Why do YOU need feminism?

iwalkfastandslow · 2012-12-03T19:01:41+00:00

I need feminism because I needed to realize the woman who raped me did not actually rape me, and I enjoyed every second of it even though I wasn't aware of it.

losesomeweight · 2012-12-04T02:24:25+00:00

I need feminism because I lost my hamster.

GENIUS

TheAlphaRanger · 2012-12-03T18:26:39+00:00

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lol

mcSibiss · 2012-12-03T22:49:20+00:00

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ailingblackops · 2012-12-03T18:30:32+00:00

The sarcasm is strong with this one...

SCCROW · 2012-12-03T23:45:09+00:00

I need feminism, so I have something to make fun of.

SilencingNarrative · 2012-12-04T00:14:42+00:00

I need feminism so that the fact that men work 55 out of every 100 hours earns them snarky condemnation instead of sincere thanks.

ImFromDateline · 2012-12-03T18:59:09+00:00

Took me a couple but I got it :D You can tell there are some really deep background stories in a couple of those posts. OP needs to get to the top of mensrights

TracyMorganFreeman · 2012-12-04T04:38:15+00:00

I need Pilotism because my cabin crew teaches 'how to find the nearest exit' and 'doubles as a flotation device' instead of 'DON'T CRASH'.

Man I love analogies that dismantle platitudinal rhetoric.

sha742 · 2012-12-04T09:03:35+00:00

Hey guys, just stopping in.

There are a few misconceptions (or at least so I see) about feminism and what is a feminist ideal, so let me spread the gospel a bit here.

Feminism does not support women violence. In fact, what makes it seemingly permissible in society is the stereotype that women are weak and therefore their actions carry less weight. Feminists do not like this stereotype and actually advocate against it. When we dislike domestic abuse, we generally do so not from a feminist stand-point, but a humanitarian one.
Affirmative Action by definition is sexist. And yet we support it. How can we be so hypocritical? Because in the workforce there is an employment imbalance and an income disparity. And this can be accredited to many things from old guards to social stigmas. But why then is it the Federal Government's responsibility to force diversity? Simply put, it's a 'macro-movement.' It is instituted with the hope that if some degree of preference is given toward women in a workforce that is historically dominated toward men, over time the values will become more equal and the preference (Affirmative Action) can be removed. An example would be California's UC system, which at one point gave preference to those of Asian descent, which had very poor representation. Now they are no longer given preference, but the amount of Asians applying for college has stayed equal.
Prison rape is bad! Prison rape statistics make it clear that men as a collective are definitely victims as well. However, that's largely a prison problem and not entirely societal. This does not de-legitimize the issue, but it does mean that there is another can of worms to look at. You have people who believe that rape is comeuppance for prisoners, which us feminists are very against since rape should never be looked at as a deserved punishment.
We don't see homosexuality as a threat to feminism. I.. admit I don't have a full response to this because I haven't heard this argument before. Feminists don't like being seen only as attractive or unattractive, so I thought it would be inherently obvious that homosexuality isn't a threat.
Feminism doesn't want you to stop holding doors open. Feminism does not deny that getting a free dinner isn't nice time-to-time. At the same time, the latter is reflective of the idea that at one point women couldn't pay for their own. As that's not much an issue with prominence in the workforce, most feminists support going Dutch.

There's a lot of other stuff, but I bet you folks wouldn't like if I ate up any of your time with low-hanging fruit, so just a quick FAQ before I bid you all farewell.

Why don't you call yourself an eagle librarian?

Because to me feminism encompasses equality; many male problems are side-effects to patriarchy. Men are not allowed to express their feelings in the same way, because women are seen as the emotional ones. In domestic abuse cases, men occasionally get short-strawed because women are seen as weak.

Are all men potential rapists?

No, and feminists don't believe they should be treated as such, which is why we think telling women to carry pepper-spray, dress modestly, and avoid strangers is awfully sexist, to everybody. However, most people who commit sexual assault are men, most rapes are committed by friends or family, and there are forms of rape that exist without gun point. There will obviously be women (and men) who fear assault to the point of what could be argued as over-caution, but that's simply a response to an unfortunate status quo we're working to change.

Well you sound reasonable enough, but what about other feminists?

Well, there's kind of a shit-ton of us. I was raised in California and lived from San Diego to L.A to SLO and to Seattle. Now I currently go to college in the north west. The movements vary from place to place because different societies have progressed at different levels. Because of this, you may find someone who still burns bras or someone who believes that only negative sexism should be eliminated.

However, what unifies us, even if we all have different definitions for the words is that there is an 'aspiration for equality for women.'

Don't discount feminism as a radical or removed movement.

2012-12-03T21:44:04+00:00

because it's entertaining to watch SRS flip the fuck out

2012-12-04T15:25:43+00:00

I need feminism... Because I lost my hamster.

gkx · 2012-12-03T23:31:26+00:00

To start, I like this post.

I just wish we didn't always pit masculism and feminism against each other. Can't these have just started off as "I need masculism because" and not been overly negative? I understand that oftentimes feminism can seem exclusionary with masculism, but it's really dumb to attack each other like this.

Puck_marin · 2012-12-03T23:21:36+00:00

My favorite one isn't up there: http://i.imgur.com/bhDvB.jpg

losesomeweight · 2012-12-04T02:33:10+00:00

that old man with the red cap is the best imo

Creeper60 · 2012-12-03T21:44:24+00:00

I need feminism because I was taught that it was wrong for me as a male to cry and now cannot.

Snowley · 2012-12-03T19:59:13+00:00

Feminists are like strippers, fun to mess with but you never date them. As soon as she triggers my Feminist radar I wish her good day and bolt for the nearest exit. That's why I need feminism.

SilencingNarrative · 2012-12-04T00:17:27+00:00

I need feminism so that we can stop using partisan anecdotes to drive public policy instead of honest research cough lily ledbetter cough.

PokemonAttack · 2012-12-03T19:48:18+00:00

Females have to lay PokeEggs!

bluefootedpig · 2012-12-03T22:51:15+00:00

If we are doing satire, shouldn't it be "why do you need patriarchy?"

I need patriarchy because women shouldn't be sentenced to jail for the same time as a man for the same crime.

SamuelRAnger · 2012-12-04T11:07:21+00:00

I need feminism because women should expect the same punishment for the same crimes and more gender equality when it comes to child custudy.

bettaproger · 2012-12-04T14:13:33+00:00

the phycological abuse guy realy hits home for me. With that sort of thing you realize it last but once you've solved the problem(removed the person) nobody will ever beleive it except the people that witnessed it first hand.

tn5421 · 2012-12-04T23:00:50+00:00

I need feminism like Ezreal from League of Legends needs a map.

buster2209 · 2012-12-03T21:14:05+00:00

I need feminism because without it I would never have known about Briffault's law. Oh, and that I am potential rapist because I was born with a penis...

imsittingdown · 2012-12-04T16:56:46+00:00

Most of these make no sense whatsoever. Some of these people are living in a complete fantasy world.

SilencingNarrative · 2012-12-03T23:43:04+00:00

I need feminism so that the truth that men are 50% of rape victims, and women are 40% of rapists, won't appear in the executive summary of the CDC's 2010 NISVS survey, and instead be buried in the data tables and bullshit definition of rape that excludes "made to penetrate".

I need feminism so that we can all pretend rape is something men to do women and not vice versa.

knifehandler · 2012-12-03T22:19:05+00:00

I need feminism because when i cheat on a girl i get shamed, when a girl cheats on a male though, she gets praised by the dicks who will be applauding her vagina.

Bobsutan · 2012-12-04T00:33:46+00:00

I need feminism so society will hold women responsible for their actions and have the same expectations and accountability as men.

Collective82 · 2012-12-04T04:14:12+00:00

I need feminism so I can get a lobotomy and stop thinking for myself.

TheOnlyKarsh · 2012-12-03T22:21:14+00:00

I need feminism to remind me why I should feel guilty for spending an hour immediately thinking of a personal example of and agreeing with nearly every post on that page I read.

Karsh

DerpaNerb · 2012-12-03T23:37:27+00:00

"I need feminism like I need a hole in my head".

Oh god, that statement combined with that picture was just fucking gold.

youlleatitandlikeit · 2012-12-03T19:31:50+00:00

Sorry, but the "I need feminism because everything I have to say needs to be disregarded because I have a penis" is ridiculous. Talk to almost any woman and they will confirm that their statements are frequently ignored and discounted because they are female. It happens constantly. I've maybe had my opinions discounted because I was male a handful of times in my entire life, and then only because I was involved in discussions that dealt with female issues (e.g., giving birth). My wife, ex-girlfriends, female friends, sister, mom, etc. all have stories of times that men have completely ignored or belittled what they were saying because they were female.

strawbhurry · 2012-12-03T22:40:04+00:00

Hold on, i dont get the one with the army guy who mentions GirlWritesWhat. I thought you guys liked her? or am i wrong?

EvilPundit · 2012-12-03T21:05:38+00:00

So, you have issue with affirmative action, because of your own failed life.

I saw a lot of pain, a lot of problems, a lot off issues, and a lot of hatred. What I didn't see was a solution to those problems, help for those issues, or love.

You can claim that being anti-feminist isn't anti-women, but it's clear to anyone with a brain that the to seem to go hand in hand. Yeah, you might have been passed on promotion because a company needed to fill it's quota of black/women/hispanic, or maybe a woman dumped you and sued you for child support, or maybe you were accused of being a pedophile in a public park, but that doesn't mean that the world isn't unfair against certain groups, it doesn't mean it's easy to be a woman/minority, it doesn't mean that the world is biased against men, and it sure doesn't mean that defining yourself as anti-feminist is going to solve anything.

I need feminism because I am sick and tired of the world saying that I can't be a good parent becuase I am a man. I need feminism because I am sick and tired of gender roles, and feminist is against that. I need feminism because as a man, I get depression and I need help too. I need feminism because gender roles are the root to almost all the problems I have in my life.

I don't need you, or your self victimization, or your hatred of women, because it doesn't help me at all.

taktubu · 2012-12-03T20:52:35+00:00

Did this start off seriously? If so, ouch.

EDIT: Never mind, I'm illiterate.

iongantas · 2012-12-04T01:14:15+00:00

I particularly the one where it says because [long list of feminist buzz words]

AryoBarzan · 2012-12-04T03:16:07+00:00

This is awesome stuff :)

Pecanpig · 2012-12-04T14:51:19+00:00

I need feminism because I feel it is necessary to have one radical group of nutjobs to poke fun of, it's healthy.

Bukkake_Monster · 2012-12-04T01:45:45+00:00

I need feminism because they keep making up those funny words which, according to them, make them sound smart.

2012-12-04T07:31:05+00:00

I need feminism because I have obligations and women have rights and choices.

Funcuz · 2012-12-04T03:41:25+00:00

I just need feminism to go away .

Title	Why do YOU need feminism?
Author	dinky_hawker
Upvotes	141
Comments	112
Date	December 3, 2012 5:53 PM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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