My "the convenience of not all men " theory is proven in these screenshots.

Revolutionary-Focus7 · 2025-03-13T07:24:42+00:00

Also, waiting until this person learns that: 1) "Women and children first" was never an official maritime policy, it was just considered the chivalrous thing for a man to do in an emergency, to ensure the most vulnerable were protected, even if it cost him his own life 2) while Captain Smith did give the recommendation to evacuate women and children first, it was Second Officer Lightoller who enforced "women and children ONLY"; First Officer Murdoch allowed some men to board if there was room left

(Accidentally letting out my inner autistic history buff, oops)

Significant-Ratio936 · 2025-03-13T09:11:00+00:00

Another striking fact is of course the current war in Ukraine, where men are not allowed to leave the country as they have to fight a horrible war whereas women are free to leave the country. There are some things written about this but it feels like such a clear case of injustice towards men that one would hope to see more indignation about this.

Revolutionary-Focus7 · 2025-03-13T07:36:58+00:00

As for your main point, I do agree that the animosity towards men feels overblown at times, like they assume men being kind or heroic always carries an ulterior motive. It feels like a Catch-22, that you're either a bad guy for being a violent sexual predator or a bad guy for being too nice and caring.

I envy that aspect of traditional gender roles, where men were expected to treat women with kindness and dignity, and women didn't assume nefarious intent by default because of some men who never learned to behave themselves.

GasPatient4153 · 2025-03-13T10:47:46+00:00

Women don't have a problem appropriating other people suffering and opression to make a victims out of themselves. And they do this because they know they will get a help and attention from men because of it. Men don't tend to make a victims out od themselves or even complain because they know nobody will help them. Also I cant help but notice that I never heard of women sacrificing themselves for men. And considering how many modern women are unwiling to even cooporate with men that not gonna change in the near future.

NonbinaryYolo · 2025-03-13T13:35:59+00:00

Feminists revision of history is such bullshit.

Have you heard about how programming use to be female dominated, but men 'stole' the industry when it started tech started to become viable?

Not even true. If you go back, and look at rosters men have pretty much always dominated programming by 75%+

SvitlanaLeo · 2025-03-13T08:15:58+00:00

I don't know what's going on at sea, but on land the United Nations rescued women, but not men, from Bosnia when the genocide unfolded there.

SvitlanaLeo · 2025-03-13T08:18:18+00:00

Titanic really pisses off vulgar intersectionalists because it clearly demonstrates a case where belonging to the group "rich" was analogous to belonging to the group "woman", and they are trying to propagate that women are analogous to the poor, black, LGBTQ people, etc.

omegaphallic · 2025-03-13T11:39:08+00:00

I got this crazy idea, how about having proper safety rules & equiptment so no one has to be sacrificed at all?

Heroism is a cool idea, but the thing that no one talks about is ideally you do things right so heroes aren't needed, the need for acts of heroism are failure of society.

AdVivid9056 · 2025-03-13T09:09:38+00:00

What about the "2x as likely to survive"? How is this stated?

I mean did they use sinkings of ships with the exact numbers of women and men on board and did the math? Or did they just took all male and female survivors of all ships that sunk to state that men survive more often?

Though I don't know what the methods for this were, this is something that has to be asked, which I find very sad. Cause a lot of statistics and researches are made like this.

Neveah_Hope_Dreams · 2025-03-13T21:43:04+00:00

Just because the ‘women and children first’ was an unofficial policy that ships chose to practice doesn’t mean it is justified and make it a myth. So many boys and men have lost their lives on this tragedy, families left without a father and torn apart. How dare they minimise this.

jessi387 · 2025-03-13T07:07:46+00:00

Well it’s shows how dependent they are on men for their safety. And if they are not willing to comply, then they could very easily find themselves as the ones who are disposable .

alphonsus90 · 2025-03-14T00:03:21+00:00

You know some people may get mad at me for this, and maybe they would be right to but.... I would've shot the captain.

AbysmalDescent · 2025-03-13T14:09:19+00:00

how exactly would just one man enforce this against 2000 people? I'm sure a lot of men wanted to save their own lives but if the men weren't willing to die for the sake of women and children, I doubt a single man would have been able to stop them. Especially in such a time critical emergency. Both the men and the women would have had to be there to enforce it.

Local-Willingness784 · 2025-03-14T02:46:27+00:00

its cool that they are going mask off with the disposability of men tho, they really value more even the memory of a dead man who sacrificed himself out of "chivalry" rather than valuing the lives of men today, I wonder if they would like that if the ones dying were their loved ones, tho seeing how callously men are treated I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't cared.

meeralakshmi · 2025-03-16T06:27:45+00:00

Why do women deserve to survive a shipwreck more than men? Why are children better off without their father than their mother? If anything parents and children should have been allowed to go first.

AdSpecial7366 · 2025-03-15T14:15:08+00:00

Oh, and this men were more likely to survive is a myth.

u/problem_redditor made a post about this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/pscqt5/critiquing_the_mikael_elinderoscar_erixson_study/

AfghanistanIsTaliban · 2025-03-15T07:37:15+00:00

chivalrous

So sick of this modern conception of gendered chivalry.

"Chivalry" was just a set of rules that medieval knights had to follow in war. Rules like not hurting Christian non-combatants or POWs, or not deserting.

Telling men to be more "chivalrous" is like telling men to follow the Geneva Conventions. Makes no sense.

AdSpecial7366 · 2025-03-15T14:11:13+00:00

Saw this on my twitter feed, saw some man-hating femcels there. Realized twitter is hopeless, deleted it. Seriously, wtf is elon doing? Bro, ban these sexist people.

meeralakshmi · 2025-03-16T06:30:37+00:00

Very telling that these women still expect men to die for them, they only want equality that benefits them. Would it not be benevolent sexism to put women in the same category as children?

AdSpecial7366 · 2025-03-15T14:14:22+00:00

I would like to use their logic against them.

"Who pointed the gun? A man, right?"

yuendeming1994 · 2025-03-16T06:45:25+00:00

Can i conclude that the captain is misandrous and commited androcide?

Title	My "the convenience of not all men " theory is proven in these screenshots.
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