Red Pill and Long Term Relationships

leosandlattes · 2024-12-20T15:11:04+00:00

There is an entire red pill subreddit for this called Married Red Pill.

DzejSiDi · 2024-12-20T15:47:41+00:00

Does the Red Pill work for long-term relationships?

PUAs coined a term "game", which roughtly translates to "marketing" on sexual market. How long can you fare with pure marketing alone if you want longer-lasting relationship with your client?

So redpill expanded "sell yourself better" with "be a better product too". Theoretically speaking this should strengthen your LTR potential, but there are many caveats here, like TRP encouraging you for evacuating from bad relationship faster.

If status/money/looks (men) and looks (women) are all that is important in romantic relationships, then it would sound like long-term relationships are doomed to failure because, well, you're going to end up sitting in silence a lot if personality, shared interests and basic human decentness are irrelevant factors.

Those factors are not "irrelevant", they're just overshadowed by that you have listed at the beginning. For example, men will learn with age that "tight ass" is not enough, but they're attracted to what they're attracted to. Decency-maxxing have a high chance to lead to "deadbedroom" with a spouce that doesn't respect you. But hey, you're still in 'LTR', right?

I like (even if I am not buying it completely yet) Orion Taraban's view that marriage supposed to be monogamous, which mean one sexual partner; that means zero sexual partners is also a breach of contract.

Just liking somebody and having common interests is good enough for friends, for other types of relationship you want somebody "worth" something. One sex wants "great wife", other "great husband".

Schleudergang1400 · 2024-12-20T14:39:57+00:00

You are mixing up attraction, sex and attachment in the drive-model of love after Fisher.

Feisty-Saturn · 2024-12-20T14:04:10+00:00

Depending on how much status and money is apart of the equation I would say it works. It’s pretty easy to read about men cheating on their wives and their wives staying because of the money their husbands make.

There’s a lot of couples who end up having nothing to talk about even the ones who didn’t chase money or status. People becoming distant from their partner is fairly the normal.

Kingozejungle · 2024-12-20T12:35:30+00:00

They are initial attraction triggers, they are not all that is important. They are also much more substantial and simpler to improve upon than vague concepts like personality. 2mil is more than 1mil in the bank, a 23yo women is hotter than at 33, there is no such standard for personality. Thus teaching or coaching someone on attraction is reduced predominantly to the former.

As they are initial attraction triggers, optimally, they decrease in significance in authentic LTRs, while other attributes become more meaningful. So no, there is no direct contradiction between rp advice and LTRs. If you have a good personality it helps you get a foot in the door, and if you have a shit personality, well, it helps you get a foot in the door.

abaxeron · 2024-12-20T14:34:26+00:00

Prior to divorce, my very blue pill parents spent around 4-8 months in a row not talking to each other; I'd say the causation just isn't there.

Look up older threads where people discussed why women leave men after they show vulnerability, and why women deny leaving men after they have shown vulnerability. Look what blue pill women write. "She is not your mommy." "She is not your therapist." "You aren't entitled to trauma-dump on her."

According to the latest (last time I checked) report from US Census Bureau, 49.2 percent of women's first marriages dissolve before 20th anniversary.

chocobolamo · 2024-12-21T15:17:55+00:00

the red pill teaches men what women need from men in long term relationships too. How women test men, the idea that you should welcome these tests, pass with flying colors, and set your woman at ease. Be a rock, create a nice island, all the things women need to keep them in states of mind where they are fun, happy, loving, and very giving in all the right ways. It teaches men how to be the guy they always dreamed of.

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James_M_Croft · 2024-12-21T00:48:19+00:00

Usually people compare using red pill in romantic relationships as being similar to "using a shoe to hammer a nail" i.e. it works. But it is not its purpose. TRP for better or for worse is focused in sex not romance. there are variations for it. like MRP but standard trp? ill adviseable. As yourself. Because trp tries to get the biggest number of women possible. it also means the least interesting group possible. (Cause if they were interesting, they wouldnt be single).

Suddenfury · 2024-12-23T19:11:13+00:00

One part of the Red Pill, me included, believes that LTR generally doesn't work. Or rather, LTR is a poor sexual strategy.

Tren_troll · 2024-12-20T13:05:47+00:00

then it would sound like long-term relationships are doomed to failure because, well, you're going to end up sitting in silence a lot if personality, shared interests and basic human decentness are irrelevant factors.

You're overestimating how much time people in LTRs spend talking. At the very most you talk about what happened at work at the end of the day and then go to sleep.

Having money in the bank account is more important for a successful LTR.

Title	Red Pill and Long Term Relationships
Author	MrTTripz
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Date	December 20, 2024 12:08 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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