HR depts are populated by women who show no mercy when it comes to the suffering endured by men.

TendieDinner777 · 2022-01-28T18:16:15+00:00

Our HR department hosted a virtual Q&A with the option to submit questions “anonymously”.

After a couple of questions about diversity of race, I asked what they are doing to ensure diversity of gender when hiring for the HR department.

The seven member panel of all women ignored the question, despite it being upvoted to the top of the queue. They simply rambled on and on about the previous question until we were out of time.

kennend3 · 2022-01-28T18:55:22+00:00

as u/TendieDinner777 posted.. try raising questions to them about gender equality sometime.

I did, they flat out ignored me as well. Simply pretended not to see my multiple emails on the issue, not a single response.

secretobserverlurks · 2022-01-28T18:55:18+00:00

Here is the thing.... its a misconception that HR is there to help employees. On the contrary, HR exists for one purpose and one purpose only, that is to reduce the legal liability of a company.

Your experience is in line with what the real purpose of HR is. They opened a case against you so you cannot claim benefits(guessing you have some) or their image as a proactive company remains intact.

Protektor35 · 2022-01-28T19:48:22+00:00

Here is a word of advice in these situations. Document everything when it happens and be as detailed as you possibly can when it happens. You want to document the time, place, how long the encounter was and who was there to witness it.

The other thing is NEVER go in to any meeting that is close doored with a single person. If you are forced to do this then record the entire thing and explain to them it is to protect everyone involved. If they have nothing to hide then it won't be an issue. You may want to record any closed door meeting anyway so it doesn't become a he said she said, she said situation. You should never go in to a closed door meeting alone with the opposite sex, that is just asking for trouble down the line for all kinds of claims that things happened that didn't. Most companies have policies against this for that exact reason.

If your work place has gotten so bad that you feel you are always being attacked or whatever, then check the laws for your location and start audio recording your entire day on your phone or whatever. This will further allow you to document things if you ever need to go to a lawyer.

I am not a lawyer but if a work environment is hell I would consider recording my day regardless of the law and then allow the lawyer to figure out what to do with it when you are forced to sue.

It sucks to have to go to these levels but you have to protect yourself first because companies and evil people can permanently ruin your life if you don't protect yourself.

Cabelinho211 · 2022-01-28T19:31:55+00:00

Tbh I work for the government, girlfriend got a job where I work in another building, different dept. She got bullied to fuck for around a year. I helped her lay out everything that was happening, all the rules her female manager was breaking etc. We followed the official process, went to the case worker team and fuck all happened. I strongly believe now that hr is there to protect the business not the employees. They don't give a fuck about anyone. They just don't want to get sued or have something go to the press that tarnishes their reputation.

throwaway3569387340 · 2022-01-29T11:25:01+00:00

Years ago I discovered that a female colleague was sleeping with an exec in her direct supervisory line. The evidence was overwhelming. Since we both worked for the same person it was clear that she was getting favoritism in everything; pay, time off, projects, the works.

I went to HR. They conducted an investigation where a different executive confided in me months later that she had actually been sleeping with at least 3 other people. I don't know what she had on who, but I was encouraged to "seek employment elsewhere commensurate with my skills". I left the company and a few weeks later she was promoted.

Never, NEVER, NEVER go to HR.

Jemtex · 2022-01-28T21:38:37+00:00

This is why I have a law degree and crypto

Take records,

BTFO HR every time

Untimely_manners · 2022-01-29T01:42:39+00:00

I wouldn't even date a female if I knew they worked in HR, to me it's a red flag. I have seen too many evil women in HR for me to trust someone who wants to work in HR.

zogins · 2022-01-28T18:54:54+00:00

I don't want to give too much info about my case. But think about it: In many professions - the real workers are men. For example in STEM, especially engineering and the hard sciences, females are very few. I happen to possess specialized knowledge that required research in areas that no woman would dare venture. But then when I go to work I find that women who know NOTHING of the intricacies of my profession and of my work dictate to me everything from what I should wear, to the way I should draw reports and to the way I should collaborate with colleagues.

CyclopeWarrior · 2022-01-28T19:30:11+00:00

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masuabie · 2022-01-29T04:58:48+00:00

I applied for a management position and I got denied the ability to even interview. I knew I was qualified and contested it with my union backing me. We fought with the Director of HR, but she said there were so many more qualified applications that they outranked me and I couldn't interview.

The woman who got the job was less qualified then me. I complained everywhere that I didn't even get to interview and it fell on deaf ears.

tractomula · 2022-01-28T21:10:21+00:00

I work on IT. As long as I behave professionally, we don’t have to put up with most of their bullshit. It’s way harder to find a good coder than an HR.

LettuceBeGrateful · 2022-01-28T23:40:14+00:00

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Morden013 · 2022-01-29T02:45:00+00:00

Totally agree with you.

It took me several months to fire a female employee who had a nasty attitude to everybody, and was actively obstructing projects. The whole thing was handled by the female HR employee, who balanced my facts against colleagues feelings.

On the other hand - firing a guy, no problem.

Social services, courts... same damn thing.

It is a smart move to have a lady-therapist on your side. Find a good lawyer, too, to organize and present the facts. All the best!

SodyPops17 · 2022-01-28T19:44:22+00:00

She is only helping cause you are paying her dude. Shes not some special anomaly. If a woman came in she would also understand that woman's plight.

No_Employee_5755 · 2022-01-28T20:50:56+00:00

your a good man, hope you can get another better job without those pricks

elireloaded · 2022-01-28T21:55:26+00:00

*IT department’s

MaggotCorps999 · 2022-01-29T01:33:26+00:00

I think this is true with any type of human services.

A York County Pennsylvania courthouse worker, a lady, supervisor, working in the law library, that helped 2 others with paperwork and the computers gave me attitude because I needed to file emergency custody paperwork. Said I can't do that and she can't help me.

Danny_Mc_71 · 2022-01-29T08:12:48+00:00

"The case took a turn for the worse because they opened a court case against me. Unfortunately our country is now run by a socialist government and elections will only be held in March."

I'm curious about this part.

What are they accusing you of?

What country are you from and why do your countries elections have any bearing on your situation?

Billy-Batdorf · 2022-01-29T03:01:47+00:00

Extremely based combo of antiwork and mensrights OP

MotherAce · 2022-01-28T20:11:30+00:00

why is it relevant to mention that your government is now run by the socialist party?

Jemtex · 2022-01-29T02:55:16+00:00

How to deal with HR and other *co-workers*

Take records of everything you do each day - lofg them as file notesIf you are asked for talk or review and you spider sense is tingleing take 2 x recording devices...Sit down with the other people and tell them you are recording the meeting.

I would put the recording devices infront of them.

In this case the two people did not want the meeting even though they had "issues" that were never revealed to me, and had weeks to get thier case together. A soon as any hint of actual accountability came, they then said they did not want the meeting.

Later to a SNR they said "I did not want thte meeting" I had them on record saying *they* did not want the meeting.

They shot their entire credibility on both points

I had been give 2-3 x of the work load of everyone else and they I think wanted to say the issue was with me.

Take objective records and state you are takeing objective electronic records.

Some one else did my job for 1 day and told the Senior that my job was completely unsutainable due to workload

ShiZniT3 · 2022-01-29T08:24:08+00:00

hiring reps too, many state jobs are primarily females as well. if you check the state jobs and their hiring managers most are female. definitely no bias in their hiring decisions im sure...

N3wlyn · 2022-01-29T12:10:26+00:00

This pretty minor in comparison but at one stage I was starting a new job very basic just shop work and I got let go before I could start work cause on my orientation day I was taken to hospital due to the lining of my stomach coming out. I presented evidence and everything but the classic "boss bitch" manager didn't give a fuck that I was sedated and in hospital and they told me to fuck off.

sleepyJoeBidet · 2022-01-29T12:34:58+00:00

HR Is there to protect the interests of the company, by an occasional following hostile workplace environment regulations, or giving the appearance of having made a good faith effort to do so. They are only the allies of upper management and shareholders.

Valuable_Passion4938 · 2022-01-29T20:45:24+00:00

Very few women actually give a shit about men’s rights you just got lucky

Jemtex · 2022-01-28T21:39:13+00:00

Alslo HR are slave drivers

lord_of_memezz · 2022-01-29T03:06:36+00:00

HR departments are hell holes filled with moronic women who know nothing about their job from my own experience. Whenever I have to deal with HR I always come prepared for whatever it is I have to do and record EVERY conversation I have with them. Luckily I am in a union and as soon as I say I want a union rep the HR people generally shut up. HR is not there for you, they are their for the company only and if you let them steam roll you you are fucked.

Neppy_sama · 2022-01-29T15:22:06+00:00

That's what this group for, this group supports equality but not unfair treatment towards men.

DrunicusrexXIII · 2022-01-29T00:16:46+00:00

They used to be the personnel department. Hiring, firing (sometimes), payroll, and benefits, and they reported to accounting. Kind of like "Customer Service" (usually a lack thereof) used to be the "Complaints Department."

Personnel became "HR" when suddenly we had to staff most of middle management, marketing, and legal with women. Now of course they have to be in charge of propaganda, indoctrination, and Orwellian feel-good bullshit.

On the bright side, most managers, which now means huge numbers of women, avoid HR like the plague. On some level too some female managers are aware that many high-performing men tend to get ignored, particularly in firms that are headquartered in the Northeast and coastal western US.

JamesBoyle123 · 2022-01-29T05:02:24+00:00

AWAP

Kittensoft1 · 2022-01-29T12:40:01+00:00

I'm a union rep at my work and something I always say to new members is "If we had a department called "Paper clip resources" do you think their first duty would be to the well being of the paper clips?". Their job is to look after the well being of staff only as mandated by law and then only to limit the company's liability. They might be lovely people as individuals but as a department they always put the company's wellbeing first.

RealStarkey · 2022-01-30T14:50:45+00:00

This times 100

gimp_mother · 2022-02-08T04:37:09+00:00

The classic tale of a woman vs her worst enemy. Herself.

pbj_sammichez · 2022-01-28T19:27:23+00:00

Lol @ "our country is run by a socialist government." That just highlights the extent to which braindead tradcons buy into the fox news pandering. America is not socialist. America cant even manage to socialize the 3 most perfect institutions for socialism: healthcare, education, and incarceration.

No. You're wrong. You clearly dont understand socialism. Also, acting like the US court system is inherently anti-right-wing is a joke. Kyle Rittenhouse committed premeditated murder, but the judge unilaterally decided all the obvious evidence of premeditation was too damning to be used in court. After all, an honest and fair trial would have landed the right-wing darling in jail!

I want to be on your side of the argument about HR departments because I have been a victim of women deciding that they were justified in discrimination against men because feminism told them it was necessary. But your language strikes me as someone with the tradcon victimhood complex. I can't help thinking there is a chunk of the story that's missing. Specifically, a chunk that indicates why firing you was not unlawful termination is conspicuously absent. Because if the story is this simple, you should be suing them for sexual discrimination, unlawful termination, creating a hostile work environment, and retaliatory actions toward an employee who reported harassment. So, what gives?

Women will always assume manhood is easy. They will always think being a man is just inherently easy, so our complaints that they dont care about us will always fall on deaf ears.

Title	HR depts are populated by women who show no mercy when it comes to the suffering endured by men.
Author	zogins
Upvotes	1406
Comments	119
Date	January 28, 2022 6:11 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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