To feminists who support mother bias custody why?

ggleblanc2 · 2022-07-16T09:12:38+00:00

Why are you looking for feminists on a men's rights subreddit?

OldEgalitarianMRA · 2022-07-16T11:21:39+00:00

I watched a movie last night called St. Vincent starring Bill Murray who becomes friend with a boy next door being raised by a single mom.

Her ex-husband took her to court in the film and won 50/50. She was forlorn and blamed Bill Murray for having to share custody with her son's father.

The boy seemed very happy and said "Well, he is my dad". Nice movie.

Feminists will tell you men cannot be trusted around children. Men will rape them and beat them. This is straight up misandry.

Aimless-Nomad · 2022-07-16T11:39:16+00:00

You won't find any femis here. They only come to troll and insult and regurgitate their garbage. Go to some of the femi subs.

AndyBrown65 · 2022-07-16T12:17:48+00:00

Nothing but crickets…..

Feminism has nothing to do with equality, please prove me wrong that 50/50 custody should be the norm.

In fact, given the fact that majority custody to mothers only hurts mothers financially, mentally and in many ways, there is a case for majority custody for fathers.

Given that mothers and stepfathers are over represented in filicide, maybe majority father custody would protect children.

Any feminists want to prove me wrong?

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GnomeChompy · 2022-07-16T16:26:57+00:00

I've asked a few irl. It always comes down to a nicely generic "mothers instinct."

Which is a nice way of saying they are female chauvanists.

Responsible_Ad5216 · 2022-07-16T13:10:03+00:00

I had a discussion with a feminist some time back. It is because of inherent male guilt.

Whenever a mother is awarded custody in court, it is the father's fault, because he surely wasn't co-parenting enough. Judges cannot just grant the custody to practically a stranger the kids almost never see.

And this is also the root cause of the divorce surely. Both the divorce and the custody is the man's fault and the fault of patriarchy that enforces gender roles.

Any examples showing something different (fathers in childcare carriers losing custody of their own children, for example) is just an infinitesimally small deviation.

It's all the man's fault.

2022-07-16T17:01:54+00:00

MEALTICKET.

2022-07-16T17:17:20+00:00

Wrong sub, post it on a feminist sub. You’ll get banned, there’s your answer.

Puzzleheaded-Heat174 · 2022-07-17T06:08:17+00:00

Because feminists want gender Inequality

Hired_By_Fish · 2022-07-16T17:05:20+00:00

I think the question answers itself. Feminists will look out for their own interests.

63daddy · 2022-07-16T18:31:45+00:00

Here’s a statement by the New York Chapter of NOW objecting to equal parenting rights.

E https://avoiceformen.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/the-NOW-opposes-bill-to-give-fathers-shared-custody-2009.pdf

thinkb4youspeak · 2022-07-16T18:21:02+00:00

Because its' profitable for them and they have been raised to believe they deserve it because the were born without a weiner.

It always about the money for mother bias.

The1_And_Only_ · 2022-07-16T14:24:26+00:00

I don't even know if I qualify as this subreddits of a "feminist" but I'll give it a shot.

I believe in doing what's best for the most vulnerable. In cases where the father is the default parent, then it makes sense to lean that way after separation. If both parents are equally involved in parenting then 50/50 sense. But unfortunately a lot of parents will have one partner as the default during the relationship and only pursue custody as a way to get out of child support while pawning the actual childcare to other family members (gp's, aunt's/uncles etc.) So it ends up being a paper agreement and nothing else. And that's when everything goes left.

More-Bluebird5805 · 2022-07-16T14:02:23+00:00

Feminist here. I think it depends on the age of the child. It’s pretty cruel to separate a breastfeeding babe from its mother for any significant period of time, especially once breastfeeding is established. It can be hard for babies to learn to bottle feed even in the best circumstances and you are basically separating them from their only known source of nourishment and comfort. I don’t see that it would make a huge difference for older children or infants without an established BF relationship with mom.

Colton128 · 2022-07-16T17:27:18+00:00

I’m not a feminist or a female, but i think there is an age that the child does need the mother more than the father, and ages that the child needs the father more. But that’s just my opinion.

Mildly_Opinionated · 2022-07-16T19:44:40+00:00

We don't.

Many of us aren't so quick to leap to the assumption that mother's get custody more often for the shear reason that the courts are biased. That is one real element but there's also other elements at play that need to be addressed such as much worse male mental health, worse rates of drug addiction, higher instance rates of homelessness etc which all make for a less fit parent. These too have a wide range of causes, one of which is that men are far less likely to seek addiction counseling and mental healthcare which a lot of feminists try to encourage men to go to by dispelling toxically masculine myths such as the idea that getting mental healthcare makes one weak amongst many other things. Men are also far less likely to attend addiction counseling when it's mandated by the custody courts, they often just don't show up.

It's also pretty damn apparent that the reason why mother's are sometimes assumed to be more vital parents is because we've basically been forced into the role of child carer for thousands of years. Feminists don't like this stereotype, we want to get rid of it and encourage father's to take a greater role in child care, this could be helped by increasing paternity leave which would also have the added benefit of reducing hiring discrimination (if men and women both get equal potential leave then there's less incentive to discriminate in the workplace). Dispelling this myth is difficult though because you've still got absolute fucking dimwits who cling to the old gender stereotypes and roles like their lives depend on it, this is mostly conservative men but also a lot of evangelical Christian women and TERF's (who I definitely do not count as feminists). If you've got one side fighting for equality in roles and one fighting for an imbalance in roles the result you're going to get is something in middle, which is still an imbalance in roles.

Maybe if you guys stopped moaning about feminists and started moaning more about gender roles and spreading awareness that they're fucking dumb and hurt men as well as women then you'd actually have some allies rather than have most people think y'all just hate women. Seriously some of the comments here sound just like right wing nut jobs a lot of the time, if you guys are supposed to be about equality of the sexes that's not a good look.

funnybillypro · 2022-07-16T14:39:36+00:00

Interesting because none of the feminists I know support that.

Vulturo · 2022-07-16T17:18:03+00:00

You are looking for opinions in the wrong place.

plug_play · 2022-07-16T17:27:29+00:00

PaddleFishFap · 2022-07-16T21:11:08+00:00

Why don't ask them on their page ?

roovols · 2022-07-16T22:45:01+00:00

I’m not an active member, but I’m Not sure if they’ll be many ‘feminists’ on here, but check out ‘r/askfeminists’

Anih1list · 2022-07-17T02:10:38+00:00

As far as I know most feminists don’t support mother-bias, they simply oppose having courts making any default assumption. In other words, instead of being pro-mother, pro-father, or pro-equal share, they start out with no position at all. Given many fathers (and mothers) don’t wish to retain custody in the first place, the “anti-equality” take sounds worse on paper than reality.

2022-07-17T07:52:05+00:00

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Title	To feminists who support mother bias custody why?
Author	Relaxing-homie
Upvotes	152
Comments	174
Date	July 16, 2022 8:48 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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