Curious if there are any women in this sub?

goodmod · 2022-09-05T01:50:21+00:00

Yes there are. For example, u/typhonblue is one of the moderators.

There are many others, who may or may not choose to reply to this post.

-CloudHopper- · 2022-09-05T07:13:05+00:00

Yes because I’ve seen many male friends, and friends of my husband completely destroyed by women. Women can be absolutely brutal, and their social circles offer them full support while cheering it on.. where as the men are often left lonely and bullied, desperate and kept away from kids. It’s not fair and so sad.

BluBeech · 2022-09-05T05:16:09+00:00

Yup, one here. I joined because I had already learned about men's rights from Dr. Shaym and decided to expand my knowledge a bit and see how I can help. Plus I have men in my life who are dear to me and I also want to look out for them.

KVKS03 · 2022-09-05T03:57:14+00:00

Yes, I’m an older woman who was once in a long term relationship with a man who wasn’t able to work through the damage a prior abusive relationship caused. I just want to try to gain some understanding because it broke my heart.

Professional_Ad8074 · 2022-09-05T03:59:56+00:00

I’m a woman and I’m proponent of mens rights because I see the inequality. I see how the #metoo movement literally destroyed peoples lives and families. “Men ain’t shit” comments from every female on social media. It’s gross and arrogant as all hell. Men don’t get a voice. Because everyone sees them as “privileged”

When I first joined this I was mortified at the stories men were telling. I literally had goosebumps and wanted to cry at some.

Mens mental health decline in the USA is upsetting. I don’t even have words for how disappointed I am… we need to love our men unconditionally. We need to be there for them and encourage them to take care of their mental health. We need to stop making fun of men crying. The stigma that they need to be tough needs to die…. I’ve witnessed men I’m close to get accused of sexual harassment etc. just because the girl is hurt and salty.

I’ve witnessed women act like they’re at the bottom and there’s no equality. Now while I have my own views on women’s rights, I empower them when they’re in the right. But I’m sick of people empowering them when they’re dead wrong

EDIT: People made assumption about what I meant by “not bothered” when I was responding to someone else’s comment on the thread about having thick skin.. -“Not bothered” aka “Not taking it personally enough to get a rise out of me”

Kitsunemitsu · 2022-09-05T06:03:53+00:00

Hey there!
I read the stories about how men's shelters are shut down due to them just receiving no funding (compared to woman's shelters) and how a lot of people just talk shit on men and it's just accepted? Like it's not even questioned. I'm gay and black. I NEVER want anyone to feel the same discrimination that I get.
We need to work on a better future, for all of us.

Foreign_Law3727 · 2022-09-05T07:41:28+00:00

I am. And because I believe that true feminism is equality for all. And I’m appalled that in some cases we’ve swung so much in the opposite direction that society is becoming detrimental to men. I’ve a father, a bf, lots of male cousins and lots of guys in my life I deeply care about and would never want any harm or injustice to be bestowed upon them.

RisingWolfe11 · 2022-09-05T07:59:57+00:00

Hi!

I never was a fan of people just saying "ALL MEN ARE THE PROBLEM" or saying "boys need to unpack their sexism" as BABIES.

There is anlot more, ive mentioned it many times, but basically I don't want to have men be brought up thinking they are a problem, or think they need to change anything because "patriarchy".

I have legit heard a baby boy will oppress every women around him THE SECOND HE IS BORN.

Like my god. The insanity!

I wanna help unpack the reasons they think this and help them understand.

But 99% of the time im a misogynistic bigot so 🤷‍♀️

I just don't care whay they call me anymore 😂 im still for men's rights, and always will be.

Any_Drama3272 · 2022-09-05T06:12:10+00:00

I’m an adult woman, I get downvoted in this sub pretty often and called a misandrist, and otherwise shit talked because Reddit.

I have pretty thick skin though, and the reality is, it couldn’t be further from the truth. I was raised by a single father, who I watched go through hell and back from mistreatment and physical abuse, and my fiancé was pretty damaged by abuse endured in a previous relationship before me to where he was pretty destroyed emotionally.

I believe men are left out in scenarios revolving around abuse, sexual assault, and parenting issues where it would be great if they had more awareness, representation, and exposure to tell and find others who understand where they’re coming from.

Obviously I don’t like being shit talked, and there’s often a lot of replies with toxic comments who over defensively sometimes assume I am saying something toxic because of maybe something they have going on, and I’m only human.

But, I don’t believe a few misunderstandings or sour people is enough to motivate me to stop trying to get something out there for someone who might need it: 1 in 5 men have been victims of sexual assault in their life, usually by someone they trusted, and with a number like that, then it’s easy to believe at least one of them is reading and could stand to hear it’s not their fault, and they did not deserve it.

Just like every person, male or female, has experienced abuse by at least one partner they’ve been with in their lifetime by the time they are 30, but it’s more often that men will disregard it or not consider it abuse because they think admitting or acknowledging it makes them weak. It doesn’t make a man weak, it makes the person who mistreated them to be an abusive piece of shit.

Sometimes I like to go to the DivorceMen subreddit, full of guys who aren’t sure what to do, who feel like shit, and they’re told minor anecdotes of ‘you’re better off without’ or ‘there’s other fish in the sea’ like that’s “enough” for a person, but sometimes a person needs more, and needs to have someone remind them they are capable and how the end of a relationship does not mean they failed, and they need to know the stress passes soon but they have to get through it first. I enjoy spending time in things like that, where I can.

So I guess that’s why I’m still around despite pissing people off, lol.

Tigarana · 2022-09-05T08:45:56+00:00

I'm a woman here. I'm mostly here because I want to understand the issues. However, that means I sometimes ask questions and that gets met with toxic responses half of the time. Which I think is a pitty

wowfactorswa · 2022-09-05T08:54:35+00:00

My dad was mentally and psychologically abused in their marriage. I couldn’t stand all the gaslighting and had to ran away for my sanity. He stayed for “love and to keep the family together”. He ended up in a psych ward and he’s not had his life back due to PTSD. Slowly healing now that they’re separated. I’ve seen how women can rip men apart and get away. I lurk so I can learn how to be a better friend to my guy friends, better girlfriend, sister and maybe future wife/mother.

---Starlight--- · 2022-09-05T11:11:57+00:00

Yes I joined because I fear for my son’s future. I don’t understand how any mother of a male would not be concerned. Edit: I also have daughters and don’t want them to fall into the heinous trap being perpetuated by society. I saw my brother abused and with very little resources to help him and his mental health he turned to suicide and succeeded. My husbands ex wife and how she systematically ruined his life with no repercussions.I’m tired of it and I won’t sit idle and watch it keep happening.

Cthulhurlyeh09 · 2022-09-05T12:19:34+00:00

I actually identify as more masculine myself and relate more to men, but I'm female. And I'm a proponent of men's rights because I believe in fairness and equality and feminism has reached the point of hating men, and I just can't support it. The statistics of male depression and homelessness and also the way male victims of domestic violence get brushed off is horrible.

reckoningrevelling · 2022-09-05T06:01:03+00:00

Everyone deserves happiness and I try to do my part with working towards this ultimate goal.

Mailingriver_ · 2022-09-05T07:47:06+00:00

Bless you all.

Thund77 · 2022-09-05T08:53:00+00:00

I would also like to point to some women who come here from curiosity, asks something then leaves. I think this is very good thing, because they come here in either with an interest, or maybe because they wanted their point of view being confirmed or shattered.

I think this is a healing process and good starting point to be understood. I hope I am not being too optimistic seeing things in this matter.

Im sure in one point in time we all tried to go into discussion with feminists and try to understand them. I went to some lectures in college called Feminist Anthropology (nothing to do with anthropology, we had guesting teacher from Gender Studies from USA). It is last time I did that, because teacher was very militant, aggressive and propaganda-ish. I never felt so uncomfortable and being shamed for just being a man. I was just not welcome there.

So I understand how it is like for women to come here to try to understand us. More power to them.

madvoice · 2022-09-05T09:58:18+00:00

I comment from time to time and follow the sub. It's gotten me banned from other subreddits just from commenting.

I've seen a lot of inequality amongst male friends and acquaintances regarding abuse and child custody matters (even though I've gone through my own child custody battles I always tried my best to remain fair). I help where I can. I support however I can. I go digging for resources and through legislation to try and help implement change. I'm not perfect but I've got to start somewhere.

Snoo_2853 · 2022-09-05T15:24:36+00:00

Yup, am woman and am here. I hate the hypocrisy of feminism. You can't fix hate with more hate. You can't fix sexism with more sexism.

Men's rights are human rights. Everyone should care when anyone, regardless of their genetics, is oppressed. Men and women should be working together for the good of all.

Savfuckingapproved · 2022-09-05T20:20:04+00:00

I am a woman, and I think a lot of women today are just filled with bullshit. They love to whine about being oppressed and feminism and shit like that and then act god awful towards men just because they have a dick, and rob them of their money and stuff like that. They're also not just shitty towards men, but women too. They like to piss and shit on women that disagree with them and women who dare be supportive of men, even though that's what God made men and women to do.

Elegant-Historian961 · 2022-09-05T10:44:59+00:00

Yup, many of us. Getting perspectives of both sides. Understanding issues that people face.

hopininamopin · 2022-09-05T11:13:47+00:00

Yes. Because rights for everyone is fundamental. The things going on today regarding men is insane. Also I have a husband and now son who I love and care about a bunch. Why should my son not have the same treatment as my daughter and vis versa

IAintDeceasedYet · 2022-09-05T11:28:54+00:00

Because men's rights are human rights

Ludra64 · 2022-09-05T11:50:01+00:00

Me too, because I hate the way men are treated by women. I hate what you have to endure. I hate that there is little to no help for male victims of domestic violence or even rape. I believe that everyone is equal, be it man or woman, black or white people, poor or rich: they should all be treated the same.

RaptorSeer · 2022-09-05T13:25:31+00:00

I followed this sub because I felt that the concerns were valid, and I was curious whether or not this sub would devolve into another echo chamber for bashing women, or if it would become an avenue to organize real changes for society. I know that my comments are likely to be downvoted, but I stay because I believe in equality for everyone, which to me means treating everyone fairly and justly, and not being cruel to each other.

I feel like the feminism that I used to read about 30 or 40 years ago acknowledged that the existing status quo oppressed both men and women into roles they may not necessarily want for themselves, and women's rights are human rights. But today's radical feminism has really overcorrected for the complaints of women, and now these activists are exhibiting the oppressive behavior that they supposedly espouse to eradicate. We've been pitted against each other convinced it's the other side that's the problem, and that infighting is a tactic to keep the subservient distracted enough from revolting against the actual exploitive power. We live with an economic system that treats humans as capital and commodity, and people will take advantage of any weak points they find because they have no respect for their fellow neighbors.

I grew up in healthy relationships with my father and brothers, and I know that understanding and healthy relationships can be achieved between men and women. I have seen how men can be just as sensitive and emotional as, if not more than, women, but are often not allowed to express it. Your grievances are valid, and I've known this for a while. I also have seen a lot of toxic behavior that is a part of Western women's culture, and I don't like to see it either. I run counter to it by not engaging in gossip with my female coworkers, not jumping to smear campaigns against anyone who even slightly annoys me, and giving people the benefit of the doubt when they express an idea that doesn't quite fit my world view, giving them a chance to explain things from their side. I feel that these are baseline demonstrations of civility that everyone deserves to receive.

I'd like to stick around to support men on some of these issues and maybe help with the healing. I try to ignore the irrational trash-talk against women that often pops up here and categorizes the whole other sex as evil, because I know behind that comment there is a person who is hurting and they are just venting here. I hope you can begin to see that some of us really want things to be better, and I'm sorry someone did that to you. Life is hard enough as it is without us bashing each other, so let's support each other instead. I'm really encouraged that Honey Badger Brigade exists too. We need to trust that most of us who are earnest, if not all (excepting the trolls), are here to make some improvements in men's lives, because men's rights are also human rights.

dw87190 · 2022-09-05T05:12:42+00:00

There are definitely women on here, I consider at least two of them friends

2022-09-05T08:13:48+00:00

I guess if one is truly moved by other's misfortune, then the sympathy cannot be partial or specific towards one certain group. It should naturally be universal depsite that in reality most time it won't

Idiosyncratically on my very personal part I was raised more like a man than woman, so eventually during all these years I know how stressful and insecure they could be, and how women can be very unkind and mean to those who just aren't like them

Melodic-Analysis-738 · 2022-09-05T11:38:16+00:00

Yes, hello. I care about men’s rights for many reasons. First and foremost is my husband and The many things he teaches me through conversation about the male experience in general and in our society. It’s astonishing to me how differently we were brought up to view the world and ourselves. I don’t think I ever truly had respect for my father as a girl, because he couldn’t enforce anything, because my mother didn’t respect him, because the world didn’t respect him. I needed a father to raise me and I didn’t get that. You should’ve seen how I turned out, before my husband saved me.. Men are necessary. If this comment is incomplete or in anyway insufficient, my bad. I don’t feel like I can add much here usually. I’m usually just a spectator who’s learning and wants to help when opportunities arise. Thank you all for your help, and good luck in life.

2022-09-05T12:50:59+00:00

Yes. My best friend is a man and I want to understand his perspective when we talk about certain things. I could never know personally how it feels to go through some of what he has endured merely because of his gender, but I want to be as supportive as possible without sounding insincere.

2022-09-05T14:17:07+00:00

God bless all of them here

JamesDieKugel · 2022-09-05T14:32:02+00:00

I have 3 big brothers who all told me over the years what woman did to them. That's why I'm here and because I thought nobody cares and wanted to be sure that I was wrong

suib26 · 2022-09-05T15:15:20+00:00

Yup. It's impossible to ignore male issues once you start clocking on to them. Once I had one realisation the rest kept coming and it's actually terrifying to think misandry is this deep rooted and sometimes right in your face but many can't see it or are socially conditioned not to.

I won't lie, sometimes I'm a little frustrated with some people on this sub. Majority of the time it's great but I find some people justify sexism or don't want to acknowledge they said something sexist. These comments tend to get downvoted to hell but recently I had a bad experience where I was downvoted for calling it out and the guy got upvoted. It makes me doubt myself if I'm being too sensitive or not. If anyone wants to see the conversation I can link it. 😅

I'm pretty chill about it because I understand there are a lot of hurt men here but I'd say as someone who went from quite an extreme hyper sensitive mens rights activist to a much more relaxed one I don't want to see others do the same.

Sometimes your brain and fear of being wrong does you dirty, so I think it's important for everyone to really think things over before jumping the gun and making accusations that aren't always that deep.

Matches12 · 2022-09-05T16:01:51+00:00

I lurk out of curiosity. Men kill themselves at such a high rate, it would be foolish to not look at the common denominator (men) and wonder what on earth these dudes are going through that is causing an epidemic of suicides😳 it took me reading this sub to realize that men are socially isolated, and their feelings invalidated allll the time. I’m married and I don’t talk to any men besides mine, so I wouldn’t have realized these issues if I hadn’t explored this sub🤷🏼‍♀️

The1_And_Only_ · 2022-09-05T17:27:39+00:00

Yup, because I want to understand what's going on in the world of men. I think being more cognizant of men's issues helps me be a better support system for the men in my life. I'm limited to experiencing the world only through my own lense, I make it a point to try and get as many perspectives as I can.

weatherfrcst · 2022-09-05T18:22:58+00:00

Here! I put 2 and 2 together and realized you can’t separate men’s rights from women’s rights.

Men and women tend to marry each other so all of my husband’s debts, wealth, and problems are also my own and vice versa. Even if people don’t marry or marry later in life, this still holds true.

There are some big issues here at play but simply put: I care about women. I care about men. And I care about me. I like when I’m out in society and a man hasn’t become disgruntled by truth fearing feminist culture and he holds the door open for me! Happy men=happy me

Acadia-Electrical · 2022-09-05T18:28:48+00:00

Women should definitely be here, as there are men in women rights reddits. I think it's necessary that problems are seen from both sides

NeoVidia · 2022-09-05T21:36:52+00:00

I needed to see this. Being a man feels so fucking hopeless sometimes.

cuppa_tea_4_me · 2022-09-05T21:46:37+00:00

I have two sons. I am tired of people blaming them for everything wrong in the world.

WoodTreeFrog · 2022-09-06T02:50:25+00:00

Non-binary AFAB.

Edit: Why am I a proponent of men's rights: because The liberation of any people group tends to render positive results for a society.

... And I have noticed the double standards between the genders in our society when I present as either female or male on any given day.

LedRedNed · 2022-09-06T11:27:36+00:00

Hi :) I’m here because I like to see both sides of the medal. I can’t build a solid option about (missing) women’s rights without knowing anything about (missing) men’s rights and the other way around.

TheGreatMajesto · 2022-09-05T02:03:57+00:00

I think women who stick around need to have pretty thick skin due to all the anti women comments.

Just recently 20 people upvoted comments about how 'women's true nature is to hate men'.

Here's the quote

"Exactly hahaha! If anything I'm grateful to feminism in a way because it showed women's true nature.

Remember they were ALWAYS like this all throughout history. They just used be good at keeping it quiet and pretending otherwise."

UndyneTheFishie · 2022-09-05T12:20:26+00:00

Me.I believe men are more oppressed than women for several reasons.

AnOddTree · 2022-09-05T12:10:03+00:00

Yes.

FuckablePokemon · 2022-09-05T12:29:38+00:00

Yeah like me!

ifreew · 2022-09-05T13:04:55+00:00

They should make this a sticky.

LetsTalkFV · 2022-09-05T15:20:17+00:00

I'm not so much a proponent of men's rights, as I am a proponent of fundamental human rights - every human: men, women, children, seniors, the able-bodied, the disabled, all races, all blood types, etc.... (That last one was a joke, btw...)

I am very sympathetic towards and understand the necessity for the men's rights movement, especially these days, but am in limited support of it (and any other 'group rights' movement) in principle. For me, it's a case of 'two wrongs don't make a right', and I believe it's a mistake to take up the battle for human rights (for men or anyone) using the playing field as laid out by present-day feminism.

That said, I support men's rights, and this forum, because at the present time it's a necessary counter (but not a properly balanced counter) to the 'women's rights' movement. The women's right movement, in its present incarnation, has been hi-jacked and taken over by those with an agenda which is frequently hateful to others (and not just men, btw).

If I had to describe why I'm not a proponent of women's rights - at least as they are today - I'd be here all day. I believe organizations, public policy, etc... dealing solely with 'women's rights' (which, btw, is a misnomer because it only applies to some women), in effect allowing them to supersede &/or be separate from human rights, is a fundamental error that is tearing at the foundations of society.

Same thing with any other 'rights' movements which advertise that they're trying to level the playing field, but in reality are serving to divide people and empower one group over another.

ETA: What's happening to men these days, in the name of feminism, is out-right criminal, or was before laws were re-written. That that should even have to be said is an indication of just how insane things have become. Promoting 'men's rights' in the face of what is literally inhumane, technically illegal, and prejudiced behaviour misses the root problem here imo, which is discriminatory behaviour being written into law and public policy under the pretend auspices of fighting discrimination.

Title	Curious if there are any women in this sub?
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Upvotes	101
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Date	September 5, 2022 1:24 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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