Q4ALL : Views or advices from the opposite pill that you agree with but you dont think it's applicable in real life?

Uncommon_Sense_12345 · 2018-09-11T01:30:15+00:00

The MRP idea that sexual attraction is the be all and foundation of a successful marriage.

Truth is lots of women marry for beta comforts, and if the woman knows how to fulfill her husband sexually he will not be able to tell the difference between her truly desiring him or just engaging to keep him happy.

jax006 · 2018-09-11T02:31:23+00:00

The BP idea that if I just "let my freak flag fly" and embrace the weirdness I would "do just fine" nah girls are into normies

MoodyBrizo · 2018-09-11T01:24:51+00:00

wanting to be equals with your partner. in theory, why wouldn't you want that? in practice, it makes me feel like we're siblings and not romantic partners. i want someone i look up to, and to look up to a person, we can't be equal.

Eartherry · 2018-09-11T03:44:19+00:00

I do agree that approaching women must be hard for men. Rejection doesn't feel great. But given the fact that women are always higher in value means if the tables were turned a very small percentage of men would be more worth it than staying single.

petrichordium · 2018-09-11T01:59:49+00:00

So despite being a blueish pill egalitarian feminist who is a male (vs “male feminist”) i agree that many women tend to fall for assertive narcissistic charlatans like me. (But i feel like all people do, men included).

The trouble is it takes YEARS (and generally a problematic upbringing, presentable genes, and good fashion sense) to develop these skills genuinely and organically. Like who goes and sets off to TRY and become a sociopath? You’re honestly better off trying to become a decent human being instead if you’re starting from ground zero. Just bc we make it look easy doesn’t mean you can too.

BirdManBrrrr · 2018-09-11T15:09:53+00:00

The mainstream tropes of "happy wife, happy life" and all that, which I hear constantly IRL. Keep your wife happy and in turn you'll be happy, yay everyone wins!

I'd love to think its that simple, yet in practice the more a guy actively tries to keep his woman happy the less happy she becomes, and of course the less happy she is the less happy the guy is since his efforts are not rewarded with much of anything from her end.

wub1234 · 2018-09-11T10:11:39+00:00

The basic theory behind the wall makes obvious sense, but in the dating 'market' that exists today it just doesn't work out the way that RP asserts.

Most dating advice for men is completely useless. If you are a total mess of a person then advising you to improve your appearance, or get your life together, is valid. There are a couple of other things that are valid.

But mostly it's just about persistence, your attitude to rejection, and luck. If you're not persistent then you will get nowhere. If you're not willing to accept tonnes of rejection, and not have it impact on your will, then you will get nowhere.

And the value of luck is underestimated, but there is a reason why it's called 'getting lucky'. Whatever you do, most women won't want you. Any attractive woman has an inordinate number of options today (admittedly many of them bad options, but they're still options), and they've (usually) been brainwashed into believing in romance, and the earth moving, and all of that abject nonsense. So you will get rejected in the overwhelming majority of encounters.

It is therefore possible that you could do absolutely everything right, and still strike out over and over again, just by the law of averages. So rather than have game, be really good looking, successful, whatever quality it may be, I would much rather be lucky.

passepar2t · 2018-09-11T01:36:36+00:00

It'd be nice if we didn't have to use dread game to keep our partners a bit insecure and invested in not getting complacent.

It'd also be nice if I could summon money from the ether and didn't have to go to work tomorrow.

flamingoinghome · 2018-09-11T08:31:16+00:00

The idea that initial raw lust, and keeping up sexual desire, is the most important thing in a relationship. You can get dumped by someone who LOVES the sex. You can get demoted to fuck buddy by someone who's super-into fucking you (guys, this goes for you too). If you are bad company, it's going to be a bad time, whatever goes on in the bedroom.

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SmurfESmurferson · 2018-09-11T13:12:24+00:00

"Life is so unpredictable and relationships are so complex; there's no way to predict relationships. All women are so different. All you have to do is tailor your approach to a woman you want, change to be what she wants, and you'll be successful eventually."

Two problems here. (1) Women are not different at their cores - they're all hypergamous and they're all prone to using emotions and feelings instead of logic and reason to make decisions; and (2) you can't tailor yourself and twist yourself into pretzels for this one woman you want. You make yourself into what you want; and then followup on the women who throw IOIs at you.

yasee · 2018-09-11T18:23:44+00:00

the theory behind dread game sounds sort of logical but it relies on a bunch of (what I consider) very questionable assumptions to the point where I doubt it works well in practice for most guys

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