What do TRPillers actually like in women ?

DietCokeImOnMyKnees · 2015-06-05T03:11:42+00:00

I don't believe any of the stuff in the OP, at least not that women are particularly more inclined towards those bad characteristics than men.
I'm still highly averse to marriage and LTRs. But I wouldn't trust a man to be in a position where he could take half of everything I own, plus ongoing payments.
In terms of the characteristics I look for, I also differ greatly from TRP. I don't want a women who is demure, and chaste. For a relationship I would want a woman who is highly intelligent, willing to question social norms, adventurous and capable of being independent. Realistically, a woman like that is likely to have slept around, just as I have. I'm fine with that.

Whisper · 2015-06-05T07:50:06+00:00

You're whacky. I don't know what scenario you're going on about. But I will answer the question you should have asked.

There is a scale, from tough|mature|cynical to tender|innocent|naive. Self-sacrifice flows down this scale. Men naturally self-sacrifice for the benefit of women, women naturally self-sacrifice for the benefit of children. Obedience and respect naturally flows up the scale. Women respect and obey men, children respect and obey women.

When women got together and decided to turn off the flow of obedience and respect, they called it feminism.

After a couple of decade of self-sacrifice without obedience or respect, men decided that the only rational response was to cut off the flow of self-sacrifice.

Feminists called this "misogyny". Men called it the "red pill".

Solomonceed · 2015-06-05T03:58:11+00:00

Some of them smell really nice.

ProtoPill · 2015-06-05T03:16:21+00:00

My views on this topic are more mild than the views of those expressed below.

As you know, I'm a married man. I believe in the traditional divisions between man and woman, which means I also believe that feminine traits are complementary to masculine traits. I like feminine traits. I believe most of the men commenting do as well. I also understand that many of them may have had bad experiences with women growing up, which are largely justified given the state of the marketplace.

To answer your question: the feminine traits I like in my wife, which cannot be recreated among men, are loyalty to me and my family, tenderness, empathy (which makes her an outstanding philanthropist), and respectful (of tradition and my authority).

lurfly · 2015-06-05T07:01:30+00:00

OP you seem to not really like women yourself given the somehow loaded questions. Don't worry were not all like that. What you and many do not understand that men and women are different. You provide a list of male traits and give us a false choice to answer to. You should provide a list of positive traits you think women have so we can argue - but ofc you did not even think that women can be kind, funny and supportive etc. This i why i think you actually hate women. And men for that matter.

I like women because they are different and that is why i am not fucking all my male friends. You can't say that women or men are bad only because they have differences. What your post is lacking is context. Selfishness could be a positive trait if applied in protecting your family for example. Same for other traits - they lack context.

If you want a straight discussion on morality then maybe you shouldn't disguise your ad hominems in questions and play you cards as though you're not aware of differences between sexes and you're just blissfully ignorant.

MGTOW is not an answer rationally because humans need to procreate. The rational choice is to learn the game and play by it's rules and change when necessary so that you increase your chances. MGTOW is a response to an unfair legal system which favors one sex. And depending on the context it can be a rational decision.

Edit: sry for errors as typing from phone. edit2: spelling.

[deleted] · 2015-06-05T08:26:03+00:00

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GayLubeOil · 2015-06-05T08:08:00+00:00

The thing that I like most in a woman is my dick. I like it when my dick is inside women. It's like a warm moist happy place filled with smiles. So as a Red Pill superstar I would have to say is that the best thing about women are their vaginas.

I know this is a difficult concept for you blue pills to understand. So here is a helpful music video on the subject.

dandeezy · 2015-06-05T05:35:37+00:00

Confidence, feminine qualities, coy behavior, attractive looks ( takes care of herself), sexy quiet voice.

TheGreasyPole · 2015-06-05T08:01:32+00:00

Women don't have to have good character traits for men to like them.

Being attractive and willing to fuck means you've basically 2 out of 2 on any males "do I like this chick" list. We don't assess women the way women assess men.

We are resigned to the fact that these positive character traits are rare in some cases and do not exist in others. We want to fuck them anyway.

Sometimes we meet women who are incredibly unusual as they appear to have several traits from this list. Those are the ones RP men are willing to marry, but they are sooooo rare that TRP usually just abreviates this to "don't get married".

As the great /u/ciswhitemaelstrom has said before. If women didn't have sex to offer males we'd kill them and eat them.

Archwinger · 2015-06-05T09:50:05+00:00

Like? Trust?

Red pill men aren’t looking to make friends here. They're looking for a sexual partner. They can hang with guys if they're looking for friendships.

What's with this "gotcha" question that's not an honest question? Let's say that all red pillers irrationally hate women, like nothing about them, but fuck them anyway. And they have an entire internet community about how to get women to fuck you. Would it be a revelation to you? I mean, this is kind of common knowledge.

wonderingwhether54 · 2015-06-05T02:49:39+00:00

There aren't any traits that women can exhibit which are actually good. However, I'm biologically programmed to like them. Is it good that a woman doesn't have the physical strength to open a jar? No, but I think it's cute. Is it good that a woman's constantly trying to destroy me? No but I find it amusing. Is it good that women dress impractically? No but I'm sexually attracted to it. Men's strengths are being genuinely desirable. Women's strengths are in getting the desire for free due to our genetics. RP doesn't hate women. We just acknowledge that they don't have good traits.

Zackcid · 2015-06-05T02:52:49+00:00

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alreadyredschool · 2015-06-05T09:40:48+00:00

That strawman, it's like you still have the exact same misinformed opinion about TRP that you had 3000 threads ago.

Aerobus · 2015-06-05T02:42:35+00:00

If you believe that women are naturally self-absorbed ,machiavellian , incapable of honor and loyalty, incapable of empathy , irrational etc.

They are.

while men are naturally loyal , honorable and selfless ,

They are.

then what do you even like in woman ?

Instinctual physical and sexual attraction.

Do women have any actual good character traits ?

Most have none. The ones who think of themselves as special snowflakes definitely have none.

If you believe that women are like that and that they're ready to fuck you up when they get the chance (because AWALT right? )

You are correct. AWALT; they will destroy you when an opportunity arises.

then MGTOW is the only rational choice.

Correct, but testosterone has amazing effects on the human male brain which is why when the primal desire is mixed with TRP thought men learn "aha! we should manipulate women into sleeping with us so that we relieve our sexual desires and never LTR the majority of them because the majority of them are worthless."

How can one ever trust women if it is in their nature to fuck people up for their own selfish interests while men are supposedly loyal and honorable ?

Good question. I don't trust women. Growing up, after seeing my mom and sister behave the way they did, I learned, well before I found TRP, that it was in my best interest to not trust any horseshit that comes out of a woman's mouth. I'd be interested in hearing some other RPers, because right now I don't think i) I can trust any woman ii) I should have a reason to trust one. AWALT. All women are like that.

Vornnash · 2015-06-06T00:16:54+00:00

Shouldn't you be worrying about the pending collapse of your country's banking system?

[deleted] · 2015-06-08T00:31:05+00:00

I am a fan of juicy lips and a large, firm backside.

Aspiring_Hobo · 2015-06-05T04:55:29+00:00

Women aren't unlikable for their entire existence. That's where the training comes in. If you don't know how to raise your woman then she won't be worth being around. That is, unless you hit the lottery and find a girl you're immediately compatible with.

As for trust / love, you always save some for yourself in case the person you're with turns out to not be shit. You never give 100% away to anyone.

[deleted] · 2015-06-05T04:47:09+00:00

The vast majority of women are shitty as hell. Just like men. Except I'm programmed by my biology and modern society to think otherwise. Even women that I should genuinely find completely undesirable from a character perspective.

I don't at all agree with the general RP stance that men are innately better than women outside of sexual relations. Men are generally more noble than woman in courtship but outside of that they're no better. Same potential for platonic love. Another thing that I disagree with TRP.

Platonic love + sexual attraction

disposable_pants · 2015-06-05T12:56:57+00:00

If you believe that women are naturally self-absorbed ,machiavellian , incapable of honor and loyalty, incapable of empathy , irrational

All people will act like this if they can get away with it. The average man can't while the average woman can. Women aren't bad, they just can be bad and not get in nearly as much trouble for it.

TRP is how to become a man who A) women don't want to be bad around and who B) can get another woman if his current one decides to be bad.

kick6 · 2015-06-05T14:26:03+00:00

physical beauty
femininity
domesticity

But if all you have is the first, we'll fuck&chuck you till you unleash your crazy.

How can one ever trust women if it is in their nature to fuck people up for their own selfish interests while men are supposedly loyal and honorable ?

You can't. You can't trust banks either, but we still have relationships with them...

GaiusScaevolus · 2015-06-05T15:18:40+00:00

Boobs are nice.

In all seriousness, women are capable of being downright enjoyable company, with the right man and in the right circumstances. But if you're not the right man and it isn't the right circumstances, well then boobs are still nice.

zikkitzo · 2015-06-05T18:14:13+00:00

If you believe that women are naturally self-absorbed ,machiavellian , incapable of honor and loyalty, incapable of empathy , irrational etc

AWALT is a guideline. It's a tactic of assuming the worst, and not letting your guard down (ever). All people are capable of these traits. Western women seem to be particularly prone to them.

men are naturally loyal , honorable and selfless

I'm not sure TRP thinks this about men. I see TRP as embracing the dark side of male nature in the same way feminism embraces the dark side of female nature. Obviously I don't mean 'dark side' as in rape. I mean it in a no scruples way of finding and fucking the best you can. I think where the strategy diverges is since men don't need women long term, the worst nightmare of a woman is to be left behind. Whereas women need men (or at the very least, the financial stability a man provides), so they find a way to have the stability without the man (divorce rape). TRP saw this and implements a very simple solution. No marriage, no babies. The only thing feminists can do now is appeal to the state. If our culture follows post feminist Rome, the next stage is the 'Bachelor tax', which I expect to see murmurs about within the next 2 years as this latest generation of feminists leaves brainwash academy and finds men won't give them the financial stability they need to survive.

feminazis_stalk_me · 2015-06-06T02:53:29+00:00

My penis.

sumant28 · 2015-06-05T04:13:24+00:00

The greatest times in my life were having sex and being in the company of my male friends. Those are two distinct experiences btw

Darth-Sin · 2015-06-05T04:16:27+00:00

If there was a possibility for me, as a man to not have my sex drive influence or affect me, without resorting to shady treatments, I would gladly do it.

If there was a possibility that I could remove my sex drive entirely without having to resort to shady and harmful treatments, I would do it.

To the self sufficient thinking man, women are at best, an optional extra and at worst, something a man should endeavor to stay away from unless interaction is absolutely necessary.

To a self actualized man, women are like those optional trims for vehicles that you see car manufacturers provide. They are optional extras that you don't really need.

zombig · 2015-06-05T14:19:38+00:00

First of all, I don't believe all men are naturally loyal, selfless and honorable. Black and white thinking causes lots of cognitive dissonance and it's everywhere. You actually did the same thing in your question (male=white, women=black), that's not really effective. TRP for me is a great source of knowledge, I can use it as a tool in my own way. I love that place, it gives men hope.

Do women have any actual good character traits ? If you believe that women are like that

I actually believe all people are like that. I can't trust myself 100%, that would be foolish, I am just a human and I make mistakes. So yeah, I believe AWALT- no woman is perfect. Same goes with males. But there is a huge difference between the girls I associate myself with and Emma Sulkowicz.

Once you swallow the red pill you will understand that women are not there to please you. Her mission should be to raise YOUR offspring. Don't believe in that fairytale that you're going to build a stable relationship based on love. You need a stable relationship to create 'love'. So first of all, a male needs to be properly adjusted to be a good leader, then look for a 'proper' female.

For me the best indicator of a great character in a woman is virginity, these girls are >emotionally stable, feminine, loyal and SUBMISSIVE<. These are the character traits I value, it makes them a great material to work with. I live in Poland though, girls who save themselves still exist here.

it is in their nature to fuck people up for their own selfish interests If both you and your woman share a common goal (healthy offsprings, stable marriage) and you both have certain qualities, you will be less likely to get fucked over. If you have no goals and expect the ltr to last forever- you are morons, no matter how blue or red.

So, a good girl for me: - is goal oriented (marriage, children) - emotionally stable (sexual restaint) - submissiveness - either church going or extremely high IQ

By the way, such girls are rarely fat, there must be a connection between a tendency to restrain sexuality and poper self-regulatory abilities. They are also much more interesting and fun than your average party-goer.

Zackcid · 2015-06-05T06:37:43+00:00

If gambling were as evil and destructive as government agencies make it out to be, then it wouldn't be as popular and desired by so many people.

windowstapedshut · 2015-06-05T08:58:48+00:00

I've always judge the quality of my relationships with women (even casual-sexual) as how well my personality* dovetails with theirs.

*bullshit.

thereddespair · 2015-06-05T20:49:09+00:00

im a woman, only that i am bi so i do like women in a certain way too.

what: women actually treat you nice, if they know they have no control over you. and when you can drop them at any sec, who cares about that list of flaws.

good traits: nothing special. only that me being one as well, it adds extra predictability when dealing with them

trust: if you know a persons needs, if you know how reliant a person is of such need from you, then you have some idea on how dependable theyd be in exchange for it.

McBlunty · 2015-06-05T05:37:20+00:00

I think HD is usually appreciated.

Title	What do TRPillers actually like in women ?
Author	HappilySingleWoman
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Date	June 5, 2015 2:23 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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