Which candidate will be the best for men's rights?

randomthoughts1050 · 2024-10-26T18:32:10+00:00

When over half the votes come from women and most men are simps/white knights, they don't need to support MRA as a platform

Main-Tiger8593 · 2024-10-26T18:47:50+00:00

seriously how can somebody claim the left or the right cares about mens rights?

they are both bad because of different reasons but people compare apples to oranges to claim one side does not hate men...

UWontHearMeAnyway · 2024-10-26T19:25:53+00:00

At this point it isn't who's for men... it's who will not make things worse. Sadly, that same mentality goes for nearly every issue plaguing this country.

Forsaken-Papaya-1675 · 2024-10-26T18:31:51+00:00

Noone gives a shit.

Extension-Humor4281 · 2024-10-26T18:26:49+00:00

There is no candidate that's best FOR men's rights. No candidate will ever make that their platform. The closest you'll come is a candidate that doesn't seek to advance women at the expense of men (ie affirmative action and DEI policies).

Fun_Distribution5693 · 2024-10-27T08:10:57+00:00

In Australia we now have a minister for men's behaviour change. That's kind of bullshit you get as a country descends into feminist madness. Take heed and vote for the guy who won't inflict that on your country.

mutant59 · 2024-10-26T18:40:01+00:00

Wealth will matter far more than gender under Trump.

Downtown-Campaign536 · 2024-10-26T20:10:45+00:00

Democrats hate men.

TheRealJamesHoffa · 2024-10-27T03:32:14+00:00

Neither candidate supports men’s rights. It’s not a platform they run on. All of media is catered to women and therefore campaigns are too.

Simonsss143242 · 2024-10-27T05:25:23+00:00

None.

Nobody in politics cares about men or about mens rights.

throwaway44444455 · 2024-10-26T19:20:34+00:00

Trump doesn’t support men’s rights, but at least he doesn’t support DEI, affirmative action, and other policies like women’s exclusive college and business grants like Kamala does, despite women already making up the majority of college graduates and new startup businesses.

Trump will keep it mostly status quo, while Kamala will definitely implement radical feminist policies, so Trump is a better option I think.

And then there’s the Kamala ads saying things like “real men vote Kamala” otherwise you’re “insecure” with your masculinity.

And the fact that 90% of Kamala’s fan base I’ve seen keep talking about how she’s a woman, and that is apparently supposed to somehow make her better than a male candidate and is one reason to vote for her.

Which is just blatant sexism, imagine if you said the opposite and said you would like to vote for Trump because he’s a man.

It would be crazy to say something like that, yet this is the narrative they’re pushing as to why you should vote for her.

Therefore I would say it’s better to vote for the lesser evil and go for Trump. He won’t make things better for men, but at least he won’t deliberately make it worse like she will.

VariousScallion8597 · 2024-10-26T18:22:13+00:00

Neither. But rhetorically Trump.

Negative_Procedure_7 · 2024-10-27T05:12:57+00:00

both wings belong to the same bird

throwaway0408800 · 2024-10-26T19:22:45+00:00

Mens' rights are going in the gutter either way. Most people here will never wake up to the reality that it's not a gender issue, it's a class issue

TrilIias · 2024-10-27T04:16:58+00:00

Neither will be good for men's rights, it's more about which will be worse.

The obvious answer is that Kamala would be worse. If you want an example from just the other week, when asked if there have ever been any las that granted the government control over men's bodies, she confidently responded "no." Every man who has reached the age of 18 knows this is factually incorrect, anyone with a high school level education knows she was incorrect. I think she knows she was incorrect. It really is the new "Women have always been the primary victims of men's deaths in war."

Harris and the rest of the Democrats refuse to publicly acknowledge any legal disadvantage men have ever faced, no matter how blatant. Does anyone think she's every going to be able to do anything for men's rights while also trying to pretend that men don't lack any rights?

Again, Trump isn't much better, and it's not like he's going to make conscription gender equal, but at least he doesn't hate men so much that he has to lie to his supporters to deny discrimination against men.

1976Tom · 2024-10-26T23:17:58+00:00

Trump

PlanktonRoyal52 · 2024-10-26T19:33:30+00:00

Neither but if you want to make man-haters suffer then Trump.

T-72B3OBR2023 · 2024-10-26T22:16:27+00:00

Well for a fact Kamala Harris wont.

disayle32 · 2024-10-26T22:02:47+00:00

When the Bad Bad Orange Man was president, the economy was better, which benefitted men who needed good jobs to provide for themselves and/or their families. Prices of food, gasoline, and other necessities were lower, which benefitted everyone, including men. The world was more peaceful, which benefitted men who make up the overwhelming majority of deaths in war. And the Department of Education was reigning in the terrible college sexual assault kangaroo courts, which benefitted falsely accused men.

I know who I'm voting for, mean tweets and all.

Opening-Scar-8796 · 2024-10-29T21:11:04+00:00

No politician is for men. Left or right.

The left advances policies that harm men and gaslight Men for women issues.

The right loves war, ignores mental health, anti Union and porn ban.

SidewaysGiraffe · 2024-10-26T19:53:58+00:00

For which office? Remember that your state Congress and governor (or emperor, if you're in Illinois) have FAR more of an impact on your day-to-day life than anyone in Washington, and even there, Congress has considerably more power than the President.

sgt_oddball_17 · 2024-10-26T20:33:22+00:00

Trump, but only because the Democrats are actively anti-Male.

63daddy · 2024-10-27T02:45:12+00:00

Trump rolled back at least some of the discrimination against college men under Tiyle IX. (Initiated by Obama). Harris and Biden not only reversed Trump’s changes but introduced even more discriminatory mandates.

Harris is pretending to support men and backpedaling in an attempt to win the swing states but if she wins she’ll go back to her woke in a heart beat.

Neither candidate will be great for men’s rights, but Trump has proven to be a better option than Harris in that regard.

EnormousPurpleGarden · 2024-10-27T03:33:29+00:00

The left is misandrist. The right is misanthropic. They both hate men; the difference is that the right also hates women.

Harris is a feminist who will ignore men's issues. Donald Trump is a literal fascist who will actively make everything worse for everyone by eroding democratic institutions, undermining the rule of law, and disassembling everything that makes the US government and society function; he's publicly said as much.

I think it's pretty clear who the lesser evil is.

CaptiveAmerican767 · 2024-10-27T01:44:55+00:00

I'm voting Trump all the way

B0GGZIE · 2024-10-26T19:14:28+00:00

We don't have a candidate. If you're rich and male, it's Trump. If you're a white knight/male feminist, it's Harris. If you're looking for "ideal" fits.

In the grand scheme it's far too polarizing for either candidate to openly support men's rights, because one doesn't care and the other will turn off nearly their entire base.

Blue collar average men will benefit more from a Harris presidency, as will much of the country. Personally I'm not interested in voting for someone that won't at least benefit me in the short term.

That said, we're far better off looking at local candidates for state representation or even the city level that will be interested in moving any type of equity for us. Nationally, it's difficult because with cancel culture if you're seen to favor men, you'll be labeled as anti-feminist and forgotten. Locally, except the aforementioned lower education costs, more things can be accomplished that benefit men without the appearance of doing so at the cost of women.

We all understand we don't need or want anything at the expense of women, we just want some equity in certain areas.

Strontium_9T · 2024-10-27T00:45:01+00:00

Why are men who vote Democrat all betas?

wolfpanzer · 2024-10-26T19:04:00+00:00

Kamala is pro-war. Trump is anti. The conflicts we have now originated during Biden-Harris. Vote Kamala to get drafted and die on foreign soil.

Whole-Ad-1147 · 2024-10-26T18:43:39+00:00

That’s a broad brush. We have more than general rights, men have specific needs.

Apart-Dog1591 · 2024-10-26T22:35:03+00:00

Trump will be neutral, Kamala would be a disaster

oreverthrowaway · 2024-10-26T20:40:51+00:00

I... think it's absurd this is even a question. Media is absolutely doing an amazing job pushing propaganda. One thing I can confidently say is, American election is done for if Kamala wins. The fact that she's even this close is a shame and says a lot about our system's integrity and health.

VP approval rating of 35% to astonishing 46% immediately weeks following the switch-a-roo.

No_Reaction_2168 · 2024-10-26T19:48:09+00:00

Neither.

emperor42 · 2024-10-26T22:47:16+00:00

Wich side of the civil war is best for us slaves?

Neither, both sides own slaves, therefore, they're both equally bad. Both sides have racists so they're both equally bad.

This is this sub sometimes when it comes to this. MRA's are by definition, progressive, in the sense that we want true equality of genders. If you think both sides are bad, that's fair, but it should be pretty obvious wich one is closer to you.

LiquidDreamtime · 2024-10-27T02:02:33+00:00

The liberals and the conservatives see most men (especially poor men) as fodder for the industrial military complex. As long as we continue to die and make rich folks richer, they will keep our rights to the absolute minimum.

If you go far enough left; ending poverty, ending mass incarceration, raising the social floor, and providing better access to all health services are priorities. But there isn’t any politicians in the US advocating for any of those things.

unityofsaints · 2024-10-27T01:17:02+00:00

Peter Dutton

Is0prene · 2024-10-27T12:03:13+00:00

Obviously it’s Harris because she picked Tampon Tim as her VP which has done great things for men, such as putting tampon dispensers in all the men’s bathrooms. What else would those men do in the bathroom without having their tampons easily accessible?

CarefulSection6157 · 2024-10-27T18:15:36+00:00

I want to start a men's rights party in my country!

aj2467 · 2024-10-26T19:24:17+00:00

Well voting for a woman would obviously not be the best. If any man is voting for Harris they are part of the problem.

MasterChiefSierra711 · 2024-10-27T04:02:22+00:00

Smile - Trump of course.

KelVarnsenIII · 2024-10-26T20:45:48+00:00

Neither party will ever do anything for me. Or Fathwrs. I wrote in .myself for president and for many other state and federal offices. For the DA election, I literally wrote in Fathers Rights.

Neither party deserves my vote, and I wanted to vote for someone I felt comfortable with and whom I knew represented my beliefs. I finally felt comfortable and happy with my vote. I'll never vote for a D or an R again.

If we can all come together on a consensus write-in candidate, we could quietly give someone a chance without publicly acknowledging it. From my research, there are roughly 40 MILLION men getting screwed over from child support.

If we can get a candidate and vp candidate. We can organize online and possibly change the outcome in the next election. Imagine if we could really pull it off. What a quiet revolution it would be. 🙂 Change could happen with the stroke of a pen and executive order.

AigisxLabrys · 2024-10-27T00:47:25+00:00

None.

Hot-Influence320 · 2024-10-28T03:59:34+00:00

First of all, as others have pointed, sadly there is not a single party that cares - or even pretends to care - about men's rights. (Neither in the US nor in most other countries.) So it comes down not to who is best for men's rights but rather to which party is less bad for men.

I think Harris is worse for the following reasons :

The Democratic party's program caters to women but almost completely ignores men.
In a 2018 Twitter post, she suggested that no law supposedly gave the government power over the male body, referring to abortion. But the draft is one obvious such law, and the fact she ignored it shows her ignorance of men's issues.
In a 2019 interview, she repeated the wage gap lie, saying that in the US women were paid 80% of what men earned for the same work. Again, this shows her ignorance of male and gendered issues.
As a prosecutor, Harris has been unduly harsh in handing out prison sentences for minor nonviolent marijuana offenses, most offenders being black men. She has been nicknamed "Copmala" because of that. (Now she's turning around and wants to legalize marijuana.)
Worse, she also literally withheld DNA evidence that could have saved Kevin Cooper, a likely innocent black man, from death row. This is one of my biggest concerns with her. She literally caused the death of one innocent man.
The Democrats are the party of war and escalation, and war is a very gendered issue, especially in Ukraine right now. They kept giving billions to Ukraine and Israel for free. By contrast, Trump has shown that he is willing to strike peace deals through negociating (their mantra of "peace through strength") rather than escalating conflicts paid with the lives of other men (as in Ukraine) and refusing to negotiate until completely unattainable goals are reached (as the West does in Ukraine now by refusing to accept anything less than the restoration of prewar borders, which is factually impossible now unless the US engages Russia directly, which is not going to happen). He presented a peace plan for the Middle East and sealed the Abraham accords with Israel in 2020 - these were not accepted by Palestine and didn't have any impact but it's better than nothing and shows he is willing to put ideas forward and solve conflicts throught diplomacy, not endless wars. Of course Trump is not perfect in this regard - he reportedly told Netanyahu to "finish the job" in Gaza (I guess having a presidential candidate who is anything less than unconditionally pro-Israel is utopian in the US) - but again, at least, he seems to want conflicts to end. He has also expressed concern about the threat of nuclear war.

At least Harris doesn't base her whole campaign on being a woman like Hillary Clinton did, and I respect her more for that. Still the worse candidate for men's rights in my opinion.

So I'm voting for Trump.

Song_of_Pain · 2024-10-26T19:24:50+00:00

Trump called out the Exonerated Five AKA the Central Park Five after they were exonerated. He is not a supporter of Mens' Rights as this sub thinks about them.

Harris will be slightly better. It's still not great.

flashliberty5467 · 2024-10-26T21:28:52+00:00

Personally I’m planning on voting for Jill stein of the Green Party in the November election for multiple reasons

Ending the wars and ensuring world peace switching to a single payer’s healthcare system

Building public housing and thus significantly reducing homelessness

https://www.facebook.com/GreenPartyofNJ/posts/sexual-mutilation-of-both-boys-and-girls-is-unethical-and-should-be-reconsidered/474049445979567/

Master_Baiter_64 · 2024-10-26T20:01:00+00:00

Unless you're a billionaire, Harris.

ShubNiggurath20 · 2024-10-27T10:33:27+00:00

No one.

IllustriousBowl4316 · 2024-10-27T21:13:56+00:00

None sorry there is no candidate that truly cares about not only men's rights but also children's rights. I'm ignorant on what is going on in the USA since I'm European and I don't like any of the candidates.

CacklingAmteater · 2024-10-27T22:58:22+00:00

Trump.

Gleichstellung4084 · 2024-10-28T15:52:22+00:00

Kamala is definitely having a career based on the ethical pedestral of "fighting the patriarchy". On the other hand, Trump has been profiting from the visceral reaction to that, however being a full on misanthropist.

A Trump administration would definitely lead the Dems to reassess their platform. But on the other hand, a Trump administration would deteriorate the level of respect and individual rights for everyone. So a VERY expensive lesson.

A Kamala administration would validate identity politics. The Republicans might react reasonably, still reaching out to men with a more reasonable voice than Trump. But they may still go on full Trump.

It is like being asked what I like more: Rotten sushi or Shit sandwich.

MannerNo7000 · 2024-10-28T19:44:35+00:00

Harris.

Burple_Baze · 2024-10-27T06:44:19+00:00

This is a pointless question to ask on reddit, theres not a more one sided platform out there than this one.

King_Kingly · 2024-10-27T14:25:39+00:00

ANYONE BUT TRUMP

After_Fix_2191 · 2024-10-27T01:17:38+00:00

Without a doubt Harris and Waltz. There's absolutely no comparison.

Melodic_Arachnid_298 · 2024-10-26T19:01:26+00:00

Neither. Trump is anti-woman but not pro-man. Harris is pro-woman but not anti-man. It's a wash for men specifically.

SymphonicAnarchy · 2024-10-26T19:36:27+00:00

If by men’s rights you mean their right to have a say in abortion taken away, their right to tampons in their bathrooms, and their right to change their gender at whatever age they want, then Kamala for sure.

HotRaise4194 · 2024-10-27T01:04:03+00:00

I’m going with the one that’s a total misogynist.

KirillNek0 · 2024-10-27T10:18:13+00:00

Not the left one.

centraledtemped · 2024-10-27T21:49:52+00:00

Neither. Liberals and Conservatives are both anti male. Conservatives anti crime advocacy is on the basis that men are inherently violent

WeEatBabies · 2024-10-26T19:11:40+00:00

None, republicans support common-law marriages, democrats support reducing the right to due process, the right to fair employment hiring.

If I were in the U.S. I would strike my vote!

Title	Which candidate will be the best for men's rights?
Author	Material-Emu-6235
Upvotes	123
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Date	October 26, 2024 6:19 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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