Q4All: Is this woman's experience standard? Article: "I'm Fat and I Have Sex with Hot Strangers"

CherryGirl1986 · 2016-07-03T03:16:22+00:00

If you're a fat and ugly woman you can easily have sex, but you will definitely NOT have sex with the top 10% men.

Entropy-7 · 2016-07-03T05:15:15+00:00

Unless you are Melisandre or have some horrible disease then a woman who is DTF NSA can always find a willing dick.

Anyone who reads PUA knows about outcome independence and the fact that even the best players don't bat 1000. In the case of this woman, if IRL she went about and hit on men at a bar it would be a shock to her ego, but at the end of the night she could find at least one guy to sleep with. She swipes on Tinder and we have no idea of what her hit rate is.

So the SMP works differently for women but some basic principles still apply.

She is part of a niche market of left coast artsy types who, in many cases, are not so concerned about looks. There was a joke:

Why did God create S&M?

So fat chicks could get laid too.

I have no idea if she is into S&M but the culture is similar to the poly, fetish types that she seems to be into. And fat chicks are a fetish in their own right. Los Angeles has something like 4 million people, so go figure if she can't find a date on a Friday night.

On the other hand, teleport her to Biblefuck, Mississippi or here to China and she would be a total incel.

The last thing is that she says she gets with "hot" guys. I find that people's own SMV distorts their perceptions. Everyone understands that certain celebrities rate as a 9 or 10, but butt-ugly people have this weird scale where anyone who shows interest in them automatically becomes a 7 or an 8. We have no idea what these guys look like.

But getting back to my first point, most women are not DTF NSA. They want commitment or validation or resources or something to convince themselves they are not being used. Regardless of how many slut walks there are, most women need to convince themselves and others that they are not a slut.

This lady seems to have no problem with the term or the practice and so she can get laid as much as she wants.

Is she happy? She might be faking it but she seems to be comfortable in her own skin and that is part of what makes her (more) attractive.

As an AFC this is not hopeless. You can go down the ladder and fuck her - or at least someone like her - or you can go up the ladder and fuck someone gorgeous, if you are willing to invest in it.

EDIT: I would never fuck her but she would make a kick ass wing girl.

prometheangambit · 2016-07-02T23:19:56+00:00

I find this article convincing, and I'm not qualified to answer anything about a woman experience in the world without putting my proverbial foot in my mouth.

How can any average man survive this SMP? How can we compete when the most ugliest, low value women have millions of options at their finger tips?

Okay, so there's Alpha Bux, Alpha Fux, High Beta Fux (Married High Beta), Low Beta Bux, Omega Bux (prostitutes play their role here), Omega Sux.

I must play the red card because the answer's too obvious and these incel threads too numerous: you must become above-average in whatever niche you can by any means necessary. Even worse, this niche must be either A) feminine-approved or B) make money. Set a trend, gain social status among peers, work twelve-hour shifts, overcome psychological problems, lift more than the next guy, be cleverer than the next guy, and deal with the undeniable evolutionary and brutal fact that eggs matter more than sperm. Nobody cares about the average-man and they sure as hell don't care about the below-average man. They care about the above-average man.

If you can't become alpha, then become beta, if you can't be either, you're omega and you're fucked. The game won't change. Women won't lower their standards because nature won't lower her standards. Be Sisyphus about it.

“I leave Sisyphus at the foot of the mountain! One always finds one's burden again. But Sisyphus teaches the higher fidelity that negates the gods and raises rocks. He too concludes that all is well. This universe henceforth without a master seems to him neither sterile nor futile. Each atom of that stone, each mineral flake of that night filled mountain, in itself forms a world. The struggle itself toward the heights is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy” ― Albert Camus

DietCokeImOnMyKnees · 2016-07-03T07:38:03+00:00

Each guy was attractive in his own way.

Remember, this is coming from the morbidly obese woman that considers herself beautiful in her own way.
I'd like to see pictures of these gentlemen. My guess is that most of these men are not conventionally very attractive.

midnightvulpine · 2016-07-03T00:32:17+00:00

I think you're missing something here. She's not just any female. She may be large, but if you read the article it's obvious that she's confident in herself, she's clearly focused on what she wants and what she desires. She presents well. All things that make for a personality that can bypass physical imperfection.

The make experience could indeed be similar. For someone with the sort of personality she presents in the article. Someone who isn't ashamed of themselves and knows what they want.

Do I think she's happy? Yes. How old do you think she is? 'Ugly' is an opinion. Obviously plenty of men find her attractive. And alone? By choice, likely. Given her presented personality.

I think your post says a lot about you? You make vast assumptions about her and her character, obviously in opposition to the article's presentation and I'm sure in keeping with your own personal assumptions which fit within what you think it should be.

Likewise, you assume she's going out with 'hot' men when what she says in the article is they're all 'attractive in their own way'. That suggests the men she finds aren't what you lot would consider high value, likely. They're probably largely normal men. Your assumption of them being 'hot', again, says a lot about you and how closely you read the article.

I think you should reread it and try to keep your obvious biases from spinning it in your head.

GridReXX · 2016-07-03T09:41:54+00:00

Men have low sexual standards. You know this.

Page me when one of these "supremely hot" guys decides to marry or LTR her.

That's a more compelling OP.

I'm also questioning if I would find the men she's fucked hot.

She knows they don't want her for more than a wet hole he has to get very drunk for, so she's pretending all she wants from these "he's a catch!" types of men is ONS NSA never see ya again sex.

I don't blame her. She has to rationalize joy someway. Only have one life to live and she's already wasted hers being fat to the point that if she loses weight she'll have pounds of loose skin.

Andress1 · 2016-07-03T10:17:58+00:00

What are your options when playing a rigged game/competition?

1.Maximizing everything in your reach to achieve the best results you can get.These results may be too low for some.I feel this way.

2.Not play.Dedicate your efforts to something more productive.

3.Change the environment/context.Switch it completely by going to another place.

In the dating and sex scene i chose number 2.I don't play.

Methylenie · 2016-07-03T13:20:47+00:00

I think so, especially online. No matter how ugly, I think there are plenty of guys willing to have casual sex with you. The hard part is finding those guys and making sure they're safe. Anxiety = no sex. The catch? The majority of women don't want casual sex. For the average woman, getting the ol' 'pump and dump is a terrible experience but that average man would probably be happy with that, unless he happened to fall in love with a stranger.
Only if he pays. The women that do want casual sex alone are way fewer than the guys who want that. Like waaay fewer. So women have more choice.
Can't tell from the information given.

My thoughts The average woman and the average man want different things in terms of casual sex, even then, everyone's different. It can be difficult to empathise with each other.

whyyoureadmyusername · 2016-07-02T22:48:19+00:00

I really mean this in the nicest possible way, but get off the internet man. I'm not trying to be snarky. I'm trying to be honest. The internet is not real life. If I went by what I heard women say on reddit and other websites then I would think I'd be doomed to eternal incelness too.

I am not good looking, and all the women I've had sex with have been good looking (Granted that's only 4 women, but I'm only 19). I'm not particularly rich or tall either. I've never had a casual hook up, BUT I'm no looker and I have managed to get a decent looking woman to put my dick in her mouth within three hours of meeting her.

If I can do it you can too. Seriously. Go outside. Meet some people. Talk to women, talk to men. Just go out and have a good time. Do whatever you want to do. Sex is as common and normal as conversation and I see people talking everyday. Most people have sex. Is it easier for women? Yes, it is, but that doesn't mean it's impossible for you.

Negativity is a huge turn off. Stay positive and try until you get what you want.

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despisedlove2 · 2016-07-03T00:27:51+00:00

So?

Do you want a pity party? Women maximize their options. Our culture has given them options you don't have. Deal with it.

StickItInTheToilet · 2016-07-03T01:37:32+00:00

MY THOUGHTS How can any average man survive this SMP? How can we compete when the most ugliest, low value women have millions of options at their finger tips?

Let me distil this.

You, and many men here, describe this woman as ugly and low-value. Repulsive, in other words. But in the historical SMP, this is the woman that current incels would have married. (Not the most unattractive of the incels though. Because in reality she isn't ugly - her face is not what most would call ugly.)

Let me ask you, would you have been happy? Would you have 'survived' it? Would you have been happy married to a woman you find repulsive, especially if she is equally repulsed by you (but had no other options). How was the SMP any better before for men and why all the moaning about today's SMP?

I think she's very fortunate not to have come across bad experiences, having sex with so many men. If there were a lot less risks, more women would have sex with more men.

Men made the world risky for women. Now men have to live with the world they made.

life036 · 2016-07-03T11:43:00+00:00

How can any average man survive this SMP? How can we compete...

Take a step back and ask yourself why the fuck you are looking at this as a competition, or as some kind of threat to your very manhood. Seems like a sick, twisted way of looking at things. Why does this chick threaten you and your psyche at all? I honestly don't see how this should have any affect on you.

questioningwoman · 2016-07-03T18:31:54+00:00

She CAN get commitment. However the catch is she has to find someone with an obesity fetish or a feeder. Go to fetish websites and find someone there.

1HandClap · 2016-07-02T23:50:43+00:00

Is this the standard female experience, ANY FEMALE can get sex so EASILY, despite being objectively LOW VALUE and SMV 1 or 2?

Is there such thing as a "standard female experience"? Yes, perhaps generally straight women find it easier to find sex than straight men do. But it could also be likely that every individual has different preferences - some just want to bone hotties, and all power to them. Others though, might value intellegence, or a sense of connection, or whatever - as much as, or more than, sex. At least a couple of my female friends say they'd rather wait for good sex with someone they like rather than have an endless chain of possibly good, possibly bad sex with strangers. Just because the buffet's open doesn't mean you want to eat the lot.

QUESTION FOR BLUEPILLERS: Do you think the male experience is at all similar? Could an obese man who is SMV 1 or 2 have thousands of options of HOT women at his finger tips in whichever city he feels like cavorting through?

I have seen obese men create more than enough options for themselves. They were generally pretty relaxed, genuine people who didn't have too many hang ups about the opposite sex. Plus society doesn't place as much importance on a guy's looks.

Do you think this woman is happy? She is old, ugly, and alone, but she can get sex, attention, free things I am sure; so do you think she feels successful?

Hard to say if she is truly happy. Happiness is a mysterious, ellusive thing. But she is living her life on her own terms and is clearly to commited to working it all out. That's got to be a start...

MissMaude · 2016-07-03T01:20:41+00:00

As a not hot woman: no. This wasn't my experience. Granted, I was single before all the online/tinder stuff started.

I truly question the conventional hotness of the men she's hooking up with. I think a man with similarly low standards could have a few hook ups but not as many just given male vs female interest in casual sex.

I don't know if she's happy. She doesn't appear to be hurting anyone so I hope she is. That said, I would be unhappy in her position. I am glad I married a good man while I was a young. I am glad I get to have on demand sex with a man who knows what he's doing, holds my hand on the walk to brunch and is someone my family loves. I wouldn't trade that for hooking up with a "Chad" every night.

dopesk1 · 2016-07-04T08:33:49+00:00

How can any average man survive this SMP? How can we compete when the most ugliest, low value women have millions of options at their finger tips? We may as well kill ourselves, or go transgender if we are in the lucky .0001% of men who could pass as female.

Lol if fellow men really wanna take one for the team , then go transgender. Transgendered 'women' piss real women the fuck off. Such trans people are creating a surplus... An excess... of women and not the other way around. Don't worry about passing, fake tits are obviously fake and they're in high demand.

DaphneDK · 2016-07-03T07:50:29+00:00

Is this the standard female experience, ANY FEMALE can get sex so EASILY, despite being objectively LOW VALUE and SMV 1 or 2?

No. I don't think this is the standard female experience for ugly aging women. On the contrary, even attractive aging women often complain about being invisible. If this was the standard female experience it wouldn't be newsworthy.

Do you think this woman is happy? She is old, ugly, and alone, but she can get sex, attention, free things I am sure; so do you think she feels successful?

She's probably fairly happy with her life. Many women are deeply unhappy so it's not like the bar is set very high to begin with - if she was to compare herself to her peers. In any case, happiness is often more a question of your own mentality, and of expectations. Low expectations => happy life.

exit_sandman · 2016-07-03T07:56:35+00:00

I'll answer your questions in reverse.

Do you think this woman is happy? She is old, ugly, and alone, but she can get sex, attention, free things I am sure; so do you think she feels successful?

No. Or rather: even if she is, this isn't the norm.

In fact, I happen to know a few women who had the habit to fuck above their league and they weren't happy because at the end of the day, those guys weren't interested in them. And by that I mean none of the guys were. Because let's be serious: the whole "I am not necessarily looking for a relationship"-denial these women oftentimes display only carries you so far - at one point you'll fall for a guy, and then at another point, and another etc. And when all you get is rejection, I doubt this leads to happiness.

Is this the standard female experience, ANY FEMALE can get sex so EASILY, despite being objectively LOW VALUE and SMV 1 or 2?

Which is also why this isn't the standard female experience because not every woman needs to learn the hard way that this doesn't lead to happiness.

czerdec · 2016-07-03T11:04:13+00:00

Is this the standard female experience, ANY FEMALE can get sex so EASILY, despite being objectively LOW VALUE and SMV 1 or 2?

Logic fail here. If someone is willing to pay $5 for an item, its market value is five bucks.

SMV is a concept that doesn't apply to heterosexual women. Or homosexual ones, if we're to go by the lesbians that win lesbian beauty contests on the daily. At least, SMV applies in a massively different way. For men, it involves being able to get laid without overtly paying money. For women, being able to get laid is guaranteed. What quality of man she can get is what SMV measures. This article is yet more proof of the matter.

If you're male, having 100 extra pounds will usually remove you from the sexual market against your will. If you're female and still happy to fuck, tinder will find you as many lovers as you can take, and you can pick and choose among a wide variety.

(You know, variety, that thing that you get a lot of when you have a population with a Y chromosome.) We just vary across a wider spectrum than women. We have a high incidence of low basic standards for lovers compared to most women, coupled with a high incidence of willingness to have sex with strangers.

I think we in the reality-based community will just have to accept the unpalatable fact that heterosexual female SMV has a floor of 3. Even for an 80-year-old woman, there is a 25-year-old male somewhere, out of every million adults, who will hit that. And several dozen obese mostly older incels who would rather someone younger but will accept any human with a pulse.

totorox · 2016-07-03T13:24:40+00:00

You don't seem to realize that having sex isn't an accomplishment for a woman. It is for a man as he has to be better than his peers in order to get this reproduction chance. For a woman, the grail is securing commitment and protection from a high value male. The fattie 40 yo in your example isn't getting that. She is actually ruining her descendance and thus losing through yielding to promiscuity.

DrunkGirl69 · 2016-07-02T23:22:44+00:00

I think you should ask the men if this is possible, because as a non-obese woman, I have no idea. OP: are you this thirsty? Would you totally hit that? What if you were a hot guy?

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PuntosSolubles · 2016-07-03T02:09:19+00:00

I'd like to believe no self-respecting attractive man would consider bedding her. But men can be so desperate, and some really hot, jacked dudes are chubby chasers, so who knows.

I doubt she is happy. She wouldn't be writing that drivel if she were. Plus she's burying her organs under layers and layers of fat, slowly squeezing the life out of them. Who could be content with such a thing?

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LittleWindowpane · 2016-07-03T03:56:49+00:00

If this woman was a male he would have difficulty establishing platonic relationships with women, let alone having sex.

slicebypass · 2016-07-03T13:50:27+00:00

I love the mental gymnastics being performed in this thread. The sad truth is the average man has a snowballs chance in hell in today's warped SMP. Time to take a look at the mail-order bride catalogue

SkinnySweaty · 2016-07-03T17:05:11+00:00

How can any average man survive this SMP? How can we compete when the most ugliest, low value women have millions of options at their finger tips? We may as well kill ourselves, or go transgender if we are in the lucky .0001% of men who could pass as female.

You need to un-shit your pants and get on with your life.

You are male, therefore things are different for you in terms of getting attention from the opposite sex. Rocks are also heavy, and water is wet.

It has always been this way. You can acknowledge reality and work with what you have to create the best life you can, or you can throw your hands in the air and run in circles while screaming and crying.

The choice is yours.

SpaceWhiskey · 2016-07-03T21:00:53+00:00

Standard? Absolutely not.

Also, I wouldn't call that woman a 1 or 2. She clearly puts effort into her make-up and hair, the tattoo looks cool. I don't personally see fat people as a deal-breaker so I'd rate her more of a 5.

leftajar · 2016-07-04T16:52:50+00:00

I don't buy it. Either the guys are way more loser-y than she makes them seem, or this is utterly fabricated.

PoopInMyBottom · 2016-07-04T19:14:33+00:00

The article is clickbait. You can't trust it, at all. It could be true, or it could be (in my opinion more likely) total bull.

Women can get sex easily, but men don't drop their standards much when they go casual. Have you ever actually seen a girl go home with a guy more than two points above her? Have you ever had sex with a girl more than two points below the kind of girl you normally fall in love with? I haven't. I doubt I could get it up in that situation.

Could be true, but I don't really believe her. Although, it could just be that she has low standards for what "hot" is because she's 40 and fat.

winterrider · 2016-07-15T06:34:32+00:00

It is an accurate article. Women can get sex about 5000X easier then men can. Even women who are 1s and 2s can get sex from men that are 7s, 8s and 9s.

durrrlicious · 2016-07-02T23:06:50+00:00

What does she consider "hot", however? Or what if she's embellishing?

squidracer · 2016-07-03T01:43:02+00:00

I won't fuck a fattie.. They are to be used for bjs only

Title	Q4All: Is this woman's experience standard? Article: "I'm Fat and I Have Sex with Hot Strangers"
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Date	July 2, 2016 10:37 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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