Why do American politicians suck up to women voters but never male voters?

TheNattyJew · 2024-10-16T12:32:48+00:00

Sadly all too often men will even attack other men who are trying to advocate for Men's rights. "Just suck it up bro"

VariousScallion8597 · 2024-10-16T11:52:46+00:00

Women vote consistently in large numbers. They volunteer. They go door to door. They also have large social networks that can help push out the vote. That's the main reason.

Secondary reasons:

Media is now heavily dominated by women. All those women out of university are in writing and marketing and journalism. They are also in admin in academia and in production for media companies. This gives them a lot of influence over who gets to do the interview and what questions are asked. So they also shape the media landscape by focusing and championing women's issues.

Men have blundered. Men care about society. Women care about women. Making women powerful just creates a society that increasingly caters just to women even at the expense of literally everything else.

True-Persimmon-7148 · 2024-10-16T12:40:40+00:00

Women Are Wonderful Hypothesis.

Both men and women are biased in favor of women. We tend to associate more positive traits with the female gender than the male gender. We sympathize with women more, we are measurably more sensitive to women's suffering, and we are significantly more likely to act for a woman in trouble than a man.

A politician has very little to gain by attempting to appeal to male voters. Very few men would even care, and virtually no women would. As a matter of fact, any attempt to campaign on any male issues would probably lead to feminists branding the candidate a misogynist, so it would damage his/her campaign more than anything.

On a related note, women are also exceedingly solipsistic. If you've ever wondered why women by and large seem almost physically incapable of empathizing with men, simply ask yourself: would caring about men benefit her in the current situation? Any time and effort spent towards the betterment of a man's current circumstances could reasonably spent on herself. In certain circumstances, yes, women will give the appearance of acting selflessly, but it's generally done with the end goal of benefiting herself.

When you recognize that women are basically hardwired to not give a shit about men, their behavior makes a great deal more sense.

heyitsagoodusername · 2024-10-16T13:33:31+00:00

most men can see through bullshit

Proud-Cheesecake-813 · 2024-10-16T14:36:59+00:00

It’s just like any other section of society. Take movies - many have been incredibly misandrist - specifically ensuring the movie replaces male characters with female ones and making sure the ‘male gaze’ isn’t entertained. These movies bomb. Same happens in politics; Hilary Clinton spent her campaign lambasting men and claiming the future was female. She lost to Donald Trump - the guy with multiple affairs/wives. Society ignores men then recoils in shock when men fight back. At the end of the day, everyone for the last 50 years has been selfish but men. We have let women leave us behind at school, university and now the workforce. We believed this was equality, but women wanted it all - without caring about what we got. So we have to have the same attitude as them, to truly form an equal balance. We do what benefits us, whether that’s work, family, success - we put ourselves first. Because no-one else cares about us.

Cool-Breezy-Rain · 2024-10-16T15:15:55+00:00

It's because "MEN" is not considered a political demographic.

There's Conservative white men, Black Men, Gay men, And Hispanic men

But no "men" in general.

Men in general are not recognized as having unique issues and experiences pertaining to them. Liberals are terrified of MEN organizing under one umbrella because when we do, we will have ultimate and endless power.

That's why gay men are lumped into LGBT and conveniently associated with women while black men's issues get drowned out merely in blackness.

If Conservative white men united with gay men, black men, hispanic men etc. It would devastate a lot of political and corporate agendas.

Men_And_The_Election · 2024-10-16T13:07:45+00:00

This is a great question and one I have explored in my book and blog. I call it the Democratic Disconnect and I think Democrats have bought into the “men are privileged oppressors” line from left wing adademia. With that as a basis, it hard for them to reach out to men as a group.

Life_Grade1900 · 2024-10-16T12:52:47+00:00

Men are busy doing things like keeping the water and power systems running. The oil flowing. The food growing, etc.

Women on the other hand are busy with things like putting together the HR newsletter. They have time for politics, men don't because we have real responsibility.

Since women stop existing if no one is paying attention to them, they reach out to other women because they will grt that feedback they need to keep existing. We're too busy

Yoda-Anon · 2024-10-16T12:11:19+00:00

Because male voters can typically be counted on to make logical and sometimes tough decisions when it comes to voting. Women are emotional creatures and therefore have to have their emotions tickled to get them to vote a particular way.

Getting the female vote often means whether a person/topic gets elected/voted in … that is why so much of politics is emotional rather than logical.

TipTapdooper260 · 2024-10-16T15:23:54+00:00

Cause....."Feminism" & ........"Equality"

Cause women are........ "Oppressed"

& all men are ......"the Problem"......

imextremelymoderate · 2024-10-16T17:27:12+00:00

It's a simple cost benefit analysis. If you suck up to women voters there is very little to no pushback from Men voters. If you suck up to men voters there will be pushback from women voters

bmihlfeith · 2024-10-16T13:01:25+00:00

I don’t see any wrong answers here. One thing I think is clear is that women are easily swayed by emotion and will vote purely based on emotion rather than making sometimes very tough logical decisions.

Women will also vote for security versus freedom (risk taking.)

ggleblanc2 · 2024-10-16T12:02:34+00:00

Kamala's team just made a pitch to black men. And someone made a commercial for Harris aiming at white men but it came off as for white effeminate men.

Kamala Harris unveils plan for Black men as Election Day nears

Pro-Kamala Harris spot targeting ‘real men’ ripped as ‘cringiest political ad ever’

63daddy · 2024-10-16T14:53:33+00:00

Society is gynocentric.
Men tend to vote more on issues such as the economy, taxes, international relations, etc, whereas women tend to be influenced more by identity politics and other social issues. Politicians can win women’s votes and lose few men’s votes in the process.

NohoTwoPointOh · 2024-10-16T18:25:30+00:00

Numbers. They make up a higher portion of the electorate—especially now with many of the younger voters being “single issue voters” because of abortion.
Most susceptible to marketing. There’s a reason tee-vee ads are aimed at women (particularly black American women). Ever wonder why 7% of the population appears in nearly 100% of commercials? It’s because it works. We’re talking significant numbers.

This reasearch article is dryer than a popcorn fart and as long as the Joker’s rap sheet, but it highlights exactly what I’m describing. Fans of the series Mad Men may see some familiar, real-life themes. There’s a reason for the “80% of purchases” rule. Politics is simply sales and marketing of ideas and people.

Men are less likely to be single-issue voters and more likely to vote on policies. Why go through all that complicated bullshit trying to rationally and logically convince a voter when you can simply run a reality television-themed ad that says “Donald Trump wants to take your pussy away” and get the vote with minimal effort?
On the same vein as the debunked pay gap myth, women work fewer hours on the average. This means more time spent volunteering and time spent on “passion projects “. Even when working, they spend more time “multitasking”. Anyone who works a job where videoconferencing is required knows who “cams up” and who never does. This melds into point #5…
Social media usage. Need I explain this?? Hopefully not.

ImperatorMajorianus · 2024-10-16T15:08:00+00:00

The fact that women care more about the ability to kill their own offspring so they can have careless sex with everyone without accountability instead of the state of the economy says enough to me.

Giving them the right to vote without holding them accountable and putting them up for the draft was a mistake. Emotional voters make bad voters.

GeneratorxxRex · 2024-10-16T16:04:15+00:00

male voters very rearly bring up their specific issues when voting whilewomen do it all the time. look up what are the biggest priorities right now, for men it is the iconomy/non specific/ while for women it is abortion/specific for women/

CompetitiveOffer5339 · 2024-10-16T16:38:47+00:00

She’s gonna have to say something good and supportive of men at some point. She’s a crazy feminist, and not the brightest bulb. But I’m pretty sure she understands this.

Confident-Cod6221 · 2024-10-16T20:18:24+00:00

b/c men don't move as a collective, which to be clear, is unfortunate. If we did, they would pander to us as a voting demographic more. on the bright side i guess there's less group think amongst men, but on the bad said we also suffer from loneliness as disporpontionate rates.

Comfortable_Change_6 · 2024-10-16T18:43:13+00:00

Pull emotional strings vs. Use logic and propose solutions.

Which one would you do?

Lovebomber777 · 2024-10-16T19:27:54+00:00

More i read this sub, more i know that unless MEN as a collective stand up, this will not change. It doesn't take too much too... Remember, if men want it bad enough, they can take it. Problem is that there is no unity.

PS: did you know taking part in this sub, bans you from other subs like r/thatisinsane etc... So yeas, men need to stand up.

Futureman999 · 2024-10-16T22:41:00+00:00

I swear to god, in the US everyone is terrified of women. Being accused of sexual harassment or rape, or losing an election because they didn't pander harderr to the women's vote.

Seriously, I'm fed up. When will it end?

hendrixski · 2024-10-17T10:10:59+00:00

She's not losing support among "men". She's losing support among 1) young men and 2) black men.

The rightward shift among young men is pretty stark. She's probably going to Joe Rogan to stem the bleeding. She won't win that group. But they don't vote so it's probably not her top priority.

Black men vote in higher percentages. They largely vote democratic but there's still a drop. So black men are a top priority for the Harris campaign.

Harris has been reaching out to black male voters like crazy.

She has economic policies specifically targeted for black men.
She has talking points such as how she's not taking a single black men's vote for granted but rather intends to win every one.
She's been on venues with large black male audiences (most recently with Charlemagne Tha God).
Etc. Etc.

She's wooing a male vote alright. Not a blanket of all men. But some specific groups of men. And damn she's really putting in the hard work.

gmnotyet · 2024-10-16T20:17:12+00:00

Kamala is losing men by 16 points and it may cost her the election, so they might want to rethink this.

MattTheBruce · 2024-10-16T20:28:30+00:00

Because women are more responsive to appeals to their emotions.

Nervous_Session6656 · 2024-10-17T09:12:57+00:00

Oh fuck, the US is the same as Korea!

No, the whole world is the same!

SecTeff · 2024-10-17T18:12:11+00:00

I’m not from the USA but follow some of the politics. The issue is the same in the U.K. really.

That said I did read this news article about a Democrat strategy to target male voters using Walz https://www.mprnews.org/story/2024/10/14/with-hunting-party-walz-invites-moderate-male-voters-into-the-fold

Anton_Machiavelli · 2024-10-16T14:25:30+00:00

Most of these women lost their minds when Roe V. Wade was overturned.. They just can't rap their heads around the fact that some states think that baby deletion should be illegal. That's why they are surging for Harris. I think most of the men voting for Harris are of the woke, soy infused lispy variety with ambiguous sexuality.

swm412 · 2024-10-16T12:18:10+00:00

Women like women, they feel that a woman is more honest than a man. Men can be swayed by an attractive woman. I view the platforms of all candidates and vote for the candidate I feel will do the best job in the position that they have been elected to.

m8ushido · 2024-10-16T13:53:38+00:00

The ending of Roe v Wade along with other project 2025 points have made women the main target of the race. Corporate media never looks at real problems just “popular “ problems that don’t affect their bottom line or the agenda their rich owners have or try to sell. I mainly vote Dem cuz I’m not rich and that’s the only people the R party helps while blocking any other legislation cuz of Dem do help real peoole then they can get votes

KingPeverell · 2024-10-16T19:09:04+00:00

It's the Americans stupid woke and feminist culture.

This whole bullshit propagated when some American men actually started paying attention and acknowledging this stupidity.

2024-10-17T05:54:53+00:00

Men are historically the ones who topple governments and do revolutions. Keeping them weak also protects the power of the bourgeoisie. Women are weaker and control most of the consumer spending and are less likely to take up arms.

bhullj11 · 2024-10-17T06:22:27+00:00

Women are more susceptible to groupthink and hivemind. This is also why advertising targeting women is so effective. Men are more disagreeable and likely to question things. Also men naturally take more interest in politics and will vote based on things like economics and foreign policy and not just what benefits them directly.

outhouse_wholesaler · 2024-10-17T10:52:26+00:00

Probably because a) if they said anything positive about men then they’d lose women voters and b) men will probably just vote for who they want regardless.

Bewpadewp · 2024-10-17T15:06:18+00:00

Modern Western culture puts women on a pedestal and treats them as the only citizens of actual value.

Meanwhile, men are firmly considered second-class citizens, inherently bad by nature, and their opinions are not valued because society has decided that all men's thoughts and desires are bad, and all women's thoughts and desires are good.

Silent-Sprinkles1545 · 2024-10-18T17:30:27+00:00

Because woken vote with their emotions and are therefore easier to manipulate

skcuf2 · 2024-10-16T15:38:50+00:00

I think men are more likely to be into politics and therefore more educated. Whether or not the education is worth a damn is a different question.

PossibilityNo8765 · 2024-10-16T12:58:58+00:00

Women are an easier demographic as a whole. How would you suck up to male voters? Abortions are something that's important to most women. Latin men, white men and black men want different things. It'd be impossible to suck up to men as a whole group. Unless a politician offered mandatory daily blow jobs. I think every man would vote for that

Far_Jeweler40 · 2024-10-17T10:09:21+00:00

The Trump campaign is almost entirely focusing on men. Why do you try and make men the victim?

Omecore65 · 2024-10-16T15:51:55+00:00

Women are swing voters. Men consistently vote conservative around 75-80% of the population.

michaelpaoli · 2024-10-16T22:24:10+00:00

American politicians suck up to women voters but never male voters?
male voters
taboo to appeal to

Uhm, no, they target and appear to (many) male voters. Generally just use different tactics - basically use what works. The suck up approach mostly doesn't work for male voters. Instead they mostly tend to target and appeal to, e.g. the machismo - and sexism (but often not to excess), e.g. guns, hunting, putting women down, macho male image, sports, money/economy, hard grunt work, strength, military, machismo/male, family/fatherhood, etc., etc.

So ... they very much get targeted and appealed to ... just very different approach and tactics used going for the male voters. Hell, most all the sh*t that comes out of Trump's mouth is trying to appeal to male voters ... even when he attempts to gain women voters with his gunk like "I love women" - he can't/won't give up also trying to appeal to male voters at the same time.

TheGamecockNurse · 2024-10-16T19:46:43+00:00

What kind of pandering are you looking for? And why do you need it? What outreach do you need from the candidates outside their political statements.

What is an issue that disproportionately affects men that is politically viable?

medicinal_bulgogi · 2024-10-17T01:15:10+00:00

This isn’t really true. Kamala has started a whole campaign to attract men

bluehorserunning · 2024-10-17T03:24:27+00:00

Trump is absolutely sucking up to male voters.

Title	Why do American politicians suck up to women voters but never male voters?
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Harris has been reaching out to black male voters like crazy.