Is hitting the wall even a thing?

Inareskai · 2021-09-21T20:10:00+00:00

No, it's not really a thing.

EntertainmentNeat592 · 2021-09-21T20:16:00+00:00

Oh yah it’s 100% a projection of their own insecurities. This is why red pillars like to insist men look better with wrinkles and so men age better. It’s entirely a coping mechanism and has no basis in reality.

Everyone has some issues in dating depending later in life on their circumstances and that does reduces your pool of dating cause older people are typically attached. This is not a wall, it’s just a situations both men and women faces.

cunningcaring · 2021-09-21T21:48:46+00:00

There is no wall.

tiposk · 2021-09-21T22:31:56+00:00

The idea is that a woman who reaches her thirties stops getting as much attention from men. What TRP fails to understand is that aging is gradual, it affects BOTH sexes and that women never had an inordinate amount of attention in the first place unless they were attractive.

vcreativ · 2021-09-21T21:53:47+00:00

"The (RP) wall" seem mostly to refer to a point in time where women become unattractive. They're pretty binary about the whole concept, so I would say no, that's not a thing. At least not in the way they describe it.

What is true, and it's not that this doesn't affect men, is that your choices begin to accumulate some time after around 25, certainly by 30. That is, if you eat badly, drink a lot, and party all the time this will begin to show. On the other hand, if you don't, this will too. Basically, life becomes quite real all of a sudden.

It's difficult to see unless you're above this age, because people don't run around with their years written on their foreheads. Some people age really badly, and if you dig a little deeper it's usually due to lack of nutrition, lack of exercise, lack of sleep, juxtaposed to plenty of alcohol and smoking.

From what I understand as age increases it becomes more of a statistical gamble for certain types of birth defects, but not necessarily across the board (see here https://www.webmd.com/baby/news/20140203/babies-born-to-moms-over-35-may-have-lower-risk-for-certain-birth-defects#1).

BrokenArrows95 · 2021-09-21T22:51:30+00:00

No. Why would turning 30 make you suddenly appear older than 29?

Aging is a gradual process and different for everyone. Some people in their 30s look younger than people in their 20s.

zenneither · 2021-09-21T23:58:29+00:00

My mom got our youngest sibling in her 40s. He is the most smartest, prettiest and the healthiest family member.

BiWomanHealing · 2021-09-22T02:32:28+00:00

Melvin-Melon · 2021-09-22T06:33:54+00:00

Aging happens to everyone surprisingly to redpillers even men. I don’t know why they also act like it’s a gotcha to be like “women get older and I FIND THEM LESS FUCKABLE”. It’s bold of them to assume anyone cares about being fuckable to them.

madame_imane · 2021-09-22T08:42:06+00:00

wow red pill really is full of shit

I_like_the_word_MUFF · 2021-09-22T13:52:43+00:00

Why does nobody discuss how men's penises stop working with age. Nearly universally, men's physical ability to actually have sex decreases exponentially from about 30 years onward. Then there's prostate issues and some prostate surgeries actually end men's ability to get an erection.

Nobody wonders why male impotency pills are some of the most prescribed medications in the world? It's not all swingers and sex parties.

_DoIt4Johnny_ · 2021-09-22T21:06:42+00:00

Some people do or don’t age well regardless of sex. What red pill has done is convince 35 year old Home Depot cashiers that still live with their parents that they have more SMV than a 40 year old that was a 10 in her 20s. I once saw a video they made on Charlize Theron, and talk about delusion, not one person in that comments section has more “SMV” than she does, not in their wildest dreams.

jaredhasarrived · 2021-09-21T21:21:30+00:00

it's not
red pill sucks balls

the_C_Atheist · 2021-09-22T01:09:29+00:00

Actually women never stop getting attention even in their 40s. I know for a fact that if these middle aged red pill guys were to get on a dating app, they would get significantly fewer matches than these so-called 'angry post wall women'. For the record I've never met a woman over 30 who's angry about being single.

Carloverguy20 · 2021-09-22T04:04:14+00:00

The wall is just a cope that redpillers love to propagate and spew, they are just projecting hard.

Brilliant_Usual_743 · 2021-09-21T21:31:29+00:00

It's a thing in the sense that the quality of our eggs decreases exponentially with time after 30 or so, as well as fertility itself. As to youthfulness, it's a multifaceted discussion. If we are deeply invested in self-care, we can delay the signs of time on our bodies, sure, and remain youthful for as long as possible, but when it comes to genuine beauty, the factors are different. I constantly meet women over 30-40-50 y.o. who are just jawdropping in their radiance, which is something I and a lot of women ultimately strive for and makes us so much more attractive beyond the superficial layer. Some women touch you with their light, care, understanding and wisdom and the wrinkles that come with that are the unfortunate given of Eve eating the dang apple and consequently having rejected eternal life. Immortality is a fantasy in the physical world and guys who can't stop talking about the wall as the female apocalypse have not managed to see our worth beyond flesh yet.

Five_Decades · 2021-09-22T01:41:59+00:00

it's not a hard wall, more of a steady decline in fertility which causes a decline in male attention. the odds of a natural pregnancy at age 44 are 1/5 of what they are at 22.

men still pay attention to older women, but it won't be the same at 51 vs 21

https://www.qfg.com.au/trying-to-conceive/female-fertility/age-fertility

the issue with trp is that when looking for a partner, people have a wide range of things they look for and age and fertility are just two. many men prefer an emotionally stable, caring, funny women who is 42 vs a mean, selfish, angry woman who is 22. attraction is multi faceted.

trp reduces women to just their fertility and creates an artificial wall when it's more of a decline in fertility that causes a decline in male sexual attraction (especially from random)

The9thElement · 2021-09-21T23:49:19+00:00

There is a time in both men and womens lives where they become significantly less attractive. It is a bit earlier for women but both experience it. Redpillers make it seem like once women hit this phase they are destined to die alone, that no one can ever love you again, and they have lost all their value. However this is false. You can find love at any age. So the “wall” is real yes but is that bad? NO!

softnmushy · 2021-09-21T20:42:23+00:00

It sounds like you're talking about pregnancy health?

Pregnancy risks do start rapidly rising in your late 30's. And getting pregnant in your 40's is very high risk. This is easily accessible on Google if you want to look into it.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/getting-pregnant/in-depth/pregnancy/art-20045756

Booda069 · 2021-09-21T21:23:15+00:00

Yup yup it's called getting older.

But depending on how you take care of yourself and your genetics 🧬 you will age more gracefully than the next person.

5secrule · 2021-09-22T04:26:24+00:00

The fact you feel the need to voice yourself in an online setting proves you in-fact are “not fine” 🤣🤣🤣

BlueSkiesOverLondon · 2021-09-22T19:17:13+00:00

In terms of fertility, most women’s fertility only starts to seriously decline at 34-35+. My mom had me at 30 and my sister at 33, and that’s perfectly normal. Obviously since menopause exists there is a hard stop to women’s fertility eventually, but the truth is that fertility is very individual, so it’s hard to predict. I know - few women who had healthy kids at 37, 38, 40, though they tend to be the exception. I also know a woman who went into full-on menopause at 36.

Fertility in women also isn’t just a matter of time but is also tied to hormone levels and general health, just like virility is in men (men also get a lot less virile after 40 years old or so, producing fewer and fewer viable sperm due to mutations in the testes accursed over life, though it’s not as dramatic as with women.) If a woman is healthy, she will be fertile for longer and have more successful pregnancies.

In terms of looks, that’s pretty subjective (I especially laugh at men who say women look worse with wrinkles because…women with wrinkles look bad. It’s so circular). I definitely think that everyone tends to look better in the 20s/early 30s. But how steeply you drop off in looks is a mixture of luck, healthy habits (eating healthy, skincare, exercising) and the level of stress you’ve been under. Some women look amazing at 50 (think Giselle). Most women look worse than they did at 25 but still fine enough. Some look bad. Aging is normal, and I really don’t know why TRP makes such a big deal out of it.

TheDrWinston · 2021-09-24T15:45:02+00:00

The wall is kind of a stupid concept looks usually fade for both men and women. Fertility does reduce (for both men and women crazy I know) but it's not a halt.

Men lose T levels as they age and women have menopause.

The wall is a fake concept when they could just refer to menopause and even then it's still a stretch. I've seen women in their 60s fool me thinking they were middle aged. and women in their 40s look like geezers. Genetics is weird.

Otherwise-Term3014 · 2021-10-11T02:27:04+00:00

There is a general medical consensus that geriatric pregnancy begins at 35 years old. Girls start having their period around 11 with 16-23 being the prime fertility window. The wall for a woman is typically 30, some party hard and hit it at 25, some take care of themselves and can stretch it to mid 30’s.

bugrilyus · 2021-09-21T21:09:04+00:00

It is true. Fertility quality degrades with age and this is a fact. Not some bs.

Naus1987 · 2021-09-21T20:27:57+00:00

It’s a thing, but so loosely defined that people can skew the data to push whatever agenda they want, lol.

But the truth is, as women (and men) get older — they all reach a point where their physical attractiveness decreases. That’s in most simple terms, the wall.

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Again, it can be described so many different ways that it’s hard to debate it without getting too in-depth and examining all avenues. But the wall most red pill men typically speak of is when a woman becomes old enough that she’s no longer attractive enough to get her way all the time.

The kind of thing that really only happens to women who are attractive to begin with, and who get accustomed to how the world reacts to their beauty. Only to be surprised when the world reacts differently once they lose it.

Hitting the wall is more about a quick change of pace. Like how a fast car instantly slows down when it crashes into a wall.

Women of mediocre or less attraction who aren’t going very fast to begin with may never experience a quick deceleration like a hitting a wall. Their transition into age may go slowly and smoothly.

But I promise you, there’s enough pretty women/men who lose their attractiveness, and freak out about it. I see why it’s a phenomenon. But still. So loosely defined that you can’t hash out any real debate unless you figure out the context of the conversation.

SenorTonto · 2021-09-21T21:49:37+00:00

Obviously. We all age and die. Do you think a guy in his 80s is getting the some quality of ass that he was getting when he was younger? the wall doesnt mean you have no more options. it means your options are narrowed.

for men and women it is different but there is an individual component also. I dont think it is anything to be concerned about though. its common sense. I think the people that are bothered by it just cant except the realities that come with aging

Mark_Freed · 2021-09-22T04:56:00+00:00

I met this 32 year old girl a few days ago. Gorgeous… she dances regularly and looked better than 23 year olds I know. It’s possible for girls and guys to retain looks well into 30s. Arguably it’s easier for guys. But girls have more practice so it evens out I guess.

Title	Is hitting the wall even a thing?
Author	castion12
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Date	September 21, 2021 7:53 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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