Is anger constructive and useful for self-improvement?

rockinhard130 · 2016-03-15T21:24:54+00:00

Anger is great for things like personal change, weight loss. Anger at a whole group of people for the actions of a few, while seemingly justified, isn't healthy in the long run.

celloist · 2016-03-15T21:57:33+00:00

Peace is a lie.
There is only passion.
Through passion I gain strength.
Through strength I gain power.
Through power I gain victory.
Through victory my chains are broken.

Apexk9 · 2016-03-15T20:23:32+00:00

Anger can be used constructively but it can also be destructive.

For example if you get cheated on and want to get in shape and use the anger as fuel to life hard and eat right and when you slip you just channel that anger that's Constructive.

Same dude and scenario but he sits at home on trp just talking shit toward women because of his deep hurt that's destructive

Emotions can be both its your choice how to use them

SkinnySweaty · 2016-03-15T20:50:13+00:00

Anger directed externally at a person or group leads to resentment and prejudice, not helpful. Anger turned inwards can lead to self-loathing and depression. Also, not helpful.

Manage your emotions, it's the adult way to go through life.

Burning out anger at the gym or on a hard run had been very positive for me.

GoldPilot · 2016-03-15T21:47:16+00:00

If you channel your anger into something good, then it can be a good thing. Righteous fury has compelled people to do good stuff.

It can just as often (probably more often than not) get people to do bad, stupid, self defeating things. Really, it depends on the person.

GaiusScaevolus · 2016-03-16T03:18:27+00:00

Anger can be channeled constructively, but regardless of whether it's constructive or not it doesn't change the presence of the feeling. Denying anger or saying things like 'You shouldn't be angry' or 'You have no right to feel angry about this.' is about as useful in alleviating anger as telling a woman to 'calm down' is to her serenity.

The TRP 'Anger Phase' I think has use as a sort of hard reset on how a man interacts with women. It hits the pedestal with a sledgehammer and causes it to come crashing down as he over-corrects his views/interactions with the women in his life. Eventually he'll calibrate like most humans do, but the smashing of the pedestal is necessary to start that process.

gainzndamez · 2016-03-15T20:58:33+00:00

Anger is an amplifier. You can amplify something that's constructive or something that's destructive.

alreadyredschool · 2016-03-15T22:17:20+00:00

You were angry at women and successful men, this is what most people do, they shame players. You were supposed to realise that you had misplaced expectations and instead of laughing at players from your moral high horse you should have emulated their traits. Misguided anger won't help, that's why you should channel your anger to get motivation.

louplop · 2016-03-15T20:16:28+00:00

As someone who is not really sensitive. Only love or hate could push me to my limit. I can't explain how those kind of feelings are usefull for me to do stuff.

Yes reading TRP made me a little bite angry at women but only few moments, it made me hate me more than anything else. Those feelings never stop my social skills, maybe the love one.

ThirdEyeSqueegeed · 2016-03-15T20:42:42+00:00

I agree that it's not constructive in terms of self improvement, but I think it serves as a catharsis, so I don't have a problem with them having a few rants. It's better than letting it fester. It's part of the natural process of taking the red pill though - the anger stage. Denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance. It's important to allow people to go through the various stages and get to acceptance.

COPCO2 · 2016-03-15T20:43:13+00:00

Given that, I don't feel anger is constructive for self improvement.

Agreed. That's what we call 'doing something for the wrong reasons.' You need to find what drives you, and I do that by finding what I want. When I head in the direction of my desires, I get happier, and it's been far better revenge against the people in my past who have wronged me. In fact, it's been so good that I've forgiven most of them and still working toward my goals.

If anger was my motivation, then I could never forgive and move on, since it's the only thing keeping me going. It would suck.

lbspredh · 2016-03-16T07:30:24+00:00

I never get a better workout in than when someone has pissed me the fuck off, but I'd guess it depends on the target of the anger and how it's used

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[deleted] · 2016-03-15T20:20:13+00:00

Everyone's ego is different, so different people will use different defense mechanisms and those defense mechanisms can either be constructive or destructive.

Some people feel that having anger, as long as it's not harmful to others or personal relationships, can be used constructively for self-improvement. Whether or not something is overall destructive to your own self comes down to how much control you offer that anger. I personally believe in healthy amounts of anger and other negative emotions. If you want to improve yourself in a way that's more constructive for you than anger, embrace that.

You can't banish your ego, but you can cultivate healthy ways to feed it.

BiggerDthanYou · 2016-03-15T22:10:53+00:00

Anger is useful if you can channel it somehow. If you let it take control of you it will hinder you, but if you ignore it all the time you will explode one day.

You've got to accept that anger is one of your emotions, but like any other can be controlled and you can get used to it. Try beating Dark Souls at soul level 1 and you will know what I mean. Anger is the best fuel for some tasks.

Your boss has been a douche? Go boxing and give your best.

You failed a test and hate yourself? Go skateboarding and jump that stairset that you never date to take

You are angry because you got rejected? Get down and do 50 push-ups and then run some miles

If you learn how to control your anger you can use it as a huge source of motivation.

GregariousWolf · 2016-03-15T22:19:45+00:00

As others have said, anger is just an emotion. It's what you do with it that is constructive or destructive. Yes, there are people that lash out in wrath. There are also people who use anger as fuel for positive change.

FirionDarklight · 2016-03-15T23:27:30+00:00

Yes.

sittinginabaralone · 2016-03-15T23:40:55+00:00

Anger is useless and waste of time and energy

Madness20 · 2016-03-15T23:51:56+00:00

In personal experience, yes. When i went through the anger phase, i used to spend it exercising like mad, and made nothing short of a miracle in changes in my body.

lauren_collins · 2016-03-16T00:30:51+00:00

i don't understand why bluepillers are so against the anger phase thing. would you rather they be happy? they're redpillers lol, why would you want that?

Darth_Sin · 2016-03-16T01:06:03+00:00

Only for a Sith Lord

daveofmars · 2016-03-16T01:06:32+00:00

Anger isn't the problem.

FEAR is the problem.

Anger will get you out of bed and make you tackle something that previously held you back. On the other hand, fear will keep you at the doorway.

Anger isn't the problem, and I don't believe it ever was. People focus on anger and think it's this big, bad thing because those same people have focused on the wrong beast, instead letting fear unconsciously dictate their lives, and fear is the far worse poison.

methylotroph · 2016-03-16T02:57:17+00:00

No I think "anger leads to hate, and hate leads to suffering" :P

I think anger and the hate it produces is behind both sides of the extreme ends of feminist and MRM.

duckyhunter · 2016-03-16T03:22:54+00:00

Of course it is. You can't invalidate the motivations of other people.

I literally became a nuclear engineer to spite Greenpeace and other environmentalists. Hatred and especially spite have been my greatest sources of growth in life.

RareBlur · 2016-03-16T05:03:13+00:00

Yes it is constructive when you ask yourself why you are angry. It's destructive when it's expressed in an uncontrolled way.

I try not to get angry anymore bit practice recognising when I do feel angry. When I asked myself why I was angry at someone, it usually boiled down to being angry at myself. Not until I understood that could I work on solving things.

energyvolley · 2016-03-16T05:06:13+00:00

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KidWhoDontReadGood · 2016-03-16T11:50:04+00:00

Anger is healthy, as a challenge to overcome. The more you get past anger, the less things will shock or upset you in life and you will become a more peaceful being.

TheDividualist · 2016-03-16T13:23:18+00:00

There was an article on t-nation, but I cannot find it anymore. Long story short: being angry at yourself helps. Not hating yourself but angry at yourself. Different story. Hating yourself is "I suck", angry at yourself is "come on, lazy fuck, you can do much more than this".

despisedlove2 · 2016-03-16T18:33:00+00:00

Anger is constructive if it is directed at oneself.

Self disgust for having been taken for a ride by the usual run of the mill woman is useful if correctly channeled.

NalkaNalka · 2016-03-15T20:08:28+00:00

Anger is a great motivator, particularly when aimed at yourself.

VermiciousKnidzz · 2016-03-16T13:32:16+00:00

the only way anger could be helpful is it it's followed by the thought "being angry sucks, something needs to change immediately"

i've been asked multiple times if i've ever been angry. i never think about it but i guess i never get mad at people IRL. i see other people get so pissed at the most little thing and it just seems silly. anger seems like such a generally useless and dramatic emotion. i'd much rather solve my problems through non-aggressive communication.

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[deleted] · 2016-03-15T23:28:09+00:00

It depends on how you channel your anger.

You may feel angry at something or someone, but you decide to improve yourself, without generalizing or denigrating other.

But you can also feel angry at someone or something, generalize everybody and turn a specific group of people into your number 1 enemy.

You're the only one who can actually make your anger constructive or destructive.

Title	Is anger constructive and useful for self-improvement?
Author	gavinok
Upvotes	9
Comments	47
Date	March 15, 2016 8:04 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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