draft itself has been maintained, and supported by Feminists. Look up The White Feather Society. It revolved around the idea that to be [publicly] given a white feather was a sign that you were a coward. Well, this society was formed to give men who weren't conscripted these feathers to shame them into signing up for war during WW1. Many of these members were Suffragettes. A famous story was about how a man who was back from serving was on the way to town to receive one of his medals for his service, but he was in civilian clothes, not military. While riding the tram, he was given one of these feathers, all because he was wearing civilian clothes.

If I remember correctly, you could only vote if you did military service independently of your sex.

Not quite. The way that voting worked was that it was available to anyone who owned land. This was regardless of sex. If you owned land, you owned a vote. See, prior to 1918, men didn't have voting rights. It was linked to owning land. Basically, if you owned a piece of the country, you had a say (vote) in the countries options.

Male voting rights were gained in a trade that you had to sign your life as service to the country, which wasn't (in my opinion) a bad deal. If you wanted to vote on decisions regarding your country, you need to serve said country.

See, this is the funny thing that not a whole lot of people understand. When the Suffragettes were initially fighting for the vote, it was women who were the most against this move, as it would mean that they too would have to sign up for the draft. So many Suffragettes changed their plans and wanted a true free vote, something which men at the time didn't have either (and still don't have).

Fast forward to today, and we have the current imbalance where men still have to sign up for the Selective Service to be allowed to vote, while women do not have that obligation.

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