Queensland's [Australia] first female police commissioner opposes quotas for women and wants to return to merit-based hiring.

ThisFreedomGuy · 2019-10-16T21:59:44+00:00

Good for her!

How are things in Australia? Is she in danger of being fired for using facts instead of feelings?

HeedTheGreatFilter · 2019-10-16T22:14:23+00:00

The only way we can fight for equal rights is if good women help. Men, we cannot do this alone.

Vance87 · 2019-10-16T22:37:06+00:00

Clearly she has internalized muhsoggyknee.

down_ward_spiral · 2019-10-16T23:20:19+00:00

The backstory.

Katarina's last job was as the head of the Queensland Fire & Emergency Services. She got that job when there was an incident where a few firies were found to be running a facebook page rating the bonkability of some of their female colleagues. They were dickheads but they certainly didn't reflect the fire service as a whole. For political reasons, this turned into a massive scandal, the old fire service commissioner was sacked, and Katarina, who was then the assistant-commissioner of the cops at the time was selected to rid the fire service of its 'endemic sexism'.

As soon as she took up the job, she announced she wanted 50/50 recruiting of men & ladies. None of the firies I knew had a problem working with the ladies in the job at that stage as they were all recruited to the same standard as the men. They were excellent. Now, although the bar was still officially the same, the standard was dropped dramatically. Strength tests were removed and replaced by more fitness tests. 5ft-nothing women started getting into the job. During one years recruitment, there was 11,000 male applicants. The fire service took approximately 100, the top .9%. That same year, there was 300 female applicants, 50 getting jobs, the top 17%. By the high standards of the fire service, a lot of them were terrible. Now all of sudden, all new women firies are viewed with suspicion; Is she one of the good ones who perform to the same standards as the men or is she a 'diversity hire' and will need to be baby sat during incidents to stop her injuring herself or a member of the public.

After seriously watering down the QFES standards and causing division amongst the female and male firies that never existed before her, she was hailed as a hero and given the top job as the top cop, and her first new policy? Abandoning 50/50 recruiting! Fuck me!

pomegranate2012 · 2019-10-16T23:51:20+00:00

The idea that ANY dangerous, difficult job should be done by 50% women is utterly preposterous!

I don't want to insult good, female firefighters, quite the opposite. I couldn't do the job.

But if you make it 50/50 then obviously you will end up hiring hopelessly inappropriate female staff who will end up killing themselves and members of the public.

It's all well and good being a bedroom feminist. But in the real world, those theories turn out to be total bollocks.

In TV shows, you end up with boring guests. In the media, you end up with unoriginal, thoughtless articles. In the fire service you cause the death of entire families.

EricAllonde · 2019-10-16T23:02:09+00:00

I used the quota to destroy the quota

Quey · 2019-10-16T22:20:52+00:00

I wonder why.

goodmod · 2019-10-16T23:31:28+00:00

Actually I think the first female police commissioner was in Victoria.

During one of the state's worst bushfire emergencies, she left the control centre to have dinner with friends. She was meant to be running the whole thing.

Some time later she was fired, but she should have been sacked on the spot. Clearly she wasn't needed there.

The Queensland commissioner sounds completely different, so good luck to her!

MyNameIsSushi · 2019-10-16T23:31:21+00:00

I think we've hit a point where women have the same opportunities as men and it's ridiculous to not use a merit based system. more women go to college than men at this point and it's been like this for over 30 years.

rabel111 · 2019-10-17T00:13:38+00:00

Has anyone checked to see if the majority of applicants for police training in Queenland are female? My understanding of feminists is that they only drop the "equity" argument when it benefits women. Are we looking at a majority female police force? That would be something outrageously dangerous for men. Imagine the police defense for killing men - "I felt threatened"

timeforknowledge · 2019-10-17T08:13:12+00:00

I cannot see how any sane person would not favour merit. If you want more women in the police then go to schools and put the time in educating and persuading girls to take that career path. Don't be lazy and just create a quota system that takes people that never wanted to do something and are not qualified to do it and put them in that position.

XenoX101 · 2019-10-17T09:24:28+00:00

Literally admitting the current practices are discriminatory, bravo, finally someone senior talking sense.

2019-10-17T01:25:30+00:00

Incoming push-back from social justice warriors in three...two...

Lethn · 2019-10-16T22:59:04+00:00

Oh, oh damn, oh this is going to be a conundrum for feminists :D I like her already.

nkw1004 · 2019-10-16T23:32:21+00:00

That's how it should be all around honestly. Not just for gender but also race etc. To me it's more motivating because it makes me want to be a better X to get the job

pixelies · 2019-10-17T01:31:51+00:00

She's a unicorn, she must be preserved at all costs.

Jay_Hardy · 2019-10-17T03:03:56+00:00

What’s funny to me is that the women I have talked to would agree with this.
I have talked to men, especially male feminists and they disagreed. They said that quotas are important because “it’s always been about the gender and it should be easier for women to have access to these jobs.”
Yet, the women say that while, they somewhat agree, that they still think that jobs shouldn’t just given to women for the sake of it.
That people should get jobs because they are good at it and yadda yadda.

Lion_amongst_gods · 2019-10-17T06:14:20+00:00

God bless her! I hope she resists the backlash from the feminist mob.

mr_j_12 · 2019-10-17T10:06:34+00:00

Pitty labour and the greens want to abolish the inquiry into family law reform.

Mythandros · 2019-10-16T22:26:26+00:00

Wow. There may still be hope.

Couldawg · 2019-10-16T23:58:18+00:00

NOBODY'S SUGGESTING IMPLEMENTING 50/50 QUOTAS... oh wait, it isn't 2006.

2019-10-17T00:19:44+00:00

Alternative headline -- Woman About To Lose Job.

DarthTyekanik · 2019-10-17T01:15:59+00:00

She made it there, she doesn't need any competition

MGTOWManofMystery · 2019-10-17T04:07:02+00:00

To what extent did she leverage affirmative action / quotas to get her job in the first place though?

OldSchoolNewRules · 2019-10-17T11:53:58+00:00

Set the standard, apply it universally.

2019-10-16T23:43:53+00:00

Can't possibly imagine why. /s

PolesWithGoals · 2019-10-17T00:41:42+00:00

BASED COMMISSIONER

InformalCriticism · 2019-10-17T01:01:22+00:00

When reason prevails in the interest of the group where feminism never aims? Uh... Cheers!

IronJohnMRA · 2019-10-17T01:14:09+00:00

She is going to get fired for this.

Pensive_wolf · 2019-10-17T01:40:39+00:00

can some1 link the article/video please, I tired youtube but couldn't find it.

Mr_Crick84 · 2019-10-17T02:29:09+00:00

Is there really a 50/50 recruitment thing? That's wild

superhobo666 · 2019-10-17T05:02:06+00:00

Why, because it takes 8 female cops to handle one violent male criminal, and he might still get away?

Gee what a surprise.

TheDukeOf_Donuts · 2019-10-17T09:34:29+00:00

*Everybody liked that... the people who, y'know, matter anyway

n0ne0ther · 2019-10-17T13:04:50+00:00

Suddenly gets fired.

ElBatDood · 2019-10-17T13:45:49+00:00

When I first joined this sub, most of the posts were about unfairness and injustices. I'm now seeing a few more posts about progress. This... this makes me happy.

PrekaereLage · 2019-10-17T13:46:41+00:00

Huzzah, a woman of quality!

1LegendaryWombat · 2019-10-16T23:25:51+00:00

Good on her, a stark difference than the people down here in Victoria.

2019-10-16T23:52:13+00:00

Finally a woman who uses logic

NecroHexr · 2019-10-17T02:17:25+00:00

Not even a woman wants to support feminists lol

DPL-25 · 2019-10-17T00:11:07+00:00

Imagine being a criminal and knowing there's a 50% chance of a woman is going to be the one trying to stop you. It's like a 50% chance you're going to be able to evade arrest.

FormedBoredom · 2019-10-17T00:07:01+00:00

What's this? Logic? I don't know what to say.

White_Mlungu_Capital · 2019-10-17T00:33:06+00:00

Now women can burn to death in fires as much as men, good for them!

2019-10-17T01:53:16+00:00

So does this mean she’s gonna stop the equality over everything deal and start an if you’re good you go deal

TraditionalCoffee · 2019-10-17T03:47:50+00:00

Where is the original article? Thanks

giuppy48-win9000 · 2019-10-17T05:21:09+00:00

heroine. she's a fucking hero

iainmf · 2019-10-17T05:57:17+00:00

Video source on Facebook

BigLinz79 · 2019-10-17T06:45:14+00:00

She understands it would be an insult to all the hard work she’s put in to get to where she is

2019-10-17T07:20:34+00:00

but but..that whould make sense

vsehorrorshow93 · 2019-10-17T12:03:54+00:00

ridiculous situation, like hamilton

Double_A_92 · 2019-10-17T12:23:33+00:00

Feminists be like:

internalized 👏 oppression

Kevsswal · 2019-10-17T15:48:09+00:00

She gets a salut from me, Right should be right, people should be hired based upon their merit, people should stop trying to make a system that favors them just because they aren’t good enough for the job.

PacoBedejo · 2019-10-17T16:01:20+00:00

When you take money from others under the guise of providing a "necessary" service in a monopolistic manner, you should do everything possible to ensure that you're hiring the best possible people for the lowest possible price. Using tax money to hire based on Gender/Color/Toilet-Paper-Over:Under quotas is shameful pandering and, were there justice, should lead to immediate termination and public shaming. There's a job to be done. Best service at lowest cost, please.

drmangrum · 2019-10-17T16:46:52+00:00

But did she get her position due to merit or her gender? I'd bet she's there because of her gender and wants to have good metrics under her tenure so is backing merits so she didn't have to deal with a of women than baby do their jobs.

2019-10-18T01:27:39+00:00

What a nazi!

2019-10-19T01:21:36+00:00

THANK YOU!

SuperJLK · 2019-10-31T22:49:16+00:00

Honestly, I'm pretty sure anyone that isn't a hardcore feminist would prefer a male officer protect them.

ng2_cw · 2019-11-11T20:52:27+00:00

Clever fucking girl, need more people like her

asdjkljj · 2019-10-16T23:25:54+00:00

Is this social experiment finally coming to an end?

arturowise · 2019-10-17T12:49:57+00:00

Found the mythical nawalt!!

Jk, awalt

2019-10-17T00:27:11+00:00

Good, but acab anyways.

GuyWithTheStalker · 2019-10-16T23:08:46+00:00

When you don't link to the video BUT still make a claim, you look suspect as fuck, dude...

Link to the original video.

Title	Queensland's [Australia] first female police commissioner opposes quotas for women and wants to return to merit-based hiring.
Author	EricAllonde
Upvotes	5138
Comments	199
Date	October 16, 2019 9:57 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/diwjlj/queenslands_australia_first_female_police/
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