What else have we being lied to about?

MoreAlfa · 2021-03-22T14:09:12+00:00

The government doesn't want to help you. The government wants to control you.

scissor_me_timbers00 · 2021-03-22T13:39:34+00:00

Our entire national political and cultural discourse is shifted well leftwards of reality. The entire race discourse is divorced from reality. The trans discourse is pretty divorced from reality. The stability and integrity of our money and financial systems is lied about. The reason and nature of our foreign wars are often lied about. The immigration issue is lied about. This country is absolutely fucked. We just have to wait for things to unfold more. But we are running on fumes and most people are simply living in fashionable fictions. Democracy is a fiction, in truth we live in an oligarchy. The whole meta narrative of “Progress” in political modernity since the French rev is fraught w problems. Progress has mostly been tech-industrial, meaning for the last 200 years, economic growth and tech advancement has been the source of progress, and modern “democratic” bureaucratic govs have been parasitical on this largely.

Whisper · 2021-03-22T15:21:53+00:00

Most of what they are selling you as food is toxic and causes obesity.
A university degree is not the path to a better financial future.
Soldiers and police officers are not badass heroes.
Democracy is not the opposite of authoritarianism, it is a form of authoritarianism.
Your vote does not count. No votes count. The counts are rigged.
Masks don't work.
Charitable foundations are usually either money laundering operations, scams, or a way for politicians to accept bribes.
Book deals and speaking fees are also ways for politicians to accept bribes.
Most large companies and organizations are horrifically inefficient and institutionally incompetent.
The vast majority of people are slaves to their basest and most childish impulses, and don't even know it.
There is no god.
There are no souls. You are a meat robot. When you're dead, that's it.
Stupid is genetic, and epigenetic, and cannot be fixed. Reading books doesn't help.
Medical professionals are dumb as a sack of hammers and can't diagnose or fix anything outside a narrow scope of problems they have seen over and over again.
A large portion of scientific research papers are fraudulently tweaked to say what the principal investigator, or the sponsor, wants to hear.
A large portion of the remainder are invalid due to flawed methods.
There is no cause so noble that is doesn't attract idiots and assholes. A great deal of propaganda consists simply of finding the other sides' idiots and assholes, and pointing as many microphones and cameras as possible at them.
Anything that makes you feel pleasure (as opposed to contentment) target dopamine receptors, and dopamine receptors always down-regulate. If it gets you off, or high, it's addictive, and you can only get off on it so many times before the thrill is gone.
Your body has all sorts of bits that are not designed to last. Medical science will not fix this in your lifetime.
The opinion of a scientist is not a scientific result. Most scientists have at least a few completely incorrect beliefs about their own field of expertise.
Hard work doesn't always, or even usually, pay off. Knowing what to do is far more important than doing it diligently.
Specific knowledge trumps general education.
It also trumps intelligence.
For this reason, centralization of power or policy almost always makes things generally worse.
Every organization that outlives its original leadership no longer serves its original goals.
Society does not exist to help or support you. It is simply there as the emergent result of other people's effort to help themselves.
Diversity + proximity + segregation = conflict. Multiculturalism doesn't work.
High IQ men outnumber high IQ women by a large margin. Your girlfriend will not be as smart as you. There will never be as many high-achieving women as men.
A significant portion of people are so stupid or mentally ill that they are unemployable.
Psychotherapy doesn't work. No one gets better who wouldn't have gotten better anyway.
Most genius-level talents are wasted because others simply cannot work with them.
There is almost no overlap between nice guys and great men. Most people who vastly improve life for humans everywhere are assholes.
If you don't have at least one or two beliefs that your culture would retaliate against you for voicing, then you have no actual beliefs, you are just echoing someone else's.
If you receive something you are not paying for, you are the product, not the customer.
Women are generally incompetent at every level of intelligence, because the powerful human protective instinct towards women shelters them from the pressures that force men to become useful or die.
Race actually does sometimes correlate to some things that matter. But saying exactly how is social and political suicide.
Human beings are hardwired for tribalism and tribal warfare. What isn't hardwired is what criteria they use to sort themselves into tribes.
A significant percentage of human beings are too stupid to be able to understand that they are stupid.
The motivations of someone smarter than you will never make sense to you unless they stop to explain. If someone does something that appears dumb, they probably are, but the dumb one just might be you.
Accepting the "findings" of "science" is an act of religious faith unless you bother to read and understand the research. How do you know the earth is round? How do you know the universe had a beginning?
Money is a measure of fucks given. If someone is not willing to pay for something, they don't actually care about it.
Some parents do not love their children. The biological hardwiring just breaks sometimes. Those children will sometimes be able to thrive anyway, but their scars will never heal.
Having children does not make you immortal. 500 years from now, it will not matter at all that someone who doesn't know your name got 1/1024th of their genes from you.
All love is conditional. Even the love of a parent for a child.
Cultural Marxism overthrew traditional culture because traditional culture was almost as shitty to live in, and people wanted an alternative. The "good old days" were terrible.
No human being is actually independent. Most of us can't grow our own food, and the ones who can, can only do so using tools they don't know how to build. "Independence", in humans, only means that we can pull our own weight within a mutually supporting group.
Some people just ain't ain't right, and will damage and disrupt any group or society they are part of. The only way the rest of us can have nice things is to detect and imprison, exile, or kill them as fast as possible.
These people don't align with any concrete social group like "psychopaths". Some psychopaths are incredibly useful, and society couldn't get by without them.
Evil is not the product of psychopathy, or lack of consideration for others, or lack of virtue, or anything like that. The worst evils of history were committed by nice, normal, loving, psychologically healthy people who were motivated by ideology.
Dogs are not wonderful, loving, or virtuous. They are simply bred to mimic human behaviours that signal devotion.
A significant portion of people would self-destruct if their every wish were granted.
Money actually doesn't buy happiness. Happiness is contentment, and by its very nature, it requires nothing beyond what one already has, so there is nothing to buy. Money can only buy pleasure.
However, lack of money can destroy happiness. It is impossible to be happy when one is worried about the future.
If you are psychologically unable to act submissive ever, you will not fit into any organization you did not have a hand in creating.
If you are unable to share the spotlight with others, you will never have any friends or allies, only sycophants and rivals.
In some professions, image is more important than ability. If you could conceivably get ahead by sucking the right cock, you are in one of those professions.
Most ideologies and economic theories are foolhardy attempts to change human nature with idealism. Any that are not will automatically sound selfish and vile to people who are not aware of this.
Communism has failed every time it has been tried. Anyone who makes excuses for this is a slave to wishful thinking.
Persistence cannot and does not overcome all problems.

Rene-Girard · 2021-03-22T13:38:06+00:00

Everything. Every message that needs to be fed you by force, like through schooling and mass media - is fed by force because the healthy mind naturally rejects it. Why do they invest in feeding people messages by force? To control you and your actions through your thoughts.

The concept of money is the biggest lie and the root for most other lies.

KingGerbz · 2021-03-22T18:46:06+00:00

The one and only priority the elites have is to ensure that they remain in power and the public remain their slaves. Everything and anything they do is in efforts to maintain and protect that status quo. They simply do not give a single flying fuck about you.

a_hot_sip · 2021-03-22T13:18:21+00:00

Read “The Culling of Man” if you’d like to know the actual truth about who runs and owns absolutely everything, can be a little disheartening though.

Thvt-One · 2021-03-22T17:58:57+00:00

This might be one of the best response sections on this subreddit

Snowboard18 · 2021-03-22T14:49:01+00:00

Religion is bullshit

It was created after some old dude in the past that had a realization that people need a moral code to follow to prevent anarchy and nihilism. If there were no religion people would realize that their is no rules to life, you can do whatever you want even if it’s bad. People would also fall into a hopeless mindset due to the realization that their is no heaven or god to go after death and people would become either depressed or nihilistic

new__vision · 2021-03-22T17:11:21+00:00

Lots of media misinformation about Covid-19.

Asymptomatic transmission of Covid-19 is rare, even among those who live together: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2774102

Outdoor transmission of Covid-19 is rare: https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2020/4/24/21233226/coronavirus-runners-cyclists-airborne-infectious-dose

HCQ is safe and effective at reducing Covid-19 hospitalizations and deaths. Is used widely in India and Africa where covid death rates are low: https://c19study.com

A Stanford study failed to find a benefit of forced-business closures and lockdowns: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/stanford-study-lockdowns-have-no-significant-effect-in-reducing-covid-19-may-even-spread-it

I could post a dozen more scientific papers but I'll leave it there.

gbizzle2 · 2021-03-22T13:02:48+00:00

The real question is what makes you not a part of mainstream society?

skyrunner22 · 2021-03-22T13:33:35+00:00

Everything

bachbozo · 2021-03-22T18:48:02+00:00

My Big Four

The Water: Fluoride is a neurotoxin and calcifies your pineal gland, plus most is classified as hazardous waste from the fertilizer industry. Yet it is haphazardly thrown into our drinking supply for no logical reason..

The Food: Sugar/Grains/Lectins fuel almost all of peoples' issues in hospitals. If the government actually cared for its citizens and not perpetuating an unsustainable reliance on fraudulent short term "medicine"; diabetes, cancer, heart disease, mental health issues etc. would essentially cease to exist.

The Federal Reserve: Not much else to say than these motherfuckers have corrupted our monetary system with the utmost precision and will continue stroking off the banks for the foreseeable future.

9/11: No steel infrastructure has EVER collapsed from fire in history, let alone two of the arguably greatest architectural feats (plus Tower 7) designed to handle hurricanes and a Boeing 747 collision in particular. They were without a doubt premeditated controlled demolitions. Here is a great journal summarizing my argument by three notable engineers.

https://www.europhysicsnews.org/articles/epn/pdf/2016/04/epn2016474p21.pdf

cringebot0 · 2021-03-22T20:08:33+00:00

A cabal of elites want to destroy all civilizations and replace it with mindless hedonism and materialism.

-since · 2021-03-22T18:35:14+00:00

Pretty much everything is bullshit these days. Don't trust anything with an external taint of subjectivity. Find truth in objectivity.

Governmental control,
Mass media hysteria,
social media is the most empty bullshit,
any type of modern politics is pretty bullshit (see left wing/ right wing etc),
modern "health and nutrition" is really dogshit and will continue to be so for a long time
most types of us vs them is simply divide and conquer disguised,
"Official education" is complete dogshit. Can't even learn how to learn these days.
pop psychology is shit (see fancy terms for everything to justify whatever, and special snowflake syndrome ),
religion is pretty shit these days,
personification of EVERYTHING (omg don't harm the tree or kill the fish. The rainforest is crying!!!),

overblown problems and lack of prioritization/ sense of scale

Anytime someone goes out of their way to blame someone or something in particular - CAPITALISM IS EVIL!!! Men are raping women everywhere!!!!

Economics is mostly bullshit these days too. Especially the fukin dollar

Most recently and most scarily COVIDerated - lockdowns to destroy our way of life, government control, losing more rights and freedoms, pushing mandatory vaccines on some crappy chinese flu, MASK EVERYWHERE OR YOUR A KAREN

Everything is so disconnected from reality these days. The list goes on and continues to grow daily.

Basically if you have any shred of critical thinking, or actual intelligence in this day and age, you'll be shaking your head at 90% of what you see or hear.

leftajar · 2021-03-22T19:36:52+00:00

Literally everything.

All of identity politics is a lie: "Racism" and "sexism" are a scam; "transgenderism" is a mental disorder masquerading as a civil rights issue. White people are actually the least privileged group in the West, and are being blamed for everything by the actual most privileged group, which I'm not allowed to name or the sub will get banned.

The political system itself is a lie: representative government doesn't actually exist; it's merely a layer designed to obfuscate/mask the people who actually run the show.

The 20th century is a gigantic lie.

World War 1 and 2 were started based on lies (The Lusitania incident for WW1, and the oil embargo of Japan/running arms to Russia in violation of neutrality for WW2), and served the purpose of extending the control of the global central banking cartel.
The Cold War was fake; the whole point was to scare Americans into approving endless military spending that the banking cartel could use to extend their global reach.
The New Cold War with China is fake; you don't outsource all your manufacturing to your sworn enemy.

The people in charge want to conquer you by making you weak, and they do it by propagandizing you into thinking that evil is virtue.

Basically, everything is fake and gay.

ass-thetics · 2021-03-22T14:31:08+00:00

Drugs...

throwaway8884204 · 2021-03-22T18:09:20+00:00

Unirronically, the hidden folk/elves/faeries are literally real, just not of this world. You can contact them in dreams and altered states of consciousness.

Millstone50 · 2021-03-22T23:13:23+00:00

Circumcision

that_tom_ · 2021-03-22T19:55:22+00:00

Just because you haven’t learned something yet doesn’t mean you were lied to.

i-am-the-prize · 2021-03-22T20:52:14+00:00

Nasim Taleb said it straight:

“The three most harmful addictions are heroin, carbohydrates, and a monthly salary.” << focus on the last one... are you a cog?

snusknugen · 2021-03-22T18:51:53+00:00

Geopolitics. The idea of there being some "bad muchachos" on the world stage that act in such a way because they are evil or nefarious. Usually, it's because they act against US interests on the world stage.

catsdontsmile · 2021-03-22T18:28:14+00:00

White supremacy being on the raise.

hulk181 · 2021-03-23T01:12:46+00:00

It's a total lie that diversity is a benefit to any country. Look at France or England and you'll see the native culture being destroyed.

kclanton80 · 2021-03-22T20:10:14+00:00

Mostly everything unfortunately

h2oape · 2021-03-22T20:42:21+00:00

The conspiracy theories and lies and irrational nonsense from the Republicans.

Ignorance is wisdom.

Education is brainwashing.

The experts are lying unless my political views are justified by it.

All the times we've been wrong , we're still right.

We don't need to be right or honest or reasonable, we just have to win so we can impose our opinions.

We are the victims.

HoedownInBrownTown · 2021-03-22T20:49:44+00:00

Watch the Adam Curtis documentaries The Century of the Self, All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace, and Hypernormalisation, they cover well the phenomena reference by others here about politics, and western society generally.

Halflotus1 · 2021-03-23T00:10:04+00:00

Everything. Literally everything.

TVans14 · 2021-03-23T00:36:47+00:00

This is a good way to go down a slippery slope into "Everything is a lie" conspiracy theory way too fast. I find the following to be helpful:

Consider that you need skills to make the things you want to happen. If doing "what you're supposed to do", i.e. doing what you've been taught, doesn't work, then you're a blue-piller in that skill and should seek the red pill version of that skill. Everything else doesn't matter.

Religion springs to mind. Our god is good but couldn't stop our priests from diddling little boys? Probably a fake god, or the priest is a fake priest, or both.

spiritualtraveller99 · 2021-04-27T09:00:34+00:00

Thanks for the question. Let me reiterate with a new question: what can we do? We know that trp teachings works regarding relationships. But a big part is self improvement. I ask: what can we do to escape the rat race? Can investing be a good idea? What can we do to not be bothered do much by those increasing restriction? how we adapt to a fast changing world that wants to keeps us in our houses? Part of my answer is trying to reach an automatic income level that permits me to work part time and take some of my time back and cultivating a strong net of friends. I did the second part almost unintentionally but thanks to that i now have a variety of options and people to see every time i want, and strong bonds made in the past and new ones that i’m cultivating. A tribe, in a sense. What is your solution?

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kaiserchungus · 2021-03-22T13:44:31+00:00

The biggest lie is that unregulated capitalism is not the cause for most of todays societal and enviromental problems. This is because of humans greedy nature. But as another poster said about "conspiracy theories": do not focus too much on such things.

W_O_M_B_A_T · 2021-03-22T17:04:44+00:00

Ignorance and apathy in others isn't the same thing as active lying. You are not owed it by others people to educate you. Educate yourself. You're not a victim here. Stop acting like a victim of some kind of arbitrary wrongdoing. Most people are stupid and ignorant, go figure.

The only issue is that in the past you preferred to listen to what other people were saying rather than researching, questioning your own previous knowledge. thinking critically and forming your own opinions. This isn't a crime however.

Rimefang · 2021-03-22T18:22:52+00:00

The Pledge of Allegiance for one. In Texas, we also recite the Texas Pledge, which I learned got changed after I left school. Now it sounds weird.

insuman · 2021-03-22T21:27:17+00:00

Begins jay and ends with ooze. Starts with holla and ends with a cost. Worth a little look into.

bumbuff · 2021-03-22T21:59:09+00:00

I saw most of these comments on a facebook post somewhere.

NichRigga- · 2021-03-22T22:18:05+00:00

Everything is perception.

Tezcatlipoca1993 · 2021-03-22T23:32:49+00:00

We equate beauty with virtuosity.

This particularly applies to women. We grow up believing that their angelic beauty is next to flawless, they have no inherent capacity to do or be evil.

Truth is they can be some of the most cold, ruthless, and pragmatic beings to live.

Ulysses was able to avoid the enchantment of the sirens in the Odyssey.

Don't fall into nihilism but be wary that beautiful beings can be just as capable of doing evil.

Noodlesoupe2 · 2021-03-22T23:58:36+00:00

Stop with this self pity nonsense. The world doesn’t exist to spoon feed you life advice you’re supposed to go through the journey to find the truth yourself. That’s like getting angry that Santa isn’t real. And most conspiracy theorists are retards who want to feel edgy and self important without accomplishing anything irl.

m0rty1g · 2021-03-23T00:24:06+00:00

The media is filled with propaganda

hulk181 · 2021-03-23T01:16:32+00:00

There is a difference among the races when it comes to intelligence, work ethic, criminality, and familial loyalty. But we have to act like everyone is the same and racism is the reason why some groups struggle.

Herdsengineers · 2021-03-23T01:47:05+00:00

Mainstream society, mainstream media, even the alternative media outlets, and especially social media - if you're gonna watch them, you gotta at least read all sides and realize the truth is somewhere between polarized viewpoints you're seeing. Best way is to go talk to people in the community with an open heart and open ears. Listen more than you talk too. You'll start to get a feel for what's real, what's not, and how much of both truth and lies people are buying and rejecting. Figuring out the answers to what's real and what's not is much more complex than headlines, news snippets, and one-line meme's with ironic face pics of cute animals, babies, and celebrities.

Pleasant_Call8839 · 2021-03-23T02:41:47+00:00

The war on terror. Islam being a religion of hate and violence.

tropicsGold · 2021-03-23T03:14:46+00:00

To this day they talk about McCarthy as a crazy right wing nut who was on a witch hunt. Notwithstanding the fact that history has proven that his allegations were spot on correct. Many of the key figures he called out were later proven to be Russian spies.

scorpionkinggg · 2021-03-23T06:21:13+00:00

I don’t have much to say in terms of the lies as it’s been pretty well covered in the thread.

But here is something mainstream society ISN’T telling you that you should know right now:

Go remote:

income arbitrage via living in a 2nd or 3rd world country while making the same money. Save!

Invest in crypto:

use savings via going remote to invest in crypto, but do your due diligence. If done correctly you can gain financial freedom within a few years.

Financial freedom.

Hereafter the world is your oyster. Rather then working to live, you can retire and work on passion projects.

Plenty_good_stuff · 2021-03-24T01:40:15+00:00

female desire, women actually get turned on by feeling inferior. I thank God everyday for making me a man.

tetrachromancy · 2021-03-24T03:27:19+00:00

Capitalism. The American Dream. Racism.

Class consciousness and uniting under that is the only hope but decades of red scare means Americans will have to die poor and sick instead.

michael1962-01 · 2021-03-31T14:14:03+00:00

Instrinsic value of paper money

insuman · 2021-03-22T13:57:26+00:00

allcryptal · 2021-03-22T19:46:32+00:00

Covid19. That should cover it. Once you realize that covid19 is a house of cards stacked with lies everything else should fall in place

Another big one is racial conflict. Most of it is manufactured with typical "acts of violence", by the police or individuals, are staged and not real. Same goes with mass shootings. They create these events to not only increase fear but to forward certain agendas

thelatelife · 2021-03-22T19:57:18+00:00

This thread just proves that so much of the red pill is super reactionary. Y'all are falling for the herd mentality just as much as the lefties, sad! At least its useful for getting laid

Fantawaters · 2021-03-22T22:37:46+00:00

I hope my entire reddit account doesn't get banned BUT:

-The earth is flat

- Evolution is false

- Jesus is the son of God the father, who created heaven and earth.

- The holocaust is predominantly a lie

- most of the food in supermarkets is toxic, and the food pyramid is a lie

- Flouride in water is bad for you

- The economy is completely debt based, pumping useless jobs and giving increasingly worthless paper or plastic to the people while the rich gain actual assets

- 9/11 was certainly not done by who it is supposed to be

- the media is owned by pretty much only a few people

- most of the people at the top of this wacky society are jewish

- coronavirus isn't real

That's all I can think of off the top of my head, but I'm sure there are many more I've forgotten, and many more I'm unaware of.

walt_sobchak69 · 2021-03-22T21:03:39+00:00

Pretty much the whole Shoah narrative. There's a reason why its illegal to even question the narrative in Europe. The whole story falls apart with even the slightest reasonable investigation.

Once you read non-Western accounts (Russian, Polish, Ukranian) you realize what a farce the whole thing is. Zionists used it to hustle Israel from the Palestinians. The USSR used it as propaganda to take away from their atrocities. The German work camps were inspected by the Red Cross up until 43 when the mass bombings made it impossible; the Russian gulags were far worse, & were never subject to any sort of international inspection.

There were some gassings by hardcore nazis at the end of the war, but the vast majority of deaths came from typhus, starvation etc. Roughly 2 million Hebrew deaths altogether. Read how the Russians got the commadent of Auschwitz to "confess" to a million deaths. Or how gas chambers were built after the war in the camps.

Further, anyone who was gassed by Zyklon B could not be cremated; their remains would be toxic even by air, let alone getting them out of the gas chambers. It would make no sense to use Zyklon B as the bodies would need to be disposed of far, far away from any living person or town : which wasn't done.

In another generation, this will be common sense in the West. The Arab world already knows this. Let me make clear, Im not denying the real evil of the Nazis (tattooing kids, evil medical experiments, ruthless military invasions etc). But they didnt march off people to gas chambers.

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