She's says "he's everything I didn't know I wanted" and built her self confidence. Unfortunately in the course of that she lost her tingles, and now thinks that she can do better. She feels really bad though.

SenorAsssHat · 2021-09-26T15:47:32+00:00

As someone who has been in a relationship for almost 10 years now. Those tingles go away, but it develops into pure unchanging love. This person is horrible.

Typo-MAGAshiv · 2021-09-26T15:48:22+00:00

he kept saying things like "I can't believe I got you" [and] "you're out of my league"

If you treat her like a celebrity, she'll come to see you as and treat you like a fan.

If you treat her like a princess, she'll eventually view you as and treat you like a peasant.

Deep down, they hate being elevated. They want a man they can look up to. They say they want to be treated the way this dude is treating her, but look at the results.

If she breaks it off with him, she'll most likely spend the rest of her twenties getting used and discarded.

Relevant additional reading: "Please Break Up With Me!" by Rollo Tomassi.

upsidedownbackwards · 2021-09-26T15:49:35+00:00

Jesus Christ I hate her. She was so close but instead she's going to choose the path of cats and wine. She seriously cannot look into the future for even a moment and see that's where her path leads her. If she's had a boyfriend for 2.5 years, she's that much older and closer to the wall than when they started. She thinks her value has only gone up because her self esteem is higher. She thinks she won't fall the fuck apart again when she ends up pumped and dumped by the tier of men that aren't going to settle down with her. She'd rather she keeps being washed downstream through the rapids than have a good guy save her. She wants to jump right back in.

Typo-MAGAshiv · 2021-09-26T16:07:13+00:00

I dated this really beautiful exchange student in college for a short while. Still one of if not the hottest girl I ever was with. She had a best friend around her age. That guy was her rock. Really looked out for her and tried to get her to live a more healthy life.

I on the other hand had commitment issues like nobody's business. Seriously. I was a damn sociopath. Once told her that I couldn't facetime because I was at another girls house gettin busy while she was telling me how much she missed me. I was also a few joints and a sad song away from jumping off the next bridge.

Long story short: She got me over to her country on her dime and picked up all the tabs, hotel, food, drinks, you name it. Dressed up every day (and night) according to my preferences that she carefully evaluated beforehand.

She berated him once in front of everyone once for "getting too close for comfort". His crime? He pulled her lifeless body up into her room and prevented her from choking on her own vomit. On her 21st birthday. She still got mad at him for touching him at all.

That girl was an eye-opener. I'd rather be the mess that gets treated like royalty for treating her poorly, than the guy treating her right and being her dog.

comptejete · 2021-09-26T17:40:50+00:00

'I want to cheat on my boyfriend with someone I actually want to fuck, but I don't want to lose his support. Please validate my desires.'

NakedlyStripped · 2021-09-26T15:49:46+00:00

By saying she’s in her early 20s and it rationalizing it in this perspective means she wants to ride the carousel. As she knows she could do better.

I hope he finds the thread and realizes she feels this way and drops her for this. Close the door and don’t let her boomerang back in a couple months or years down the road.

AngryCockOfJustice · 2021-09-26T16:11:18+00:00

After lurking that particular sub, I'd say every second chick has some emotional/"muh feels" issues and every 3rd guy has been indoctrinated into being a simpleton.

This chick in topic is going to open her legs and gladly welcome another man's part within a few months with "he felt me special" pretext. Alas, her oblivious dude is in for a life of cuckoldry and sloppy seconds.

Imagine if a guy wrote something, "There are some physical attributes of hers I am not crazy about. Her tits are small, her ass reminds me of flat earth theory, her belly has some hints of future obesity, her vagina reeks of Chinese wet market, her chin has twin sister" and behold women of that sub would be banging keyboard foaming and fuming.

Captainbuttman · 2021-09-26T16:08:09+00:00

he filled that hole when I needed it.

lol

Women always want MORE.

NakedlyStripped · 2021-09-26T16:32:12+00:00

That whole message. That right there sums up dating in this generation. Doesn't matter how awesome of a dude you are. These girls are always on the lookout for the next best thing and a rekindling of "the tingles".

skint_back · 2021-09-26T16:50:40+00:00

Breaking News: Hypergamous Women Discovers She Desires Fried Ice, and Begins Her Lifelong Journey Into Spinsterhood

Gentlemen, this is why you never put women on a pedestal. This is why you must perfect your dread game. This is why you never put all your eggs into one basket.

Poor guy is going to be blindsided when she breaks it off… “But I did everything perfect” he’ll think to himself. Yes you did, brother, but you still cannot change the female biological imperative, which always defaults to hypergamy (in the absence of societal constraints).

Men don’t Red Pill men; women Red Pill men. We’ll be welcoming yet another into our ranks soon enough.

Marko_From_Tropoja_ · 2021-09-26T17:33:33+00:00

I can almost guarantee she is not as attractive as she thinks she is.

lqxpl · 2021-09-26T16:08:49+00:00

She used him. It is that simple.

AFthrowaway3000 · 2021-09-26T16:51:04+00:00

Early 20s = she doesn't feel the tingles, indeed.

Once she's past 30 and hits The Wall though, he is EXACTLY the type of guy she will then claim to want.

All these women that do this... I swear, god damn they are stupid!

InevitableOwl1 · 2021-09-26T17:17:50+00:00

My last two relationships involved me rebuilding the self-esteem of women who were broken after being cheated on by their LTR partners (5-6 years). Both were close to 30 when it happened and so had their life aims shattered. They were staring down the horror of being single and unmarried at 30

In both cases it seems I was only ever in the equation to pick them back up from their low point and give them a platform to monkey branch from

So this hits home hard (not least because I very much have a high hairline and thinning hair as well - but it wasn't as bad then!)

I didn't break away from the blue pill route after either. I found the concepts during the lockdowns with more time on my hands. And when I viewed what those women did through the lens of what i was listening to and reading it all clicked, horribly, into place

FUJB46 · 2021-09-26T16:39:42+00:00

Place your bets now that she will offer him the “wonderful consolation prize of friendship” after she cheats on him. You know how I know? Because she said they started as friends. She will manipulate that “why can’t we go back to being friends?”.

empatheticapathetic · 2021-09-26T16:21:44+00:00

Mid level and lower girls need constant validation from attractive guys. Surprisingly, the hotter the girl, the less she seeks this constant validation from specifically hot guys.

Wildhouse83 · 2021-09-26T16:37:51+00:00

Sounds like a movie called: Alpha Widow begins

Which is basically a remake of this one: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2263518/I-left-love-life-I-thought-I-better-Now-Im-childless-42.html

anykah_badu · 2021-09-26T21:20:44+00:00

There were posts that read exactly like this before:

"oh gosh he's sooooo perfect"

"he has that ONE vital flaw"

"There's NO hope"

"I feel soooooo bad for not being able to overlook it, oh woe is me"

"Now give me attention for my self-created problem teehee"

Here's the deal: All these statements are lies. If you look closely, it's all so exaggerated isn't it, completely over the top, including that "holding his face in my hands but he ugly" scene. How fucking dramatic

100% the dude is a normal decent cute enough guy that unfortunately met a narcissist who PRETENDS the whole time she loves and was capable of love which she is not.

Instead, she is busy devaluing him and creating fake problems. She would do this with everyone, doesn't matter what he looks like

Tbh I laughed reading this, her peddling her narcissistic bullshit sounding EXACTLY like any other narcissistic piece of shit out there, but I also feel tremendously sorry for this dude

That is rough. 2 years... unfortunately the only bit of fact in there! 2 years wasted on a toxic mentally ill person that will never get better

Imo how to recognize and avoid narcissists early on should be on top of everyone's handbooks

A_Walt_Whitman · 2021-09-26T17:30:30+00:00

She's eventually going to cheat on/leave him. He'll have his heart broken but recover on move on. She'll end up being used and abused/a single mom/with cats and boxed wine. Fast forward a dozen years and she'll be saying WAATGM, not realizing that she threw away the best thing that's ever happened to her.

PopularBug5 · 2021-09-26T16:15:53+00:00

Golden rule: If a woman says "He is ..." she is not attracted to the man.

But if a woman starts her sentence with "I feel ..." She likes, loves, WANTS the man.

Just read the OP. She straight out starts her essay with "I'm not physically attracted" describing her feels rather than describing the man.

polishknightusa · 2021-09-27T00:18:24+00:00

Feminism, which originated back during the women's voting suffrage movement, was about one thing for women: Girls just wanna have fun. The notion that life HAS to be fun for women. They are taught that "real men", namely CEO's, have fun jobs and hot looking mistresses so all women are entitled to something like that for themselves.

In Real Life, the majority of people don't have fun lives, but find ways to make it livable. Heck, "keeping up with the Joneses" is almost guaranteed to result in abject misery while some poor guy in a shack reading a book and drinking a beer is probably one of the happiest people on Earth.

So her spouse isn't her ideal of attractiveness. So what? Most men have to settle for women they don't find ideally attractive either. Since men approach women, usually an attractive woman first, and get rejected, they accept that they don't get their 'first pick' in mates. So men learn how to find a way to "get off" on a less than ideal woman. This continues as the woman ages. Even grandmas get action as grandpa would no doubt prefer the teenage coffee server.

And what's neat about stoicism, as I said above, is you find that you didn't need ideal "soul mate" "supermodel" experience to be happy anyway. Heck, there's a beauty in humility. In gardening rather than getting vegetables delivered. In cooking a delicious, simple meal for yourself instead of ordering at a restaurant.

If she had been forced into an arranged marriage with the guy, she'd be the happiest person on Earth and having multiple orgasms an evening.

PopRevolutionary1475 · 2021-09-26T18:50:00+00:00

Ain't that a bitch as the saying.

The man treats her like gold, but that's not enough for her.

5 years down the road...

😭😭😭😭😭baby please...take me back.

MynameMB · 2021-09-26T15:50:26+00:00

(and kept saying things like "I can't believe I got you" "You're out of me league")

Icangetitexceptme · 2021-09-26T16:07:09+00:00

Bro dodged a bullet.

Grand_Influence_177 · 2021-09-27T03:09:27+00:00

Women have this build-in problem of viewing kindness as weakness. In their twisted world they associate a kind man with powerlessness. Only a pathetic weak man are kind to other as he has no other options. This somehow clicks with their innate hypergamy as women treat the bottom 80℅ with disdain and outright hate.

Every time a woman complain about how easy it is for men, it means the top 20℅. Feminism is all about giving women the advantages these top 20% have without the hard work that these men do.

Now this might be confusing for men, but remember in the female brain, humanity only exist in a Post Apocalyptic Fallout/Last of Us/ insert your favorite post apocalyptic video game kinda a world. Their nature isn't meant for the civilized world. In this world, powerful alpha males are always assholes, dictator, murderers. Kindness will get you killed in this world. This is the reason why even rich men sometimes struggle to attract women, while the local drug dealers gets laid like a rockstar.

This is female nature in a nutshell.

2021-09-26T22:44:44+00:00

But...but...but... guys are so superficial! They only care about how a woman looks!

...or so I've heard.

simms419 · 2021-09-26T17:22:19+00:00

Tale as old as time.

Just kidding. This is modern day bullshit that is ruining society

peguy2000 · 2021-09-26T19:42:28+00:00

Reason not to date #200771

biccat · 2021-09-27T00:13:32+00:00

I can solve all of this chick’s problems with one simple trick:

Turn off the lights when you fuck.

Flashy_Glove6208 · 2021-09-27T02:14:08+00:00

Growing up I didn't have the highest self esteem = I hooked up with many to seek external validation.

She's already psychologically damaged and unable to form LTR pairbond.

She'll be riding the CC and honeymoon tingles until she hits the wall.

I feel sorry for the guy if she stays with him. She will cheat or monkey branch sooner or later.

2021-09-26T16:38:20+00:00

Poor bastard. If she breaks it off he's gonna simp so hard.

Marfi09 · 2021-09-26T21:14:17+00:00

If it's a hoe, then it's gotta go.

Hunk_Maggot · 2021-09-26T22:22:30+00:00

She is in the verge of "my tingles vs my future" , where she would pick "my tingles" because to her is easy to beg for forgiveness.

I just hope that this man can see how lucky are ladies to be with him and not the opposite.

Harry_Teak · 2021-09-26T23:12:06+00:00

If you're on the Internet looking for someone to tell you it's OK to leave a relationship you've already checked out and it's all over but the crying. Hopefully this poor bastard will put his life back together while you're enjoying an endless procession of more attractive gentlemen while moaning over the fact that none of them will commit like he would.

What we have here is a rare Beta Widow in the making.

manjeete · 2021-09-27T06:42:27+00:00

I can bet my money that she already has made an OLD profile and basking on the validation of all the matches she is getting from good looking dudes. She thinks she can get one of those guys and do much better than her current "boyfriend".

He provided her validation, love and companionship when she was loneliest in her life. Now she is not so this guy cannot provide her the same things which let her accept him in her life. Now content, she started thinking about the good looking guys and wonder what they can provide to her.

This story is as old as time. Leave a good and loving relationship on the hopes of getting something better. Regret it down the line and become bitter.

Atleast she got the shallow part right about herself.

vtec__ · 2021-09-27T00:22:27+00:00

she'll be sorry in 10 years after shes done getting pumped and dumped by chad/tyrone/etc

she should break it off with him though if she isnt into him sexually. its a big part of any healthy relationship

DashinDasherFoo · 2021-09-26T17:12:33+00:00

Lol as a male I lose interest after my post nutt clarities. Like your not into finance and browsing Reddit all day reading through watches circle jerk, you can leave lol

mscordia · 2021-09-26T17:32:44+00:00

This is just fucked up.

Darkwalker787 · 2021-09-26T17:41:04+00:00

She loves him, but she's not in love with him. There's a difference.

z1joshmon · 2021-09-26T18:29:44+00:00

Shr is making the biggest mistake of her life and really better reconsider. This guy honestly deserves so much better...

DontBegDontBorrow · 2021-09-26T22:42:05+00:00

The seven year itch

InternetUser4752 · 2021-09-27T05:03:13+00:00

Leading someone on you don’t find physically attractive for 2 whole years wtf

2021-09-27T13:50:55+00:00

Here’s a recap:

This guy is perfect for me and treats me incredibly well, but this other guy makes me a little bit more wet so I am going to break it off.

Sad state of things right now.

tryingmybestatm · 2021-09-26T16:05:45+00:00

ok so how should a guy be in a relationship to avoid this, is it a balance between complimenting her and then not giving her the validation or what is it?

Thatshygurl · 2021-09-26T22:06:56+00:00

This post actually reminded me of the guy I last dated, he told me too I “was so out of his league” and he’d say how “couldn’t believe he got a girl like me”. I didn’t think greatly of it, kind of figured he was being flattering.

Also I remember thinking he was kind of goofy looking when we first met, not unattractive though. However the longer we dated I started to become attracted to his flaws, not despite them. Find it disgusting how she lists out his flaws the way she does.

pointer_ · 2021-09-27T04:35:33+00:00

I am in tears. This is a Classic.

Post of the year.

Outside-Primary3302 · 2021-09-27T10:27:04+00:00

Single mom in the making. And she'd blame men for it.

braucifur · 2021-09-27T17:50:09+00:00

Normally these kind of women talk about "needing their space" and travel.

Travel & finding herself, are code words for going to Europe and taking skiing lessons or staying in hostels/getting some strange.

Now travel could mean innocent travel, but not at her age and certainly not someone who doesn't have a 9-5 job with a defined number of vacation days. Nope.

Overseas travel invariably means FOMO from the CC. They love it because their notch count doesn't go up if noone finds out about it, and thousands of miles away few will. Never any social media pics of these guys they're hooking up with either, for some reason. It's always them alone or with a girlfriend or two. Absolutely no sex happens whatsoever from their social media posts but not just that then also no innocent pics of their favorite ski instructor or tour guide or hostel made either. I wonder why that is? ;)

Women that love to travel in their 20s and gush about it aren't fooling anyone. If she travels a lot with her favorite girlfriend or two you can guarantee Paco is having the time of his life with them. And if Paco is of a lower social status that doesn't matter to them: what happens traveling stays traveling. She'll resume the Peggy Prude routine upon landing at the domestic airport with a nice satisfied smile and lots of social media pics of her and her friends at all the tourist hot spots. But...no pics of Paco.

NoonTimeHoopsMVP · 2021-09-28T19:00:24+00:00

He made the classic error of worshipping her but how sad is it when words of praise actually kill her desire.

I hope the dude wakes up and dumps her. How depressing to give someone your all and they don't want it.

ChaosConfronter · 2021-09-26T16:15:04+00:00

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gfgdhj5784yu8 · 2021-09-28T05:18:05+00:00

It is a shame being an asshole is what keeps most women interested and involved in a man.

Lucky for me it comes naturally.

Ornperius · 2021-09-29T00:37:03+00:00

I’m not trying to sound like a jerk…. But this girl is an asshole if she doesn’t grow the hell up and stay with him. If she loves him, she will get over this shallow crap. Attraction is temporary, Love is forever.

soytuamigo · 2021-09-30T04:32:14+00:00

Honestly, leaving him now it's the best thing she could do for him. I pity dated a girl once and that was the last time I ever did it because you feel awful the entire time. It's amazing the kind of shit women put up with when you are the one who's not that into them.

Saianna · 2021-09-27T12:56:27+00:00

DAMN, If not the mention about her age at the end I swear, this ould have been text about my friend. Fits so damn well.

Unless.. the age she mentioned is a lie.... Oh boy.

SnakeEyeskid · 2021-10-02T08:20:53+00:00

He filled that hole when she needed it. Aka when she was having tingle withdrawal cuz Chad was with another plate and mby she even fell off, this good man made "a" (probably quite a few) moves and, filled her hole...

She then knew he was attractive as a good provider. But she wasn't attracted to him, he was an attractive provider and someone she knows would be a good fit for her long term goals...

But rational thinking is a side effect from testosterone treatment in women who are barren. Most don't like it since they get more rational and begin understanding how irrational they were and that reality is, hard...

This was taught by a professor of mine, Head of the gyn at the hospital I studied at, in preclin med. The lecture was about sex hormones in general but that part is just, ye fascinating since it was self reported that the women suffered from becoming more rational so they had too label it a negative side effect...

Just something worth thinking about. He reasoned that it was some traumatic shit to suddenly view the world way different. Most guys probably realized, hey they rly are crazy...

Fuzi0z · 2021-10-02T17:09:52+00:00

I get it he is ugly but why settle why waste this poor good man time and destroy his soul? Women are so selfish and mean. They will use you and discard you. Its sad.

2021-10-08T06:34:24+00:00

“He made me realise I’m pretty” get fucked, some bloke helped her in a dark place now she’s got some “self confidence” and can do better. Do him a favour and piss off

Ill-Tea26 · 2021-10-16T06:55:17+00:00

Holy shit I thought this was my ex wife writing this until she described him.

Typo-MAGAshiv · 2021-09-27T17:58:59+00:00

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Canute87 · 2021-09-28T20:59:47+00:00

The guy needs to stop with that pedestal mentality. That's why she's losing attraction for him.

waveformcollapse · 2021-10-02T01:44:09+00:00

she should tell him how she feels to his face so he can find a real woman.

GiantOfTheSouthSky · 2021-10-13T14:43:16+00:00

Poor dude. If only he knew...

vanillapopsicle · 2021-10-29T08:01:07+00:00

A 5 that’s been with 10’s can never go down to a 5. NEVER.

jadedlonewolf89 · 2021-11-04T11:38:53+00:00

Sounds like a story ripe for the song Whiskey Lullaby.

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