Throwaway as this might not make me very popular, even in ProRevenge.
This all happened to me a few years ago. I told a friend the story of my divorce and I was told to share. Started a few years ago. I thought we were happy. We were your usual suburban professional couple. Financially secure, healthy, good sex life, two kids (14f and 9m at the time). I thought we had a healthy social life.
We were going through one of your typical married couple rough patches. Both of us were working long hours, not spending enough time together, we were going through some developmental problems with my son and tensions in the house were running a little high. I noticed that she was spending a lot more time on her phone texting with her "girlfriends". I didn't think much of it. I started making a much more concerted effort to get out of work when I could, help around the house and be more emotionally available, but over the course of a few weeks the gulf just kept getting wider. I ended up accidentally finding some messages when I charged up an old IPad for my son to use. Her FB messenger was still logged in and there were a lot of highly questionable messages with a guy from her hometown who I will call JimBobCooter or JBC for short.
The messages weren't completely inappropriate, but I could tell there were quite a few missing based on the times and context of the messages. I made a mental note to keep an eye on this and went about trying to fix things up. The next day after I took the day off to knock out some projects that I thought would make her happy, and left her some sweet notes reminding her how much I appreciated her she was once again in the corner of the living room "texting her girlfriends". I took the boys iPad to the office opened up FB messenger and watched in real time as my wife tore me down. Her and JBC were making fun of me. All of my flaws, insecurities and secrets I entrusted to my partner were now fodder for her and JBC. Not only that, but while there wasn't outright sexting there was a sexual undertone to the whole conversation, especially when she was bashing my performance in the sack. I managed to take some screenshots, but missed a good bit of the messages, because as the conversation was unfolding she was deleting them. I wasn't emotionally capable of confronting her.
I stayed in the office until she was asleep and had a couple drinks. I took off the next day and spent some time soul searching, drinking and trying to figure out what to do. The wife came home and wanted to know what was wrong and I just coped out and told her I had a bad day. A couple minutes later I was watching the iPad as the train wreck kept unfolding. So began a couple solid weeks of taking screenshots, drinking and detaching myself from the relationship. I knew there was no going back from this. The messages were now overtly sexual with my wife completely into it, and JBC was sprinkling in "I love you's". I consulted a lawyer and got my options, and started moving forward. Here's where everything got absolutely surreal. Watching the messages I found out JBC was coming to town to spend a weekend of quality time with my wife in a pretty nice hotel. I was missing a good bit of the info, they must have had a phone conversation about it at some point, but I was able to infer enough to get the when and where. Sure as shit the next day the wife is buttering me up and wanting to take a spa weekend with the girls to relax and when she gets back we can really focus on our marriage. I go with it all the way. It's the greatest idea she's ever had, and I'll do anything to get us back on track.
I get with the lawyer and have him draft a strong separation agreement stating that she would move out, she would get weekend visitation, no child support in the interim until the divorce is final. Then I sit through the most agonizing two weeks of my life. After all this most of my feelings for her are completely gone, and I'm just seething with anger like I've never felt before. D-day arrives. I take the day off work. I Withdraw half of any money in any accounts we are joint on, leave her half alone. I had already redirected my paycheck to a new bank. I close our money market account and get a cashiers check for her half and deposit my half in my new account. I stop at office max and print out about 75 pages of FB messenger screenshots, and I kill time because I don't want to be at home. She texts me that she's taking off and that she loves me. I tell her to have fun.
I show up to the hotel at about 830 and call the wife's phone from the lobby. It goes straight to VM. They are probably already at it, whatever. I walk up to the front desk and ask if I can use the phone to be connected to JBCs room. It rings three times and he picks up. JBC: Hello? Me: JBC, can you send my wife down to the lobby please? JBC: I don't know what you're talking about bro. Me: Ok then. I guess I'll have to call Mrs. JBC and get her down here. (Totally a bluff. I knew he was married, and I knew her first name but that was it.) JBC: (Inaudible, shuffling, panic) Me: You got five minutes. Click Not even two minutes later my wife comes walking out of the elevator looking a little flustered. I sit her down in the corner of the lobby. Her: Starts spewing bullshit saying it's not what it seems etc etc. Me: I'm not here to argue. The things that are said in this pile of papers are what's going on. The only way I'm not giving a copy of this to daughter, your parents and emailing it to everyone we know is if you move out immediately. (Wife was very prideful. Daughter was going through a rebellious teen phase and her knowing probably would have forever killed their relationship. Wife was also her parents golden child and she always worried about what they thought of her. I didn't have much leverage and shame was my only card to play. Also her professional life is built up around her image, so I knew she would protect that at all costs.) Her: Sniffle, mumble, inaudible Me: This is a check for half of the money market account. I've withdrawn my half of the money from all the other joint accounts. You should have more than enough to get a place. She starts to cry a little. I could almost see the different thoughts and waves of emotions going through her, but now was the time to keep pressing. Me: Here is a separation agreement that I think is more than fair considering what's going on. I'm going to need you to look this over, sign it, and leave it at the house when you get your stuff. Do you want to look through these screenshots? Her: No. Me: Ok. Go have fun with JBC. Do not come back to the house or I'm going to send this (holds up ream of screenshots) to everyone.
I bounce out of the lobby, and I can hear her start to have a breakdown. I get to the car drive off to a parking lot and have my own crying rage fit. Previously I would have cried in front of her and yelled and whatnot but I managed to get my shit together enough to pull it off. I don't know what she did that night or over the weekend. She texted and called over and over wanting to talk. I just turned the phone off and by the time Monday afternoon rolled around there were movers getting her stuff and she delivered the agreement. I let her have a talk with the kiddos basically saying mommy and daddy need some time a part, we still love you, etc etc. Standard divorce talk. After a week she wants to have a real talk for the first time. I oblige her because I've already got my shit together and I've got an idea of what I want, but I should hear her out. She's so sorry. She wants another chance. She wants her family back.
She'll do anything. She's on her knees crying into my lap. I have no intention of ever taking her back. I tell her she needs to set up marriage counseling on her own at a time that works for me. I tell her that I can't live with her, but she should be around the children to try to maintain a relationship with them. So starts our new normal of her coming over the house, cooking and having dinner with the kids three nights a week (she always saved me a plate, I made myself scarce), her cleaning the house and doing the kids laundry then heading back to her place. We went to counseling. It consisted of her working through her issues with the therapist trying to figure out why she did it, her begging for forgiveness, and me stoically playing the victim. I was never going to give her another chance. All I wanted to do was kill time, establish myself as the primary caregiver to the kids, and establish her as not having residency in the house.
Throwaway as this might not make me very popular, even in ProRevenge.
This all happened to me a few years ago. I told a friend the story of my divorce and I was told to share. Started a few years ago. I thought we were happy. We were your usual suburban professional couple. Financially secure, healthy, good sex life, two kids (14f and 9m at the time). I thought we had a healthy social life.
We were going through one of your typical married couple rough patches. Both of us were working long hours, not spending enough time together, we were going through some developmental problems with my son and tensions in the house were running a little high. I noticed that she was spending a lot more time on her phone texting with her "girlfriends". I didn't think much of it. I started making a much more concerted effort to get out of work when I could, help around the house and be more emotionally available, but over the course of a few weeks the gulf just kept getting wider. I ended up accidentally finding some messages when I charged up an old IPad for my son to use. Her FB messenger was still logged in and there were a lot of highly questionable messages with a guy from her hometown who I will call JimBobCooter or JBC for short.
The messages weren't completely inappropriate, but I could tell there were quite a few missing based on the times and context of the messages. I made a mental note to keep an eye on this and went about trying to fix things up. The next day after I took the day off to knock out some projects that I thought would make her happy, and left her some sweet notes reminding her how much I appreciated her she was once again in the corner of the living room "texting her girlfriends". I took the boys iPad to the office opened up FB messenger and watched in real time as my wife tore me down. Her and JBC were making fun of me. All of my flaws, insecurities and secrets I entrusted to my partner were now fodder for her and JBC. Not only that, but while there wasn't outright sexting there was a sexual undertone to the whole conversation, especially when she was bashing my performance in the sack. I managed to take some screenshots, but missed a good bit of the messages, because as the conversation was unfolding she was deleting them. I wasn't emotionally capable of confronting her.
I stayed in the office until she was asleep and had a couple drinks. I took off the next day and spent some time soul searching, drinking and trying to figure out what to do. The wife came home and wanted to know what was wrong and I just coped out and told her I had a bad day. A couple minutes later I was watching the iPad as the train wreck kept unfolding. So began a couple solid weeks of taking screenshots, drinking and detaching myself from the relationship. I knew there was no going back from this. The messages were now overtly sexual with my wife completely into it, and JBC was sprinkling in "I love you's". I consulted a lawyer and got my options, and started moving forward. Here's where everything got absolutely surreal. Watching the messages I found out JBC was coming to town to spend a weekend of quality time with my wife in a pretty nice hotel. I was missing a good bit of the info, they must have had a phone conversation about it at some point, but I was able to infer enough to get the when and where. Sure as shit the next day the wife is buttering me up and wanting to take a spa weekend with the girls to relax and when she gets back we can really focus on our marriage. I go with it all the way. It's the greatest idea she's ever had, and I'll do anything to get us back on track.
I get with the lawyer and have him draft a strong separation agreement stating that she would move out, she would get weekend visitation, no child support in the interim until the divorce is final. Then I sit through the most agonizing two weeks of my life. After all this most of my feelings for her are completely gone, and I'm just seething with anger like I've never felt before. D-day arrives. I take the day off work. I Withdraw half of any money in any accounts we are joint on, leave her half alone. I had already redirected my paycheck to a new bank. I close our money market account and get a cashiers check for her half and deposit my half in my new account. I stop at office max and print out about 75 pages of FB messenger screenshots, and I kill time because I don't want to be at home. She texts me that she's taking off and that she loves me. I tell her to have fun.
I show up to the hotel at about 830 and call the wife's phone from the lobby. It goes straight to VM. They are probably already at it, whatever. I walk up to the front desk and ask if I can use the phone to be connected to JBCs room. It rings three times and he picks up. JBC: Hello? Me: JBC, can you send my wife down to the lobby please? JBC: I don't know what you're talking about bro. Me: Ok then. I guess I'll have to call Mrs. JBC and get her down here. (Totally a bluff. I knew he was married, and I knew her first name but that was it.) JBC: (Inaudible, shuffling, panic) Me: You got five minutes. Click Not even two minutes later my wife comes walking out of the elevator looking a little flustered. I sit her down in the corner of the lobby. Her: Starts spewing bullshit saying it's not what it seems etc etc. Me: I'm not here to argue. The things that are said in this pile of papers are what's going on. The only way I'm not giving a copy of this to daughter, your parents and emailing it to everyone we know is if you move out immediately. (Wife was very prideful. Daughter was going through a rebellious teen phase and her knowing probably would have forever killed their relationship. Wife was also her parents golden child and she always worried about what they thought of her. I didn't have much leverage and shame was my only card to play. Also her professional life is built up around her image, so I knew she would protect that at all costs.) Her: Sniffle, mumble, inaudible Me: This is a check for half of the money market account. I've withdrawn my half of the money from all the other joint accounts. You should have more than enough to get a place. She starts to cry a little. I could almost see the different thoughts and waves of emotions going through her, but now was the time to keep pressing. Me: Here is a separation agreement that I think is more than fair considering what's going on. I'm going to need you to look this over, sign it, and leave it at the house when you get your stuff. Do you want to look through these screenshots? Her: No. Me: Ok. Go have fun with JBC. Do not come back to the house or I'm going to send this (holds up ream of screenshots) to everyone.
I bounce out of the lobby, and I can hear her start to have a breakdown. I get to the car drive off to a parking lot and have my own crying rage fit. Previously I would have cried in front of her and yelled and whatnot but I managed to get my shit together enough to pull it off. I don't know what she did that night or over the weekend. She texted and called over and over wanting to talk. I just turned the phone off and by the time Monday afternoon rolled around there were movers getting her stuff and she delivered the agreement. I let her have a talk with the kiddos basically saying mommy and daddy need some time a part, we still love you, etc etc. Standard divorce talk. After a week she wants to have a real talk for the first time. I oblige her because I've already got my shit together and I've got an idea of what I want, but I should hear her out. She's so sorry. She wants another chance.
She wants her family back.
She'll do anything. She's on her knees crying into my lap. I have no intention of ever taking her back. I tell her she needs to set up marriage counseling on her own at a time that works for me. I tell her that I can't live with her, but she should be around the children to try to maintain a relationship with them.
So starts our new normal of her coming over the house, cooking and having dinner with the kids three nights a week (she always saved me a plate, I made myself scarce), her cleaning the house and doing the kids laundry then heading back to her place. We went to counseling. It consisted of her working through her issues with the therapist trying to figure out why she did it, her begging for forgiveness, and me stoically playing the victim. I was never going to give her another chance. All I wanted to do was kill time, establish myself as the primary caregiver to the kids, and establish her as not having residency in the house.
I have to say this is the most skillful, most wise, most intelligent divorce "Game" that I've ever seen here on the Red Pill.
Four Stars
The fact you effectively used blackmail with the "lovers texts" was pure genius and the cool actions of a man who isn't foolish.
Excellent.
We don't hear many stories where the "good guys" win in the end.
It's an x-post, it's not OP's actual post.
Some guy in bestof did a pseudo analysis of it pointing out some fairly large plot holes. Almost always if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is. There may be some truth to it, but it is likely a lie or fantasy of what he wished had happened.
If it's the one I'm thinking of, that analysis needs it's own analysis for plot holes.
One of the first points was that she either didn't get a lawyer or had a horrible one if he actually got away with blackmailing her, but honestly, she probably kept that threat about the screenshots to herself, given how much her image meant to her.
It is a wonder that she never hired a lawyer at all aside from the blackmail, it's also surprising she tried no manipulation of the kids. Also that everything went to plan. Anyone who has ever tried to plan an action out knows something almost always goes wrong. The more elaborate the plan, the more likely it is to occur. The best of post was unsurprisingly deleted so I can no longer see the analysis to support it any more.
Well, it's a story from multiple years ago, and obviously more actually went down than just the few interactions that were described in the story. Just because there's more to the story doesn't mean the parts that he told us are untrue.
She also probably didn't try to manipulate the kids because, again, she was afraid of her image being tarnished.
Any of the individual parts of the story (screenshots of messages, buying time to establish residency and primary caregiver status, reducing income to impact child support, etc) are all pretty common things that happen in divorces. Even if it's unlikely that they all went according to plan, there's enough divorces every year that there's probably plenty of stories out there like this one - even if it's a statistically small percentage.
People share unlikely things all the time on reddit, because the fact they're unlikely is what makes them interesting and worth sharing.
I fully agree with you. I just have a general mistrust of information on the internet. I agree it's possible the story is true, while I acknowledge it's also possible to be false. Being skeptical of stories isn't necessarily a bad thing, I tend to read posts with a grain of salt. Admittedly I believed this story whole heartedly until the analysis in bestof.
So you want to spoil our dream that there are still masculine men left on earth.
Gee thanks.
Even if it's a fabrication it achieves our desired result... to show the path of the hero.
We need heroes.
I haven't spoiled anything for you. I'm warning you to not be naive. Sure we need heroes, but if you think that there are perfect masculine role models out there then you are delusional. At their core they are still human. They will still have some beta tendencies and weaknesses. They may be able to hide them very well but they are there.
Do you not understand what the red pill metaphor means? That we see the truth through the fabricated lie that is society. If women can build an illusion that they are innocent little angels, then it's not so crazy some men can carry the facade of being purely masculine. Are they still great men? Of course. Do they make beta mistakes? Don't kid yourself.
The story had abundant mention of his failures leading up to his "moment of clarity".
I'm going to disagree with you on this one.
Unless evidence surfaces that makes me sense deception I'm going to say his story is valid.
Sorry.
No need to be sorry man. That's the beauty of red pill, it's a guideline, not a text book. We are entitled to believe and be whatever we want to and I'm just a skeptic.
This guy went from little bitch that his wife litterally made fun of with other men to "now I fuck tinderellas." This guy is so full of shit that it makes me sick that anyone is buying it
No, this is a guy getting angry and striking as needed.
He's a profession guy... as a guy from the Upper Middle Class myself the higher up in social class you go the more willing to get dirty and fight you will see.
My stepfather (20 years remarried after my father died) was a lawyer and he showed me how that business works.
He consulted a lawyer... the lawyer gave him the tools for victory.
He's heroic, but he had help.
Yes yes yes and now he fucks tinderellas
This should be sidebar material. I'm sure there are a lot of men that find TRP because they are being cheated on, they would find this most useful.
Even if as some accuse this is fiction it still paints the story as it should end in an optimal setting.
The odds are that whoever claims this is fiction were themselves Divorce Raped and still angry at themselves that they didn't have the ability to have done the same.
She fucking walked into that one and handed him all the munition. Fucking perfect
Good share. It's a shame the men who need to read it the most aren't here yet.
I don't see how anyone could find this disgusting, as far as I see it. You did everything correct and by the book.
You were probably fairer than you needed to be. Strength to you man.
The woman had cleared the bankaccount in 2sec Kudos for the 50/50 split
This is what a properly motivated man can accomplish. You went to war with the tools you had (fb, lawyer, shame) and came out on top. Owning your shit is always worth the effort is my main take away.
Own it, hone it, understand it and then conquer it. There isn't a mountain that hasn't been climbed.
He won't own it - he'll have to cash her out of the house in the settlement.
All of that, or something like it, is what it takes to get custody.
I think you need to look up on the side bar what owning your shit actually means.
Needs to be archived for reference. This is beautiful. Thank you
And then people ask me why I'm a nihilist. If the very fucking thing that we've been told to work toward for our entire lives is a lie... then what the fuck is there left to live for? The short answer, self-improvement, mastery of the crafts you value and experiencing the fullest that life has to offer.
If there are no true friends, family or wives. Then you can't place expectations or value in anyone but yourself. Do it for yourself. Climb the mountain, conquer the in-conquerable, swim to the deepest reaches of the ocean, for yourself.
Wishing you good tidings on your journey.
Yup.
In this day and age the only person you can trust is yourself.
Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that's always been the case.
If you master spirituality and understandment you will never have to look at this bitterly. Those kind of bitches actually are enough satisfied if you feel so and don't need to do more with you. Instead try to cultivate a positive image of the world to yourself and stick to it.
The founder of nihilism, Ser Nietzsche, never thought nihilism was an "end path" but rather the start of a true one. He considered the abandonment of old ways not to be an end to life, but the possible start of multiple ways of life. He was just pessimistic man could ever understand the thought outside the herd.
If you want to honor a good man, develop a way you can be at peace of honor with, wherever your honor may reside in.
I don't know if you hold this mis-information true, but i know most nihilists after understanding the lies, never ever try to build nothing, while they are the people with the most potential for new ways.
Apocalypse means "unveiling" and is not the end. Nihilism is also not the end but the dispel of old lies. Once the fake castle is down, you can either choose to live by the wind or build a real one (castle=interior rule) to not be just another leaf but a tree. Trees stay strong even in death for a while, leaves wind off as soon as they are ready.. and you choose your nature ultimately.
Nietzsche was absolutely not a nihilist. He was a moral relativist at best and was quite critical towards nihilism throughout his works. I implore you to read his works again and reevaluate what he said, as well as to brush up on your history of philosophy specifically regarding the foundation of nihilism.
I don't know if you meant to answer OP or me but since i'd agree (and i think my previous post does too) with you i'm just going to take this as a "good job". I know Nietzsche opposition to nihilism although it may not be obvious after just one of his books. Since i almost read them all i can say...
Nietzsche just predicted nihilism as an event that would fall down on man as he killed his old god. He never embraced it as a way of life but as on obstacle and a way to become greater. Nothing he said was ever in favour of nihilism, if not as a transitional phase.
Thinking of it, Nietzsche "nihilism phase" is really a lot like our RP "anger phase" where you deconstruct old myths to make space for new truths and ideas.
I guess Nietzsche understood the "twilight" of soul and the dawn of spirit and cherished it as a joyful event, although painful in the process. He definitely did know spirit>soul. ( spirit is the doer, soul is the receiver... the way of nature to say "man" and "child")
He was a post-nihilist actually. That's the whole point of his work, to move beyond nihilism.
Well said. I'm going to have to give Nietzsche a read one of these days.
Positivity? Life? Nah that ain't for me. Life is pain, its the pushing of a boulder up a never-ending hill. That's the only way it can be.
Not entirely a nihilist. Once my morals and beliefs were deconstructed for me, and TRP unveiled the framework of our misery. Christianity was the faith that made sense to me the most. Christ rejected opulence in search of inner strength, he preached mastery of self as the only way man can fulfill himself not through worldly possessions and addictions.
He preached the transformative power of the human spirit that could overcome any obstacle and withstand any force. And he paid the ultimate price for his beliefs.
The fundamentals are enough, the Bible has been rewritten and reinterpreted too many times to count, but the ideas remain the same. I have /u/neoreactionsafe to thank for my core beliefs.
There is a place for destructive power.
Nihilism is like a stage in the process. It is the ego centered reality which goes by the numbers 666 or "carnal" truth.
The higher understanding is 777 which sees all of it in one interconnected way that the mind functions.
People typically come out of beta... the 555 Androgyny... and they go to 666 before reaching 777.
The psychopathic globalists seem stuck on 666 and worship the death and destruction of the 555 beta slaves. In the 666 world view the further you can push others down the higher your puffed up ego becomes addicted to the ideals of the 666.
So this creates a kind of "race to the bottom" culturally as the psychopaths dumb down humanity for the sake of their ego.
666 is darkness. Once you see what a DT can and will do, you either join that train of thought or you reject it. I don't intend to follow that.
777 is the higher path. Mastery of the self. I believe in myself and God, no one else. And I thank the ECs and Mods, who guide us through all this fucked up shit. Thank you for TRP. They not only talk the talk, but you walk the walk. Nothing but respect for you guys.
We aren't anything close to a unified group.
We have our 555's just wanting to get their dick wet.
We have our 666's that want to boast of their exploits.
We have our 777's who ask how we got so screwed up.
...they are all valid Red Pill members.
Never believe that. There are true friend and family out there. There are even women that make good wives, as few of them as there are in the west since the disease of leftism holds sway.
I have friends that would come if I called on them. They wouldn't care about the task I needed them for, and I am the same way about them. I have men that are closer to my heart than any blood brother I might ever have. I even have enemies, even though quite a few of them are dead, and won't bother me again.
You're a rich man. You might be right. But I choose my own path bro.
I knew it was only a matter of time before my cheating wife would divorce me and I was one of those chumps who hung in there for "the kids." I did the key logger thing and had smoking gun evidence. She was oblivious to our finances so I liquidated some investments and bought gold coins plus moved some heirloom items into my parents basement telling them I was just storing a few things. About a year and half later we split up and basically divided up...debt. No paper trail. Plus the price of gold skyrocketed in the meantime.
That was wise, and well deserved (for her).
Admittedly, I felt sad while reading this. Abandonment issues and shattering of dreams... Man... it's like a punch in the gut that lasts for years.
I actually read the entire thing, it was a good read , not much TRP theory or advice but a few good points. Mainly dealing with his calculated move all throughout the divorce.
If he had of slipped up just once he could of lost everything and he would be paying for JBC to shove his cock up his wife ass.
He played on her child like nature as women are children so they always need hope, if he had of talk hope away than JBC raped her, and he is a asshole for not supporting his wife.
Well played OP, Well Played
He was playing chess. She was trying to figure out where to put her next X...
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I'm so happy to finally read a divorce story where the male held his ground and wasn't falling for the powerful shit tests. Bravo sir.
I disagree, the two RP theories that can be taken away from this is Social Status and Reputation. Remember in our Paleolithic tribe of less than a hundred, if a woman's reputation was mud, she will not find a man for protection, and resources. Also the better her social status, the better mate for her to attract and better DNA for her to breed with. So it is a powerful survival instinct for a woman not to be shamed and to protect her reputation at all cost. You ever wonder why the girl always rewrites the story of why you two broke up and makes sure that she was the one that did the dumping and not you? How you are the abusive bad guy and she was a victim in all this; or the most extreme way to protect your reputation: the false rape accusation.
That is what saved this guy from divorce rape, hard proof that would have destroyed her social status and reputation. What is another important takeaway is the hard proof has to be the kind that can't be hamster-ed away. Many woman caught having an affair can hamster to her girlfriends, parents, future husbands, that she was the victim driven to the arms of another man. Those screen captures from FB can't be hamster-ed.
Game changer right there , you see if he had of ask his wife why was she cheating and tried to make it work, he would be paying child support.
Alpha's don't give a fuck why wives cheat, they encourage them to have fun with the lesser man as he is no threat to him and his self esteem.
Great story. Only issue I see is that you let her back into the house on a regular basis. All it would have taken is one false accusation of domestic violence on the part of your wifey and your ass could have been booted out of the house.
He's got the kids on his side so she wouldn't have much rep to be taken serious.
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He also mentioned he still fucks her on occasion, so they're still in actual physical contact
Yikes. Better be snipped and recording.
Yeah, the moment she is out is the moment that 20 security cameras are going up in every room of the house. A real bitch could have done a Johnny Depp on him.
He knows that she's really prideful and needs a wholesome public image. I don't think she'd do it. Especially with the kids on his side.
Well done, sir. My ex begs me to take her back. They will always grovel. Yet they could have turned around, said an affair wasn't worth tearing a family apart. Lord knows we have. And yet, they still put themselves in that situation. If anything, she's upset she got caught.
Alright OP, you killed it brother. We sure are proud of you!
Just for the records, answer couple questions for me about your (soon to be) ex-wife:
Was she a virgin when you met her? In other words, were you her first sexual partner?
How often does this girl drink alcohol, if at all?
Has she been exposed to family infidelity? In other words, did her mom/dad remain faithful to each other?
This was a cross-post. OP is not author.
Everything took a risk, and in so required the utmost amount of frame.
For example having her sign through the whole process of separation to divorce by duress. If at any time this affair leaked out, you would have lost everything and she would have every ounce of leverage you wielded against her. But you remained cool, played it through, and owned outcomes before she even signed the contract.
Well done.
Shit man. I don't know you but I'm proud of you. Good job playing that one like a pro. Truly alpha.
If only he had tried that during the relationship.
Very well thought, sir. Not letting your emotions lead to an impulsive action but rather thoroughly plotting a plan and killing it. Defenitely something to learn from
My SO just sent this to me to read. Gave me goosebumps!
An important point here is that no amount of begging on her point should grant her access into the relationship. If OP were to forgive her she would no doubt be on slave-status working the perfect wife routine for some amount of time however she would revisit this scenario again and if she's smart at all she will have done some administrative prep (hide money, create community debt, etc...). There is no return from a manifestation of an online tryst.
As a married man, this is amazing. I'm trying to get educated on divorces and prepare for the possibility (I love my wife but I'm not a fucking idiot).
I think you did a good job keeping your finger on the pulse of what was going on. Obviously finding the iPad was a godsend.
I think the key is being proactive, consulting a lawyer, and going first.
Having seen divorce rape happen to a co-worker I can give you some advice. You need enough cash hid somewhere to cover lawyer fees and housing for 6 months. Do NOT have your vehicle registered in both your names. If it's only in your name you can get a friend or sheriff's deputy escort you to get it in case of restraining order.
Restraining orders are pretty much standard. Have a bag of essential clothing at a friends house. If you own firearms, have a contingency plan for them. If (when) slapped with a restraining order, you cannot be in possession of them. Have a friend or gun club store them for you, possibly they may have to be stored under your lawyers supervision.
Rent a storage unit for items that you feel are yours, but may be contested for. Give your lawyer a key so that way there can be supervised access by she who must not be named.
Cancel any direct deposit for paychecks and any auto pay for bills that are held jointly. Withdraw money from jointly held accounts and do what your lawyer recommends with the funds. Cancel any credit cards that you can.
Sounds like a fucking blast. Geez.
This is why I go by "trust but verify", while I see lots of ppl against it. He would still be with this cheating whore if it wasnt for that, and having JBC´s sperm on his tongue.
And putting in effort, trying to make things work with her. Now his efforts can be expended for his own benefit.
What stands out to me about this story is how you perceived the situation before. You were fairly positive and grateful...children, house, good enough sex life. You saw genuine contentment. And that makes your wife's betrayal all the more sickening to me.
Congratulations, you became something fierce through all this. If I had any advice it would be to never sleep with your ex even if it is easy! In fact, make a point to deny her and turn her down. End the conversations about getting back together. None of that seems healthy. Just my opinion.
I wish I would have seen this about 2 years ago. Would have saved me alot of problems.
Wow, the guy in the story is super brave for pulling all that off with so much thought - most guys would have just freaked out! Good on him
Great read. Bravo, good sir.
I always can respect a well, calculated, thought out plan.
The outcome of this scenario was inevitable. Great example of a man who pulled up his pants and took ownership of that outcome; he came out on top because of it.
This...this is beautiful. AWALT, good for you for seeing that infidelity is a deal breaker and not getting too emotionally hung up.
Dude... Women know how to use affection and validation as Red Herrings.
It is fucking frightening.
"I bounce out of the lobby, and I can hear her start to have a breakdown. I get to the car drive off to a parking lot and have my own crying rage fit. Previously I would have cried in front of her and yelled and whatnot but I managed to get my shit together enough to pull it off." All I could think of was a documentary I watched where it explained that the Greeks would wear red to war for multiple reasons, but mostly so their enemies could not see them bleed. Well played.
This "Wrath of the cuckold" sputtered out you didn't even remove the whore from your life permanently.
Coming over 3 times a week? No way I'd not permit that creature one foot inside the household sounds like she is still cucking you to this day OP.
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It can't have been easy but that was perfectly executed. Onwards & upwards.
This is why all women are fucking bitches. Fuck them.
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Me too. I did say all women are fucking bitches after all. That includes my mother.
LoL.
I'm sorry you had to go through it, but I'm glad you went through it well.
But why go to counselling and play a victim? Fuck her, let her deal with her emotional shit on her own.
Buying time and looking good for the court. Kids make things a lot harder.
I want to be like you when I grow up!
The worst thing a cheating woman hates is to give her to the other guy without a fight its abandonment so she is now in survival mode which kills her illogical nature because she cant afford to rely on feels which jbc gave her during the affair and this instantly becomes just another dick its no excitement or drama or tingles so always leave a slutty woman she wont respect you are the family because women are selfish for tingles and will stop at nothing.The men who have plenty options (alphas) dont get treated this bad because when women know this it causes tingles because of the competetion from other women she will share his dck until she gets broken emotionally and then seek out a beta for stable resources meanwhile fcking the alphas on the side thats why we say alpha fux/beta bux its for a reason awalt never trust them she cant love you but she can respect you if she knows you will walk away at any given moment.
OP: for formatting purposes, you have to put two line breaks between paragraphs. Otherwise, if you just do a single line break, Reddit's formatting doesn't recognize it and you just end up with one huge paragraph.
How do you do that. I never knew how and have been afraid to ask for years.
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is typing this: &.n.p.s.p without . the proper way?
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End each paragraph with two spaces and an enter. That will put you on a new line.
Two spaces enter two spaces enter will be a new paragraph
that doesn't seem to work, but the code I found above works. I think you know an easier way, and I think you must have mis-wrote it. Let me know if you did write it wrong pls.
A line break is done with two carriage returns (Enter). That's it, nothing more.
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This story is bullshit.
I already told it much of it is mine. https://archive.is/1W6Nj
? It's a cross post from the original, no one's claiming it to be theirs
Doyouseriouslyexpectsomeonetoreadthatunformattedcrap?
thatunformattedcraphappenstobethehighestpostonprorevenge.