"Teaching boys to treat women properly."

DrewYetti · 2024-07-23T09:57:11+00:00

“Teaching boys to treat women properly.”

Translation from womanese, “Boys should place women on a pedestal and treat them like queens and revere them as goddesses for just being a female.”

However, there is no demand and expectations to teach women to act properly let alone teach girls to treat men properly. Feminism in a nutshell “women choices, men obligations.”

mrkpxx · 2024-07-23T07:59:21+00:00

I would like to see an attempt at: "Teaching women to treat boys properly."

(Mandatory for female teachers)

Alex_Mercer_23 · 2024-07-23T09:56:29+00:00

Teach women to treat boys properly

The majority of men who rape women are sexually abused by women in childhood

Heterosexual Molestation of Children Who Later Became Rapists

This is a report of a serendipitous finding from another study of childhood heterosexual molestation of men who were incarcerated as adults for rape. Subjects were 83 men in a medium security penitentiary who had been convicted of raping women at least 17 years of age. They found that fifty-nine (59%) of the rapists had been heterosexually molested.

The Male Survivor

"Briere and Smiljanich (1993) administered Koss and Oros's Sexual Experiences Survey (SES) and found that sexually abused men were significantly more likely than nonabused men to report having had sexual intercourse with a woman against her will either because they 'became so sexually aroused [they] could not stop [themselves]' or 'by pressuring her with continual arguments'. Briere and Smiljanich reason that their childhood experiences modeled aggression in sexual relationships and conditioned sexual arousal to coercive or aggressive behavior. (It seems reasonable to suspect that childhood sexual abuse would also model a lack of impulse control and ability to delay or deny gratification.) Briere and Smiljanich also noted that those who experienced their own abuse as something they had minimal control over were most likely to be sexually aggressive. They view rape and other sexual offenses as a maladaptive attempt to master or gain control over the trauma."

"Freeman-Longo (1986) focused on connections between sexual abuse and later sexually abusive or aggressive behavior. Based on his work with sexually abused sex offenders, he argues that 1) the offender's offense(s) are a replication of what happened in his sexual victimization; 2) the offender's offense(s) are an anger reaction to his sexual victimization; or 3) the offender's offense(s) are a modelling of his sexual victimization because his personal and/or misinterpreted view(s) of his victimization was that it was not that harmful to him, that there were pleasurable aspects of it, and in some cases it was thought of as sexually arousing."

"Freeman-Longo emphasizes the enormous amounts of anger, pain and frustration experienced by the men he studied. He states that they are unable to deal with feelings for fear of becoming vulnerable to others. They often possess tremendous hatred toward their abuser and a desire to retaliate against him or her. At the same time they feel vulnerable towards their abuser and may feel in his or her control. They tend to experience themselves as having a lack of power and control in their lives; powerlessness is among the most dominant features of their psychology. Sexual assaults are attempts to regain power and control by sexually abusing others."

"Freeman-Longo found two features to be critical risk factors for the repetition of sexual abuse: (1) victimization by more than one perpetrator on separate occasions, (2) abuse that occurs repeatedly over a long period of time. His theory, that the offender's offenses replicate his own victimization, gains some support from the findings of other studies of convicted sex offenders. Groth (1979b) found that rapists (of women) are more likely to have been victimised by females in childhood, whereas child molesters were more often abused by males. Petrovich and Templer (1984) found that 59% of convicted rapists had been molested by females during childhood and that the majority of this abuse was quite severe. Briere and Smiljanich (1993) found that 80% of sexually abused men who reported sexually aggressive behaviour towards women had themselves been sexually abused by women during childhood. Summit (1983) also sees the perpetuation of child molestation and rape as part of the sexually abused boy's legacy of rage."

Protecting boys from the risk of sexual abuse

Because few male victims admit their victimisation to academic researchers, it has been assumed that either boys are less vulnerable to sexual abuse than girls or that their abuse is less damaging. As a result, very little attention has been given to the protection of boys. This negligence is surprising given the known relationship between male sexual victimisation and the later commission of sexual offences (Kohn, 1987; Dimock, 1988; Briggs, Hawkins and Williams, 1994). In his current British study, Bentovim (1994) has found that one in five male victims becomes a juvenile offender.

Current_Finding_4066 · 2024-07-23T08:08:52+00:00

All they have managed to do is for me to decide to not help women anymore and not to support any women related issues ever again. Why? Because I am tired of mistreatment of men. The blatant double standards. As long as that is not addressed, I refuse to give a shit about womens issues.

WhenYoung333 · 2024-07-23T10:37:14+00:00

What about , " teach every human being to respect every other human being " it boils my blood that those people think that women are incabable of doing anything

gabriel-kornilov · 2024-07-23T12:02:19+00:00

They treat men like shit day in, day out but expect us to treat them like royalties? Fuck off.

NAWALT_VADER · 2024-07-23T08:04:03+00:00

"Teach girls to treat men properly."

In my opinion, it is often a good idea to echo their sexist statements back to them, with genders reversed. Immediately after they utter their nonsense. Hopefully they can learn the idiocy of viewing the world through such a cracked lens, when they themselves feel needlessly and irrationally targeted simply due to their sex. Using their own words, and their own warped ideology.

I agree with you. Everyone should treat each other properly, regardless of gender.

"Teach people to treat people properly." <--Much better. Why does this seem so difficult for those who claim to fight for equality of the sexes..?

We don't need to create further division between the sexes by using such sexist language. Gender neutral language used to describe human behaviours makes more sense. There are enough bad people on either side who could learn to behave better. Bad behaviour has no gender. Those who insist otherwise are sexist by definition.

Reaper621 · 2024-07-23T13:06:53+00:00

The worst ones in my hs were the tiny girls. Most of them were mean af, and treated people like shit because "you can't touch girls, stoopid!"

I was pretty fortunate. The worst for me said something really inappropriate, and I don't remember what it was anymore. I looked at her and told her I would fold her in half if she ever got within 3 feet of me, ever. She looked at the teacher (female) and the teacher said "after a comment like that, I think I'd let him".

There are those in a position to teach that are teaching properly. They may be few and far between, but they're out there.

thatusenameistaken · 2024-07-23T13:39:56+00:00

what is this fixation on teaching boys to treat women properly?

Grooming boys to act against their best interests and condition them to accept the abuse showered on them by a gynocentric society.

No one with two brain cells together believes constant education on "consent" is what stops a rapist, it's used as a bludgeon to beat men into submission as boys so they're used to the abuse and trained for the yoke.

RacinRandy83x · 2024-07-23T10:49:21+00:00

Teaching people to treat people properly would be a great thing to do within our society. Would fix a lot of issues most people have with each other.

hasbulla_magomedov · 2024-07-23T12:50:30+00:00

It’s the underlying issue with the way we raise boys and girls. We teach boys how to treat a woman, and that if boys treat girls well that’s how we’ll get their affection. Well we don’t teach girls how to treat boys, girls are just taught how to act in a manner that represents themselves well. So essentially girls grow up always receiving and never giving. This is why so many women demand a man that pays all the bills, has all the time in the world for her and does everything at her request. What does she do in return, nothing. Why? Because society taught her that her existence is good enough to warrant this treatment from men

Ok-Yogurtcloset7394 · 2024-07-23T14:25:09+00:00

They are soooo close. they understand that the way we socialize men is a problem but instead of considering how we don't treat men like humans they derive men are just thaught not to treat women like humans from it...

And then they call themselves feminists... Whenever someone makes Statements Like that I am happy to point how I, as a man, am more feministic than them. it makes them fume with rage.

Jaded-Help1860 · 2024-07-23T13:48:34+00:00

Meanwhile the women in question are always either belittling men’s issues, acting like it’s okay if only a small percentage of men are mentally and physically raped because women have it worse and all, and spewing misandrist nonsense overall on social media. Screw respect. Screw good treatment. Only those who are worthy of my respect will get it, be it male or female. I am actually relieved my simping phase is over, and now I’m finally able to look past the beauty and prettiness of women. A lot of old and experienced men have been right about such toxic women; it’s just that those guys have been labelled problematic and misogynistic, so even associating with their beliefs lands us in hot water.

Historical_Plate_318 · 2024-07-23T08:52:38+00:00

Bro most female teachers are literally a disgrace to humanity. Girls and gays have perfect grades whatever they do. Very annoying

Asatmaya · 2024-07-23T12:49:13+00:00

So, clearly, the correct formulation is, "Teach all people to treat everyone properly."

jmac323 · 2024-07-23T15:58:56+00:00

My husband has taught my stepson to treat others with respect by the example we set. We’ve always raised him to treat others how you want to be treated. We don’t focus on him treating girls specifically one way. It is people in general.

It is important that we set an example of a healthy relationship between us for him so he recognizes what is unhealthy behaviors in relationships. This isn’t because he is a boy, it is because we love him and want him to have healthy relationships with people. I don’t know why it would be just one gender, I don’t want my son to treat anyone like shit, boy or girl. We’ve always told him that both genders can be perpetrators of violence and crime. Not to trust a situation with a stranger just because that stranger might be a woman, for instance.

Ugly1998 · 2024-07-23T16:30:24+00:00

Teach boys to treat women/girls better.

From my understanding that's what schools do anyway at least from my experience. They heavily punish boys for hurting girls and barely punish girls for the same thing.

The mentality of "real men don't hit women" got pushed a lot in my school and others I've seen. So from all this I'd say they need to teach girls the same that "real women don't hit men or boys" and start to actually punish girls for hitting other boys.

I saw it a lot in my school and the teachers just didn't care because in their eyes "girls can't hurt boys" so they just let them.

I don't know where this mentality that apparently boys can freely get away with bad behaviour. If anything girls get away with this type of behaviour more.

AbysmalDescent · 2024-07-23T20:30:35+00:00

It's crazy the amount of manipulative, destructive, hurtful, violent and sexist bullshit that women throw at men on a daily basis that just gets passed off as "girls will be girls". Boys have already been taught how to treat girls for a very long time, it's girls who need to be taught how to treat boys.

Also, if women want to teach men how to treat women properly, it's very simple. Reward good behavior, punish bad behavior and stay consistent. Women already have the power of the carrot and the stick over men, and still consistently choose to reward the very toxic traits in men that they attack them for.

coping_man · 2024-07-23T13:02:58+00:00

they dont mean "women" they mean "feminists" and since they are the true real feminists and they leave the work of fixing their imagined problems to the government, and "properly" is defined as "making me happy" what it exactly means is:

"I need the government to socially engineer boys to do exactly what will make me feel happy and comfortable all the time and act like the fictional guys in my cartoons."

bigskycaniac · 2024-07-23T17:17:42+00:00

Men have by and large been kinder to me than women have.

Do with that what you will.

haaku-san · 2024-07-23T19:53:03+00:00

women have serious social/communication issues and nobody notices. how about teaching women to not be psychos.

a guy will keep to himself and people will have an issue with that. a girl will start drama, instigate fights, get aggressive, ruin relationships, get people fired from their jobs, gossip all the time, but nobody cares about that.

Particular-Tap1211 · 2024-07-23T08:21:15+00:00

Isn't this your whole schooling experience!

StarZax · 2024-07-23T12:45:52+00:00

This rhetoric is just a stupid slogan that isn't meant to do anything

I've seen some girls IRL say shit like « we should educate men »

Aren't you already ? Mothers and teachers ? Do you think that criminals and rapists don't already know that what they're doing is bad and that only education is lacking ?

It's just stuff that's spewed by people who are legit brainwashed. As a slogan, it's absolutely not meant to accomplish anything but fuel hatred between men and women.

AmbitionOfTruth · 2024-07-23T15:56:28+00:00

Waiting for the "If you will not be turned, you will be destroyed" bit.

bigskycaniac · 2024-07-23T17:17:42+00:00

Men have by and large been kinder to me than women have.

Do with that what you will.

Expert_Funny_9337 · 2024-07-23T18:13:01+00:00

Now imagine if parents say that they will teach their daughter to respect boys, I can only imagine how feminists will be super fucking pissed 🤣

antifeminist3 · 2024-07-23T20:12:15+00:00

"Teaching boys to treat women properly."

By framing it this way, the unspoken lessen is that boys are bad (and need to be taught), but girls are not.

michaelpaoli · 2024-07-24T06:43:43+00:00

Twitter/X. Not that anything intelligent is to be expected from there with that platform

Musk is an *sshole, and runs that platform accordingly. Most have given up and left that platform years ago. So, yeah, really generally ought not pay attention to the sh*t on that platform ... and that's mostly what it is. I haven't used it in years. So, don't give it any attention, let it quietly fade into obscurity.

Ambitious-Reach-1186 · 2024-07-24T05:10:18+00:00

Well if by properly, they mean leaving women alone like they asked for, I think progress is being made these days

conradfart · 2024-07-23T09:14:15+00:00

I think lessons for everyone on treating everyone with respect would go a long way. Judging by current standards in schools a lot of girls missed that lesson because educators had a biased belief they would have less problematic behaviour by default, and a lot of teen boys think any behaviour goes as long as they don't sexually assault or hit girls.

CalmOrder2024 · 2024-07-23T15:35:55+00:00

There needs to be education on this topic across the board for BOTH sexes. People have become too selfish and self-centered.

gaedikus · 2024-07-23T17:39:47+00:00

like any other concept: the more time and energy you give to it, the more power and legitimacy it has.

if you approach this defensively, you're implying that this attack is legitimate. if you dismiss it immediately, you've sapped its energy all but completely.

almost like talking to a child who tells you macaroni and cheese comes from a blue duck. "how silly.", and then disengage. there's no discourse to be had about it because it's a predicated on a flawed, fallacious position.

Extreme_Spread9636 · 2024-07-23T19:03:33+00:00

I find it really concerning that treatment is always viewed as something that can be one in one correct way. Something that is so contextual, yet incredibly prone to be abused. On top of that, no information is given whether boys are being treated right (again, contextual and perspectively). It's like listening to a court hearing from strictly one side. This is a key element within the way movements operate. Wordplays.

Status-Syllabub-3722 · 2024-07-23T19:10:49+00:00

This is the original sin all over again.

mrmensplights · 2024-07-23T23:08:26+00:00

Teach women to treat boys properly

This is just a euphemism for mind control. The only thing traditional gender norms and progressive gender norms have in common is that they both sacrifice men to accomplish their goals. Fall in line, soldier.

TheShyDreamer · 2024-07-24T06:23:19+00:00

Unpopular opinion : I see many men go all in for a relationship expecting nothing from a woman they treat her like a queen just for existing . These same put of their way to criticise/ mock men when expect reciprocity from the woman and this leads to women think that the man who worships them just for existing and doesn't expect reciprocity is green flag. This gives women more confidence to hate on men

Grow_peace_in_Bedlam · 2024-07-25T03:55:12+00:00

I'm going to teach my boy to expect women to treat him properly and only to treat them properly when they've done the same to him.

lowerclasswhiteman · 2024-07-25T21:34:24+00:00

This notion gets perpetuated when (in my theory not based on any other fact than men are far more likley to become criminals if raised in single mother households) that when their dad leaves the mother is either (again just my theory) angry towards to father and takes it out on her son or doesn't know that boys need to learn that you can't treat a girl the same as a boy because what seems lighthearted to us (like the blue collar fuck you jokes) are detrimental to them so they grow up acting bad towards women and men but single mothers with their heads up their ass to hear the echo of their girl power chant only see it happening to girls and then the cycle continues and is further exasperated feeding into the aforementioned causes of single mother's not raising their sons right.

IN ORDER FOR CHILDREN TO GROW UP AND BE WELL ROUNDED THERE NEEDS TO BE A MOTHER AND A FATHER

This goes for single father's too because we don't handle emotion the same when a boy grows up in a single father household they're are far more callous and emotionally absent.

MegaJ0NATR0N · 2024-07-25T23:51:12+00:00

Women avoid accountability like the plague. So it’s always the man’s fault no matter what

beowulves · 2024-07-26T18:08:55+00:00

I did. Then I was sexually assaulted by a woman 30 years older than me.

Blauwpetje · 2024-07-24T05:59:47+00:00

Many boys need to be taught to approach girls at all. Instead of being supported, they’re told all the time how they can do it wrong, which makes them feel like it’s safer to stay away from girls, or at least have no romantic or sexual intentions. The whole thing comes close to heterophobia.

Sea_Treat7982 · 2024-07-23T17:45:03+00:00

Raise boys to be men that turn women off. Women hate men who open doors for them and are chivalrous. It turns them off. They will never spread for these guys.

BrokenArrowIncidents · 2024-07-23T21:21:36+00:00

To be a man is to be strong and respect women. We are blessed with more physical strength and natural intimidation than women, so respect starts with us. Women who don’t respect men don’t respect men because they are scared. Everyone reading this and feeling jaded by society, please realize that if you start loving and respecting the women in your life, you will find that they will begin respecting you as well

AeronNation · 2024-07-24T12:11:34+00:00

…. Yall are missing the point…. Stay in your little think tank though….

6ofh · 2024-07-23T10:35:33+00:00

Buddy. Who is more dangerous. As a gender. Is it women?

I’ve come right round fwiw. I used to be a feminist. Then I said I was an equalist, because I was also obsessed with LoK. Then for a while I was like a female MRA and then like an incel except not because sex is technically easy for women, just say yes, lmao.

Now I call myself a misanthrope. Much easier this way. No one in my life can get mad about this and make it personal. I only like animals.

Who do you think is more afraid in your world? Is it the men? What are they afraid of? Their reps? Or their lives (as in dying not ruining)?

Title	"Teaching boys to treat women properly."
Author	DarkBehindTheStars
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Date	July 23, 2024 7:29 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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