Q4RP: What do you want marriage and divorced procedures to look like?

scrantonic1ty · 2016-07-23T06:30:49+00:00

There should be no pay-off for a no-fault divorce. If you're choosing to end a marriage because you've fallen out of love, there is no alimony, and the person who breaks the contract loses the kids.

Ultramegasaurus · 2016-07-23T07:56:53+00:00

The most important aspect that needs to be reformed is alimony. As of now, it's often a free meal ticket and allows women to sit on their asses all day. What alimony should be is a temporary support payment that ensures basic survival until the woman finds a job.

lollygagyo · 2016-07-23T08:35:43+00:00

It always seems to me like RPers want to just give their ex-wife no alimony (even though they selected her to be a 'feminine' woman without earning potential) and are super angsty about paying child support for their own children.

This has always seemed really fucked up and bizarre to me. Child support and alimony make sense. Yes, it's hard to feel like you're losing your income -- but all it really ensures is that your children are looked after if your ex-wife is their primary carer. Who's stingy with money when it comes to their own fucking kids? Every time I see someone raise these arguments I think, "You are a psychopath". I seriously think this is the kind of thing that only someone with 0 empathy and a very low ability to love could believe.

I can only imagine that most of these people are very young and can't really fathom the complexities of this situation.

betterdeadthanbeta · 2016-07-23T12:14:21+00:00

Marriage procedure:

Both parties are implanted with a device that will deliver a sustained electric shock any time they refuse to have sex with their partner, the pain should be equivalent or higher to being waterboarded and last several hours. When you do have sex with your partner however, the implants release a cocktail of heroin, MDMA, and viagra or flibanserin as appropriate.

You also have a slave collar that detonates if you have sex with anyone other than your partner, killing you instantly.

Divorce procedure:

Your kids should be executed if you get divorced to stop the spread of bastardry. People who are dumb enough to breed with someone they later get divorced to have no business breeding in the first place, and their children likely inherited their shitty DNA. Both parties should also be sterilized by medical professionals, then paraded through the streets and be spat upon by their neighbors and family, and finally exiled from the state.

TheScamr · 2016-07-23T07:59:57+00:00

When determine custody the court should have no regard for who was primary care giver before the divorce. Someone could be a primary caregiver but incompetently so and that incompetence could have been a major driving force in the divorce.

winndixie · 2016-07-23T17:20:42+00:00

I grew up in a culture where there is no divorce. It's just unheard of. If one is unhappy in marriage they try to make it happy. There is no such thing as divorce.

Let's face it, marriage is a way of telling your social and family circles to peer pressure you into staying with this one person. It BOTH acts as a way to "show off" your SO and your relationship, and as a way of saying "we'll last forever", because we will.

But feminism has decreased the value of marriage, saying its okay if "we'll last forever...for now". Why call it marriage? Why is it forever if it's okay that it's not? So why not just call it dating? What the fuck is an engagement? You either promise to be together forever, for every sense of that word, and dedicate your life, or you're just looking.

CircleT · 2016-07-23T17:54:04+00:00

You can only get married once. You can get divorced if you must, but then your status will be permanently divorced.
Infidelity is illegal, punishable by like a week in the stocks.
Only married people are allowed to vote. Data shows that married people are much more mindful about the health of society, single ladies and bernie bros just want their carousel riding and pot smoking subsidized.

[deleted] · 2016-07-23T20:45:34+00:00

I don't masturbate my ego with the wishing.

I just act based on what's there. Trp isn't about thinking and wishing, thats mra.

Acta non verba

Entropy-7 · 2016-07-23T04:31:06+00:00

Legal marriages and fault based divorce, but that will never happen.

In Canada and probably in some states the movement have been towards "common law" marriages where if you shack up for a couple of years the BOOM you have all the rights and obligations of being married including alimony and property division when you "divorce". It will never go back to strictly legal marriages because it is such a huge advantage for women. The onus is totally on the man to either secure a cohabitation agreement or simply torch the relationship at the 23 month mark if he doesn't want to end up "married". With legal marriages it is typically on the woman to secure a commitment and get the guy to sign on the dotted line. However, women can't or won't actively protect their own interests so the get the government to wave its magic wand.

No fault divorces also favour women because they can divorce for any reason or no reason at all. The government doesn't want to go back to a fault-based divorce because it prefers to have a system that is efficient rather than effective or just.

despisedlove2 · 2016-07-23T17:50:53+00:00

Zero upside to no fault divorce.

You want to destroy the relationship? Leave with what you own and what you contributed. Nothing else.

trpobserver · 2016-07-24T04:07:29+00:00

Marriage should be removed entirely as a legal term and marriage should occur entirely as a ceremony and, if the parties choose to do so, a contract can be formed under already existing contract law (though strengthening contract law would also help here).

This would also destroy most arguments against any other kinds of marriage. With this system, gay and straight couples default to equality.

If a couple is smart, what happens in a divorce is laid out in the contract as well.

Oh, and along with all this, alimony and child support go out the window. There is no good reason to force either party to take on significantly more risk than the other when entering into a marriage. I would say its a good thing if there is large and equal risk for both parties, as this means they both need to think long and hard about a decision that should be treated as one of the most important ones in your life, and often it isn't.

kick6 · 2016-07-25T16:08:03+00:00

I want one of two things:

either remove no-fault divorce
or remove cash & prizes

That's pretty much it.

AutoModerator · 2016-07-23T03:21:07+00:00

Attention!

You can post off topic/jokes/puns as a comment to this Automoderator message.
For "CMV" and "Question for X" Threads: Parent comments that aren't from the target group will be removed, along with their child replies.
If you want to agree with OP instead of challenging their view or if the question is not targeted at you, post it as an answer to this comment.
OP you can choose your own flair, just press Flair under your post!

Thanks for your cooperation and enjoy the discussion!

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

SunnyFoxes · 2016-07-23T05:52:46+00:00

Repeal the Marriage Law. There is to be no more marriage, no more divorce, no more asset division, no more false acusations, no "family court", no alimony. No wedding, no honeymoon. No lawyers making money off other people's misery. None of that. No government in peoples homes. No mixing of assets and income. No maintaining her or his lifestyle, B.S.

Only relationships and break ups.

If there are kids in the mix, the parents share the custody equally. 2 weeks with each parent, and there is no child maintenance paid to the other parent. Each parent pays only for the child when it is with them.

The parents must jointly open a bank account in the their child's name and both must equally pay the child maintenance for mutually agreed upon cost. Each parent has veto rights. And both parents have their own card to the account so they can pay for the mutually agreed upon child expenses, while the child is with them. Both must agree in text how that money is to be spent on the child and a record of the text agreement keep by both parents. Also the childs costs and payments will also be recorded. And bank statements kept as proof. Money from the account may only paid electronically, so payments appears on the monthly statements as proof and record. No cash payments or cash withdrawals are allowed. If a parent wants to pay for something in cash, they do so out of their own pocket. A seperate account is to be opened for the child's pocket money and the pocket money is paid the the child's pocket money account from the child's maintenance account after both parents agree on the amount and reasons for it. Should a parent steal, losses, abuses the child's maintenance money, they will be declared an unfit parent and the other parent will get all the control of the account.

If there is a dispute about the child then mediation can be sought from a outside impartial professional. Not her mother or friends. The professional's job is to mediate and represent the child interests not the parents. The mediator can not make one parent do something that the other is not doing equally as well. The mediator can however order both to equally pay, invest, etc for the child. The exception is for when a parent is declared unfit.

Only if one of the parents is PROVEN an unfit parent by a court will the custody and/or guardianship be removed / limmited by a court and the unfit parent will then pay more child maintenance to compensate the other parent for the loss of their time, etc. No father may be forced to pay child maintenance, if he did not agree to have the child in writing and he is not PROVEN to be the biological father by DNA paternity test. With the only exception being when the child is legally adopted by the father.

OfSpock · 2016-07-23T04:13:11+00:00

In an ideal world, father marries his daughter off at a prime age to a man who he knows is of decent character. There would be no divorce because the only men who are married are of good nature, and in this ideal world there would be no feminism to corrupt the women. Every good man is assured a virgin wife and every good woman is assured a man who will provide for her. Divorce would be very rare and saved for extreme cases, the punishment would only be inflicted upon the one who caused it. For example a woman that is adulterous, or a man that is adulterous with another man's wife, is to be executed.

Title	Q4RP: What do you want marriage and divorced procedures to look like?
Author	SipsSparklingWater
Upvotes	8
Comments	250
Date	July 23, 2016 3:21 AM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/4u6itu/q4rp_what_do_you_want_marriage_and_divorced/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/q4rp-what-do-you-want-marriage-and-divorced.273911 https://theredarchive.com/post/273911

Comments