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[–]Ant_Sucks 2791 points2792 points2793 points 7 years ago (137 children) | Copy Link
500 because women won't learn how to negotiate.
[–]Sixemperor 1686 points1687 points1688 points 7 years ago (135 children) | Copy Link
550 because the wage gap is a myth
[–][deleted] 1198 points1199 points1200 points 7 years ago (76 children) | Copy Link
600 because she used the wrong false statistic
[–]RandomlyThoughtName 836 points837 points838 points 7 years ago (67 children) | Copy Link
650 because Karen took the kids and wont give em back.
[–]SmugsMostHated 870 points871 points872 points 7 years ago (63 children) | Copy Link
700 for the fake rape accusation when you meet her for trade.
[–]nuclearguacamole 618 points619 points620 points 7 years ago (61 children) | Copy Link
750 for the cafe that charged extra to men and then went out of business
[–]Primecyborg 513 points514 points515 points 7 years ago (59 children) | Copy Link
800 because women pay less for car insurance.
[–][deleted] 476 points477 points478 points 7 years ago (53 children) | Copy Link
850 cause Keanu Reeves is a man
[–]lonewolf2683 470 points471 points472 points 7 years ago (51 children) | Copy Link
900 because women aren't required to register for the draft.
[–]Nis_law351 points 7 years ago [recovered] (49 children) | Copy Link
950 because we wanna show some toxic masculinity
[–]billderpman444 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They are now
[–]Justgiz 79 points80 points81 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
850 cause Keanu Reeves is the man
FTFY
[–]KinG_Burly 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Also true af. Men tend to drive into other moving objects , where as women tend to hit more stationary objects...
[–]maximun_vader -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
I take issue with this statistic. They pay less because they have less accidents. Thats a win for the women, or a fail for the men. They earned paying less, or we deserve to pay more
edit: why am I getting downvoted? because I say something negative about men? is this becoming a women-hating subreddit?
[–]rushkabab 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
That’s not actually true, it’s just gender stereotyping. You can’t label an entire sex as safer drivers.
[–]maximun_vader 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That’s not actually true, it’s just gender stereotyping. You can’t label an entire sex as safer drivers
> says it's not actually true
> it is actually true
just look for accidents per driven mile. If you are gonna put your money on a random stranger having a car accident, your bet is safer in an average man than an average woman
"Institute for Highway Safety: Based on miles traveled, men died at a rate of 2.5 deaths per 100million miles traveled, vs. 1.7 deaths for women "
[–]KinG_Burly 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not sure if you have read the story on that place. The owners said they did not make men pay the extra fee but they would without argueing. The extra charge didnt go to the business but to womens shelters. Pretty interesting read.
[–]2ndLargestHam 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Always meet in a public place like the police station. Cameras everywhere! Dont get trapped
[–][deleted] 33 points34 points35 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
r/fuckyoukaren
[–]Jugrnot8 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
my favorite! lol
[–]Sinborn 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
666 because men are the literal devil
[+]THENordsdale -119 points-118 points-117 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Dumbass
[–]Old_Man_Obvious 33 points34 points35 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Maybe if women stopped working as secretaries and teachers they’d make more money? There’s a “wage gap” simply because there are more women in less paying jobs. you don’t see many female executives or bosses or buisness owners, do you?
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And their babies and whatnot.
I don't feel for them. Having a child is a major decision.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I mean you do just a lot less of em.
[–]CrippledCuntPunch 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Well, he did say you don't see many, so...
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I didn't see the "many" shhhh
[–]CrippledCuntPunch 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
lmao
[–]Sindoray 105 points106 points107 points 7 years ago (52 children) | Copy Link
It’s not a myth. If you work less, you earn less over a period of a year. It’s a fact. Talking about facts, women under the age of 30 earn 8% more than men.
[–]serpentri 152 points153 points154 points 7 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
The "30% less payment for the exact same job" statement is a myth.
[–]Sindoray 36 points37 points38 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You can have the same job, but if you work less hours a week, you earn less at the end of the week. This part isn’t calculated in their arguments, which makes the whole thing flawed at best.
[–]LiveTheTruth321 13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
It amazes me how some people don't understand that. Unbelievable.
[–]Kylar_Stern 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It doesn't amaze me that people don't understand it. It amazes me that so many people don't understand.
[–]Crumps_brother 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I watched a segment on the news about the wage gap and they had a woman from some university on there. She goes, "No matter how you slice it, there's no reason why a woman should be making less than a man." Two seconds later she continues to say that woman are less likely to work overtime and take time off work to raise a family. She had some numbers in there but that's basically what she said. THAT'S why people believe it.
[–]munsking 20 points21 points22 points 7 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
usually they mean "same job title" when they say "exact same job". still ignoring working hours, voluntary overtime, time off for being pregnant, giving birth and taking care of the baby for some time (2 years where i live).
[–]mutecoyote 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Women also tend to be more likely to go to the doctor or dentist. They're typically the main caregivers so they are the ones who have to take time off should the child need it.
[–]munsking -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
i don't know where you get the "more likely to go to the doctor or dentist" part from? i go to the doctor more often as my wife to be.
the caregiver thing is obviously true though
[–]mutecoyote 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
There's been a few studies done on it. I don't know how to do fun links on Reddit but a quick Google pops up a few articles.
[–]Selrisitai 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
CTRL+K
[–]munsking -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
interesting, i'll have a look.
what do you mean by fun links? this? it's pretty easy on desktop, just select some text and click the link icon and enter the link in the popup window
[–]Selrisitai 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
It's called a hyperlink.
[–]Selrisitai 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm the exact opposite and every man I have ever personally known has been reluctant to go to the hospital and usually only goes when he breaks something or cuts something off. Just ask around. Men tend to be reluctant to go to the doctor.
[–]munsking 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
most people i know are, it's really odd since it's free here, if you ask the right thing at the reception you get a day off of work as well (paid).
when i was a ski instructor i had co-workers, both male and female, really hurt themselves and refuse to go to a doctor for some reason.
at my current job everyone just waits for an excuse to go to the doctor, i blame that on the bosses lol
[–]Jugrnot8 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I've always seem women move up career ladder faster bc well they are women.
[–]Sindoray 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not only that, they also get hired/accepted easier/faster and with much lower requirements. Some complain that they aren't taken seriously in meetings and other stuff. I'm currently 29, and I just barely qualify (after proving a lot) for having an opinion in the company I work at. Still, it's a small company, so ye, that's much easier. 1.5 years ago when I asked a question, or had a suggestion, I was told that i should shut the fuck up and execute tasks. Suggestions and opinions are for those are have the experience. I was 27 ffs.
Yet some early 20 women complain about not being listened to by a professor, or some high ranking person, or not being taken seriously. Some think that once you get out of college, CEO's should instantly value your opinion as god's words.
[–]1_Am_Providence 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
I’m not debating you, just genuinely curious, but do you have a source for your latter statement?
[–]Amsnerr 136 points137 points138 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
He may not have a source for that, but I do, and then some.
Women earn 77 cents to a man's dollar.
That statistic is simply the difference between average earnings of all men and all women, working full-time.
It does not account for differences in occupation, position, education, job tenure or hours worked.
The average man spends 14% more time at work.
He's 9 times more likely to die there.
Men choose the highest-paid specialties.
Four of the five highest-paid college majors are filled with more men than women.
Four of the five lowest-paid college majors are filled with more women than men.
Young, childless women age 22-30, outearn young childless men bu 8%.
Among workers who have never been married and never had children, women earn 117% what men do.
76% suicides are men.
85% of homeless are men.
70% of homicide victims are men.
Men are majority of victims of violent crime.
Men on average server 64% longer prison sentances than women for comparable crimes.
Men are 340% more likely than women to be imprisoned who both commited the same crime.
[40% of domestic abuse victims are men.](www.theguardian.com/society/2010/sep/05/men-victims-domestic-violence)
Women commite more than twice as much unprovoked violence agaist men than men commite against women.
[–]ElGato115 38 points39 points40 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Throw those facts at the misguided.
[–]Amsnerr 23 points24 points25 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Trust, I have been. Still like posting them when I see something relevant, so others can use them aswell. Just remember, both sides do have their inequalities, what I posted in no way dismisses the inequalities women face.
[–]LowRentMegazord 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"REEEE I WON'T LOOK AT YOUR HATEFACTS YOU SHOULD BE DEPLATFORMED ANYONE WHO DOESN'T PHYSICALLY ATTACK YOU FOR DISAGREEING WITH ME IS A NAZI!"
[–]Sindoray 21 points22 points23 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
“I’m not misguided, I work 1 hour a month as entree lvl and don’t earn as much as the CEO of the company who works 60 hours a week. This is so unfair, I want to be paid the same, but work less. Have no responsibility, but the same function. Also lower work pressure/stress, but have access to all the benefits. If you don’t agree, you raped me mentally and I’m allowed to stab you while not getting any punishment you creepy rapist.”
Or something like that.
[–]Sindoray 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for taking the time to reply, and provide more than enough sources. Comment saved for sources. Will provide credits when used. :)
[–]LatinIsADeadLanguage 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just gonna save that comment...
[–]Red-Lantern 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your theme song for bringing receipts.
[–]Selrisitai 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Saves source of post for linking elsewhere
[–]WikiTextBot 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Homicide statistics by gender
According to the data given by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, worldwide, 78.7% of homicide victims are men, and in 193 of the 202 listed countries or regions, men were
more likely to be killed than women. In two, the ratio was 50:50 (Switzerland and British Virgin Islands), and in the remaining seven – Tonga, Iceland, Japan, New Zealand, Republic of Korea, Latvia and Hong Kong – women were slightly more likely to be victims of homicides compared to males. A 2013 global study on homicide by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime found that men accounted for about 96 percent of all homicide perpetrators worldwide and 79% of the victims (see the chart below). The homicide rate is per year per 100,000 inhabitants.
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[–]sam8448 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How do I double upvote? I have a sister in law that is all over the whole “women have it worse, woe is me” and I’d love to shut down her next shitty rant
[–]_Last_Man_Standing_ 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"wage gap" is a myth... "earnings gap" is real tho...
[–]DirtyMartiniGibson 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Spending gap is more realer. Ain’t nobody buying me dinner n drinks 😭😭😊🤪🤣🤣
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
It's not from working less. It's from picking jobs that pay less. Nurses make less than doctors.
[–]orcscorper 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
They also work less. The average full-time male worker puts in about eight more hours than the average "full-time" female worker.
[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
The statistic people cite is based on full-time employees. You're wrong when you don't need to be.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, that statistic doesn't actually account for how much work is done.
Full time is considered 36+ hours per week.
Men work, on average, 8 hours more per week than women do.
They work more dangerous jobs. They work more lucrative jobs.
None of that is taken into account.
[–]orcscorper 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Yes, the statistic is based on full-time employees. The thing is, "full-time" does not mean 40 hours/week, no more, no less. Annual earnings weren't adjusted to a standard 40 hour work week.
You are wrong when you don't need to be. You can Google this shit before you say something stupid, but you chose not to. Go back to r/Feminism where facts don't matter, and the score is made up.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
What? How does it make sense to send me to r/Feminism when I clearly state the statistic is wrong that women make less than men? You're clearly a retard. Yea, some jobs are full-time and they don't require 40 hour work weeks. I'm sure you're a no-skill laborer, so that probably sounds weird to you. Enjoy your life in poverty.
[–]orcscorper 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Take a Midol already.
You said "It's not from working less", which is untrue. It's not only from working less, but that is most definitely a factor. I told you that "full-time" doesn't mean the same amount of work for everyone, and you said I was wrong about that thing that I was not wrong about at all.
I get a bit salty when someone who doesn't know shit about shit tells me I don't know my shit, so I called you the worst insult I could: feminist. Suck it up, buttercup.
Now, because you said several retarded things in a row, I'm the retard for correcting you. I am a no-skill laborer who lives in poverty, because I know things you don't, and are too lazy to look up. You may not be a feminist, but you're stupid and hateful enough that you'd fit right in. You may need to up your body hair game, though.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Lol. Read the study, retard. You’re wrong, but it’s cute how much you think you’re not.
[–]Sindoray 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The average women does work less. This might be due to raising kids (schools and daycares till 19:00 are a thing at where I live, so this should not be an excuse. It's also subsided). There is nothing with working less, but pls don't complain that you don't get paid for not working vs someone who get paid for working.
[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The statistic people cite is based on full-time employees. You're wrong when you don't need to be. Also, you need to work on your grammar; this was pretty horrid.
[–]ChocomelC 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The wage gap exists, the myth is that it's because of sexism. The real reasons are that they are worse negotiators, choose to work part time more often and choose less dangerous/difficult jobs that pay less.
[–]idma 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
that wasn't a very progressive statement. #allmenRpigs
[–]KinG_Burly 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The wage gape isn't a myth specifically. There are so many factors that go into it such as women choosing jobs that pay lower and not argueing for raises and better starting pay for reasons as simple as women are taught to go with the flow and to not stir trouble. Men tend to be more agressive and will argue for pay. Men are seen as stern and strong when then tell someone to do something, where as a women would seem like a bitch because she is complaining about something not being done. It is not a myth in the fact that it is there yet people are always ignoring factors that really should be looked at.
[–]Sixemperor 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The wage gap is a myth. There is not a wage gap. There is an earnings gap caused by those things you said. A wage gap would mean that men get paid more than women because they’re men which does not fucking happen anywhere in the U.S.
Ahhhhhhhh you are correct my good sir. I stand corrected.
[–][deleted] 62 points63 points64 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sick burn 🔥
[–]Muadaky1568 points 7 years ago [recovered] (70 children) | Copy Link
The most lazy statistical mathematics imaginable. Sum up all the men's wages, divide by N. Sum up all women's wages, divide by N. Then compare directly and cry sexism.
Don't account at all for position, role, industry, tenure, education, experience, or any of the other vastly more influential variables. K
[–]ShelSilverstain 259 points260 points261 points 7 years ago* (19 children) | Copy Link
We should measure many more areas of life other than wages when collecting data on quality of life. Life span, overall health, time off, vacations, education, time with family, etc etc
[–]ulthrant82 223 points224 points225 points 7 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
They (apparently) make 35% and yet spend 70 to 80%.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bridgetbrennan/2015/01/21/top-10-things-everyone-should-know-about-women-consumers/#405326b56a8b
[–]Steakasaurus 150 points151 points152 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Why do you think so much marketing is aimed at them
[–]guarded_heart 91 points92 points93 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Because flashy lights and shit.
[–]Steakasaurus 64 points65 points66 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Wow sweaty, assuming every woman can even perceive flashing light, what a strobophobe.
[–]TheNickers36 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Strobeaphobe? You need some medical attention
[–]Steakasaurus 36 points37 points38 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Wow... I mean yikes, let's unpack this sweaty. First off dont assume everyone here is a carbon based life form :) be better.
[–]STFUandL2P 15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Your satire is too good. It is actually getting you downvotes. Everyone should know if sweetie is spelled “sweaty” then it is satire.
[–]Steakasaurus 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Meh. This is one of the subs I know I can just make stupid jokes and not get lectured at. Downvotes are fine in comparison.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Wait? It's a misspelling of "sweetie?" I was trying to figure out why the hell anyone was calling anyone else "sweaty" as in "Man, it's really hot outside and I'm really sweaty because of it".
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hey don't you be judging my RGB now
[–]guarded_heart 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don’t you be judging my CYMK yo
[–]Diarrhea_Van_Frank 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Literally the entire emasculation of western society was created to sell women lotions and insurance.
[–]SwampCunt 29 points30 points31 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's easy to do that when your money is yours and his money is also yours.
[–]mcSibiss[🍰] 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Every feminist who bitches about wages should read that article. Women have the real buying power.
[–]Atlman7892 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If a man wrote that article in 2019 he would get so much hate on Twitter that Forbes would have to fire him. None of what was said is controversial for the vast majority of women. Our ability to talk about the realities of life has taken a serious turn in the direction of appeasing the citizens of Crazyland.
[–]JosephND -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
women make up 70% through a combination of buying power and influence.
By that logic, men also spend 70% through a combination of buying power and influence.
I fixed the economy, we are operating at 140% now
[–]iiTouchMyselfAtNight 149 points150 points151 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Reminds me of what happened earlier this year when women at Google were complaining about their pay stating they were making less than men. Google investigates and finds out it's paying it's Male Employees less than their Female Employees for the same jobs. lmao.
stumped
Here we go.
[–]Bfree888 91 points92 points93 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Google seems to be advancing a “flawed and incomplete sense of equality” by making sure men and women receive similar salaries for similar work, said Joelle Emerson, chief executive of Paradigm, a consulting company that advises companies on strategies for increasing diversity. That is not the same as addressing “equity,” she said, which would involve examining the structural hurdles that women face as engineers.
Wait... so equal pay for equal work is not the solution? Apparently there are more hurdles to jump over. Some people need to learn that a true meritocracy doesn’t discriminate based on sex, and to just push for equal opportunity at its basis
[–]Wheream_I 63 points64 points65 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Dude they’ve moved beyond equality. It’s equity now.
[–]Bfree888 26 points27 points28 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
in Rick Sanchez’s voice
Well that just sounds like communism with extra steps!
[–]TFunke__Analrapist 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
buuuuuurp
They're idiots, Marty!
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
*morty
[–]log4nw4lk3r 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Isn't that their final goal?
[–]thedreamflick 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s their way of saying “ We want more money because we demand for more money and you have to give it to us no matter what”
[–]Devil-sAdvocate 26 points27 points28 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The next arguments:
Men should pay direct reparations to women for historically restricting females from working for any wage and making any money. This female wage restriction is analogous to slavery. Since this restriction on female wage earning happened for a much longer period of human history (almost all of it) than say black slavery it must be much more radical than simple reparations to even begin to make it historically fair.
To pay these reparations women will be paid a large untaxed lump sum at the age of 18, smaller lump sums every decade thereafter, females will also be paid 130% more than men for the same job, and also females will pay 30% less in taxes.
The lump sums will be financed by a progressive man tax. If any (wealthy) men restrict or hide offshore any amount of their wealth from the new tax or (poor men) do not work enough hours to properly contribute to the reparations fund they will be deemed criminaly misogynist.
[–]Fantoche_Dreemurr 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've already heard "criminally misoginist" quite a few times, it is the next step.
You don't support current women causes with moveable, arbitrary goals blindly? Criminal charges.
[–]Diarrhea_Van_Frank 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Implying google is a meritocracy.
[–]Bfree888 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Implying that the greater US economy is a meritocracy.
[–]Bill_Hodges_1492 101 points102 points103 points 7 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
Wages will never be equal until more women start working blue collar jobs and we know that’s not going to happen.
[–]TheFerg69 65 points66 points67 points 7 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Ok ladies, time to go work construction, sewage treatment, and coal mining. Chop chop get to it.
[–]Old_Man_Obvious 47 points48 points49 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Cry for equal rights shy from equal responsibility.
[–]AnImpromptuFantaisie 19 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Spicy take time
Male and female bodies are biologically different. I’m talking about sex, not gender (I’m all for trans rights). There are some physical labor jobs that are better suited for males, so there will naturally be more of them. Does this mean women shouldn’t be allowed to do them? No. Does this mean that the ability requirements should be lowered in order to even out the gender ratio? No.
For example, a woman should definitely be allowed to train to try and become a Navy SEAL. But the physical tests should remain the same, even if that means that it’s near impossible.
Note: this only applies to jobs that require physical labor, due to biological body differences. I do not think that different sexes are fundamentally better at other jobs.
[–]servicestud 14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Do you not believe that women on average are more socially adept than men and that men on average show greater interest in and aptitude for technical work? That's not something that manifests physically.
Are there no mental differences in your opinion? I encounter this opinion sometimes but I've yet to be convinced.
[–]AnImpromptuFantaisie 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
There’s a difference between “more inclined to want to do” and “fundamentally better”.
I haven’t done enough research to say for certain, but it’s definitely possible that there are biological differences that make someone more inclined to prefer a certain type of job. I don’t think those differences make them fundamentally better at that job though
[–]captain_screwdriver 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There are biological differences that make men and women prefer certain jobs. Women are more inclined to nurturing, which shows extremely well where I live. In Finland there's is almost a complete freedom to choose your future profession. This shows extremely well the preference between men and women. We have the highest difference in the world between men and women in professions like teacher and nurse. I'm a man and I'm a nurse, in school our class had 4 men and ~40 women. At work we have 2 men and ~30 women. An example in the other direction is computer engineering where there is hardly any women.
So, basically the only thing limiting people's future professions here are their own preference, which leads to them getting a profession they want the most. With a complete freedom to choose, there are definite trends between genders.
[–]uzikaduzi 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
whether it's nature or nurture that causes these differences, we have differences that are counter to inclinations. For example, women tend to be better welders than men, yet it's certainly a male dominated field. of course that proves nothing, but it's at least suggestive that it's not all a difference of desire or interest.
[–]servicestud 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hm, intuitively, preferring a job would correlate with increased aptitude,though, right?
[–]Diarrhea_Van_Frank 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I do not think that different sexes are fundamentally better at other jobs.
They absolutely are. Biological differences don't stop just short of the brain.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nawh even a woman that passes the physical tests shouldn't be a Navy SEAL. Women soldiers just get good men killed in combat. They get injured more often and more seriously, they can't carry their gear as long, they are worse in firefights, and they lower squad morale dangerously. Women do not have a place in the special forces.
[–]conn6614 21 points22 points23 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Lmao yeah when was the last time I’ve seen a woman working an oil rig? Literally never and these guys make bank so that’s enough to skew the stats right there.
[–]implodedrat 32 points33 points34 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I worked a concrete factory for a year. It was pain in the ass work but awesome money. One day we had a big meeting and the supervisor was asked by the CEO why hes never hired any women. He shrugged and said “well ive been here 20+ years and ive never even had an application from a woman so that makes it difficult.”
[–][deleted] 7 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
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[–]tiorzol 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Nah man clean coal is here to save us from global warming.
[–]ManLeader 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Also when women stop having kids. Tends to be pretty detrimental to your career.
[–]QuasisLogic 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ironically this would become more equal if men got more time off options for parenting.
[–]ManLeader 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. S/O to Google for paternity leave.
[–]CrusaderRay 62 points63 points64 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
How to fix the earnings gap, by Christina Hoff Sommers (I think?):
Step 1: Change your major from Feminist dance theory, to electrical engineering.
Step 2: Profit.
[–]_Marven101 13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Interpretive feminist dance theory
[–]SolarStorm2950 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Interpretive lesbian feminist dance theory
[–]VforVivaVelociraptor 44 points45 points46 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you include the legal principle that married women own half of their husband’s equity, women actually make more.
[–]OHAITHARU 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ah, but don't men also own half of their wife's wealth?
Well not really no. Nevermind.
[–]SecretProperty 108 points109 points110 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Take my orange arrow
[–]FiveOhFive91 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
And my orange axe.
[–]StromaeNotDed 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And my orange president.
[–]tiorzol 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Chill Kel
[–]OldSchoolNewRules 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
https://youtu.be/wjWBXbGVyQU
[–]Carter0108 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not even that. It's the median wage so it's even more of a pointless statistic.
[–]JosephND 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s honestly the stupidest statistic and the one they immediately use to cry foul. If women cost 70% of what men cost from a company’s perspective, why wouldn’t they exclusively hire women?
[–]TheHillsHavePis 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yet it's been popularized by fucking everything that now even movies and TV shows are quoting some bullshit 21 cents more crap. Prime example of people not doing their own research nor understanding the importance of control variables. People who look at that and cry sexism are probably the same who think they know more than doctors.
[–]Dirte_Joe 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Every time I hear someone claim this I think “if that’s the case then women would make up almost the entire work force.” Why would anyone hire a man when they can hire a woman for 30% less cost.
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[–]HollerinHippie 21 points22 points23 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have an Econ degree and did quite a bit of study on labor economics and econometrics. While you’re right about how the modern wage gap is calculated, you told us jack shit about the wage gap. Instead of explaining how it’s calculated and telling us /r/iamverysmart, you could have just said that the modern wage gap is closer to 98 cents on the dollar when accounting for those variables.
[–]holywowwhataguy 379 points380 points381 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
The fucking NERVE. First she asks for a lower price after you've already agreed to go lower. THEN, she tries to make you feel bad, as if you fucking owe her something. Self-centered brat who is trying to manipulate you. Unbelievable.
[–]ForgotPasswordAgain- 39 points40 points41 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I mean she literally has nothing to lose, who cares? Some idiot might do it.
It seems textbook for this sub but I’m not feelin this one even though it’s hilarious.
[–]ChristopherLove 47 points48 points49 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
>nothing to lose
Except that he raised the price $50 in response.
[–]Rise_up_Dirty_Birds -5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
But she doesn’t have to buy it. Don’t get me wrong, still a cunty thing to do but technically he’s right.
[–]Garry-The-Snail 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I mean she just lost the opportunity to buy it for $400. So, technically, he is not right.
[–]Rikogen 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Right, this would be know as an intangible loss.
[–]RichardInaTreeFort -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You have met actual females before, right?
[+][deleted] -7 points-6 points-5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A little extreme there bud
[–]Content_Not_History 95 points96 points97 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I can't believe people are still using that wage myth.
[–]Virulence- 43 points44 points45 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's feminist's wild card
[–]Romane_PaulNibaa 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The wage gap is literally just men work higher paying jobs so they get payed more but some people see it as men get payed more then women just because they're men. No it's just because there are more men working high paying jobs then there are women.
[–]Rajili 88 points89 points90 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
If you could get the same work for 70% of the cost, why would you ever hire a man?
[–]maflarson 61 points62 points63 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
There's actually an article about Google lowering the pay of its women for this exact reason. The men were getting paid almost half of what the women were paid for the same amount of work. Both got the same wage but the males were getting work done twice as fast
[–]LeapYearFriend 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
that's hilarious
[–]Rajili 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I tried to find it. This is the closest I got.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/technology/google-gender-pay-gap.html
It doesn’t mentioning lowering women’s pay, rather, increasing men’s in some cases.
[–]slab_of_beef 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
To actually get work done?
[–]Spirit117 223 points224 points225 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm stealing his response for future use
[–]Alexia_ynwa 39 points40 points41 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Do they actually say that? wtf
[–]ShyverMeTibbers 17 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes
[–]iSamurai 30 points31 points32 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I mean I'd just be straight up: "500 because the wage gap is a myth"
[–]16yeets 446 points447 points448 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Girls make 70 cents on the dollar because y'all major in lesbian dance theory and not electrical engineering smh
[–][deleted] 28 points29 points30 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
These days it wouldn't even surprise me if lesbian dance theory is an actual thing.
[–]HIMADPEOPLES 141 points142 points143 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Lesbian dance theory holy shit I'm dead
[–]iSamurai 35 points36 points37 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think Christina Hoff Summers uses that one a lot. She's awesome
[–]ShoopHadoop 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Feminist underwater pottery"
[–]kenzo535 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
r/rareinsults
[–]An_Old_IT_Guy 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I just discovered that sub last week and now I'm seeing it everywhere
[–]Weneeddietbleach 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So what colleges offer classes on lesbian dance theory? Asking for a friend.
[–]Elite-wortwortwort 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Might as well bring up “Gender Studies” (I somewhat appreciate what they do, but at the same time it’s not exactly the same as going into a STEM field).
[+]LatinIsADeadLanguage -12 points-11 points-10 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Found the Ben Shapiro fan
[–]Dawknight 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Found the Vox blogger.
[–]LatinIsADeadLanguage 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Vox is trash
[–]Christ_on_a_Crakker 47 points48 points49 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Like Adam Carolla says, if want to make more than 70 cents on the dollar start opening your own pickle jars.
[–]Van_groove 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
get it on
[–]ghetterking 96 points97 points98 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
i buy and sell lotsa stuff online on various websites. i constantly see people try to haggle with me and my prices are fixed (unless you order large amounts and/or pick it up yourself but that‘s rare)
to anyone that gives me a bullshit reason i just make it more expensive by an arbitrary amount, same with people that try to scam me (fake bank accounts and identities most commonly, in which case i ask for cash money aswell. fun fact, i actually do sometimes sell to those same people this very way)
„can you sell me 10% cheaper because i‘m a student?“
„[...] a woman?“
„...old?“
„...veteran?“
„...i‘m a politician and could vote for sth you would want?“
„...just had an abortion?“
„...poor?“
„...just survived a car accident?“
„...my kids were diagnosed with x“
„...my parents left me when i was a child“
never got a single downvote or bad review that i couldnt remove with a mod by showing them the message and proving they were trying to scam me. i dont have many customers, but the ones that bought stuff from me not only claim they would come back, they actually do. most of them return once a month, easily.
[–]HIMADPEOPLES 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
What do you sell that people come back for? For some reason I can't think of anything besides like stuff you'd sell on eBay because you just want to get rid of it.
[–]ghetterking 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
nah, i do this shit semiprofessionally. i buy bulk whenever i see something extraordinarily cheap and then resell it in smaller amounts (usually one by one). i dont really have a forté, i literally buy whatever if it seems cheap and i feel like i can get rid of it in a reasonable amount of time.
and yes, this includes this typical ebay crap, but also stuff like 100 led lamps, or a huge set of asorted cutlery, or thousands of cups and glasses after a huge party or a company that goes bancrupt has tons of stuff for sale for great prices. buying stuff like this can often be done well in rl aswell, especially with good connections. everyone among my friends knows my „job“, so they always give me great tips.
it isnt easy money, you have to calculate a lot because of packaging, shipping and so on, so i try to remain somewhat local.
oh, forgot the most important part: some people actually just buy whatever i sell cheaply for them, or at least it feels like it. but some things i can actually order regularly and my main customers can expect these more or less on a monthly basis. for a while i could do this with pet food for example, i don’t know why. like for half a year there was too much on the market or something. i also deal with drinks, but not so much, as i usually need to order way more than i‘d have space for and could get rid of, but sometimes i get a good deal. my best one was actually when a food truck crashed of some supermarket. they couldnt sell their wares anymore and i was the first to say to buying essentially all of the good stuff for a low low price.
but honestly, the most reliable product for me is toilet paper. there are so many brands and types and lengths but i dont give a crap and my customers dont either. i just buy the cheapest and my customers love me for it. by far most of my storage space i use for toilet paper (and kitchen paper and tissues). i store it in my attic which is made out of wood, so in that same very space i couldnt store drinks that i was talking about.
[–]ZaviaGenX 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I feel if i ever did get around to doing such sales, id do this.
Need a house first tho
[–]johnmal85 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I know a guy that did it a little less spontaneous. He would resell leather hats, cologne, fur coats, etc.
[–]ZaviaGenX 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I am able to find where to get cheap (worked in purchasing helped too) but my market is a value market.
If I buy those faux leather bracelets for usd0.75 each, id only be able to sell for usd3 or less in the local market. So its a bit tough.
[–]BadDadBot -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hi able to find where to get cheap (worked in purchasing helped too) but my market is a value market.
if i buy those faux leather bracelets for usd0.75 each, id only be able to sell for usd3 or less in the local market. so its a bit tough., I'm dad.
[–]ghetterking 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
shit bot
[–]intp-over-thinker 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I can think of a few things that would keep people coming back
[–]evesea 28 points29 points30 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You don't start with a number then lower it.. that's probably why women make less.
Jk they don't make less for the same job thats a myth.
[–]Jay_Hardy 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
But Twitter said so? /s
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Twitter is the most reliable source for information /s
[–][deleted] 110 points111 points112 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
70% meme
Yeah, because of maternity leaves and all the part time moms. Not inequality. You dumb bitch
[–]sixseven89 60 points61 points62 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
The 70% doesnt even account for differences in education, experience, past performance etc.
[–]Fat_Head_Carl 38 points39 points40 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Or taking jobs that women don't want... Like sanitation engineer. Pays good, and put food on my grandparents table (....well, the food was bought from pop's wages).
[–]The-True-Kehlder 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
First read that as "poop's wages".
[–]iSamurai 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Probably accurate
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm glad you clarified. Here I thought your grandparents were EXTREME recyclers.
[–]BadDadBot 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hi glad you clarified. here i thought your grandparents were extreme recyclers., I'm dad.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not even 70 it's 77
[–]MidnightAdventurer 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It’s not even considering that any of that (though one could argue that maternity leave shouldn’t be a major factor anyway).
It’s just a straight gross earnings comparison ignoring hours worked, industry, position, qualifications - basically any and all confounding variables. Of course the original study accounted for all of those things and arrived at a figure closer to 5% difference all told. People just latched on to the incorrectes figure because it sounded worse
[–]mcSibiss[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
In a society where many women are stay at home moms, shouldn't it be perfectly normal that men earn more? Men have bigger financial responsibilities. How many men have to pay for everything in their home? How many women do? That alone not only explains the wage gap, but means that if their wasn't one, it would be unfair.
Women spend 70% to 80% of the money that both men and women make. So men earn more, but it's not really their money, is it?
[–]yeotajmu 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Right? I don't see anyone complaining that men pay for the entire early dating sequence the majority of the time
[–]Sabishao 15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Isn't the wage gap due to women just having lower paying jobs on average.
[+]rokiller -11 points-10 points-9 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
From my experience as a software developer women quite often are paid less then I as a guy am. The wage gap is probably skewers slightly because of the lower paying jobs but women are only cattle'd into those roles because that's how society is.
I have however, not seen once a women be penalised for pointing out they are paid less and it is usually rectified immediately (breaking the Las is a powerful negotiating fuck up)
[–]MadZee_ 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
A lot of the time it's not whether it's a woman or a man earning less/more, but employers just paying the smallest amount they can get away with. If your salary is negotiable, the employer will do anything to pay you less, imcluding encouraging people not to talk about their wages. That's why wages for the same position might even differ between two people of the same sex.
[–]Bobthemime 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep.. where I worked recently operated like this.
I worked maybe 15hours more a week than the next person, and was paid the same as her.
When I sounded off, i was told either put up with it or quit. so i quit. told my union of what they said to me, and got a severance package worth more than I'd make in a year.
The woman complained to me that now she would have to make up my deficit because I quit. Lady.. if you did half as much as I did.. you would have been in the same boat where you arent paid overtime, to make up for the slack YOU created in the first place.
[–]rokiller -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree, but often the opening offer is lower for women. Like I say this is simply from my experience, don't know why everyone is down voting. Probably because it's an experience which goes against their anger against women 😂
[–]Sabishao 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Breaking the what?
[–]rokiller 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Law! My autocorrect can suck a mighty bag of dicks
[–]Sabishao 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Just turn it off man, I never have problems without autocorrect. Set yourself free.
[–]rokiller 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm dyslexic as fuck, without it I'd embarrass myself far more often then not...
It is but a half life, a cursed life
[–]Sabishao 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well alright then, luck to you.
[–]FordClitaurus 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Cops don’t give tickets to pretty girls
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
George?
[–]snahfu 45 points46 points47 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If this is how females negotiate their salaries...😬
[–]Bobthemime 13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
On their knees in my experience.
Too many women getting jobs/raises because they are fucking the management.
[–]Rezenik 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
But 300 isn't 70% of 400...
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Women are bad with numbers.....
[+]chesterluno -9 points-8 points-7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's unironically pretty sexist
[–]rg90184 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're unironically pretty stupid.
[–]PeterFalksEye 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Burrrrrrrnnnñnn .
[–]ClapBackRat 39 points40 points41 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
lol @ his response
[–]Hiddenagenduh 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
r/Choosingbeggars
[–]Chick-Fil-A- 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
thats where he originally posted this and we told him to post it here lol
[–]berttreynolds 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Offers 400, and then lowballs, this girl doesn’t know shit about bargaining, lowball first and then meet in the middle wtf
[–]eveloution27 24 points25 points26 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I'm not trying to be ignorant or anything but do women actually believe in the wage Gap in Canada? I just thought it was a thing that women in the states said.
[–]Matt2phat 14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
It’s probably worse in Canada tbh
[–]Wajina_Sloth 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
In my college for some social study classes I've had a few teachers spew out the statistic.
[–]Matt2phat 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
And? Is it worst in Canada? I assume all things SJW are worse due to their PM
[–]Pink_Punisher 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Take my opinion with a grain of salt as I never went to post secondary but I'm finding that men in the same age grouping as myself (20-30) tend to be very unsupportive of their cries and complaints of the SJWs. In the last few years there are enough intelligent people coming to light that effective pick apart the wage gap (Jordan Peterson being a prime example) that I think the younger generations are seeing it for what it is.
[–]Matt2phat 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank god. Hope you’re right
[–]LowRentMegazord 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A lot of Canadians just mindlessly parrot whatever the American political bugbear du jour is, no matter how misapplied the arguments are when they're made about Canada.
[–]intracellular 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women make less money because they're dumb enough to think the FBI is going to hire 50,000 thots with brand new "forensic psychology" degrees
[–]gojohandjob 13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
She has poor negotiation skills
[–]pusymaster 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
in all fairness, so does the person selling the guitar. Should've said 450 instead of deal right away, makes it seem like it's worth it
[–]Punkgoblin 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
My gf got out of a speeding ticket when she wasn't even speeding, cop gave her his number. A week later he pulled her over and gave her a ticket for running a red light (which she didn't do) because she didn't call him.
In court, the judge said why should we believe you over a sworn officer? She had thrown his number on the floor of her car after the stop and I told her to take it to court. So she pulls out her phone, dials the number, and the cop's personal cell phone starts ringing.
Case dismissed, judge to cop "I need to speak to you in my chambers RIGHT NOW!".
EDIT: Cop was in his 30's, my gf was 19.
[–]teeb46 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Is this true though?
[–]Punkgoblin 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I wasn't there but that's what she told me.
[–]Voriki2 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
OP, repost this to r/ChoosingBeggars.
I must admit I tried to crosspost, but crossposting is not allowed on CB. And I don't want to steal the glory by claiming it came from me.
[–]Hedwigisbae[S] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I posted it there first, and in r/nicegirls
[–]Voriki2 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Didn't see it at first, kutgw
[–]Ryan1188 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Can someone explain to me why someone would accept PayPal for a classified ad? Couldn't the person just do a chargeback or unauthorized purchase reveral like all the PayPal scammers do? PayPal is complete garbage for the seller.
[–]Bobthemime 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
If you can prove you did nothing wrong, PayPal will actually back you up a lot more than people think
[–]Ryan1188 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
How do you prove a person destroyed or damage said product once in their possession due to poor handling or misuse, especially electronics? It's just not worth the risk.
[–]Bobthemime 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Whenever I sell things, I take pictures of every part of the process.
What the item is being sold is, the condition it is in, and I film myself packing it, and posting it.
I have had people try and scam me before. PayPal has backed me up every time.
It's worth the extra 15mins to document stuff.
[–]Ryan1188 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Interesting, I've always considered taping the packing process etc. but never figured it would actually be considered in a dispute resolution. It seems paypal always sided with the buyer.
[–]Bobthemime 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is why I started doing it.
I had a buyer drop my package.. tell me in messages that he dropped the package, and that he wanted a refund. He bought an Xbox One X off of me (i won it in a competition and dont play console, i regret it now), dropped the thing.. and wanted the £200 back he paid for it. It had a retail price of £550 at the time.. was one of the fancy ones with all the bells and whistles and games attached.
He complained to ebay and paypal, and when i showed them the messages he sent where he admitted to dropping it.. they said it wasnt concrete proof, and refunded him. He sent me a picture after the fact and the console was working perfectly.. he didn't drop it at all. Still nothing from PayPal. However, ebay did ban him.
PayPal's disputes person said that unless i have documented proof of me sending stuff unbroken, they have to side with the buyer "to stop scammers". So ever since, whenever i sell something I make sure to have 5-10mins worth of video and half/full dozen pictures of the condition of what I sell.
So many people claim things either dont turn up, never was shipped, turned up broken, sent out broken. Anything to get an item for free and PayPal has stuck to their word. They are getting sick of seeing my name crop up in disputes. They know they cant do anything about it, because I have proof of buyers scamming chargebacks and failed payments.
its baffling what people will do to get out of paying £3 for a trilogy of books.
[–]MrNomis 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How does free drinks, no cover fee for girls, guys pay most of the time, all get calculated in there?
[–]Nate_The_Scot 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
550 Because the wage gap is a myth, 600 for trying to pull that "i'm a girl though" shit, and 650 for asking for another 100 off an already reduced price like a cheeky cunt.
[–]latenightguything 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
And 2000 extra because girls can make false rape accusations without consequences (or however you spell it), thus ruining an innocent man's life without any reason.
[–]Nate_The_Scot 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Always have a camera. I'm not one of those guys who'll refuse to be around a woman alone because i'm afraid of being accused of something, but you can bet that if she seems a little off i'll be keeping my phone handy in case i need to record our interaction for defence later. It is a sad and fucked up world we live in, for both parties. Guys who think raping women is okay and women who think false rape accusations are okay. Both do untold damage to the victims, their families and their lives.
[–]latenightguything 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, sad that stuff like that is even possible.
[–]Raptor2105 points 7 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
That GS mini’s a sweet guitar tho, why are you selling it if I may ask?
[–]Foudzing 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah very good guitar, let's hope it finish in good hands and not taking dust in the attic.
[–]VVont 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
wow. amazing bartering skills.
Do these people actually think that’d work?
[–]strwbrywild 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
1000 because she is a dumbass!
I can't believe so many woman try this shit. We're all just trying to make a living and stay alive, don't try and take advantage of people. Just don't be a cunt.
[–]Nagi21 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]hundenkattenglassen 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Shit like this makes me reluctant to sell anything at all because I despise people like this.
[–]ArcanedAgain 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
r/choosingbeggers
[–]1010username 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Gold
[–]zero_space 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Taylor gs mini is a good guitar. I miss mine. Wish I'd never sold it ):
More of this wage gap bullshit
[–]thinsoldier 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Last I checked all my closest male friends were working 2 below minimum wage jobs while I've been unemployed since 2016. Fuck this asshole and anyone thinks Bill Gates and Jay Z's bank account has any relevance to a transaction between me and you.
[–]GxPand 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I believe in the wage gap but until women start paying their way in life I support it, men need that extra for dinner, drinks etcetera.
[–]FoxSanjuro 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Also wage gap is a myth
[–]AyeAye_Kane 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i'm gonna stay skeptical on this one considering ive already seen a post similar to this
[–]CurtisUpshall 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
$400 is a good deal, too
[–]Zerocyde 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bullshit.
[–]salvlox 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this shit is getting out of hand
[–]chloralhydrate 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
1000 just to show im not sorry
Fuck I hate that bullshit stat. We've really managed to brainwash our women that they actually make less per hour.... The claim doesn't take into account any variables at all (men work longer hours, men work more dangerous positions in terms of both physical danger and career risk, men sacrifice everything for success in many cases, men are typically far less agreeable when negotiating salary than women who just accept the offer and whine about it, etc.)
The only reason my wife didn't get sucked into this thinking was because I used to be military and when I was deployed she saw how much I actually took care of and it overwhelmed her each time. Learning the hard way.
[–]Starcruiser28 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I actually saw a female garbage collector the other day, not a bad looking one either, she was picking up lawn refuse and having to actually toss cans and bags. perhaps they are starting to realize equality?
[–]hoppinghyneman 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
what a fucking idiot lol
[–]LiveTheTruth321 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Girls make 30% less because they work less
[–]fingerboxes 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The most insane thing is that even if you accepted all of the faulty logic, data, and statistical analysis that makes up the 'wage gap' myth, it still wouldn't mean what they think it means.
If you take into account that women spend as much to more money as men, it would mean that in order to spend a dollar, women need to significantly less than a dollar while men need to earn significantly more than one. It demonstrates the exact opposite of what they think and claim that it does.
And the draft...
$600.00, because she’s being a headache!
you didint make this
[–]asparadog 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I work in sales, and get this a lot more than one would expect. I ask when they last asked for a pay-rise... That either goes two ways, they buy for the original price, or they stop wasting my time and go away...
[–]Lotharius2828 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fyi anyone who cares. This is one of the best backpack guitars one can buy for the money. Highly recommended
[–]Foudzing 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't sell it because I never saw a girl who put enough effort to learn and practice guitar, guitar will take dust, if guitar is lucky then it will be used by the bf when coming over.
[–]Narcissist456 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hahaha love the response.
[–]Kryptosis 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
$800 because of wars.
[–]Jay_Hardy 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Does this qualify as choosing beggars?
I posted it there first before posting it here
[–]Jay_Hardy 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh, I see. Nice!
[–]FGTMonster 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
High risk , high pay
Low risk , low pay
[–]Oprahs_snatch 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There is absolutely no way that this is real.
No female that would ever have the balls to ask that would refer to themselves as anything other than a woman.
[–]Relyk_Reppiks 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No way this shit is real.
Kijiji sucks
Wait... so every time a man makes a dollar. a woman is just given 70 cents? damn where can i get in on that. Now i gotta go watch It's a Wonderful Life.
[–]A-weema-weh 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Is this kinda thing real? Wtf is going on.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What app is that?
[–]Hedwigisbae[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Kijiji
[–]carbongreen 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What did she say after that?
[–]sd408 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Can i ask what app this is lol i needa sell stuff
[–]Snoww37 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
r/clevercomebacks
Should have been atleast 550
[–]FaustoLG 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Illusion 1 vs Destruction 100
LOL!
500 because if a ship is sinking , you get first dibs on the lifeboat.
[–]LeeHarveySnoswald 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
r/badfaketexts
[–]Sawyers_gunstash 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'd throw away the potential sale too after that. Just reading that reasoning made me wince.
Posted it there first
[–]DOC_OVERDOSE 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
$ 100,000,000 because i want you to go back to the kitchen and make me two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, one number 7, two number 45s one with cheese and a large soda
[–]Iwantnicethingstoook 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
what a loser
[–]olinvomibo123 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This deserves a place in chossingbeggers
[–]SocietopathyObserved 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She was gonna give him 20 bucks extra!
Perfect comeback
[–]Nostradomas 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This didnt happen to your friend. This is old and has been around for like 2 years. Still a good clip.
[–]FlaccidRhino 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If she's going on that logic she should have asked for 280.
[–]Aardvarksss 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
500 because youre dealing with a man, and my time is apparently more valuable than yours.
[–]ivanabearr 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
r/choosingbeggars
[–]KingHarris_ 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
1700 cuz my grandmommys best friend is a millionaire
[–]dooshbag_of_dicks 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fart of the deal
[–]Huracan360 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I guess this can fit on r/choosingbeggars
[–]BigDaddyGibbby 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Should have given her 70% of the guitar
Pretty girls do.*
[–]grendelsnightmare 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In English law, I think that contract is formed at 400...
There was an offer; "400?"
There was acceptance; "Yep deal"
If he really wanted to be a righteous crusader, he would take her to court and force her to pay the 400.
[–]alljewsarebastards 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I haven't actually encountered a bitch dumb enough to use that line, but I'm really hoping I do so I can call her a worthless cunt. No woman has ever made it on to our crew. They don't deserve what we get paid.
[–]M1nD-Fr34K 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I feel like what she said is strait bs in a cup
[–]shalverson 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
God I had the best laugh tonight.
[–]jaktyp -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hurray, this sub is going to be full of r/ChoosingBeggars content now.
Por que no Los dos?
[–]Fantoche_Dreemurr 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You know you lost the argument when you spout leftist groupthink shit like that
[–]yourfriendlymanatee 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Fake and gay
[–]Hedwigisbae[S] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No u
So fake
[–]Hedwigisbae[S] -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
How? It's a fucking screenshot
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Cause nobody talks like that cop on.
[–]Hedwigisbae[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Go scroll down r/choosingbeggars and then come back to me
It's an entertaining sub but a lot of it is faked. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
[+]Border_Patrol_ -36 points-35 points-34 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
bad title
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Bad comment
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Good comment
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Thank you
[–]literally___stalin 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
happy cake day
[–]2Lgt 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Very good comment
[+]VandelayyIndustries -20 points-19 points-18 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
How about $600 because men eat tens of thousands of dollars more in food over their lifetimes.
[–]6ohshitimsorry9 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
source?
[–]VandelayyIndustries -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Common sense.
[–]SirSamlet 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm pretty sure only you and a couple of your other feminazi friends think that
[–]VandelayyIndustries 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You seem to have misunderstood my comment, sir.
And also replied 84 days late.
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