The Guardian/Richard Reeves on why Democrats lost young men

SarcasticallyCandour · 2024-11-09T06:03:43+00:00

Note to self: when I want a demographic to vote for me or support me, don't shit all over them for 20 years and then say "vote for me".

You can also see the pathetic, way they try to manipulate men by saying vote for Kamala to support women in your life. There's no limit to this ideological BS.

Feminists/The Left/ Progressives cannot even consider there may be many issues men or boys face. Their brains are completely rotten with "male privilege" ideology.

Embarrassed-Tune9038 · 2024-11-09T11:42:31+00:00

There is an emerging gender-oriented political consciousness among men. The Democrats wanted to plug their ears and pretend it ain't happening.

ChimpPimp20 · 2024-11-09T09:54:48+00:00

Gasp.

Maybe feminism wasn't about "equality for everybody" after all.

marchingrunjump · 2024-11-09T15:05:16+00:00

One thing is what men voted for. Another is all the grass root people running the campaign for their team. I wonder whether there was an absence of younger men among the blue team grassroots. Was there ever an “where are all the men” realization moment? Or did the blue team young men consist of people ready to check their privilege anytime challenged?

How come they didn’t notice?

BKEnjoyerV2 · 2024-11-09T18:36:29+00:00

My dad heard something that women may have voted for Trump more because they have sons and the Dems absolutely did nothing for them

Manoj_Malhotra · 2024-11-09T17:09:07+00:00

Men and women under 44 moved right by the same rate.

https://x.com/EricLevitz/status/1855018698790125869

Both_Relationship_62 · 2024-11-09T10:49:19+00:00

Very good article with a relatively short but very good explanation of why Democrats lost men in this election and how they could have avoided that

I believe now is the perfect time to share this article as much as possible. Please share it on your social media, show it to your friends. Show it to as many people as possible.

Also, I found Richard Reeves' page on Facebook and I was slightly shocked to see it has only some 200+ subscribers. Then I found the social media pages of his American Institute for Boys and Men and saw that they also have very small numbers of subscribers. I believe it's important to subscribe to them. Links:

Richard Reeves on Facebook

American Institute for Boys and Men: website, Twitter, YouTube, Instagram

I'm not affiliated with them, it's not a commercial promotion. I just believe it's important to increase their audience as much as possible. They look serious and solid and cannot possibly be mistaken for a right-wing or misogynistic group. They seem like a perfect organization for promoting men's rights. Subscribe, leave reactions and comments, share the links. I believe it's important.

Ekhoi · 2024-11-10T04:35:06+00:00

This article was a masterpiece, and the fact that it was allowed to publish on leftist media was mind blowing. But I’m glad it’s there.

I have pointed this out before: the right never really solved men’s issues, and they never needed to. Turns out, when one side tells men that they are the problem and “vote for me or you’re a misogynist”, the other side needs to do literally anything but that. And that’s what the right did, and they won.

But this just goes to show that demonizing men is not the answer. And tbh, the author did not even catch the full scope of misandry, because he never mentioned leftist rhetoric such as man vs bear and other radical feminist spaces, which of course is always going to be associated with the left because most leftists, despite claiming to be for equality, don’t push back against misandry.

I hope this is the beginning of men’s issues being taken seriously. Guys. This is a spark. Maybe we can turn it into a real movement.

And if it turns out that only the Republicans will start to take it seriously, then maybe that just means Democrats will have to lose a few more elections before they start seriously addressing misandry and men’s rights. Either way, we can start making our voices heard and really advocate for pro-men legislation and cultural shifts. This is our opportunity.

DarkseidThen · 2024-11-11T03:36:54+00:00

The liberal/left wing ecosystem has normalized misandry and broadcasted to their base. Whenever issues affecting men and boys are even broached, many feminists will respond with "what about women issues?" or "Well women have dealt wit h this for such and such years."

And that is why they will continue to lose the next generation of men. If part of gender equity is men expected to be advocates for women, then the same has to be true for women advocating for men.

ChemistryFederal6387 · 2024-11-09T09:33:40+00:00

The Guardian is weird one.

Much of their comment output is little more than worthless propaganda, as fake as the fake news they condemn. Except from a feminist perspective.

Yet among the dross there is the occasional gem.

Ok-Importance-6815 · 2024-11-09T13:11:59+00:00

I'm not even convinced they lost because of that, they ran an incumbent from a troubled administration, switched candidate mid election, picked Harris who lost very badly in her last primary, and ran an establishment center right centrist with no new ideas - which is a strategy that has been losing elections all over the west, to top it all off in the weeks before the election they were talking about it like it was in the bag.

The Democrats didn't lose because young men who voted for Biden voted for Trump en masse they lost because millions of people who voted for Biden stayed home and that is entirely the Democrat parties fault for doing everything in their power to lose

Tevorino · 2024-11-09T20:13:19+00:00

The Guardian is rated by Media Bias Fact Check as having a Centre-Left bias, and I'm inclined to agree. Out of all the major private media publications in the UK it remains my preferred one because they tend to be reasonably fair and factual in most of their reporting articles, while their commentary articles feature a diverse range of left-wing viewpoints. Unfortunately that includes giving a platform to vile misandrist Julie Bindel, and they still haven't taken down her 2006 article where she calls for domestic terrorism in the final paragraph. That is offset by them also giving a platform to much more reasonable, level-headed commentators like Richard Reeves.

One factor that seems to be overlooked here, is that there are a lot of women who are either centrist, centre-right, or quite far to the right, and who appeal to men who find an increasing percentage of women on the left to be insufferable. For example, my girlfriend is centrist and I have found my own views gradually shifting in that direction as I spend more time with her. At the end of the day, I care more about overall intellectual compatibility than someone having the same political views as me, and as my own (20th century social liberal) views become increasingly uncommon I am preferring the company (both romantic and platonic) of people whose views fall slightly to the right of mine over those on the "woke" left who think they have a licence to casually bash men and/or white people in my presence. Bigotry was never exclusively the domain of the far right, and now it has found a home with both the far left and the "mainstream" left (I have my doubts about just how many people's views are actually represented by the major left-wing publications).

It wasn't like this ten years ago. At that time, most of my friends and acquaintances were well to the left of centre and random man-bashing and white-bashing were both rare. The change happened very gradually, and my own life events occupied enough of my attention that I didn't really notice it until I left my job to go back to university and get a second degree. The constant bashing affects most people's self-esteem and makes them want to look for some kind of refuge from it. If that refuse is to be found to the right of the new centre, then we shouldn't be surprised that men are migrating in that direction.

It's worth noting that Trump's total vote count is basically unchanged in 2024 compared to 2020. Harris lost because millions of votes that went to Biden in 2020, did not go to her in 2024. It's not like those votes went to a third party instead; the combined vote share of the third parties was also down in 2024. Millions of people who voted for Biden in 2020 were so disgusted by 2024 that they chose not to vote at all. That's why Trump is going back to the White House. Anyone seriously interested in knowing why Harris lost should be conducting a poll of people who voted for Biden in 2020 and who chose not to vote in 2024.

Sardemanation · 2024-11-12T15:40:23+00:00

This. This is the main reason the left lost me and I’m glad people are pointing this out. This article was right on the money.

nikdahl · 2024-11-09T16:55:40+00:00

Guardian is a great journalistic organization.

Title	The Guardian/Richard Reeves on why Democrats lost young men
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