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Judge throws out plea deal that would have seen California mother accused of having sex with daughters' teen boyfriends walk away with reduced jail time

Warholic_23

June 20, 2019
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Title Judge throws out plea deal that would have seen California mother accused of having sex with daughters' teen boyfriends walk away with reduced jail time
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Warholic_23

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Date June 20, 2019 1:59 PM UTC
(7 years ago)
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[–]Jack-Wayne 388 points389 points390 points 7 years ago (37 children) | Copy Link

Rape aside, what kind of mother would devastate her own daughters’ love lives for her own selfish benefit?

[–]HeyYouShouldSmile 210 points211 points212 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A trashy one

[–]WonderWood24 189 points190 points191 points 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Isn't this like the plot of thousands of pornos?

[–]ShadowAssassinQueef 145 points146 points147 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Just like how we all really like the antagonist in many story ideas, so too do we like a good mother/daughter betrayal in our porn. Not because we want people to be doing bad things. But because having a bit of bad is entertaining when we know the stakes are not real. No one is applauding the terrorists beheading American reporters, but everyone loves Thanos.

[–]mybustersword 53 points54 points55 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Thanos did nothing wrong

[–]neridqe00 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanos did nothing wrong

[–]Treywilliams28 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah taboo is like a all you can eat buffet great to think about terrible to partake in

[–]Brawl_Noob 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've done some crazy shit and would do it again. 😉

[–]u-had-it-coming -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The terrorist is also applauded. Not by whites though. But he is well respected in his terror community. Well he killed only one guy that's why. Also lot of countries hate America and Americans so they also applaud terrorist.

Thanos killed half the planet and almost 1,2 people think he didn't do nothing wrong.

Both have followers.

[–]Voxenna 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

well respected in his terror community

terror community

Lmao there's not one big community for terror like for fuckin furries

[–]daft_inquisitor 19 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I dunno, most of the ones I see advertised, the mom turns it into a threesome.

[–]WonderWood24 18 points19 points20 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So its basically the daughters fault for not going along with it

[–]daft_inquisitor 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–]popcanter 38 points39 points40 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

She’s doing more than just devastating her love life, she’s devastating her entire life. Now she’s gonna be known as the girl whose mom raped her boyfriend.

[–]WarmGas 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

We really need another word besides rape for this kind of shit. Rape can't both be a violent sexual act against someone, and some teens getting exactly what they wanted.

This isn't a case of a teacher abusing a position of power over a student. It was some girl's mom.

[–]Voxenna 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Statutory rape is the proper term for it

[–]WarmGas 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Which is still bad because it uses rape. Therefore we get people like in this thread you drop the statutory part and just call everything rape.

[–]Brawl_Noob 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes exactly

[–]fryhldrew 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lust for young dick

[–]JohnnyKay9 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Apparently it's a thing. Some mothers become jelous of their own daughters or even start to think their own daughters are trying to fuck their husbands. I have known a few friends who's mothers or mothers of friends have this issue.

[–]Jack-Wayne 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I’m going to need some sources on that; I seriously doubt that’s a thing.

[–]Brawl_Noob 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Munchausen by proxy... it is "a thing"

[–]XxXabbybXxX 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A shit one

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This whore apparently

[–]Yashugan00 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

who says the daughter is any better? maybe it was revenge / comeback?

[–]not_really_neutral -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

most

[+]dr_t_123 -7 points-6 points-5 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Given that the husband filed for divorce days after she was arrested, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that household was far from stable and nurturing.

[–]u-had-it-coming 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So you wouldn't divorce such a wife?

What was other option for husband?

[–]RHGrey 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Bend over backwards for her, I assume

[–]dr_t_123 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're reading too far between the lines. Its the duration of time that leads my assumption that the household was not stable and nurturing. Never said anything about not divorcing at all.

[–]dr_t_123 -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course a divorce was in line. Its the "matter of days" that's the key to my assumption here.

If you are in a healthy relationship in a well structured home, everyone's lives are quite intertwined. Untangling those lives is a really big deal. However, if the husband had already been playing with the idea, disconnecting himself from her and making subtle preparations for such it makes more sense that such a monumental action would be executed in a "matter of days".

That is, he was ready for a divorce this was just the "excuse" or "final push" he needed to execute.

[–]Su-su-Sudafed 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Idk man, probably so but not necessarily...what would you do if you found out your wife was cheating on you and not just cheating on you, but fucking your daughters' 14 and 15yo boyfriends. I think I'd leave too.

[–]dr_t_123 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh absolutely I'd leave. But days after?! Thats my point: This guy had been playing with the idea of divorce for awhile. This was just the final justification he needed.

[–]Spacejams1 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would agree if the husband decided to stay

[–][deleted] 717 points718 points719 points 7 years ago (184 children) | Copy Link

Raped two teenage boys, but is now disappointed she may have to go to jail because a second judge did not honor the get out of jail card she got the first time around. These rapists need to do serious prison time.

[–]Rathadin 208 points209 points210 points 7 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

"Free on a $550,000 bond" is what got me. I mean, I know in California you only have to post 10% of your bond, but that's still $55,000.

I have a feeling like this woman thought she could more or less "buy" justice, but the other judge wasn't having it.

[–][deleted] 67 points68 points69 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

What the hell?! I didn't know about that 10% of your bond shit. Jesus.

[–]POCKET11 103 points104 points105 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

If u pay the whole amount directly to the court, you get it back less court fee as long as you show up to all hearings.

If u pay the 10%, you're using a bail bondsman and u do not get the money back ever.

At least this is how I understand it.

[–]Zelthia 35 points36 points37 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I understand it the same way

[–]ColMacabre 36 points37 points38 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Then you both understand it corectly so thats good news!

[–]imlucid 19 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Unless they both understand it incorrectedly in which case that would be bad news.

[–]majaka1234 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But the news sprinkles are cursed

[–]LegatoDementiaModi 24 points25 points26 points 7 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

This is correct. I got arrested one time and they got me twice in one go. I input my debit info to get the fuck out of jail but very conviently their system crashed and they couldnt print a release or even confirm the payment went through right after i submitted the payment, so if i wanted to get out that day i would have to pay a bondsman. I needed to get out so i paid it again. The system took my money apparently just fine regardless of the crash and by the end of all my bullshit court appearances and other things they made me do i didnt get a cent back. In the end, my case was dismissed after several hearings and subpeonas and stuff and they still fucked me over again because the constable showed up at my door with a warrant for failure to appear in court a month or two later. Apparently the magistrate scheduled me for another like he did every month for the past little while ignorant to the fact the judge said it was over. The constable told me if thats the case, if i promised to go to the court house that day and pay a $200 fine for it he'd have to arrest me to do his job. he advised i pay it so its out of the system then get with the judge to go over it and fix the mistake. Nobody in the justice department wanted to help me make it right though after the fact, and since i paid several thousand dollars in this illegitimate bungled process i hired a lawyer and tried to sue. But guess what! seriously guess! The judge dismissed my lawsuit outright under the 11th ammendment of the constitution. Whats the 11th ammendment you may ask yourself? well the first ten are the bill of rights. theyre the rights that the government cant compromise under any circumstances. Just try to take them to court over infringing on your rights though cause the 11 ammendment states no court is required to perform any case against itself unless they just want to for some reason out of the graciousness in their hearts or some shit. Imagine that! If this isnt the absolute slap in the face of all americans and any free society i dont know what is. HOW CAN THEY SLAP?!?!

[–]lonewolfcatchesfire 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I got in jail and stayed there. It was nicer than being in my native country. Only a month, though. I wished I stayed longer but then I started to make money and liked it. I was just a teen.

[–]LegatoDementiaModi 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

i was in mississppi. its not a nice place to be i was the only white guy there and wouldnt ya know it, inmates werent very nice to me if you could imagine. They werent all rapey or nothing and i was never phsyically attacked but i was bullied. I think some were tremendously bored and it was just something to do but a few were taking out their own frusterations about things on me. like try to get in my head to make me upset or mad so they could fight if i mouthed back or swung. All things considered, it could have been alot worse but i seriously needed to get the fuck out of there. Its not my proudest moment at all. Ive tried to put it behind me. i think things are ok now. I dont live in Mississippi anymore. I got a very good job in a secure place. 90 percent of the employees are black, and the population in the city is split like 50% for the most part. As it turns out, people are not conditioned to be bad people by the color of their skin, but by being poor and scrutinized. Go figure. We need to end the welfare state and support black fathers rights better. Cause they get fucked. If they step out of line with their lady in the least she can put his ass out and get him on a bill or else he goes to prison. If she cant afford to take care of kids she gets welfare, and they keep giving her more welfare the more kids she keeps having that she cant afford and no one stops them from having more and more and more kids . And the men go to prison. If a black guy gets angry in public and he gets loud cops called in no time. a black chick can slap a dude around in public or wig out and make a scene and theyll let her go for ten minutes on a tirade shouting and breaking shit before cops are called, and when the police arrive, shes not gonna be treated nicely sure, but you can bet theyd let her get away with alot of shit screaming and fighting and not shoot her or beat her to a pulp like they would a man. These are women raising kids alone and the men cant do nothing about it. no wonder everythings fucked up. Its not even a race thing. its bleeding into all communities. Its easier to run off the dad and get paid than try and keep a family together and their legs closed for chicks and its ruining everything..... the end!

[–]majaka1234 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That sucks man but look at it this way - you're in a better place now and you've gone through the fire and come out stronger.

And yeah, anyone trying to tell you race actually matters is a dumbass. It's culture 100%.

Take a straight A student from China, throw him in a ghetto, treat him like shit, take away his chances to thrive in a community that is a bucket of crabs and tell me that kid isn't going to be selling drugs or in and out of jail.

[–]chillum1987 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep. Source: son of a scumbag

[–]davisyoung 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

California also allows you to put up your real estate as bond, though only up to 50% of its assessed value. Unlikely in this case given the county.

[–]T-diddles 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Didn't California just get rid of bond recently?

[–]1800LackToast 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same in Pennsylvania.

[–]Hedwigisbae 57 points58 points59 points 7 years ago (47 children) | Copy Link

Right? Imagine if the the genders were reversed. He would've been put away the first time and probably killed in jail (lots of criminals kill pedos in jails as even they don't like hurting kids or anyone underage)

[–]GrizzlyLeatherBut I dindu nuffin!!! 34 points35 points36 points 7 years ago (42 children) | Copy Link

Pedos being murdered in jail has more to do with inmates being victims of sexual abuse themselves when they were kids.

[–]snehehsb 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They kill them because alot of the men in prison have kids on the outside and this the only way to protect them.

[–]startsbadpunchains 15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (33 children) | Copy Link

Sounds anecdotal at best. I'm sure there's a variety of reasons.

[–]Zelthia 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Boredom and bad tv reception, for example.

[–]Hedwigisbae 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Shit, I can't watch re-runs of The Office, better kill a dude

[–]majaka1234 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've been known to slash a bitch if anyone messes with my Brooklyn nine nine reruns

[–]GrizzlyLeatherBut I dindu nuffin!!! 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link

And one of them is not

murderers in prison have such great morals even they don't want to hurt kids so they murder people who hurt kids.

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[–]NotACompleteDumbass 14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

It's a pretty well known fact. There are a lot of jails and prisons that have their sex offenders in separate pods because of the need to keep other inmates from beating/raping/murdering them.

[–]Dr_Bukkakee 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but they can still be get caught by prisoners in the general population. Jared from Subway got the shit kicked out of him.

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[–]NotACompleteDumbass 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

/u/hedwigisbae nailed it with his/her statement

(lots of criminals kill pedos in jails as even they don't like hurting kids or anyone underage)

I've talked to people that have been in jail/prison, and this sentiment is very common

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[–]GrizzlyLeatherBut I dindu nuffin!!! 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

You replied to /u/NotACompleteDumbass as if it was me. I think we all know who's the complete dumbass here. you

[–]NotACompleteDumbass -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

/r/murderedbywords

[–][deleted] 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

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[+]scifigetsmehigh -7 points-6 points-5 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

If it's well known, cite a source.

Sigh.

[–]NotACompleteDumbass 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

If you can't google it, here ya go.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/16/sex-offenders-killed-higher-rate-california-prison

https://www.rebelcircus.com/blog/pedophiles-really-treated-inside-prison/

[–]scifigetsmehigh -5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

First, don't read the guardian if you value your intelligence - and second, that wasn't so damn hard, now was it?

[–]thisme60 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Arizona does source I'm a retired AZ corrections Officer. When last there Lewis outside of Phoenix Morey unit.

[–]GrizzlyLeatherBut I dindu nuffin!!! 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

(lots of criminals kill pedos in jails as even they don't like hurting kids or anyone underage) -Them

murderers in prison have such great morals even they don't want to hurt kids so they murder people who hurt kids. -Me

Maybe don't insert yourself in the middle of someone else's conversation if you get lost in the middle immediately. My point was they aren't killing pedos out of their outstanding morals like they were suggesting. But if you need a peer reviewed, evidence based study to prove that their believed basis for pedo murder in prison is from a place of morality and that I disagree with them and agree with the common theory that the driving factor is they are sexual abuse victims themselves then by all means keep being a fucking retard.

[–][deleted] 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]GrizzlyLeatherBut I dindu nuffin!!! -5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Obviously you do to insert yourself and keep replying lmfao

[–]Dr_Bukkakee -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Also a lot of prisoners have children.

[–]AngelComa -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Do they, you'd think if these people are dying the second they go in it would get a lot more news stories. I feel like it's happen but Reddit blows it out of the water. I mean half these criminals are the ones helping human trafficking.

[–]GrizzlyLeatherBut I dindu nuffin!!! 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

It only takes 1 inmate to murder a pedo.

It's not that all inmates are pedo killers. It's that pedos are murdered in prison because they're pedos.

[–]AngelComa -5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So if it happens one time it's ok to repeat on Reddit over and over again?

[–]GrizzlyLeatherBut I dindu nuffin!!! 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You people either live under a rock or are obsessed with challenging common knowledge because it makes you feel super fucking special or something. This idea isnt perpetuated by redditors after 1 pedo is murdered in prison. THIS IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE.

There are separate prison units for sex offenders from the general population for just this reason.

The fucking government identifies them as a "vulnerable population within a prison setting"

There is article after article about it. Go ahead and use Google for yourself or check out a handful of links here:

https://www.prisonerresource.com/prison-life/special-tactics/how-sex-offenders-survive/

https://www.prisonerresource.com/sex-offenders/politics-prison-sex-offenders-federal-bureau-prisons/

https://abcnews.go.com/US/prison-living-hell-pedophiles/story?id=90004

https://www.vice.com/da/article/ppmjy8/why-sex-offenders-are-getting-slaughtered-in-california-prisons-218

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/16/sex-offenders-killed-higher-rate-california-prison

Then articles about the offenders themselves come out all the time and are no suprises to anyone.

https://www.wesh.com/article/sex-offender-dies-weeks-after-being-beaten-by-fellow-florida-jail-inmate/22360175

https://www.newsweek.com/convicted-child-molester-beaten-death-another-inmate-after-less-week-prison-1019799

And finally there are testimonials from people who experienced it first hand.

https://www.quora.com/Prisons-and-Prison-Life-Why-do-inmates-especially-hate-child-sex-offenders

So go ahead, crawl out from under that rock and stop being a hipster douche with your disbelief of common knowledge in order for you to feel super unique and different from everyone else living in reality.

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[–]GrizzlyLeatherBut I dindu nuffin!!! 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not when the government goes through so much time and effort to remove them from general population.

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[–]Hedwigisbae 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

damn, thats wild. did the guards turn a blind eye?

[–]TSwizzlesNipples 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

probably killed in jail

No they wouldn't be. They'd be put in PC or a separate wing of the prison meant for high risk prisoners.

[–]warpus 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Remember, we live in a rape culture. That's what I keep hearing anyway, and I suppose this is one example of it - people raping teenagers and almost getting away with it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I always thought rape had some violence mixed in.

[–]ElethorTheDragonOfTaint 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Statutory rape doesn't require forcible sex

[–]zelfone85[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No its all about consent and the ability to consent.

[–]TechnoTrouble -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's Cali whatcha expect

[+]ZimbabweHeist -60 points-59 points-58 points 7 years ago* (113 children) | Copy Link

It sounded pretty consensual. To call this rape kind of does a disservice to those who are actually forcibly raped.

[–]Kenan2005 55 points56 points57 points 7 years ago (32 children) | Copy Link

Are you actually fucking insane? What would you think if a 41yr man fucked a 14yr and 15yr but it’s fine because “it was consensual”

[–]ProgressiveStump 29 points30 points31 points 7 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link

This is exactly what pisses me off. Genders should not be a consideration. A female raping an underage male should carry the same sentence as a man raping an underage girl.

[+]Spoon_Elemental -20 points-19 points-18 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Well no, the girl can still get pregnant. There's mental trauma either way, which is bad, but girls also have the chance of either dying due to an underage pregnancy or being saddled with a burden they aren't prepared for. They're both bad, but there's actually a very practical reason that one is considered worse.

[–]PeterPumpkinHead91 13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Nope. Boys who were raped may have to pay child support.

[+]Spoon_Elemental -18 points-17 points-16 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That's still not a risk of death.

[–]PicticiousIm YOUR crazy future MIL 17 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You are a fucking dick. People like you are the reason the suicide rate amongst men is sky high. This is rape. They were groomed and raped.

The worst part of it is that these boys will probably never be able to truly talk about their trauma because of people like you brushing it off as something benign.

[+]Spoon_Elemental -10 points-9 points-8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not brushing it off. I'm just pointing out why it's considered worse for girls because it was brought up. It's obviously a pretty big fucking deal if somebody gets raped, but if nobody who wants to make a change is willing to acknowledge why things are the way they are then that change will never be made. You can't fix a problem without understanding it.

[–]PeterPumpkinHead91 -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s extremely rare dude. In any event, age of consent laws are absurd.

[–]zelfone85[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah imagine having to owe child support to a woman thrice your age before you’re out of high-school...

[+]inaworldwithnonames -19 points-18 points-17 points 7 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

tbf I think genders should be considered. I would say it's wrong for a 40 year old man to sleep with a 14 year old girl but for a 14 year old boy to get to sleep with a 40 year old woman, let's get real that's every 14 year old boys dream... I remember being 14 and majority of us has already lost their virginities and were going around fucking like rabbits

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[–]PeterPumpkinHead91 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Lol, at least I’m not an ugly hypocrite who wouldn’t even know the first thing about chatting up teen babes

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[–]PeterPumpkinHead91 -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Ah, stalker of posts eh? Now I know how you spend most of your pathetic time. And the “incel” insult is so typical, it’s hilarious. But for a simple-minded fool like yourself, I’m sure that’s the best you can deliver.

[–]dogpuck 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How old is 15 really?

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Love the reference

[+]ZimbabweHeist -22 points-21 points-20 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

If I was presented the same evidence that the alleged victim was sneaking out of their house multiple times for sexual encounters I would think the same thing. No evidence was presented here that the alleged victims told her to quit contacting them and that this had to stop.

[–]SILENTSAM69 19 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is not rape in the sense that they were unwilling. It is rape in the sense that they can not legally give consent.

[–]showa_goji 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Minors can’t give consent you fucking idiot. Take your love has no age bullshit and piss off you fucking pedophile.

[–]Creator_of_OP 30 points31 points32 points 7 years ago (67 children) | Copy Link

Children cannot consent.

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[–]ProgressiveStump 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What damage is done with braces? Your comparisons are nonsense.

Two 14 year olds having sex isn't rape. If you're 18 and the other person is 16/17, isn't even rape in most states. There's usually an age difference rule that comes into play, each state is different if I remember correctly.

[–]Creator_of_OP 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I just accidentally deleted my almost complete first reply so apologies if this seems a little poor in quality, but let’s go part by part

A child cannot consent to medical procedure in California in any way until they are 15, and even then they have to be financially self sufficient. So while he might not be committing battery, the orthodontist would be breaking the law unless the parents consented.

No I don’t want birth control denied, but that doesn’t matter here. As far as I know California has no minimum age to buy or own birth control, so there you go.

Minors can be tried for crimes, but they often have a different trial compared to adults, without statutory minimums. So yes the 14 year old would be responsible, just not to the same extent as an adult I guess.

I personally don’t want anyone in jail in that circumstance, and luckily California very very rarely peruses statutory rape charges for 2 minors having sex unless there are some outstanding circumstances. However technically both would be breaking the law, California penal code 261.5 a

My comment above was in regards to the legality of what she did. Under California law minors cannot consent to sex no matter what. It is that black and white. My personal opinion doesn’t change that. However my personal opinion is that minors should generally be able to have sex with each other if they are of a close age, say 3 years, and that the age of consent should be 16. So in my personal opinion, 14&14 is okay, 14&41 not okay.

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[–]Creator_of_OP 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You’re taking me staying California laws as my own opinions. That doesn’t make sense. None of what I claimed above, except when I explicitly stated, was my opinion. Additionally, if it was lost on you, my initial statement “children cannot consent.” was in reguards to consenting to sexual activity in the state of California. Obviously children can consent to some things.

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[–]Creator_of_OP 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What exactly did you teach me?

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[+]duffmanhb -35 points-34 points-33 points 7 years ago (56 children) | Copy Link

That’s crazy, of course they can consent. These are teenagers who are well educated in sex by now, not some “child”.

[–]Creator_of_OP 14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

By definition they are both children, as they are under the age of majority, which is 18 in the state of California. It is also undeniably, unarguably rape as they are both under they age of consent in California, which is also 18. This means the mother committed statutory rape. There is literally no argument to be made, this woman raped two children.

[+]duffmanhb -11 points-10 points-9 points 7 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

Statutory rape is different than traditional rape. It’s why it has statutory tagged on. It means that while the act may not be perceived as rape by the parties, it is legally considered rape by statute. It can morally be fine and no one is harmed, it’s just that it’s considered such as act technically.

Age of consent is 14 in Sweden. I don’t think teenagers magically can consent better in Sweden than California where it’s statutorily held to 18.

That’s why it’s dishonest to claim these kids can’t consent. They obviously can and did but some states don’t like the idea of their teenagers having sex so they created statutory laws that say even though they can consent they won’t recognize it — but go ahead and drive a car

[–]Creator_of_OP 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Sure they can “consent”, but you can say the same exact thing about 13 year olds or 12 year olds or 10 year olds or 8 year olds. They can all “consent”. I admit it’s very hard to say why exactly 18 is better than 17 or 19, and why either of those is better than either side of it. We all agree there is a line, and we have to put it somewhere. I, as a California resident, think 16 would be better than 18, but that doesn’t matter here. The only objective standard to use here is the law. That’s why it’s dishonest to say these children can consent.

Age of consent in Nigeria is 11. If an 11 year old says “ I consent” they consented, so it’s all good right?

[–]duffmanhb 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well we can’t look at the law for morality as that’s often inconsistent. So just because the state of California is claiming they can’t consent doesn’t mean that they actually are incapable likewise just because Nigeria has 11 and Japan none, doesn’t mean it’s free game.

Personally I say puberty and sex Ed is all that should be required. After being capable and educated, you have the knowledge to make those decisions or not. In Netherlands people are banging as soon as they Can and with tons of partners and they aren’t plagued by a rape epidemic.

[–]Creator_of_OP 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well firstly Japan does have an age of consent, so you’re wrong there, not that it matters much.

Secondly you’re fully capable to have sex before puberty at least personally speaking as a guy. If somebody had fully educated me at age 7 would I be good to go?

Furthermore how much of a rape epidemic you have comes down quite a bit with how you quantify rape. If California’s age of consent was 15 or 14, we would only have 1 or 0 rape charges. That’s not how it works here though. The age of consent is 18, and thus there are 2 rapes. Legally, the children cannot consent, and thus legally this woman raped 2 children. Anyone can “consent” so long as they can speak or write, but that doesn’t make it okay for a 50 year old to start fucking 11 year old girls who just went through puberty.

[–]inaworldwithnonames -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

well no.. they eat dogs in China too but we can't go to McDonalds and get a German shepherd burger.

[–]Creator_of_OP 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Huh?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Fast Fact - this is America, not Sweden. There is a law and it was broken. The woman is a rapist according to the law and should be punished to the full extent. No need to split hairs here.

[–]duffmanhb 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The law is a terrible place to look for moral guidance. It’s frequently in conflict. We already know it’s a statutory violation rather than an actual violation. Hence this conversation arguing that statutory shouldn’t be deemed practical same as proper rape just because it’s a technical statutory violation.

America is Puritan and made all these dumb laws to prevent teens from banging. But now everyone is terrified of being accused of being a pervert for reasonable law reform, they let these over aggressive laws on the books.

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[–]PeterPumpkinHead91 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Age of consent is misandry.

[–]Red_Raven -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Pretty sure I'm parts of Japan the legal age is 12. So let's all just adopt that as the standard. Oh shit, in some Middle Eastern countries fucking kids isn't a crime at all so let's let the pedos go fuckin nuts!

[–]PeterPumpkinHead91 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That’s actually reasonable age of consent laws.

[–]Red_Raven 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

......which one?

[–]PeterPumpkinHead91 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Japan.

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[–]Creator_of_OP 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

“Unlawful sexual intercourse”

That is literally the statutory rape law for California. Penal code 261.5 c She is getting charged with statutory rape, along with several other things, as she committed statutory rape, as well as several other things.

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[–]Creator_of_OP 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

She’s getting charged under 261.5. 261.5 covers unlawful sexual activity with a minor, otherwise called statutory rape

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[–]systemshock869 17 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Flip the genders and see how many white knights rush in to defend the statutory rapist.

[+]Creator_of_OP -6 points-5 points-4 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Flip the genders to what, a man raping a girl? I think that’s generally much worse received than a woman raping a boy.

[–]systemshock869 13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yes that's what I mean. You won't see statutory rape apologists talking about how "it's not that bad" even though it may be true.

[–]Creator_of_OP 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ahhhh I understand. I agree with you

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree with this. If it were the other way around, everyone would be calling for his death.

[–]Tattootempest 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And unironically laughing about how they hoped he enjoyed all the rape he was going to get in prison to boot.

[–]xMcNaughtyx 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's the point. So much for equality.

Edit for clarity: I'm agreeing with you. But it SHOULD received just as badly.

[–]PeterPumpkinHead91 -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That’s not at all true. Horny teenagers beg for older men to fuck them. Want proof?

[–]Creator_of_OP 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I meant socially. Not claiming that underage girls don’t have sex with older guys

[–]PeterPumpkinHead91 -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Age of consent is misandry.

[–]Creator_of_OP 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Okay bud

[–]KGBBigAl 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

Agreed completely, “children cannot consent” sounded like a robot reply from the anti vax parents. If you’re a teenager you’re having sex. Most “kids” have sex for the first time in their teenage years.

[–]duffmanhb 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

Hell the age of consent is 14-16 in most places regardless. Yeah it’s creepy what this lady is doing, but to say these boys didn’t consent to sex is so fucking dishonest. Every day teenagers are banging.

[–]KGBBigAl 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s always creepy when you hear a teenager banging someone who’s this much older, regardless of which sex the teenager is. But if they are still consenting, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. We really should change that to 14-16 as well

[–]Creator_of_OP 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

The age of consent in California is a flat 18 years old. Also there is a massive difference between two 15 year olds have sex versus a 14 year old and a 41 year old.

[–]duffmanhb 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Sure that’s a separate issue of a creepy older lady going after teenagers. But that doesn’t magically mean oh these boys can consent to other 16 year old chicks, but when it’s a 40 year old, magically they can’t possibly make a decision to choose to do it or not.

Get out of here. That’s silly nonsense. This lady being a creep who hooked up with two teenagers who were willing, probably shouldn’t result in 17 freakin years like actual aggressive violent rapes.

It always blows me away how Puritan everyone gets when some teacher bangs her student as if it’s this grave travesty deserving of the harshest punishment. These dudes are willing volunteers.

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[–]duffmanhb 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well I definitely think there are nuanced differences between the genders, especially when it comes to how women at that age approach sex and the responsibilities they bear. There is an intuitive creepy predatory vibe when older dudes do things where the vibe is less predatory when it’s women. It’s just something people intuitively feel.

But yeah, I stand by it. If some 16 chick wants to bang some 30 year old celebrity she’s crushed on, so be it. It’s probably for the best considering she’s going to have a lot of regret sex in the coming years. It’s super common in the gay community and no one even talks about it

I just don’t think it should be inherently outlawed or treated like this grave crime and these people are helpless victims. We obviously think they are old enough to drive on the highway with other human beings so they should be able to make mistakes with their sex life if so be it. A 40 year old chick banging some 15 year old isn’t something that should be considered this massive traumatic crime.

[–]gprime 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

got the 41 year old women pregnant and she then decides for sue him for aliments when he is 18.

Just an FYI, there is legal precedent in the US and UK of statutory rape victims being subject to child support obligations while they are minors. No need to wait until he's 18 to ruin his life, even if the court found him to be a victim of statutory rape.

[–]PeterPumpkinHead91 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed.

[–]Creator_of_OP -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Would you be okay with the same woman hooking up with a 13 year old? A 12 year old? How about 11, 9 or 7? All of these people are able to “consent”, no?

[–]duffmanhb 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Education. Once they

Are educated on everything (and god help youporn already has) they should be able to consent. So I don’t know, 14 or 15? Past puberty and educated in sex.

Obviously everything exists on a spectrum. But to say two 15 year hot young boys can’t consent is just wrong.

[–]gprime 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Would you be okay with the same woman hooking up with a 13 year old? A 12 year old?

Until not terribly long ago, the answers would've been yes in Spain and Japan respectively. So at a minimum, where the age of consent should be set is less clear cut than some people want to suggest. Obviously there has to be some line, but reasonable people can disagree where that line should be drawn, and for most people California's line of 18 is too severe, at least if measured against the legal norms of the US as a whole (where a majority of states set it at 16/17) or the wider world.

[–]slaberwoki 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Teenagers are banging, in most cases, TEENAGERS. Not some predatory, grown ass woman.

[–]duffmanhb 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Still. The teenagers are consenting.

[–]slaberwoki -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

To having sex with another teen. Are you actually trying to compare a grown ass woman to teens who's brains haven't even fully developed yet?

[–]duffmanhb 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Consent is consent. If we think a teens brain can consent for sex, and drive a car at 16, if the person they are screwings age is besides the point. That’s a separate issue all together.

If a teen can consent to sex with another teen, then they can consent to an adult

[–]PeterPumpkinHead91 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, it was rape.

[–]crankyblanky 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Children are incapable of consent.

Why don't you already know this?

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[–]crankyblanky 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I've never posted a comment that went this far over someone's head. Thank you for this historic moment.

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[–]crankyblanky 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol

You sound like a pedophile dude

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_CHURROS 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You’re a fucking tard

[–]startsbadpunchains 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Paedo sympathiser detected. YOU are part of the problem of young boys being taken advantage of and having a warped view of sexuality when they are older.

[–]Fabuleusement -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Delete this. You are going to get a lot of deserved hate for the bullshit you just posted.
EDIT : Any of you dement downvoting me because they think children can consent are mentally insane and should be treated as such. A 41 man sleeping with a 14 year old would cause an uproar and rightly so

[–]ZimbabweHeist -5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Nah. I know this sub could very well be called we hate women but I apply the same standards regardless of who it is.

[–]Fabuleusement 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck you for hating women, this is not about applying same standards, "seemed consensual" sound like a rapist defense. If you truly think this is about your standards then fuck you for defending rape

[–]H1N1777 140 points141 points142 points 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

When a woman does it it’s “sex”, when a man does it, it’s rape. 🤔

[–]thelilboiwitmemes 29 points30 points31 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

So true it’s because women think they don’t have equality but yet they get out of jail before men do for rape I hope this bitch dies in jail

[–]skrimpstaxx 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

That's kinda brutal. Did she actually rape the 2 boys, or did they consent (not saying either isnt wrong, but 1 is WAY WORSE than the other). Again, I'm not defending her, but 1 is not like the other

[–]FiftyFootMidget 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If a 40 year old man had consensual sex with a 14 year old girl it would be called rape and he'd go to jail. It happens with teachers. Male teachers who do it go to jail. Female teachers get parole.

As others have said you can't consent if you're not an adult. What's the age of consent you ask? In the US between 16 and 18. Oh unless you're in the military and marry them they can be 12.

[–]ElChupacabrasSlayer 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't know why you are being downvoted. It's essentially true.

[–]SeaSickPirate4 points 7 years ago [recovered] (6 children) | Copy Link

Children of that age cannot give consent.

[–]Voxenna -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Duh, he said that.

[–]skrimpstaxx 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Thank you! What i should have said was, "Did she knock them out then rape them? Or seduce them (which they may have been able to run)". Maybe ill get downvoted, but like I said, i don't condone it AT ALL

[–]Voxenna 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yup, I agree for sure. Someone else got downvote hell for it. Both are bad, but one is much worse. It's like if an old person with dementia gave in to a thief and gave them money vs a thief beating them up and taking money by force. In both cases a demented individual can't really consent therefore it is wrong but doing it by force is worse. Best analogy I could think of. Obviously if we say 'well at least the thief didn't hurt them' it doesn't fucking mean 'well they didn't beat them up so it doesn't matter they robbed them, the thief did nothing wrong'. Obviously it's wrong. Such stupid justice boner logic. People twist others' words to find a way to be morally superior.

[–]skrimpstaxx 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well put, no worries though, I don't mind when other people get their panties in a twist. That's actually a decent analogy too, good job haha they're both wrong, but 1 is worse than the other. Did the woman rape them by force? Or did she seduce the young men? Obviously they're both morally wrong, but like, at least she didn't bash their heads in

[–]SeaSickPirate 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think what you mean is was it against their will or were they willing participants?

[–]skrimpstaxx -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's exactly what I implied, don't twist words

[–]WarmGas 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This kinda of headlines may have been true years ago, but this whole meme about role reversal hasn't been true in a long time. They use the same wording in the headlines.

[–][deleted] 107 points108 points109 points 7 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link

The word "rape" is not mentioned once in that entire article.

[–]GrizzlyLeatherBut I dindu nuffin!!! 52 points53 points54 points 7 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

Par for the course with female rape and news articles. Apparently statutory rape only exists for males.

[–]WarmGas 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This whole if the roles were reversed thing hasn't been true in a long time. both sexes get the same kind of headlines these days when it comes to these cases.

[–]GrizzlyLeatherBut I dindu nuffin!!! 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No they dont. Especially not in the same publications. I'm sure you can go find some obscure mens rights publications that give the same title to women that a man would get, but definitely not in MSM or more prominent publications.

[–]WarmGas -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Find me one example in the last year.

[–]GrizzlyLeatherBut I dindu nuffin!!! 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Here you go douche.

https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-bronx-teacher-charged-rape-student-20190530-aqcvn2hfurh2riwkssoh4omd2i-story.html

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-substitute-teacher-sex-abuse-minor-grandparents-20190619-reneduxavffolaqjgdysakagla-story.html

E: Still waiting for your response you little bitch.

[+]daft_inquisitor -20 points-19 points-18 points 7 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

I feel like statutory is its own category, though. Rape makes it sound more extreme than it was (even underage people can understand body autonomy, and it makes a difference). But then again, just "sex" is under-selling it.

[–]GrizzlyLeatherBut I dindu nuffin!!! 30 points31 points32 points 7 years ago* (17 children) | Copy Link

By definition its statutory rape because underage cannot legally consent.

The term is statutory rape.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_rape

[+]daft_inquisitor -6 points-5 points-4 points 7 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

I agree, it IS statutory rape. My issue was that you used the word 'rape' without the context of 'statutory', and I feel those are two different things. They, by definition, MEAN different things.

[–]GrizzlyLeatherBut I dindu nuffin!!! 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

I did say statutory rape. https://www.reddit.com/r/pussypassdenied/comments/c2wco4/judge_throws_out_plea_deal_that_would_have_seen/erna3gk

And statutory rape is rape.

[–]Valac_I whiteKnight for fatties -5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Statutory rape is statutory rape.

There's a difference between someone not legally being able to consent and therefore you are raping them by engaging in sexual activities.

And forcing someone into sexual intercourse.

From the article it doesn't look like the boys were forced. That doesn't make it less wrong but it's not exactly the same thing.

Context and definitions are important if we just slap the most offensive label on everything then everything is black and white and there's no in-between which only helps those people who are truly awful.

This lady whilst a criminal and definitely in the wrong on every level.

Is not the same kind of evil as a woman who say kidnapped and then raped a 15 year old boy.

Both are wrong but one is worse and we shouldn't allow the ones who are worse to hide behind those who are less evil.

[–]GrizzlyLeatherBut I dindu nuffin!!! 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Obviously theres a difference.

But statutory rape is rape. And getting all offended that I used the term rape, and then in the very next sentence further defined it as statutory rape is inane bullshit.

[+]Valac_I whiteKnight for fatties -6 points-5 points-4 points 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

So there's a difference and we have different words for it but they're the same thing?

There's a reason why we have different words they are not the same thing.

[–]GrizzlyLeatherBut I dindu nuffin!!! 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago* (11 children) | Copy Link

Holy shit you're either retarded or you didnt read a single word I wrote.

[–]DelicateLilSnowflake 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I am just surprised it doesn’t say “Strong independent empowered queen who knows what she wants and how to get it gets wild and frisky with young boys!”

[–]WarmGas 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because it isn't rape... Sexual misconduct with a minor? Most definitely. I guess there is "statutory rape", but we shouldn't be associating the word rape with these cases. No matter who the accused is male or female...

[–]MonstersBeThere 110 points111 points112 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Hopefully she serves every second of that 17 years.

[–]HWGA_Gallifrey 73 points74 points75 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Out in two years and three years formal probation tops. Calling it now.

[–]ProgressiveStump 28 points29 points30 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep, because female. That doesn't make it right but unfortunately I think you nailed it.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I doubt that will happen. Maybe 5 years then out on good behavior, spend the rest of the time one probation. Drug charges do more time then these type of people.

[–]BlasphemousToenail 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She hasn’t even had her trial yet. That 17 years is the max she faces:

“Lytle, who is currently free on a $550,000 bond, is scheduled to return to court on July 24 to set a date for her trial. If convicted of all the charges, she faces up to 17 years in state prison, said a spokesperson for the Tulare County District Attorney.”

She could still walk.

[–]Thatsyourissue 72 points73 points74 points 7 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

Loses husband and kids and freedom because she is a whore

[–]ProgressiveStump 37 points38 points39 points 7 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

A trashy, whore pedophile.

[–]Valac_I whiteKnight for fatties 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (17 children) | Copy Link

Not a pedophile.

Pedophiles have sex with young children..

I'm not saying what she did was ok it wasn't but let's not let the real pedophiles hide behind people who fucked a 14-15 yearold.

There's a huge difference between raping teenager and raping a 5 yearold.

They are both criminals but one is a much greater evil.

Edit: people seem to think I'm giving out passes here I'm not.

I see pedophiles as supremely evil on the same level I see serial killers supremely evil.

This isn't the same as a 30 yearold touching a 5 yearold... There's a difference.

Do not let actual monsters have anywhere to hide. There needs to be a very clear distinction.

[–]timtheringityding 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I am sorry what? A 14-15 year old is still a child. Fuck I am 23 and when I was 16 I was still doing dumb childish thing and had no idea the shit I did had consequences

[–]gprime 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I am sorry what? A 14-15 year old is still a child.

Minor and child are not synonymous terms, so he is right to draw the distinction that he did. Pedophiles are sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children. Hebephiles are primarily attracted to individuals who are early on in pubescence, and Ephebophiles are primarily attracted to mid-to-late adolescent individuals who are in late puberty or who have finished puberty. So if this woman if sleeping with 15 and 16 year old males, she falls into that last category. She unquestionably broke California law, and so fairness dictates that she be punished following a proper trial, but her actions are those that would be legal in large portions of the developed world.

[–]Valac_I whiteKnight for fatties 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

It's not the same thing.

Didn't condone her actions at all.

Quite literally said it was wrong and it is.

And can be emotionally scarring and traumatic for those boys.

But it's not the same thing as a pedophile.

If you beat someone up it's not same as if you're a serial killer.

These are two totally different levels of evil.

[–]ProgressiveStump 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

If it had been a male her age, having sex with a 14 year old female, nobody would hesitate to call him a pedophile. When the role is reversed, I don't understand why she gets a free pass.

[–]Valac_I whiteKnight for fatties 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't call him a pedophile either.

I'm not giving anyone a pass here this is wrong both morally and legally.

I'm saying this is not as bad as someone who sexually assaults actually children not teenagers real children the kind that still play make believe with their toys outside.

Those people are true honest to God monsters.
and do not deserve to be looped in with people that anyone no matter how wrong they are. could view as less evil than absolute.

Pedophiles are disgusting filth that should be erased from the world.

These people should be imprisoned in accordance with the law and shunned for their actions by society.

But they are not the same level of fucking evil as pedophiles. And to label them as such is a kindness to pedophiles.

[–]Boywithpants -4 points-3 points-2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

K pedo. Stay away from children pls

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hello, fucking idiot that does not understand the concept of nuance. In Mexico 12 is the age of legal consent. There are countries where they have decided 15-16 is legal age. We decided on 18. There is no basis for any of these distinctions other than gut feelings and vague ideas about puberty.

[–]Valac_I whiteKnight for fatties 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You clearly didn't read what I said.

[–]skrimpstaxx 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Get off your high horse and learn to read

Edit: also, BOY, keep your pants on, schools out, shoulda known the edgy teens are in full force today

[–]survivalmaster69 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Like qhat

[–]u-had-it-coming 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Words were created for a reason. Just because people are American here and their schools are costly coz which they are illiterate doesn't mean they get a free pass of using the word pedophile everywhere.

A 25 yr banging a 18yr old is also a pedophile according to these dumb uneducated Americans

[–]BlasphemousToenail 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Reddit hates “definition Nazis” almost as much as they hate hebephilia

Edit: shit, I think I meant Ephebophilia.

[–]WikiTextBot -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hebephilia

Hebephilia is the strong, persistent sexual interest by adults in pubescent (early adolescent) children (especially those showing Tanner stages 2-3 of development), which is typically ages 11–14. It differs from pedophilia (the primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children), and from ephebophilia (the primary sexual interest in later adolescents, typically ages 15–19). While individuals with a sexual preference for adults may have some sexual interest in pubescent-aged individuals, researchers and clinical diagnoses have proposed that hebephilia is characterized by a sexual preference for pubescent rather than adult partners.Hebephilia is approximate in its age range because the onset and completion of puberty vary. On average, girls begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11 while boys begin at age 11 or 12.


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[–]WarmGas 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

About time we finally get people like you spreading the truth about what the fuck words mean. Getting sick of fighting this battle on my own.

[–]Valac_I whiteKnight for fatties 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a difficult and often times seemingly hopeless fight.

But an important one.

If we start associating pedophiles with people who are guilty of statutory rape then they are allowed to hide in obscurity.

When people say pedophile they shouldn't need to question if a person is a monster or something far less evil like a 22 yearold fornicating with a 17 year old.

So it definitely gets bothersome trying to get people to use correct terms when no one seems to care.

But if the word becomes over used and slapped on anyone. Then monsters will be able to hide in plain sight and simply shrug off the fact they're on lists so that people know what they are.

[–]terobiter 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for pointing this out, it’s such a chore to correct misguided people.

[–]theterptroll 44 points45 points46 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Honestly, if the genders were reversed, and a man asked for this leniency, hell would break loose. Also, I hear her husband filed for divorce; she better NOT get half of his shit since she decides to blow their marriage. She definitely needs to serve the full sentence. No mercy.

[–]DelicateLilSnowflake 17 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Because of no-fault divorce laws, it won’t make a difference what she did to cause the divorce. She is still legally entitled to all the same cash prizes all women get when they divorce.

[–]theterptroll 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

At least the husband won't have to worry about custody issues. She'll (hopefully) be in prison so he'll get the kids by default. So all that's left is the split of marital assets.

[–]DelicateLilSnowflake 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

True. Otherwise she would automatically be given custody of his children.

[–]theterptroll 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hopefully some of her share of the settlement can count towards supporting the children, in the event that she is incarcerated.

[–][deleted] 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]theterptroll 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

At least he gets custody while she's (hopefully) rotting in prison. They have 4 kids I believe.

[–]Reggiess-5 points 7 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but this shit is fetishized, young boys having sex with older women. They had probably already seen porn and fantasized about this very thing. At 15 a lot of kids have already lost their virginity, it’s not rape in the standard, forceful sense, just statutory. You guys are the same type that believe men and women have significant biological differences. Why doesn’t that come into play in this argument?

[–]sourkid25 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Because you're an idiot that's why

[–]Mrhipposause 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is. I Woulda loved for this shit to happen to me as a teenager

I had a family friend get drunk at a 4th of July party my parents had decades ago and the 40 year old milf grabbed my ass(I’m talking like grabbed my ass and held it for a good second) and called me “delicious” at 16 years old.

Thats is as close as I got though to this “situation” but I never once thought “This makes me feel bad”. All it did was give me the biggest fucking ego boost, knowing that an older woman “lusted” after me lol

[–]winningwinningshekel 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Do wamens get raped in jail like in male prisons?

[–]FakeFile 23 points24 points25 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hmmmm im just picturing pillow fights and orgies.

[–]ZimbabweHeist 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

According to Orange is the New Black that's pretty much it.

[–]DelicateLilSnowflake 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They get scissored by Mr. Garrison.

[–]Valac_I whiteKnight for fatties 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've heard it's actually worse.

Since it's not about sexual gratification.

It's an anger and torture thing.

So they use mop handles and broken bottles.

But that's just what I know from a half remembered TV show interview.

[–]palma-dutch -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hopefully

[–]Dawgs000 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How about hopefully not? You want people to get raped? I certainly don't.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So what, she was watching tons of porn and thought, "You know I bet I could play out some of this for real?"

[–]KarmaticEvolution 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well it looks like she did to some degree, just got caught.

[–]matrixislife 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

21 felony counts: [the plea deal] would have seen her walk away from her charges with one year in county jail, five years probation, and a suspended six-year sentence.

Admitted I'm not American, so maybe felony means something different to what I thought, apparently it means "not a big deal, nothing much" according to the previous judge and the lawyer?

[–]KhaosOvForm5 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm not gonna be a hypocrite and pretend I have passed up the opportunity to have sex at 14. Sexual content was and still is broadcasted through many mediums and teenagers soak it in. Do you know how many songs and tv shows containing sexual themes and images are accesible to teens? I knew what sex was by age 12 and I grew up when the internet was just taking off. And with the way technology has come and how easy it is to access pornography I imagine kids are finding out about this stuff from a younger age.

I find it funny when adults are shocked about teen sex, it's alot more common than you think. I'm not saying it's ok or a good thing because it is not. But it happens and there's not much parents can do about it. Parents can try to educate their children about the negative outcomes from teen sex, more commonly pregnancy and std's. They also can monitor who their kids speak to at home or online, but keep in mind that you're not with your kids 24/7. So all you can hope for is that your teen says "no" when sex is introduced.

But to sleep with your own daughter's boyfriend? Holy shit! This is the shit you see on pornhub and Jerry Springer. It is twisted and wrong on so many levels. Imagine how much that can fuck with that kid's head. Shame on her.

[–]theflyingpupusa 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ditto by 15 I was regularly having sex with the gf. Would get rubbers from the school science teacher. By 17 I was def looking to land older women

[–]KhaosOvForm5 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. My high school soccer/football coach who was also the Physical Education teacher gave out rough riders to the guys on the team because he knew we were already active and it was best to protect ourselves.

[–]WilliamBott 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Why the fuck do all these articles where the woman is the rapist say "had sex with"? If a 41-year-old man did that with a 14 or 15-year-old girl, it's RAPE.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah and he would’ve had his ass thrown in jail for life before he could say Hokey Pokey and everyone would sign a petition to get him castrated.

[–]goldenmom1 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If someone did this to my son I'd make sure she was accused of rape.

[–]buddboy 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

An actual pussy pass denied. What this sub is supposed to be about

[–]DogMechanic 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What the fuck is up in Tulare county? There is so much of this going on. There's been several teachers busted and one is still awaiting trail 3 years later. He's got victims going back 20 years

[–]ghunt81 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow I went to the article and there was an ad in the middle of it for Ashley Madison...

[–]Sean-Mcgregor 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The daughter had 2 boyfriends?

[–]goldenmom1 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

She had two daughters and they each had a boyfriend

[–]Sean-Mcgregor 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ahh i was wondering

[–]Sean-Mcgregor 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I just read it wrong

[–]Tattootempest 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The court records also stated that the 41-year-old sent the teens nude photos of herself, something she admitted to doing to apparently cope with the death of her sister and her low self-esteem.

My sister died, time to fuck my daughters boyfriends!

[–]human_machine 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But the porno clearly suggested this was morally and legally OK your honor!

[–]Content_Not_History 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why didn't they use the word "rape"?

[–]CheapGodiva1 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Finally, real pussy pass denial

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She wasn't denied. She got what she needed and then was penalized...… My view as a teenager: "I'd hit that".

[–]goldenmom1 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If this was a man he would never be let out. No plea deal just life in prison.

[–]TheOneTruBob 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The trial took a dramatic turn when the two victims arrived in court humming "Stacy's Mom"

[–]PeterPumpkinHead91 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Guess she couldn’t cry her way into a good deal after all!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hope she enjoys prison. I love how white knights will still run to her rescue.

[–]russian_troll007 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In all fairness: the judge that rejected the motion is Judge Juliet Boccone, a woman so .. she should be applauded for her decision not letting a rapist walk with a slap on the hand

[–]Murdocs_Mistress 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good. I'm glad a judge is taking this seriously. She needs to serve time.

[–]L0liKy0Nyu 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Great judge

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The court records also stated that the 41-year-old sent the teens nude photos of herself, something she admitted to doing to apparently cope with the death of her sister and her low self-esteem.

Yea right

[–]DieselOrWorthless 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ingrates. Literally getting blessed with pussy and they tellin.

Couldnt care less what anyone thinks: I was legally driving cars by myself at 15 and if you think I wouldn't have known what I was doing, fucking my gf's mom, you're high as a kite.

[–]BullTopia 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow, she fucked two different dudes in a few days, fucked herself, her daughters, fucked over her husband AND her own family.

Talk about going scorched earth.

[–]BatmanSays5 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not enough affluenza.

[–]Anon_64 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago* (14 children) | Copy Link

When I was 14 I had a smoking hot 30something neighbor. She was always nice and I really liked her. Apparently her husband left her for an other woman one day. She was completely broken. Stopped taking care of herself, stopped jogging, and even stopped walking her dog.

I had recently watched this movie on Lifetime about a guy who took advantage of women’s mental states in order to have sex with them. Lightbulb. The only girl I had sex with at that point was my age and it was nothing like all the porn I had seen. So I decided to give it a shot.

I went over and asked if I could walk her dog. She offered to pay me. I told her “my dad told me never to accept money from a beautiful woman”. She seemed to like that. This went on for a few weeks. I’d walk her dog, chat with her for a while. Tell her how beautiful she was and what an idiot her husband is.

She started to take care of herself again and even went back to jogging. But she wasn’t putting the moves on me like I hoped. So one day I went for it and kissed her. I was pretty excited when she kissed me back. The next 6 months were amazing. We were doing all the things I had seen in porn plus more.

One weekend I told my parents I was going camping with friends, but we spent 3 whole days naked at her cabin on a lake. Eventually she ditched me and started dating someone her own age. I was pretty bummed at first but I just had the best 6 months of my life up to that point so I got over it pretty quick.

I came up with and executed a plan to exploit a woman’s broken mental state. Some might call me an asshole. But I wasn’t. Because I was only 14. She took advantage of my impressionable little mind which was incapable of consent and didn’t know what it was doing. I was raped. To this day, this is one of the fondest memories of my youth. I’m sure the same can be said of these boys this woman “raped”.

[–]RBeck 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I see what you're saying but the law shouldn't discriminate by gender.

The reason why we don't let adults and children date is only partly about sex, it's also a huge power imbalance. On one hand you have a person with money, a car, knows the ways of the world, and has all the control. On the other you have a child. The power imbalance is too easy for the adult to manipulate the other, get them to do things they don't want to do just to please their meal ticket.

[–]Anon_64 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

You know that happens with adults literally every single day, right?

Edit: you know what? I was wrong. There are no stay at home moms trapped with nowhere to go because their husband is the sole breadwinner and they have no money of their own.

And since this never happens it’s not like men could take advantage of this and abuse their wives knowing they can’t leave. So your downvotes are appropriate.

[–]RBeck 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's certainly true! Many people's situation makes them easy to manipulate or get stuck in an abusive relationship. I certainly wouldn't subject children to that just because a few might like it.

[–]Anon_64 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No one should be subjected to that. Not just children.

[–]matrixislife 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Fair comment, but what do you say to those schoolgirls who say they have fallen in love with their teacher and that they are totally happy with their relationship?

Best to have 1 rule that everyone understands that prevents the possibility of abuse.

[–]Anon_64 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

I think childhood is a mentality. Not a number. I think there are people older than 30 who lack the mental capacity to process the complexities of emotions that come with a sexual relationship. I think there are people younger than 18 who can.

You know there are first world countries who have a legal age of consent as young as 14. Even in the USA, the age varies from state to state. So I think we shouldn’t be so quick to judge someone as a disgusting rapist for engaging in what may very well have been a consensual relationship.

[–]ArchiCooper -4 points-3 points-2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

R Kelly?

[–]Anon_64 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Like I said, childhood is a mentality. And celebrities have more influence over the impressionable than anyone else. So if you’re using that to take advantage of someone who lacks the mental capacity to know better, you’re a piece of shit whether that person was of age or not.

[–]miketech18 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sounds like you dont have kids. If you did you wouldn't want some 40yr old banging your teenager.

[–]Anon_64 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn’t want my kids banging anyone to be honest. But I couldn’t fault them for wanting to do the same things that I did at that age. And I certainly wouldn’t act like they were too stupid to know better.

[–]calvarez 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yours ended well. Or, it seems to, because I can't know whether you have lasting changes in your psychology because of what this woman/relationship may have done to you. In any case, many other similar relationships have gone poorly, mainly because of the power and wisdom imbalance. There was a story here on Reddit a couple years ago about a guy who killed himself at 17 because his older woman girlfriend was unable to understand his feelings and needs. Yes, that can also happen in any relationship. We set some type of standards to try to minimize the risk.

[–]Anon_64 -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Much of the preferences and knowledge I gained during that time carry over to who am I am now. About a year after my experience, a 15 year old classmate killed himself because his 14 year old girlfriend broke up with him. They never had sex.

I think some people are prone to mental instability. And something is going to push them over the edge. It’s easy to blame it on the one thing that sticks out. But who’s to say it wouldn’t have been something else if that one thing was never there?

Instead of looking for something to point our fingers at, we should strive to be more informed about the signs of declining mental health and what steps we can take to help.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

yes, your magic 14 year old dick cured her. you write ridiculous porn fantasies

[–]Anon_64 -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It wasn’t my dick that cured her. It was my companionship. If you ever had a companion, you would have understood that without it needing to be explained to you.

[–]e7IDestiny 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The perks of having a pussy,this hoe should have been thrown in jail for good,just goes to show how much this world actually care about males,they dont even care about male kids when a woman is in the mix,pathetic.

[–]Why_am_ialive 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bit incelly and msygonistic there big guy, the post is an example of the woman being punished appropriately and your crying she’s not...

[–]DovaaahhhK 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (22 children) | Copy Link

Devil's Advocate here and I know I'm going to get shit for this. Yes, I understand that these boys were underage and that having sex with children is obviously illegal. But I don't understand all these pitchforks around this. Nowhere in the article says that these boys were not forced to do anything they didn't want to do. I hope her life falls apart because of this, but the blame isn't completely on her. These boys willfully met up with her multiple times and even sneaked (snuck?) out of their houses to meet up with her and fuck her.

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Nobody needs to explain the whole "If the roles were reversed you wouldn't be making this comment" statement. I get that it's having sex with children is disgusting but these children were willfully having sex with an adult as well. Seemed like this was completely consensual.

[–]dancing_in_twilight 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I don't intend to give you shit on this as I completely see what you are getting at. I just want to ask a question with a little different context with hope it brings some light.

I think the general idea is these are underage children regardless of there reproductive parts.

Here is the question :

If these were underage females that were sneaking out with a man the same age and were "cool" would your feelings be the same?

They may very well be as it's a personal decision in ways but often times we say things like manipulated or naived or coerced for younger females but boys know what they are doing and therefore less responsibility on the adult.

Just another way to look at it. For me it's about treating adults like adults and protecting kids regardless of their sex. This isn't intended to be a knock on you just an indication of my beliefs when I read these type of stories.

[–]DovaaahhhK -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I understand the age of consent is 18 by law but there are definitely children younger than that who are of sound mind to make decisions that are considered "adult."

The woman involved is definitely at fault here and deserves her punishment, but these boys knew exactly what they were doing because they did it multiple times. A victim wouldn't sneak out at night and meet up with their rapist to get raped multiple times.

[–]dancing_in_twilight 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, a victim would sneak out. The boys did know exactly what they were doing doesn't mean they aren't victims.

If she was selling them drugs.... They also would know exactly what they were doing doesn't take away from the fact an adult shouldn't pave a clear path. If she was stealing their identity they'd still be victims even if they willingly gave her the information.

On the other side yes the boys need to understand action and consequences. STD's, pregnancy, stranger danger and all that stuff. Education and counseling I hope is abundant in their lives.

I get what you're say and understand you're not defending the sexual predictor here. 14 or 15 year olds are old enough to know what is going on at the moment but I don't think they get the repercussions of the long haul. Hell some adults don't either I guess now that I say that "out loud" lol.

Anyway good chatting with you I may not be right on this point just the angle I see it at... Appreciate you opening the discussion much love and peace for you and yours.

[–]DovaaahhhK -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I completely understand where you're coming from. It's just interesting to me to see other people's point of view. I don't necessarily believe everything that I said, but I can understand how somebody might think that way. I always try to keep an open mind and try to view things from several different angles. Good discussions that don't spiral into ignorance are a rare commodity these days. Thanks for that.

[–]gidanbo 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Consent doesnt exist with boys or kids under 18. The whole reason we have these laws is the prevent children from makinf that desicion themselves and fucking them up for the rest of there lives.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

consent laws vary. 18 is not universal

[–]gidanbo 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In my state its 18 and in america its as low as 16. Hopefully you dont beleive it should be any lower than that.

[–]Gant111 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Consent does exist between two minors.

[–]gidanbo 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thats not what were talking about but thanks anyway friend.

[–]serverwhisperer -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I don't think the commenter meant the legal definition of consent. They meant that they weren't forced or coerced into it. The dictionary definition.

[–]gidanbo 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Children cant willfully have sex with an adult. We dont let children make desicions like that becuase there kids thats all im saying.

[–]serverwhisperer -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

We dont let children make desicions like that...

I know LEGALLY we don't, that why I pointed out the dictionary definition. Let me pose this question to you then. You wouldn't see any difference between someone actively manipulating a minor and/or forcing them to have sex versus a minor wanting to having sex with an adult? To you, both those "rapes" are equal?

[–]gidanbo 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Thats not what im saying. Im saying that question you jist asked me is irrelevant.

[–]serverwhisperer 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

My whole point really is that I believe if nobody was harmed by what this woman did, why does she deserve a harsh sentence? What if the boys she had sex with now feel guilty for her getting locked up? I think that would weigh on my conscience a LOT more than the fact that I had sex with an older woman.

[–]gidanbo 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thats what you think. You also dont know the full story and the standards arent the same for girls. You dont know how those kids feel so the best you or me and do is assume. I beleive minors shouldnt have sex with adults. Adults are held responsible becuase they are adults lol.

[–]gidanbo 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I get they werent forced. Im not talking about that.

[–]WarmGas 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But I don't understand all these pitchforks around this.

Most people on this subreddit literally hate woman. It's like a lite incel community around here. The kind of posts we should be praising around here are woman getting jailed for false rape accusations and shit. Not for them doing something that nearly everyone one of us would have wished for the chance of when we were younger.

[+]froggert4563 -8 points-7 points-6 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

She warped their fragile undeveloped little minds with sex. They will now grow up impure and want to have sex with other people too. Damaged goods man.

[–]DovaaahhhK -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

What the fuck? Your entire comment has me completely awe struck by it's stupidity. Are you some super religious nut that thinks sex is impure and makes people damaged goods? I was looking for a decent conversation about this topic, not some psychotic babbling from somebody who obviously has a few screws loose.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think your sarcasm detector is broken

[–]DovaaahhhK -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You do realize that sarcasm doesn't translate over text properly? I'm sure you also realize that people actually have the point of view that your message conveys. Also, use /s

I've seen some crazy comments on Reddit, especially on controversial or polarizing topics and I'm sure you have too.

[–]serverwhisperer -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude... They were agreeing with you using sarcasm...

[–]trucknut_76 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But an illegal shoots a woman dead in her home and no jail time, only on California smh

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[–]born2discover 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How are her two daughters sluts? If you read carefully, the apostrophe is after S in daughters. It means she has at least two daughters, each had a boyfriend, the mother slept with both.

The mother being a pedophile whore sounds about right, but nothing in the article suggests her young girls are sluts.

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[–]ducksahead2 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So when I was 16 this woman that I did yard work for offered me sex she was 68 and I had the time of my life lol and got paid for it also committed rape?? Is hard to rape a man, teenager

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

thats gross

[–]Boywithpants -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

K.

[–]Rustler0fJimmies 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"You're trying to seduce me, Mrs. Robinson."

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Now I can tell people I watch documentaries.

[–]ineedtotakeashit 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Poor boys it’s terrifying they have to experience such a thing

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What pussy fucker runs and tells when he bangs the girlfriend's mom? These two BOYS need their man card torn in half. Pathetic. This was a story they could share for years, but they fucked it up.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice.

[–]drpepper02 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Has she hit the wall that bad that she has to go after teenage boys?

[–]CoolHeadedHermit -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

this shouldnt be a crime. neither should it be a crime if the genders were flipped. 14 is the age of consent in most of western europe. tbh, age of consent should be 13 (or maybe even younger).

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[–]CoolHeadedHermit -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

yeah well not everyone lives in prudish sex-straved backwards america

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[–]CoolHeadedHermit -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

it doesnt matter if they are "mature enough". what only matters if they wanted to do it at that moment.

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[–]CoolHeadedHermit 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

so anyone who has a differing opinion to you is a troll. do you understand the age of consent in germany is 14? the world doesnt revolve around america. try to think outside your american bubble for once.

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[–]CoolHeadedHermit -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Many people would argue 14 is a very young age for consent. That said, you're arguing for 13 and younger, so that's irrelevant.

Oh please. 13 is one year or less than 14.

Don't understand? Take a look at the countless victims of pedophilia. Many of these children are lured by predators, agree and not uncommonly WANT to have relations with them, but suffer from the physical and mental damage which this causes for the rest of their lives.

Yeah, so? And many whores regret who they fucked the last night. Regret isn't rape.

[–]ThumbMuscles 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is when the child doesn't cognitively understand the potential consequences. Prostitution is another topic, but that's often for money. Of course regret is common for these folk. The key difference is that they understand the risks and take them anyway.

13 is one year younger yes, but when you're a child this is massive. Especially since you've said 13 and younger.

I'd encourage you to interact with more children and determine for yourself if they're truly capable of consenting to sex with an adult, but I think that could be dangerous.

If you look at the edit in my previous comment there's some information you might find interesting.

But I'm done speaking with you now, I have things to do.

Best

[–]WarmGas 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Age of consent in almost the entire rest of the world is like 14/15 in most places, 16 everywhere else. It's fucking Americans and their strange culture around sex.

[–]Mickey_likes_dags 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Roy Moore? Is that you?

[–]yodarded -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

one of the problems with law is that criminals worm their way out if it isn't specific enough.

i.e. "sex with children is a felony" isn't specific enough. So different states put age 16, 17, 18 down in the law. Now there's no arguing about age.

My problem with this mechanism is that its not realistic to believe that a girl who is ready to hookup with a 30 year old she meat at a bar on her 18th birthday is just having fun, but if shes 17.99 years old she's not old enough to make that decision so we categorize it as rape.

One way to fix this is to stop calling everything rape. It would be better for everyone if we used rape for the knife-to-the-throat stranger encounter, a different term for someone who violates a child under 13, a third term for someone who failed to stop when consent ended, and a fourth term for a willing minor participant who is within 3 years of 18 but can't legally consent.

We should also have a realistic sliding scale for this fourth category of people between 15 and 18. For instance, its a misdemeanor if the minor is within 6 months of 18. Otherwise, its a felony, and sentencing should reflect the age, such as "(17.5 minus the age of the minor) times 3" or something, i dont know. It would depend on how much someone would expect to serve for a given sentence. A 30 year old who has consensual sex with a 17 year old would receive a felony and a sentence of 18 months. They probably serve less, but having a felony and losing your job sucks, so it seems like a fair punishment. If the minor is 15, regardless of whatever laws are on the books, that's clearly a more significant violation of the social contract we all live under, and the penalty would be a sentence of 7.5 years. As I understand it, they would serve about 3 years then. anyway, the formula might be off, but the idea is that it scales, with real jail time that grows.

[–]AramisNight -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

There is a lot of discussion about the moral wrongdoing vs penalty in regards to whether or not the young boys were victims or not. What is undeniable to me however is that the daughters were clearly victims here. To have your own mother betray you on top of your SO at that age is going to leave behind some serious damage on these girls. I can't help but feel pretty bad for them. And for their sake, i do hope the mothers penalty is harsh.
It's a sad world where an internet stranger has more empathy for them, than their own mother.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

yea lets feel worse for her daughters than the actual victims

[–]WildZero7 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The only real victim I see is the husband poor guy got played by a hoe and a horny teen.

[–]AramisNight 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't notice that she was married. I guess in my mind i assumed it was a single mother and somehow overlooked that. I feel terrible for him as well.

[–]AramisNight 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Considering the daughters had no choice in this, i do consider their victim hood to be a bit greater. Same with the husband. The teenage boys were taken advantage of to an extent, but the fact that they were fine with banging their gf's mom, when they had gf's dims their halo's a bit in my estimation. I accept that the majority of the responsibility falls on the mother, it doesn't absolve the boys completely of some moral responsibility since they were also betraying their relationships. I don't accept this idea that expecting teenagers to exercise some level of conscience is somehow beyond the pale.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

so hot

[–]Virtual_Realization -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Im a believer in the double standard. It'd be much worse if it was a dude and teenage daughters and thats how it should be

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

why

[–]Virtual_Realization 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because women and sex is way more meaningful especially at younger ages. Most Men dont give a fuck they just want a hole to stick it in where as women are more emotionally involved so an older dude taking advantage of a girls emotions is taking a lot more than just there body

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