I've never seen a male fat acceptance movement before. Logic doesn't seem to be enough to convince these fat activists they're obviously wrong.

asininechris · 2017-02-15T15:30:27+00:00

If there were a movement that pushed "fat acceptance" for men, you would hear something along the lines of "Why does it matter if he's 300+lbs? You should date him for what's inside. Don't be shallow." But, you don't. Hence, why certain women are completely confident within themselves when approaching any man—they know the rules are skewed for their gender.

mcr00sterdota · 2017-02-15T11:21:39+00:00

Because women aren't on our team. It's a simple as that. Look at how fast the dad bod died, it's ok for women to be loved for who they are but not men.

victor_knight · 2017-02-15T12:01:51+00:00

Let's be honest. It's also related to looks as female expectation of men has grown beyond provision and protection (they have the state for that now). That's one of the main motivators for men to "get healthy". Of course, most fitness trainers and doctors won't actually come out and say that because it seems shallow.

B_Campbell · 2017-02-15T12:03:31+00:00

All the social issues where men have all these advantages are only the top 10%. The rest of men they just expect to shut up, work, and die.

WhorehouseVet · 2017-02-15T08:55:05+00:00

Do you know why it's a complete bullshit looking from the male eyes? Because women are solipsistic, feelz before realz. Women feel happy being a lazy sac of shit, and her hamster will rationalize that it's the norm.

Archwinger · 2017-02-15T14:08:39+00:00

It's a testament to our crazy modern society.

People want to be good-looking. They're obsessed with looks. People barely think about health or strength.

So the only reason most people work out or eat right is to be good-looking, the only reason they hate being fat is because they're not good looking, and the main reason they hate being judged for fatness is because they feel it's shallow to be judged based on their looks.

Fat is unhealthy. If your wife is 300 pounds, she's going to cost more to support in the form of medical bills, clothing, sturdy furniture, and she just plain eats and drinks more.

Furthermore, when you're on a business trip to earn a massive salary to support your massive wife, if the house catches on fire, your fatass wife won't be able to make it up the stairs and get both children out of the house safely. She can't climb the stairs on a good day without getting winded. Add the stress of a fire, and she's done. Your kids will die on her watch.

Not to mention fat women feed their kids shit in an effort to make them fat like her so she doesn't feel so terrible and alone. And they have shit personalities and always have a chip on their shoulder and something to prove, all stemming from their crap self esteem.

Besides being less sexy and crap to be around, fat women are more expensive to support, and they're unfit, shitty mothers. If you can't get your kids out of the house in a fire in two minutes or less, you're an unfit mother. Same's true of fat men. Fat people are just shitty.

TuckingCucks · 2017-02-15T20:46:52+00:00

Love how the people who judge men exclusively on height and penis size try to normalize obesity. bullshit artists

czech_man · 2017-02-15T14:43:43+00:00

Somewhere on this sub, I read: "if I'm supposed to accept you for being fat, where is my short guys acceptance movement?" I am going to add balding men movement (yes, i'm balding at the age of 19, FML).

As a short (5'8") man, this hits home hard. Believe me, if there was a workout to do that would help me become taller, i would fucking live in the gym.

Thanks to you guys, i understand that all the ridicule i've been subjected to was just people shit testing me and making themselves feel better. I also realized my own strengths and am going to work on those.

However, whenever i hear someone go, "i hate being fat" i cant help but think he/she is a piece of shit person. There is nothing easier than losing weight. Try growing and stopping male pattern baldness, then we can talk.

shabbah123 · 2017-02-15T13:06:17+00:00

You are complete right and there needs to be a whole shift in how health is perceived amongst this generation.

I am currently obese and have lost a little weight, on track this year to lose it all. It's not easy as a fat person but first thing you have to do is accept that you are fat and it's ok right now. However, you must also accept that being this way will kill you inside and out and you must make changes immediately, small or big, you must make them.

Fat shaming should never be the cause of change for obese people, that motivation won't last when things get difficult.

[deleted] · 2017-02-15T14:54:42+00:00

I don't even see that much "fat shaming" going on in our society. I personally don't give a fuck what lifestyles people choose to live.

That said, I have tastes and preferences for what type of women I want to date and be intimate with and I won't do that with fat people. The real shaming comes in this movement trying to make me feel like a "bad" person for my ideals and preferences. The irony is ridiculous when you think of it. Why do men prefer fit/thin/healthy women? Because on a biological scale, these women are FAR more likely to give birth to healthy children. Our reptile brains know this and point us to these body types. Science, for the win.

rebuildingMyself · 2017-02-15T15:30:32+00:00

Nothing made me laugh more than the fat chick posing with a male model (six pack and all) and preaching fat acceptance.

Edit: Here's a sample

TimmyTurnersNuts · 2017-02-15T16:29:58+00:00

Women absolutely believe that they shouldn't have to put In any work, but expect men to be absolutely perfect, while still not fulfilling her desires. No fatties period. If she doesn't atleast go to the gym a few times a week or watch what she eats, she's no use of me

LymanRP · 2017-02-15T15:25:24+00:00

Obesity should be considered no different than smoking. In fact, some studies have shown that the health risks of obesity are worse than those of drinking, smoking or poverty.

We don't shame smokers, but there certainly isn't a smokers acceptance movement. Smoking is now considered a stigma, yet we have to accept fat people? I'm not for fat shaming, but these people need to be encouraged to lose weight. In theory, if we tax cigarettes due to the health hazards and to discourage smoking, shouldn't we tax obesity as well? Japan has actually instituted a fat tax. I don't want to get into a political discussion over the role of government here, but if a fat tax were ever tried in the USA it would get killed... whereas people have no problem taxing smokers. I am OK with paying more for health care as a health young male to subsidize people with legit preexisting conditions (the ones that have them due to no fault of their own), however I don't want to subsidize someone's terrible eating habits--I don't think it's unreasonable to have obese people pay an additional surcharge to their health care premiums.

Realistically, a lot of the obesity that we see today is due to our poor diets. If you look in the average American's pantry or fridge, you'll see a bunch of crap. Processed food products. The cause stems from back in the 70's when it was decided that fat was bad. Instead of eating natural fatty foods, we took the fat out of everything and replaced it with sugar.

jugernot420 · 2017-02-15T16:07:25+00:00

Fat men aren't fat only fat women are fat -Peter griffin

jtarb · 2017-02-15T14:59:23+00:00

Look up Jason Docherty and the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance... died from Morbid Obesity issues.

[deleted] · 2017-02-15T17:51:26+00:00

But they never cared about facts. It's been a bunch of gross self-loathing women from the start, who were given a free pass on their bullshit delusions because pointing out the truth would be "mean" or "misogynistic." There is nothing rational about their movement, so its impervious to logic. No mentally sound person takes them seriously.

valdirtheblue · 2017-02-15T11:41:23+00:00

It's funny because nearly every man who is fat, knows he is fat and needs to do something about it. Whether they do or don't is immaterial, they know deep down and feel some level of shame. On the other hand, women are told that every size is beautiful, to be comfortable in their bodies! These lies are designed to sell more materialistic products to fat women.

kellykebab · 2017-02-15T16:39:27+00:00

I'm no doctor, but it looks exactly like an addiction enabling movement. Every time I see anything about fat acceptance on social media, I automatically think "alcoholism acceptance." I doubt past feminists would have endorsed this movement, but the identity aspect of social justice has been emphasized so excessively that any and all retards are jumping aboard. Doubtless, at least some contemporary feminists and SJWs find that movement obnoxious.

casecarino · 2017-02-15T19:15:57+00:00

Women just don't want to be judged by the things they can't fake. That's it.

TheStumblingWolf · 2017-02-15T12:43:27+00:00

Fat acceptance is about feels, so logic has no power.

I don't care what people do as long as they accept that I get turned off by too much fat.

darklogic420 · 2017-02-15T20:20:55+00:00

A true body acceptance movement would address people with physical malformations either from birth or through trauma. It would also address heightism is women and shame them for not wanting to date short men. It would embrace genital diversity and raise huge schlongs and tiny peckers as being equal, as well as both tight and loose vaginas. In other words, it would constantly remind us that a person's body is not necessarily a reflection on their character. Fat acceptance is not body acceptance, as it demands that we accept someone's personal choices. Fat acceptance is a form of enabling, just like those who enable overindulgence in smoking or in drinking. If these people spent as much energy getting their lives in order as they spend berating people for disaproving of their life choices they would be healthier and live longer. But they won't, so they'll die early and they don't matter.

stephcurrythrowaway · 2017-02-15T19:53:14+00:00

The more i visit this page the more I see the hypocrisy in society. Like honestly

Women want to be accepted for they are but won't accept men for who they are.

[deleted] · 2017-02-15T14:58:50+00:00

You guys make some great points. I know why I subscribe to this Reddit now. Frankly, I work my fucking ass off to avoid dad-bod, because I know that people in shape and carrying themselves with pride and dignity get paid more, are more successful, and are happier. Period. But women in the south can tend a bit heavier, to be nice, and therefore they are intimidated as shit by a fit man. It's stupid. Women that are in shape wind up picking a guy that's a chub, until they get that divorce later on in life, and find a man that shares her interest in fitness.

But being fat is comfortable for a lot of these gals, and to be truthful, men too. Betas, I guess. That's debatable if being fat is a beta tendency though because some people eat a lot because they have the coin and life to do it, presumably bc they make bank.

SouloftheVoid · 2017-02-15T18:58:06+00:00

You always see people putting fat women on TV and calling them beautiful but you never see them doing that with fat men. A fat guy can get on occasionally get TV if he is a good enough comedian, but that's it.

Cynewald · 2017-02-16T14:20:49+00:00

The problem is there isn't enough healthy weight women to go around in the USA, UK, Australia. This enables shaming of men who want healthy weight women because healthy weight women are now a scarce, precious resource. The amount of women with an unhealthy BMI has now reached 68% of adult women in the USA and the UK & Australia aren't far behind. This means that only 32% of women over age 18 are of healthy body weight in the USA. Let that sink in. 32%. So by supply and demand we have 85% of men competing for 32% of the women (we'll discount the 15% of men WHO DO like the bigger girls). Of course any guy of a healthy weight - but is ugly and or low SMV - is going to be shamed and told a healthy girl is above him, out of his league and out of reach, only making him feel anger that obese girls are seen in his league, and he's pushed to date them. Slim girls (even ugly faced ones) are fetching higher bids from guys of higher calibre than they are (average guys, good looking guys), so the ugly man who is healthy weight himself and who likes healthy weight women, ends up the loser unless he's a willing pigfucker. This is just how it is. Smart ugly guys who hate fat chicks get out and get a slim Asian girl, they age better as well.

[deleted] · 2017-02-15T15:14:03+00:00

As a girl... this was a beautiful post. I thought the fat acceptance or anti body shamers movement was absolutely ridiculous and could only lead to more obesity etc down the line.

horologicalparallax · 2017-02-15T15:14:46+00:00

We should have cancer acceptance day.

Stythe · 2017-02-15T15:17:07+00:00

When you see a people trying to promote shit that's so obviously and legitimately unhealthy you really start to lose the ability to lie to yourself about the world. For some, it could be a good thing. For most, probably jusy another filter to live under and continue being deluded.

On a related note, there was some fake news about some hamplanet who had fallen over in her wheelchair reaching for food at Walmart. She was mocked and ridiculed and of course this article talked about how this brave pig-woman-thing was speaking out against fat shamers. I didn't read it, but it was hilarious the extent people are going to when it comes to deluding themselves.

Honestly, I can only see a full change coming about if enough of these idiots die from their own unhealthy lifestyles that the rest of the world lives simply because of their better choices and continues teaching those. Of course all it takes is one person with a ham-relative killed by diabetes to chain start a movement that leads doctors to inventing an insulin that all but stops diabetes and let's fatties live forever against nature, passing their shitty logic down with them.

RichieFinn · 2017-02-15T15:40:03+00:00

This guys videos been plugged here with the same message over and over for the past 2 weeks can we relax

lukethe · 2017-02-15T21:04:20+00:00

All that matters deep down is if you're happy... if someone loves you for who you are, not how you are, does it not matter whether you are skinny or fat? It's that person's choice to either make themselves healthier or not. It's not for another to decide. Worry about your own body; don't project your insecurities on others.

ImTooCozy · 2017-02-15T21:20:46+00:00

Fat Acceptance is BULLSHIT that is probably peddled by Big Pharma so they have more customers!!

[deleted] · 2017-02-15T23:13:51+00:00

the equivalent of male fat acceptance is the stay at home dads are important tooooooooooo nonsense

[deleted] · 2017-02-16T01:40:53+00:00

Damn, now I feel like shit for being attracted to overweight men/women. It would be so nice to be able to be attracted to someone thin and healthy.

Spoopsnloops · 2017-02-16T02:04:33+00:00

I think the real issue is that men don't actually take these causes to the street. In some cases they do, but usually I don't really see men doing this type of stuff.

If they want a cause to be taken seriously then they should start a cause, not just attempt to highlight a discrepancy by arguing a strawman position.

If you saw a protest for men based on something serious related to mens rights like what you saw with women against Trump, it would likely be taken seriously.

spikeybumpy · 2017-02-16T02:11:56+00:00

Notice how its called fat "acceptance" instead of "pride"? Deep down, these people know that they have a massive negative characteristic that makes them less healthy and less attractive. Take the fat woman TED talk that Bearing was shitting on recently. She makes fat 'jokes' but you can tell it bothers her. Then, like a big mouth billy bass, she starts spouting buzz words, literally "patriarchy" and "capitalism"; to try to rationalize the problem and cement herself as a victim of some conspiracy.

Yakatonker · 2017-02-16T03:26:29+00:00

You should stick to being a personal trainer, it seems that's all you're good at.

Why do the governments in sync excuse the hambeasts, if not outwardly fight for tolerance of this health deficit in people. Not just the government but corporations acting in sync? Because the economy runs on human blood. Think a self focused individual is going to sacrifice their personal health and social economy to drive themselves into the ground to oil the economic machine?

In order to get women into the workforce there must be obvious tolerances created as to attract women into career positions. The other factor is that women need tailoring, unlike men who retard in their social webs, women are more likely to break out of career unless the fold of Matriarchs are in sync with the economic agenda.

The government wants people to burn for economic production. Money buys people, security and stability even if a person is obese though to the varyng degrees there is obesity and there is wealth. Is money and econimic power worth obesity? It actually depends for people.

Luckyluke23 · 2017-02-16T04:45:17+00:00

come on people you know " it works for women, but doesn't work the other way"

it's just how it is.

thechaosz · 2017-02-16T09:27:29+00:00

I just posted on leangains about this. I'll take less competition anyday of the week.

That being said, fat acceptance is a strange and foreign concept to me.

If someone said crack acceptance, it would be outrageous. Yet, on your long term health, it's much worse

tomothy94 · 2017-02-16T10:54:48+00:00

I'm not even obese. Are you? Or are you just a cunt?

hunteeer · 2017-02-16T22:44:47+00:00

How about rolling this up from the other end? Why are so many people desperately working on staying/becoming fit? Because if you aren't you are shit to most people. It's ridiculous. If somebody feels content with being fat and dieing young, why force them to change?

mocket_ran · 2017-02-17T02:42:44+00:00

The other day I saw "This is Us" star Chrissy Metz on the cover of people magazine ...tag line "I'm Proud of Who I am". This of course referring to her obscene weight. I had the thought that this is no different than showing a woman (or man) holding a carton of cigarettes with the same tag line. The donuts and refined sugars that she no doubt shovels into her morbidly obese body are literally killing her...just like cigarettes. I'm so fucking tired of people calling obesity a disease like you got cancer or something. It's this simple..If you burn off more calories than you take in you loose weight. If you stop eating refined sugar you will also likely loose weight...you can eat as much spinach and carrots as you wan't and not get fat. Television shows even try to trick us by casting huge fat people on shows where there would be none. Lost, Walking dead...i'm sorry but with a scarcity of food while at the same time laboring all day trying to scavenge something...are you kidding me...no fat people.

Lsegundo · 2017-02-18T23:59:50+00:00

Why is there such a focus on accepting fat people rather than motivating them to make lifestyle changes

The answer to any of these questions is usually to follow the money. How many billions would Coke lose every body stopped drinking soda? Now add in McDonalds, Corn Syrup, candy etc.

The second part is most people are lazy and unmotivated. They want to be sold the shake weight, 5 minute abs, etc. Telling them they need to make sacrifices eating and spend 3 hours a week in the gym struggling and sweating is not a big seller.

TheRedStoic · 2017-02-25T15:01:08+00:00

There was the entire dad bod thing, that died very quickly because it was so easy to create myriad YouTube videos as evidence that it was bullshit.

TheYoungPatriarch · 2017-02-15T12:28:32+00:00

There is. It's called "Dad Bods."

OSaraiva · 2017-02-15T13:33:01+00:00

The world is filled with nutjobs, you may choose to reason with their distorted worlds where they find excuses for whatever behavior they need to validate or don't give a damn about it, better yourself and hang out with sane people worth your time.

ShneeblyFly · 2017-02-15T06:55:57+00:00

My issue with this is who the fuck cares about people sides yourself? Like why give a fuck about a bunch of people who want to destroy their own lives?

I been fat, then not fat, then fat again and hopefully not again some day. Some people are just going through a shit ton of stress and cant control wtf is going on with their lives. Its not like they are going to be that way forever, some of them grow up and figure out they need to be healthy. The rest that dont? Well not everyone in life is going to be a winner. Chicago is not magically going to be crime free and alabama is not suddenly going to have a full set of teeth for everyone to have.

I just cant comprehend this retarded logic I see all the time on this subreddit. Use your energy and time on yourself. Fuck fat people, fuck crack heads, fuck the broke ass bums on the street corner, fuck the guy at your work whos mildy austic, like really when I go home at the end of the day the last thing I want to think about is how retarded people are living their lives. Its just fucking depressing and I got enough shit I have to deal with on a daily basis to give a fuck if the boogie2988 and honey booboo childs of the world should be socially accepted by society or not. Just learn to capitalize on that shit for your personal gain and let people destroy their lives in peace.

I sell Oreos, Cupcakes, candies and all sorts of shit thats ruining peoples health on ebay, but really I dont give a fuck if this is causing fat people to be socially accepted since me paying my bills is more important than worrying about what the retarded ass news or what faggots on youtube are sayiing about fatass people. Yes, please keep saying its ok to be 400 lbs, ill be happy to sell more packs of diabetes so I can barely work and live carefree while a bunch of random fucks are committing legal suicide.

tomothy94 · 2017-02-15T18:53:15+00:00

I have serious motivation and depressional issues. I'm between meds right now and it fucking sucks. Try a day in someone shoes before you break your arm jerking yourself off

brooklynisburnin · 2017-02-15T15:08:09+00:00

I'm not defending fatsos here, but I don't agree with the usual arguments against fat acceptance and here's why:

Being healthy is good for you.

Good is subjective, you cannot assume your definition of well being is the same for everybody, because it's not, being healthy is being healthy, nothing more, nothing less.

you live longer

Potentially live longer, but true.

you are happier and life is better lived.

Again, subjective, being fat is just unhealthy, happiness is not objective, and good health doesn't translate to happiness either.

To try to manipulate people into believing fat is ok, just to satisfy your own decision and denial is shameful.

I agree, my only two problems with fat acceptance is that it promotes the victimization culture that is taking over society these days, and lots of times they say it's healthy when it's clearly not. But other than that, they can eat their lives away for all I care, whatever makes them happy without messing with other people's lives.

tomothy94 · 2017-02-15T17:50:48+00:00

so let me get this straight. You are sitting there as a persona trainer ranting because you think other people's bodies aren't very nice.

You may be right but you're still a dickhead. It's really none of your business.

Also no offence but you really don't know how much it can differ between people. Some people genuinely stay a healthy weight no matter what they do. Others put weight on very easily. { This is not made up. It's a fact, and if you're lucky enough to not have to put on weight then good for you, but you make the rest of us feel like idiots.

And if you think it pushes us to lose weight, what do you think happens when we've already been trying for years and can't?

Because i just literally want to kill myself, and you're pushing me closer.

Thanks.

bloodygripen · 2017-02-15T15:58:53+00:00

Because their movement started when models would almost starve to be thin af and then photoshopped to look even more thin. Some idiots though took it to the next level and started promoting that it doesn't matter if you're overweight. It's a fact that being fat is unhealty and that's why it is ridiculous. Because you obviously only see the stupid ones gaining media attention, you misinterpreted the whole thing wrong. Nobody should insult any woman over her appearance, that's just rude. The movement started as a sign against the fashion industry and it is important. The movement promoted initially that you should stop comparing yourself to those models that are starving so they could earn money. This movement should encourage women to live happier. That's it. Just because some fat women twisted this and started shouting "fat is beatiful" doesn't mean the whole movement is wrong. Fat women should still work out as do fat men. Not because the society hates fat people, but rather because it's unhealthy. Please check where movements originated and what they should promote before calling for a revolution. Also if you ever have a conversation about this topic, explain politely why you think it's wrong. If they start a rant, don't mock them. Just go away because they are not worthy of a real discussion.

PriestWithAnAbortion · 2017-02-15T12:59:38+00:00

As a big man myself I have pushed for acceptance of my frame. It doesn't matter to me if I get it or not, I just like talking. I know skinnies with higher cholesterol than me! My third fiance said she didn't like how I ate so many eggs. I told her eggs were good for me, but she didn't like all the ketchup I put on them.

olican101 · 2017-02-15T14:07:46+00:00

"Oh no! Other people have the freedom to live their life how they want" is all I read. If other people are fat then wtf does it have to do with you? Mind your own god damn business.

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I've never seen a male fat acceptance movement before. Logic doesn't seem to be enough to convince these fat activists they're obviously wrong.

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I've never seen a male fat acceptance movement before. Logic doesn't seem to be enough to convince these fat activists they're obviously wrong.

I've never seen a male fat acceptance movement before. Logic doesn't seem to be enough to convince these fat activists they're obviously wrong

I've never seen a male fat acceptance movement before. Logic doesn't seem to be enough to convince these fat activists they're obviously wrong.

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