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Deny sex for a year? what dread level? *Starfish

by SelfFramed | January 26, 2020 | askMRP


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Title Deny sex for a year? what dread level? *Starfish
Author SelfFramed
Upvotes 22
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Date 26 January 2020 11:07 AM UTC (5 months ago)
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[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (1 child) | Copy

Fresh meat, fellas.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret84 points85 points  (46 children) | Copy

TLDR; LARPing Alpha faggot gets laid alot, then gets married. Used to be "alpha" man gets fat, isn't attractive, drinks too much, becomes married plowhorse to a lazy wife, his ego says he deserves sex, sex dries up, he gets more faggoty angry, wife tests, faggot fails, wife gets more demanding, sex dries up more, faggot begins to lift to become alpha again, doesn't sidebar, posts in deadbedrooms, is still a faggot. Finds MRP. Has a chance to not be a faggot anymore.

OP - you are a good example of 90% of men that come into this place. Your story is not special at all and you're not special snowflake. You're a little ahead of the game in that you lift - but that's it. Your head and mental models are entirely fucked.

Now, onto the practical advice:

we have sex maybe once a month, and when we do.. its a "quickie"

Your wife is not attracted to you.

necessary wife duties

Your wife is not attracted to you and fucking you with vigor that she once did.

We have a lot of debt, but because we eat out a lot.

You lack self control and are a shitty captain who can't manage his finances.

high SMV when you are 22 years old

No one, espeically your wife, gives a fuck of what you "used to be". She only cares about what you can provide now - and you're a Beta-Bucks.

I was prom king, and homecoming king.

I know your type of faggot - Your ego is huge. Your younger years alpha-ness sits as a constant reminder to you that you deserve great, enthusiastic sex. You're not getting it so you are deeply rooted in anger at your wife. You should be angry at yourself.

I was physically fit when we met, 5"11, 170lb.

I used to be attractive and got all the gurlzzzz.

fucked 3 girls in a day a few times, and have numbers over maybe 400.

Cool story bro. How many times are you getting fucked now? Can you see how your earlier years of slaying pussy could feed your ego and anger?

Over time I gained weight

You got fat and unattractive.

This was so good, I stopped fucking others, and settled down

Women would rather share a high value man than not have one at all. You were fucking everyone in town, she jumped on that ride because you probably had abundance mentality back then. But as most women do, they ratchet down a high(er) value man with manipulative games, auditioning (read: fucking) for the main role, and you bought it. She was just doing what she was designed to do.

I did drink more knowing I was rejected so frequently

You are a weak man that lacks self control, abundance mentality, and use substances to escape the reality that you are a weak man who isn't attractive.

Frequently I work at night to maintain the 200k salary.

Keep plowing those fields, plowhorse, because of your shitty financial decisions in life. Do you know how much a difference $150k v $200k is? Nothing. It doesn't improve your quality of life really the slightest. But you have (again) been a shitty financial captain and must plow to satisfy your wife's hypergamous desires for a beta-bucks.

She hates if I drink, anything. I am not a drunk, but she hates it, I drink coors light, maybe 4-5 beers, 4x weekly.

First - let's level set for a minute. Drop the ego. I used to drink the same amount. 4-5 beers, 4x-5x weekly. You and I both know that this was more like 6/7 nights a week, not 4. I'd drink them over 4-5 hours and never get drunk so I would justify this as "I am not a drunk". Whatever. Point being - your ego prevents you from seeing this was ever a problem and the only reason you quit was to appease her and secondly to get in shape.

Whatever. Just don't go do that again. You have problems with alcohol.

She never lost any weight after 3 kids, never worked, and complains that she is cleaning all day long.

Classic story of a lazy harpy housewife with an unattractive husband who is a shitty captain at leadership.

I'm skipping the rest of the shit you wrote about her because I don't fucking care. You have created a shitty wife. This is all your fault. She's likely depressed because you're a faggot.

I am extremely tone/fit everywhere....

Girls notice the shit out of me now

Good job on getting in the gym and lifting.

But you have zero abundance mentality and your have put your wife's pussy on a pedestal. She knows this, you know this, and being attractive means shit to her because of your shitty frame.

TRP 8+ months

And this is where I give the advice I wanted to give all along. TRP is (generally) for boys. MRP is (generally) for men.

There are outliers in TRP of men that I consider to be men of strong frame, good careers, have their shit together, and fuck like champs - married or unmarried - but in general the tone of TRP is geared more towards the age group of 16-26... like you were in your younger "alpha days". This is why you have made zero progress.

IMO 95% of the dudes in TRP are fucking idiots and faggots that learned some tricks to get laid. If you've been hanging out reading TRP shit for 8+ months, no wonder you haven't gotten anywhere. MRP is TRP on hardmode. You have to game the same fucking woman everyday (or not if you spin plates), and that shit requires the mental fortitude of a rock hard cock.

We have an MRP sidebar here. This is the missing puzzle piece you are missing. It will teach you how to mentally get to be the captain that you never knew you wanted to be. While it's rooted in TRP concepts, I've read both sidebars at MRP and TRP. MRP helps save the man. You're now in the right place. Best of luck.

Get the fuck out of /r/deadbedrooms . NOW.

Sidebar. This is the way.

[–]Chump_No_More18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

MRP is TRP on hardmode.

It's unfortunate that this has become a meme, because this goes to the core of men who find their way here.

It's ridiculously easy to get laid when you can hoodwink a woman into believing you are a high-value male. Say the magic words, be the dancing monkey, and you're 'in'.

Then comes the hard part... Actually being high value.

This is why men find their way here with angry wives. Because they are liars.

Women are incapable of resisting a passionate man whose home is in The Arena. Of course, they're going to be pissed when they eventually realize that they were bait & switched.

[–]fannyfire9 points10 points  (18 children) | Copy

Most guys at TRP could use NMMNG and I don’t recall ever seeing it as part of the reading list.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret15 points16 points  (15 children) | Copy

TRP is (rightfully) about sexual strategy only and ultimately breeds boys who find validation through sex. Like women, it's doing what it was designed to do. TRP stops there and NMMNG goes a step beyond to kill that attraction validation.

[–]fannyfire2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I can agree with that.

I think the biggest thing I got from NMMNG was to not be ashamed for having needs or an opinion about something. Last night I said something to my wife that inadvertently gave her competition anxiety. She got super pissed and I didn’t care. It felt weird but I truly didn’t care. Coupling with being 30 days sober of porn and fapping, I didn’t care that we didn’t have sex that night.

[–]Unfugwitable1 point2 points  (13 children) | Copy

How does TRP breed nice guy behavior? I don’t see that in the dogma.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret19 points20 points  (6 children) | Copy

It breeds jaded boys full of covert contracts who find validation through sex. NMMNG talks about covert contracts. Generally speaking about TRP here.

[–]Chump_No_More1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fragile egos down-voting you, bro.

[–]fannyfire0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

What example do you have for breeding guys full of covert contracts?

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

Take a look at OP for starters. Or just read a little of /r/asktrp responses.

[–]fannyfire1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I’d say the money thing for sure. TRP preaches about having a high income. Second, I’d say height. Being tall and having money doesn’t not necessarily equate to more lays. Likewise, lifting heavy doesn’t either.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dance monkey, dance. Largest covert contract ever and its preached as gospel.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando10 points11 points  (5 children) | Copy

TRP is a bunch of nice guys using RP tactics to get laid. The behaviour isn't bred by TRP, it was already ingrained in them before they got there.

And because of that I'd say at least half of them end up as MGTOW.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret9 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy

The behaviour isn't bred by TRP

Correct. It's encouraged and inbred. Covert contracts galore.

end up as MGTOW.

My observations as well. Immature faggots just full of anger. Some tools in MRP help you get past the anger stage.

I fucking love women.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando14 points15 points  (3 children) | Copy

If you spend your life chasing pussy, eventually the hit begins to wear off and you end up chasing the dragon. At some stage, you begin to wonder if there is more to life than notches on a bedpost.

When that happens, if you're not armed with the right tools do deal with and LTR, you'll either end up MGTOW or finding God and living in an off grid shack as a hermit.

With the right tools, you can make women an accessory to your life. Something that compliments you in every way and even help drive you towards greater things and a greater understanding of human nature - both hers and yours. There's a lot to be said for that imo.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

eventually the hit begins to wear off and you end up chasing the dragon

Happened to me as it does to most here that "make it". Talk about a full blown existential crisis.

When that happens, if you're not armed with the right tools...

This is where I think MRP adds great value. It gives those tools needed.

Don't have it? Yep you are angry and empty and ocassionally....

or finding God

RIP Roosh V.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I watched his YouTube video the other day, waiting for a punchline that never came.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I know a few ultra wealthy (think giant yacht and private jet) individuals, and what's very interesting is that I see these guys go after bigger dopamine hit after dopamine hit. They become obsessed with the dopamine.

[–]agsuy-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy

What the fuck is NMMNG?

Thanks in advance

[–]fannyfire5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

No More Mr Nice Guy.

Read the sidebar.

[–]Unfugwitable7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy

Once you get past the hazing, this is the response with your real advice.

[–]coachdad83 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

I've always hated the hazing but the hazing is necessary. If HOA said here's the solution to your problem without busting his ego, nothing would penetrate his hard head. And he'd be back with the same problem in 6 months like so many of the other guys in this sub who can't make any progess.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

If HOA said here's the solution to your problem without busting his ego, nothing would penetrate his hard head.

Hits to the ego last forever. Like him or not, a man that reads through your bullshit leaves an impression of truth. The advice then becomes credible.

[–]Unfugwitable0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There are assumptions being made that I have a problem with the hazing.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you consider speaking the hard truth to be hazing, you've got a long way to go yourself.

[–]financial-yogurt1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck me sideways. This was brutal and awesome.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This post is almost too cliche to be true

I wouldn’t even know where to start

[–]RPWolfAlpha_as_Wolf_2.01 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Slow Clap!!

Spot on, you hit every nail on the head with this guy.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I should have skipped OPs post and just read your interpretation, well said.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

Keep plowing those fields, plowhorse, because of your shitty financial decisions in life. Do you know how much a difference $150k v $200k is? Nothing. It doesn't improve your quality of life really the slightest.


Everything else is good.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

Would like to hear your opinion on this. For me, basic quality of life is at $75k. Considerable quality jump at $150k.

Beyond that you just get nicer versions of the same cash and prizes until around $400K.

This within the context of having shitty spending habits like OP and not long term.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

My new baseline is $125K due to Child Support at $2100 a month.

Everything above $125K for me is free money.

This past weekend we went and saw King George Strait. Between tickets, travel, shopping, etc it was a $2K weekend.

In two weeks we are going to see Jon Jones fight.

I dont make money to put it in a bank anymore. I am to busy living life and fucking shit up.

I also have zero debt other than my house payment. No car payment.

Pre-divorce I had multiple 100K's in the Bank.

Its gone. It was wasted and I view it as years wasted from my life.

Ill never have paper assets again.

I need $40-50K a year minimum to travel and do the fun things I want to do.

I am fucking 40.

Get busy living, or get busy dying.

If I have to tighten the belt I will.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

So you pay $25K/year in CS. You make $125K. Net ~ $100K.

I need $40-50K a year minimum to travel and do the fun things I want to do.

Net $100K + $40-50k (fun) = $150k / year

And you live a pretty good life with mostly everything you want to do, within reason. All you really need unless you want better "shit".

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well, I make quite a bit more than your calculations.

I need 125K a year to survive. If I lost my job today, I would require a job that pays $125K to keep the lights on so to speak.

My point of $150-200K is that is an approx $30K net increase.

That is an extra 10 vacations.

I do not need or want better shit. I want experiences.

[–]Tyred_Biggums0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Experiences give you happiness. Possessions do not.

[–]Chump_No_More0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Get busy living, or get busy dying.

No truer words spoken.

[–]42gauge0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What's your career?

[–]bliceroquququq45 points46 points  (7 children) | Copy

I’m confused, do you make $200k? I wasn’t sure if you made $200k, but then you said you made $200k, so I’m pretty sure you make $200k. Can you confirm that you make $200k?

[–]BlueMyLoad6916 points17 points  (2 children) | Copy

You’re mistaken, he said he makes $200K.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

No, no, it's nearly 200k. Not quite 200k. Because, you know, 200k.

I'll take my 6 dollar music lessons now, Alex.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol... music lessons.... fucking Alex J. Anderson. Had to bring him up didn't you?

[–]tom-anonymous3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think he said $200k. That's $1,000 x 200. Or $500 x 400. If he got paid in $20 bills he would have 10,000 bills. I don't think he can fit all that in his pocket, but at any rate I think he did say $200,000...

[–]amalgamator2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Who give a fuck - I drop my wallet and can lose 1K - the money doesn’t make her pussy wet.

I wish it it did, I really do because then I could be a lazy ass...but it doesn’t matter how much you make after a certain amount of security.

[–]ArborioRice2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

His youngest is 1.8 years old. 1.8, do you understand? 1.8 is very important to this story. His $200k supports his 1.8YO.

[–]FereallyRedHard Core Red14 points15 points  (4 children) | Copy

And they say there are only 7 stories.

This is a groundbreaking new plot twist, a true outlier in interpersonal dynamics!!!

Take a number, buddy.

[–]EasyDaysHardNights7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

As far as this sub is concerned ... there's really only one story.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'd completely forgotten I'd written that.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I said this in that thread, I'll say it again:

Who wants to take the bet that OP will read this and think /u/SBIII is full of shit and "doesn't understand" his unique situation. You know, because of "things".

Putting $200k on the line OP here does the same. Cause you know... he makes $200K. He said it. At least once.

[–]mrpmonk1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is gold. Thanks for passing these gems here

[–]weakandsensitive12 points13 points  (4 children) | Copy

Context says a lot.

All I know is you're fat. But nowhere do you actually say how fat you are right now. I'm guessing you're really fucking fat.

going to school for Dr.

If she was in med school, she's fucking dumb. If she wasn't in med school, she wasn't going to school for Dr.

Luckily, I just tweeted about women like her earlier.

I drink coors light, maybe 4-5 beers, 4x weekly.


[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Surprisingly, I know a few women who go all the way through medical school, hate it, then marry a rich husband and don't practice.

I mean, 4 years of medical school and 3 years of residency... what a waste.

[–]msr8361 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]mrpmonk0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I'm guessing you're really fucking fat.

But he says in line 41, pinpoint 2, that he's: very very veeeeery fit

[–]weakandsensitive2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

oh. well then. there we have it. he's very fit.

[–]BlueMyLoad6910 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy

OP, you are a Faggot. Don’t be a bigger faggot by deleting this post now that everyone is busting your balls. We bust everyone’s balls. I get my ass reamed out every time I post here. Do you know why? Because I’m a faggot too. We’re all faggots here, or at least we all started as faggots. Leave this post up, go back to it from time to time to see what a faggot you used to be. Don’t give up. Keep at it, read the sidebar and when you’re done start over. Keep lifting, and stop spending time thinking about your wife and what she thinks, wants, does, doesn’t do. Start fixing YOU because you’re sick of being a faggot, not because SHE’S sick of you being a faggot. Good luck, faggot.

[–]SelfFramedAlfa Prom King4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I love this place.

[–]BlueMyLoad691 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s special.

[–]msr8360 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Fun aggressive guys going out tonight!

[–]RoccoPinkman8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you whine and DEER at home like you did in this post, is it really a surprise your wife doesn’t want to fuck you?

But at least you earn 200k, that makes up partly for you being such a massive faggot, NOT.

[–]wheremyballsgo7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

100lb newb gains to squat I get but what's your secret to 100lb on bench so fast?

[–]SelfFramedAlfa Prom King-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Memory muscle, but my old max when I was younger was about 225, so over 6-8 months its gone up.

[–]wheremyballsgo6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

We have a lot of debt, but because we eat out a lot.

She cooks dinner 4x weekly, but dines out (lunch, dinner) 6-7 weekly, or $200 a week.

Ok, is it we or she eat out a lot. $800 a month for 200k is what causes a lot of debt huh.

Sounds like you blaming her eating out for your debt lmao. I make a lowly 38k a year and I could manage $800 a month for that.

[–]Tyred_Biggums1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

$800 a month isn’t nothing but it’s not why you’re in a lot of debt.

Not if you make nearly 200k. Gain control of the finances and figure out where the leaks are. Plug them.

[–]NeoTheJuanDJ1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s ego protection, and blame shifting, for the fact that he’s covering her med school loans since she’s not working because she doesn’t feeeeeeel like it (aka she’ll stay home, he’ll pay off the loans and the bills, once the loans are paid off, she’ll branch swing and take the kids and go be a doctor and debt free). OP is the next candidate for zeroing out.

[–]ChokingDownRPRed Beret3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sounds like your biggest issue is that you are making yourself too easily available to someone who adds little to no value to your life. You also seem to have a lot of unattractive behaviors, like gaming, locking yourself in the office and drinking beers (alone). You need to learn to lead your family - making 200k (did you say that somewhere?) is fantastic... But you get no prizes for providing for your family. She resents you for being a beta provider instead of the fun bartender with sexual options. Get out of the house, start dressing better. Go out with friends more (without her).

[–]SepeanRed Beret5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

You, sir, are a fucking excellent beta. You fix all the stuff, make good money, got in shape, stopped bitching, and don't want to leave even when she's being a shitty wife.

Have you considered adding some alpha?

Would she question why I stopped asking for sex?

Why do you care? Have some frame, man, it doesn't matter what she says or thinks, it matters what you are.

[–]coachdad84 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

You've had more than enough guys mention all your faults so here's some real advice:

  1. Get a mission. Nothing is less attractive than a man without any meaningful mission. You aren't making a difference in the world, you aren't on an exciting adventure, you aren't doing anything worthwhile. You know it and she knows it. No mission at 25 yrs old is ok, no mission at 35 isn't. DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFE THAT CHANGES LIVES AND HELPS PEOPLE.
  2. She's bored. I won't beat a dead horse because the guys have written about this hundreds of times, but your wife is a SAHM with no tingles hence the fatigue and whining. She probably spends a lot of time on her phone because it's giving her that sweet dopamine she isn't getting from you. A great adventurous mission would solve this.
  3. You think money and abs and abundance and SMV will make a woman lust after you? Fine. Spend the next 3 years of your life lifting, making more money, being an alpha, getting numbers, having loads of women and then see what happens. I predict not much changes. And even if you do get your wife to have sex with you 4x a week, you'll still be unhappy. Why? Because THIS ISN'T YOUR PROBLEM and sex won't solve the underlying issue - that you have no meaning in your life. A guy has sex 4-6x a week and he's still unhappy because sex will never fulfill you long-term.
  4. Read the sidebar and lift. But don't think that the end goal is to get more sex. You might or you might not, but the result will be the same - unhappiness. What you are unknowingly searching for is MEANING and PURPOSE. The sidebar, lifting, and becoming a strong, respected family leader will help you see that purpose more clearly. Good luck, hope that helps!

[–]screechhaterRed Beret3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Need clean up crew on aisle 7.

She. She. She. She. Her her her. Her

I work. She stays at home. I clean. I enable.

[–]nombre13 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy

How much money do you make? I think I missed that in your post.

[–]SelfFramedAlfa Prom King-5 points-4 points  (4 children) | Copy


[–]Tyred_Biggums2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

You may actually be autistic.

[–]SelfFramedAlfa Prom King0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

More psychopath for sure.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Not only are you a ego-full faggot, but you're also dense as fuck.

You realize he was making fun of you, right? I bet you're an engineer. Am I right?

How about you head back up to the top of this thread and respond to me where it actually has real information instead of replying to easy shit in this thread? You know why you haven't yet. You always take the easy way out.

[–]SelfFramedAlfa Prom King0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, obviously I knew he was being facetious, and you responding made me laugh my ass off.

I make 198k, but round up, I'm not 213k rich FFS.

Dunno if your MOD label is true, but if you made me a alpha prom king, I am fucking stoked. Fits perfect.

Edit, I laughed, wrote like an idiot, and posted.

I did not read your last paragraph, but did just now and will do.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando6 points7 points  (7 children) | Copy

How to calculate your SMV.

Start at 10, coz we're all 10s in theory.

Then subtract the following;

  • 2 points for being a Beta Bux

  • 2 points for being a useless, fat cunt

  • 1 point for having a fat wife

  • 1 point for having a lazy, harpy, SAHM and do nothing wife

  • 2 points for drinking Coors light

That puts your SMV at 2 points from your perceived SMV and -1.6 from your real SMV.

[–]FoxShitNasty834 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

If she has two chins then it's two points.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

You ever drank a Coors light after a 2 hour session of mowing the grass in 95+ degrees in the deep south?

Fuck coors - where's that bud light?

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Life is too short to drink terrible beer. If I'm going to waste my calories, it better be on something good.

[–]KoolAidMan79800 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes!! I got a 4! Didnt get dinged for the Coors Light!!!

[–]wkndatbernardus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

At least he isn't spending even more money than he makes on belly fat inducing double IPAs. Still, pounding Coors lights err day is pretty gay.

[–]Tyred_Biggums0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What’s the penalty for dancing monkey not wanting to leave his wife and just wanting more sex? That has to be at least 2.

[–]Toowhammy2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Your not totally fucked... well atleast your mindset. You seem to not have completely fallen off the cliff. I got banned from relationship advice because I told a guy that his wife isn’t asexual. She’s just not attracted to him. He actually believes this shit. He’s actually going to the internet to ask advice from inexperienced people on how to accommodate his wife’s asexuality. It’s almost as bad as people that think polyamory is a real thing. Atleast you found your way here.

Anyway... my spiel was about your reference to difference in libido between you and your wife. No such thing as low libido either bud. Only low attraction.

[–]mrpmonk1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

people that think polyamory is a real thing

Wait a minute

[–]Toowhammy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Never in the history of the universe has a human being been genuinely in love with more then one person at a time. Polyamory doesn’t exist. Human beings are monoamorous. We already know what RP says about people Who chose to join the poly community and it’s very true.

[–]Cloudy_Pirate2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women will treat you as shitty as you let them. If she is treating you like crap, it’s because you allow her to do so.

Why do you allow it?

If you want to figure it out, read the sidebar and do the mental work.

[–]NeoTheJuanDJ2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Oh, you: - are blue pill and beta, and completely oblivious - are an alcoholic - hide from your wife when you drink - are in denial that your drinking is a problem - make great money - are the only one working - are paying off her med school loans while she sits on her ass, post grad, with $100k’s / year income potential flushed down the toilet because she doesn’t feeeeeel like it - tolerate laziness - tolerate her spending $200 of your money to shove food down her pie hole - tolerate star fish sex - do all the dishes and fold all the towels in hopes she’ll notice and touch your dick - tolerate her obesity - are unattractive (to say the least) - are out of the house all day and she’s home alone all day? - Have wife goggles like a morherfucker** - are seemingly okay with all of this - Blame it all on her and not yourself

It’s all your fault. Drop your ego. Realize this is all your fault. Every single point, listed above, is a red flag. You are beyond unattractive and she sees it. You don’t. You are lucky she is overweight and nobody is fucking her (at least Chad isn’t, maybe a beta gamer). You’re not home all day, so you wouldn’t know anyways. The second she gets a gym membership, it’s over.

[–]SelfFramedAlfa Prom King-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Thank you, great feed back, and you are right. I need to become the captain.

I am an engineer, so I have analytical data from wifi, gps, sms, installed app monitoring and cameras throughout the home for my smart home.

Fuck, I know how long she sleeps, and when.

I know her steps per day, how long, shes on steam, or how long on twitter.

I have a heat map of driving paths, lol.

For sure I know every detail, I made these analytical charts for myself years ago... and passively recieved a "bonus" of knowing all details when I am gone.

No, one knows of these dashboards, except for me. Crazy, fuck yeah, beta? Nah, I have that part on lock.

[–]mrpthrowa2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Jesus Christ you're so scared of losing her. Holy shit.

[–]NeoTheJuanDJ1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You need to become the captain. But that is so far away from you right now, that if you became aware of how far away from there you currently are, it would put the fear of god into you.

You are an engineer. You are also a spread sheet guy. Spread sheet guy doesn’t have mental point of origin nor does he have frame. Ditch the spread sheets. Don’t even think about what your wife is doing because the worst thing she could do (like have you pay off her student loans for medical school while she sits on her ass all day, then when the loans are paid off, she gets a gym membership, branch swings, takes the kids, gets alimony from you and becomes a doctor making $$ with no debt) .. yeah, THAT could and probably will happen. And according to the path you’re going down, by that time you’ll be an alcoholic, scared shitless of your ex wife, while another man is living in your house, fucking your wife, raising your kids, and there’s nothing you can do about it except pay out the ass and be on the sidelines. And YOU don’t have the frame to handle that. YOU are on the fast track to being zero’d out and potentially being a statistic of those guys who get zero’d out, and don’t have the frame or ability to live with it. You already have no control over yourself, your mindset, your physique, your finances, your children, your wife, your vices. Get your shit together because you may not see it now, but you’re in the early stages of the path that leads to the worst a man can go through. Snap out of it. Get clean, read the sidebar, stfu, lift and get moving. It’s your life.

[–]Imaginary_Historian2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

What a great post! It made me see that despite that my own life isn't perfect, things could be worse. SO MUCH WORSE. I'll bookmark this for those times I need a pickup, to realize that actually, in comparison, my life is pretty damn fucking amazing.

Thanks for the inspiration!

[–]SelfFramedAlfa Prom King0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

For sure, don't let it get this far.

My buddy is almost in the same boat as me.

Happy to be of service.

[–]LivingRPLife5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Have you started with step 1 called SIDEBAR? You married a lazy gamer chick who doesn’t want to fuck beta Bob anymore. Step 2 is to throw that box in the trash- game box first, after you improve maybe her box.

[–]JoeBuckYourslf1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Uh, what?

[–]Toowhammy5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Grown men who play video games are worse then grown men who use Instagram and Snapchat...

[–]capn_barnacles4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

How do baseboards become broken?

[–]NeoTheJuanDJ2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

He dropped his $200k on it and chipped the paint.

[–]Hugenstein411 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Man bless you guys. Ground zero over and over again.

[–]RP_PO1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

Impressive ego. It must take you far in life. Not far into your wife’s pants, but far.

[–]SelfFramedAlfa Prom King-1 points0 points  (5 children) | Copy

Yeah, In general life I am more management / leader, esp. At work.

I focused on the career for too long, I needed to support the family, but now I need to take ownership at home.

[–]RP_PO0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Take ownership then, be light hearted at home, and eliminate covert contracts.

[–]SelfFramedAlfa Prom King-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

Personality wise, what do you mean as light hearted ?

I do understand covert contracts, and i have identified a few, I am not quite sure how to eliminate these yet, and without her knowing or fighting.

For example: If I make a pass, I am told after the kids are sleeping (obvious), but then she wants me to put the kids down.

Once I have them down, it's too late, she's tired, or now has a headache, or she wants 'personal time' to wind down.

[–]arm_candy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

For example: If I make a pass, I am told after the kids are sleeping (obvious), but then she wants me to put the kids down.

The word you’re looking for is “no”. If you want to put the kids down, then do n it, but not because you hope it will get you laid. That’s choreplay and it’s unattractive as hell.

You should know this if you’ve been “RP for 8 months”. Read the sidebar dumbass.

But yes, a year long sex hiatus is a great idea. She’ll probably be delighted not having to put out for you any more.

[–]TheThirdT0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You understand nothing. You have everything backwards.

The reason you put the kids to bed is to get something from your wife? Do you not want to build your relationship with your children? Do you not enjoy spending time with your kids?

Why are you trying to appease your way into your wife's pants? From the way you describe her, I would be actively avoiding spending time with her. You say she is fat, lazy, moody yet you are chasing her? What does this say about you?

[–]SelfFramedAlfa Prom King0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is exactly why I posted. I need this feedback to reflect on things that I haven't been capable of.

Thank you.

[–]RicoDunne1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

If you have been doing TRP for 8 months, then you should already know the answer to your question about withholding sex. Reading MRP and ask MRP and sidebar for even 1-day would tell you your answer.

Withholding sex from a person that doesn't value sex with YOU is a totally ridiculous strategy and will only make your situation worse.

Also stop living in the past. No one likes an Al Bundy wanna be. Get your current life mission on track.

A stay at home mom that can't cook or wants to go out to eat is a no-go for your budget and waist line. If she won't cook, then you cook for yourself and kids.

[–]SelfFramedAlfa Prom King0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

All around great advice.

I have been here for a out 8 months, not fully dedicated as I should be, but I will do better.

I had external life threatening issues for about 4 months, and it calmed down... so I got back on track with everything.

My overall post is from my previous research, and then digesting, and reflecting on IRL.

I have a lot to learn, my favorite part is the shit talking, I miss being around non cucked men.

[–]tightsleeves1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your spending 10 hours a day working on the wrong things.

200k is nice but your somehow in debt? How about working 8 hours a day and spend the last 2 'working' hours figuring out how to manage your financials.

You basically have a gamer wife at home who is addicted to games and pretends to clean so she can spend the next day gaming again. She has no concerns about loosing you and is enjoying her life

[–]Vegasman200021 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

How about reading the sidebar and becoming a man? You sound like me six months ago. Lift, work AND STFU for a few months then get back here. And post an OYS.

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[–]RolloAngerManagement1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Three weeks later, still no OYS post. What a fucking waste of everyone's time.

[–]SelfFramedAlfa Prom King0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I am going through Rational Male Right now.

Just finished unplugging, game, and 80% done with communication. 5 more chapters to go.

I haven't responded to reddit, but I have been reading the sidebar.

I will plan to post in oys, thank you for the callout.

[–]RolloAngerManagement0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I hope you do. I'm a big reader and thinker and it's not helped, has possibly made things worse. Doing and applying are key as your lack of progress (and mine beforehand) has shown. The accountability and reflection on what you have done and applied and will do, that posting to OYS brings, is priceless.

[–]wkndatbernardus0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

$200/week on eating out, just for her? No wonder she is A) blubbery and B) financially irresponsible. Both of these outcomes are your fault.

First thing I would do is put her on austerity measures like she was the nation of Greece. You want to stay in the EU (my family)? You won't be spending more than a specific amount that I put on a rechargeable debit card every week on Sundays (no more gyros everyday for lunch). If she stays home all day, that house should be sparkling AND a healthy meal better be on the table when you get home. That is the bare minimum for this gold digger to continue reaping the benefits of your plough horsing.

[–]WesternhagenWinner2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Any day now Germany will be in here complaining about that lazy bitch Greece who only gives him monthly starfish even though he lets her charge whatever she wants to the credit card. “Und ja, I used to be, wie sagt man auf Englisch? ‘ein Alpha’.... I fucked her into submission in 1941, and for the next four years I could do whatever I wanted with her, but now I am just Bruno Betabux to her...”

[–]Blue_Andre0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why are you cleaning and doing other chores which you don’t want to do if you make $200k?! Even if you made less, I wouldn’t think that’s a deal. You’re the bread winner. You should make the rules. She should cater to you. She’s rarely sleeping with you, let alone not sleeping with you regularly. You’re getting a poor deal.

[–]JasonStar790 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I make nearly 200k ... We have a lot of debt, but because we eat out a lot.

Debt from eating out when you make $200k? Maybe I missed it, but I think you left out the part where you're 300 lbs. Holy shit man.

[–]juliusstreicher0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

You make 200K per year, and 10,000 of it dining out annually puts you deeply in debt?

[–]Blue_Andre0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

What is all this info? Just get a second wife already. Or replace her and then get a second.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

Found the Muslim dude - interesting. Seriously I wonder how replacing your wife works with RP. I bet it does.

[–]Blue_Andre2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

I mean it just means divorce her and marry another. Alternatively, just get a second wife and see how she will react. "Withholding sex FROM HER for a WHOLE YEAR" isnt the right way to solve any of this lol.

[–]mrpmonk0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Salaam AbuAmerican!

[–]Blue_Andre0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

That is not me, but interesting comment. You may be interested in r/RedPilledMuslims

[–]mrpmonk0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

yeah, I bet he puts his time in more valuable contents. Good initiative, not to trash what you established there though, but I think r/ RPChristians is ahead by 500 years in integrating shit together!

[–]Blue_Andre0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Let me know when you have come up with something better so I can read it. Take care.

[–]Blue_Andre0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Now I get why you’re mad and jealous: you’re a beta. It’s evident from your post history.

[–]Livecrazyjoe-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

In my opinion you cant fix her. You can only fix yourself. Ask yourself what you want. You want to get laid basically.

So do it. Get a side girl friend. Get your sexual needs met. She may sense this and either start fighting with you or improve.

Dont stay stuck. Do something.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Terrible advice for OP. You said: "Go seek your nice guy validation behavior elsewhere and maybe your wife will notice and fulfill that covert contract".

You're a faggot.

[–]Blue_Andre-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

How would withholding sex FROM HER be helpful? For a whole year?! Isnt she the one withholding sex from you? And you're the man so why...?!

[–]mrpmonk0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's a state of mind. If he got fucked in the ass as a beta male, he will assert dominance by giving the ass to be fucked. Because alpha.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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