I Have a Boyfriend.

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The granddaddy of all shit tests.

If you've been good boys and actually gone out hunting using your TRP knowledge, no doubt you'll have heard this line. Ad infinitum. Every day some variation gets posted over in asktrp. It DOESN'T matter. That combination of words should have absolutely no bearing on your behaviour. Zero impact. Keep doing what you were doing.

Sad beta boys take it as, "politely fuck off." Do not let yourself shoot yourself in the foot like this. Don't "assume" that this phrase means what you think it is. You aren't very good at translating womanese. Stop assuming you are. Tripping over your own dick, taking yourself out of the game. Proving you are Pareto's lower 80%.

Every woman worth opening has a long list of BF's, potential BF's, BFF's, orbiters, FWB's, etc., all jostling to get to the front of her stage. All the damn time. You should actually be concerned if a hot girl is "single". If you want to get into the mix, why would you be content with a spot up in the nosebleed section? Stand up. Be noticeable. Know that you are a much higher SMV prize than any Schrodinger's boyfriend she might have.

As your awareness and SMV rise, in response, the volume of IHABF you receive will drop significantly.

By not being phased by it you're communicating higher value than her boyfriend in a tacit way, and also demonstrating confidence.

Why do women say it, then?

1 - Who cares? Watch their actions, don't listen to the words.

2 - It's often clarifying to add "right now" onto the end of every sentence that emanates from the female mind, the hamster and "feels before reals" rationalization is strong.

3 - It works. They notice that weak little creepy guys automaticallly bro-knight/whiteknight, tuck tail and go away. Which is what they want weak little creepy guys to do.

4 - A conditioned response to being hit on on the street.

5 - It just might mean, "Politely fuck off." Calibrate.

It's a shit test. Nothing more, nothing less. Treat it as such. Options. Women have them. If she says IHABF then continues to engage, the ball remains in play.

Read Chateau Heartiste's Guide on how to pass this test to your benefit regarding qualifying versus disqualifying responses.

You can't "steal" a girl anymore than you can negotiate attraction. It's always up to her whether she'll choose you. Does this have a reflection on her morals if she'll cheat on a boyfriend? Sure, that's part of the vetting process. But she chooses to alter her relationship status when it meshes with her own hypergamy...i.e. branch swinging. Be the higher branch. Be aware that most women hesitate to let go of their former branch before grabbing onto the newer better one.

Don't hate the players or the game. Use your knowledge of the game board to your advantage.

Personally, I'm a fan of acting like I didn't even hear it and carrying on, but here are some responses.....

He can join in too.

That's great, no one cares.

Perfect. I'm married and have 6 kids.

Are you happy?

Relax, who said I was hitting on you?

I have a girlfriend. Double-date?


Excellent, when’s the wedding?

You're an independent girl, right?


Do I look like Dr. Phil? I don’t want to hear about your problems.

I'll bring you back home in time for him to tuck you in.

You look like the type of girl that can handle two.

You need his permission to talk to people?

I don’t care.

I guess my place it is then.

I have an English test tomorrow. Oh wait, I thought we were listing things we will cheat on.

Tell him to quit cockblocking.

Not a deal breaker. Anything else I should know about?

Me too. But mine lets me talk to other people without getting angry and jealous.

He's gonna be pretty sad when you dump him for me.

Don't get ahead of yourself, this is only the first time we have met.

I didn't ask if you had a BF, I asked for your number.

How long have you had this problem?

I have a girlfriend, so at least we're on the same page.

Does this smell like chloroform to you?

Thats fine, I can be your man-friend.

Does he have guns?

Just because there's a goalie doesn't mean I can't score.

That's surprising.

I assume you are familiar with the 10 mile rule?

How's that working out for you?

That's fine, he can watch if he likes.

Only one?

Me too, but he doesn't know I'm straight so this will have to be our secret.

What's that have to do with me?

Is that an objection or an obstacle?

That's fine, you could use an upgrade.

Post Information
Title I Have a Boyfriend.
Author RogerNorvell
Upvotes 340
Comments 138
Date 30 May 2018 06:09 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/50574
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/8nasy1/i_have_a_boyfriend/
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[–]caP1taL1sm293 points294 points  (10 children) | Copy

Most of those responses aren't good, never mention "Cheating" or don't compare yourself in anyway, just makes it awkward. Also I never follow it up with any question about the relationship.

Ignoring is the best and only option, if you continue talking and conversing and she stays interested then you're fine, if not, then it was probably a "fuck off" not a shit test.

[–]badzachlv01125 points126 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yeah most guys go straight to trying to downplay or undermine the other dude, but it comes off as desperate as fuck and insecure. When I've done before is talk the dude up a bit (not ass kissing) but saying like, "Oh he sounds cool", "Nice it sounds like he has his shit together"

Generally the girls are already thinking of their man's shortcomings and their relationship problems, if you try to cast him in a good light those problems will pop up straight in her head and increase your chances. But if you go straight to trying to trash the dude, she's going to get defensive immediately and you end up sounding creepy/needy as shit like OPs lines

[–]SavvyMillennial3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

A lot of PUA's would follow it up with "Your not allowed to have friends"?

Which is kind of a cool response. It feeds her ego. Her next thought would be like "your right, i'm a free women I can do what I want".

If she doesn't like you it probably wont matter though.

[–]Ervin_A11 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy

Good reply. I agree with every point of this post save for the examples at the end. Why is it always that when PUA advice columns give examples of responses, they almost always sound super gay and try-hard and unnatural?

[–]3LiveAFTSOV-3 points-2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Because you probably aren't as social, funny, clever, good worth words or quick witted.

In which case ignoring it is the best option.

[–]ExxxtremeHatred 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

HAHAHAHA naw dude that was absolutely pathetic. I thought you were joking with all that. I would pay money to see you actually try some of this shit. It reads like those lists of shit religious groups suggest you should say to say no to drugs, except actually even worse. One of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen.

[–]look_good-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

it’s not what u say but how you say it

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, either say "me too" or completely ignore it

[–]gunsliquorstrippers0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Give me an example of proper ignoring in this situation - I approach an acquaintance and ask for her Instagram. She replies “I have a boyfriend.”

[–]LexaBinsr0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Tuck tail. Go away. Lift more. Lose more weight if you're fat.

I was on board with this post until I saw the cringy responses. If a girl opens up with "I have a BF" when you ask for her Instagram, she is definitely not interested in anything. It's just a massive big red fucking siren that tells you "you need to work further on yourself". Women that are interested in quality men don't say they have a boyfriend.

[–]tempolaca215 points216 points  (31 children) | Copy

I just messaged my LTR from a fake account.

She never told the fake account she had a boyfriend. AWALT.

[–]AnyDoughnut115 points116 points  (9 children) | Copy

She just wants to find out if the new man (fake account) is a trade up before running him off. You can pretty much expect a woman to always shop around. If she finds a wealthier beta or more Chaddier Chad then you'll be ancient history.

[–]tempolaca33 points34 points  (7 children) | Copy

At the end, she rejected the dating proposal of the fake account. Apparently the fake account wasn't as good as me (she asked where the fake worked, where he lived etc.)

So happy ending...for now. Still, she never named me. I trust, but verify.

[–]kat33c73 points74 points  (2 children) | Copy

You should make the fake higher quality than you. See what she does.

[–]modTheRedPike[M] 58 points59 points  (0 children) | Copy

Adding chaos to the system. I like it. A+

[–]nhlfod2148 points49 points  (3 children) | Copy

Dude, that's creepy. If she's hot she'll always have options. AWALT. Spying on her will make no difference.

[–]blacklightsleaze6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Creepy or not doesn't matter, because its an eye opener.

[–]look_good12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

awalt bro, this type of shit is neurotic/bitch-like

[–]TheReformist94-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Here you go.cheat as much as you can. You have the proof.dont be a cuck

[–]snmgl50 points51 points  (2 children) | Copy

when there is doubt there is no doubt

[–]heartbroken_nerd11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

You're as blue as blue one can be. Why do you even have a girlfriend?

Try this post.

[–]tempolaca1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I know. I readed it. I'm old and comfy, a LTR sometimes won't kill me.

[–]miller21123 points24 points  (1 child) | Copy

Lol that says alot about you bro 😂 I don't blame her

[–]DayGameChirality11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Some women will just do that to 95% of men. Which only says he's not 5%, not anything else.

[–]manwithoutwire-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Why? I'm surprised you even have a LTR. This is just weird.

[–]RedPilledRoaster4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Any beta can have an LTR if they can provide

[–][deleted] 81 points82 points  (6 children) | Copy

"What does that have to do with me?" Forces a beautiful choice with best outcomes.

[–]swimminginblue3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Used this , can confirm. Or “

[–]Spangenhelm1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

I call that, "The Positive K." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvYIpa1Ulvw

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

My man, positive K. Definitely my favorite song now.

[–]trtanon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"How long you had that problem?"

[–]miller21157 points58 points  (4 children) | Copy

Oh wow... If you do the gun-flex line, id get embarrassed for you if I saw it..

A few of these are pretty clever tho :p

[–]1empatheticapathetic3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

You own it and give no fucks. The point is just to show confidence and lack of fucks about what anyone thinks without excessive social retardation.

[–]GrimTRP4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

I've done the flex one before in a crowded mall. It was beautiful

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (1 child) | Copy

"Excuse me, do you know a good vet?"

"Because these PYTHONS are SICK!!"

[–]infamous323838 points39 points  (1 child) | Copy

In my experience, the best response to IHABF is to completely ignore and change the subject. Yes, there's a bunch of creative lines you can say in response if you have to, but it's better to avoid the topic entirely since you want her to be thinking about you, not her boyfriend.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

The series Rick and Morty did a few scenes making fun of the female tendency to use the I have a boyfriend line. They take it up a whole level of meta if you watch the whole episode because the girl is from a civilization where survival of the fittest is the only way to survive, and she's looking for her mistaken concept of security by using the classic shit test. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om4_pz8lmBM But in so doing she condemns her entire planet to the dystopia that Rick just saved them from.

I like to think that women who play these stupid games win stupid prizes, that is, ultimately win a parasitic males and later in life wonder what the hell they did wrong. In the episode, Morty beta cucks away in response, but in so bowing out, the choice dooms her entire planet to the slavery Rick just saved it from.

The apparent white knight beta male move, where you bows out and respond: "understood, have a nice day" to the "I already have a boyfriend" line can be an alpha move if done right, later in the week she'll be kicking herself for using the line and chasing away her best option she's had in years, and decades later drink herself to destruction saying: "I could have had a wealthy lifestyle under a wealthy beta male, but now I'm here carrying all my weight and the weight of an abusive alpha male who has rocks where the brains ought to be.

Don't sweat it, women who play those games are nothing but trouble and strife all your days anyway. I see the "I have a boyfriend line" as a red flag. Friend zone her.

[–][deleted] 37 points38 points  (15 children) | Copy

Fucked a girl today who had a boyfriend. Chatted her up yesterday pretty much using the stuff you wrote here, it’s usually pretty easy honestly. I’ll probably never have an LTR anytime soon cause it’s scary how easy girls cheat

[–]Withmere49 points50 points  (14 children) | Copy

Extremely scary once you get redpilled to it. Studied abroad last summer and almost every girl who had a bf who wasn't present, cheated. Likely because the odds of getting caught were so low. Most women don't actually value the commitment, rather they weight the risk of getting caught and damaging their social structure.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (5 children) | Copy

That last sentence is so spot on. I’ve been thinking about that but haven’t been able to word it that properly

[–]TheReformist942 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

I've been trying to push the message that men aren't the gatekeepers of commitment because women don't want it

[–]RaughKee0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Men are still the gatekeepers of commitment, it's just that woman are looking for security and comfort from that commitment and will branch swing for either a) more security and comfort, or b) tingles.

[–]TheReformist941 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Those are not sexual traits and can be sourced from numerous men. It's not conducive your sexual strategy. Not the word sexual

[–]RaughKee0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Are you saying that woman won’t jump to a better beta (more resources, better future, more caring)?

[–]Ninokun-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Its so spot on because its exactly how i would think, And as a Woman u can literally schedule a cheat fuck, as a Man u would have to juggle ur time somehow.

[–]Unboundaries21 points22 points  (4 children) | Copy

You guys consistently complain about women with boyfriends cheating.....BUT


No fucking wonder they cheat! They have a bitchmade, needy, desperate male sitting at home who can't call it off even when it makes no sense. How can she respect a man who does not even respect himself? For fuck's sake women aren't that bad, or at least no worse than these fucking idiots entertaining these relationships.

[–]Withmere4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

I don't understand your anger, and I don't think it makes a guy beta to value a LTR. I've had LTRs, FWB, hook ups, all the like. I actually prefer LTR the most. They have myriad benefits that outweigh the benefits and costs of other arrangements in my mind.

I see it as commitment and loyalty more than needy and desperate, transcending animalistic impulses. But feel free to disagree.

Plus, to tie this into TRP ideas, this isn't even a hypergamous branch swing. Women who cheat abroad probably will never see the Italian or French guy again. They aren't upgrading their social status, money, or power. They're just getting off to a quick fuck. The fact that it's not hypergamy, just lust, makes it pretty reprehensible to me. It's a sin for a reason.

[–]Unboundaries2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Had no clue religion even had its place in the Red Pill. Commitment and loyalty quickly becomes needy, beta stupidity when implemented in the way you speak of. Loyalty is not being sexless for 6 months at a time while a girlfriend who lives 3000 miles across the fucking sea. That's just being dumb. That is called having no self-respect for yourself and placing her on the pedestal, like you live to please her.

What makes a man beta is to be a fool, that is so desperate, lazy and dumb to not drop her if she was going to be away for months at a time. You are signalling to her that you are desperate and do not have any options of your own. That you are okay with her being 3000 miles away for 3 months because you aren't a man that can replace her. She sees this WEAKNESS, and women despise this weakness in a person. So she knocks boots with someone on the trip and it will never be caught. As said, if you entertain this as a guy you're weak, plain and simple, to be 20 something and act like this is the only piece of ass to walk the earth.

The right approach is to simply tell her to her face that you will not be exclusive while she is away for this long and this far. Tell her and hold firm. If you are a man you would not entertain this with some woman you're not even married to. If you're married that's another story with another set of problems.

[–]catchpull1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

A married wife acts the same damn way.

[–]TheReformist942 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

So the question is why do guys not adjust and cheat? Spinning plates ain't the answer,men have a desire for stability and some form of sexual exclusivity as well

[–]askmrcia1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Ok this was most certainly not the case when I studied abroad. I know women can be whores but let's not get out of hand.

When I studied abroad there were four girls who had serious boyfriends and they didn't come close to cheating. While me and other students were drinking and partying are asses off, these girls were in bed by 10pm.

You can tell which girls would cheat. There was one girl who claimed she had a boyfriend and she cheated. But I knew off rip that their relationship wasn't serious just by the way she was acting.

[–]Withmere3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm not lying, I guess we just had different experiences. There was a girl who was 5 years engaged who fucked a guy in the bar bathroom right outside class, and they had an ongoing thing. One girl I hooked up with was in a 2 year relationship (bf was beta af). A lot of female gossip about the flings that were happening with girls about "hey... doesn't she have a boyfriend?". Brought it up with my sister and she was abroad 2 years ago with a friend who was in a 2 year relationship who cheated multiple times and continued to date the boyfriend and never tell him. It's more common than you think man.

[–]HeyYouWhoM39 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol I hooked up with a chick on the weekend, she was making out with me and telling me to take her home, found out the next day after she added me on Facebook that she had a bf. If a girl wants to fuk you then a lot of times she won’t even mention him. As has happened before for me

[–]DadOnDabs43 points44 points  (28 children) | Copy

I do sales and I can compare it to when someone tells me they are "just looking" or "just bought last year". The average sales guy says "okay let me know if you find something you like" and let's them leave. I, on the other hand, follow up with "what kind of vehicle are you looking for? / perfect time to trade while your vehicle still has great equity!"

Same shit different concept. Move past it and continue the sale.

[–]caP1taL1sm23 points24 points  (27 children) | Copy

That's what I like about being on the other end of the sale, I get to tell scummy salesguys like you to literally fuck off.

Women are too dainty to do it though

EDIT: Also why I hate the "Sales" comparison to getting women: if you work in sales that is quite literally your livelihood, how you make money, etc. you have a simply economic incentive to always sale with 0 regard to your customer. Dating women is in very little ways similar, I'm not going to desperately try and do anything possible to "close" her, me putting food on the table depends 0 on if I sleep with another woman for the rest of my life. It's just totally an optionality thing. -->abundance -->IDGAF -->Not being desperate

[–]1legedu10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

The best customer is a repeat customer. I don't think you know a whole lot about sales. It is absolutely an appropriate analogy.

[–]caP1taL1sm0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Wat, that goes against the grain of this entire sub. That's basically saying go straight to LTR lol

[–]1legedu3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

What do you think spinning plates is?

[–]asapkokeman8 points9 points  (6 children) | Copy

"Scummy Sales guys like you"

I still make more money in 4 months than you likely make in an entire year, I don't care if i'm scummy.

"Also why I hate the 'sales' comparison to getting women"
Spoken like someone who's either never done sales or failed at it. You'd be an idiot to ignore the obvious similarities between sales and getting girls. In sales you blow through smokescreens. With girls, you blow through shit tests. With sales you win by being charismatic. With girls you win by being charismatic. You get sales by maintaining frame and showing you're the expert on the issue. You get girls by maintaining frame and showing you see right through them. I can go on and on. Don't bullshit yourself and go back to engineering or whatever it is you do buddy.

"I'm not going to desperately try and do anything possible to "close" her"

You doing this is probably why you failed in sales like we discussed earlier. You don't get sales by being a desperate sales prostitute. You get sales by not being afraid to walk away and spend your time with potential customers that won't be self righteous pricks like you.

[–]Cozc6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

All the people hating on sales cause they cant do it.

Literally everything is sales. You sell your time for a pay check, you sell yourself to your friends/LTR, hell you even sell the cartilage in your knees in exchange for the distance youll travel whilst moving them.

Every single thing in life is an act of exchanging one thing for another. If you think things being sold is a scummy practice, you were born to the wrong world.

[–]caP1taL1sm1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

I still make more money in 4 months than you likely make in an entire year, I don't care if i'm scummy.

xD I work in finance in NYC there bud, I'm quite alright in that department.

The rest of that diarrhea, like a girl saying "I have a Boyfriend", I shall ignore.

[–]monadyne0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

xD I work in finance in NYC

And you had the nerve to call a sales guy "scummy"? There is nobody scummier than a person who works in finance in New York City.

[–]caP1taL1sm2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm not on my knees cold calling begging people to buy whatever shitty product I'm commissioned to sell them.

I think you have it backwards -- the scummy part is how I would feel doing your job. I don't feel scummy being well compensated for an elite education and skillset, that's my value and what I deserve to earn. And I learn interesting new things about various industries and companies as opposed to being a less-efficient human advertisement

[–]askmrcia1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ok this made me laugh out loud. Two guys arguing who is more scummy. But the new York finance guy walked right into that one.

[–]RaughKee0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I agree, I did sales years ago as a young guy and many of those skills translate directly to game. It's not a job that I'd want to do for a lifetime but I appreciate the experience.

[–]DadOnDabs6 points7 points  (13 children) | Copy

It's all about presentation. It's a default reaction to say "I'm just looking". But I know my inventory so I'll ask "were you thinking car truck or suv?"

Stepping onto a dealerships lot and expecting them to let you look around without trying to sell you a car is like going to a strip club for the alcohol and getting pissed when a stripper asks if you want a dance. It's their job.

I may be scummy but at least I'm not retarded.

[–]sara-3416 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

I bought a mattress recently for over $1K. I went to the first store, listened to the sales guy's explanation, then asked for time to just try out the mattresses. I picked one out, but I never buy from the first place I go without checking out at least one other option. I got the guy's card and went to a different store.

At the second store, the sales guy wouldn't leave me alone. He was so thirsty I couldn't deal with it. They had great mattresses, but I left, went back to the first store and bought the mattress there, and spent some time with the sales guy making fun of how thirsty the guy at the other store had been.

There is a strategy to both approaches, but there are also people who, even if they were interested in what was being sold to begin with, will give a hard pass to salespeople who come on too strong.

Same is true of women.

[–]caP1taL1sm3 points4 points  (9 children) | Copy

Do you work at an actual car dealership? Yikes man I would never wanna do that lol

Didn't realize people actually still bought cars from dealers anymore, surprised that's even a viable profession in this day and age

[–]DadOnDabs4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

People still drive cars don't they?

[–]caP1taL1sm6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Very true, people still read books and Barnes and Nobles is doing well! Same with Blockbuster, they still watch movies at home!

[–]SeratoninRising 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

So then how ironic is it that your name is capitalism? ;)

[–]caP1taL1sm1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm just saying this analogy that's thrown around about sales and getting women is not useful or adequate.

The better analogy is interviewing <--> dating. Both very similar approaches, and interestingly people who do well in one tend to do well in other.

There's also different level of sales, I'm assuming most of the people on here that are in "sales" are cold-calling people, or work in a retail store where they earn commissions on physical items they get idiots to buy. Tech sales where you have to actually know your product is a great field, because you have to be a cool nerd who can also have fun as sales positions tend to require. And you're selling your services to other companies instead of some idiot stay-at-home mom who is bored with her husband's money.

EDIT: Didn't see that your comment was in response to this thread, so not as relevant, I took this out of context. I guess the real answer is it isn't ironic, that's how capitalism works, hence why this antiquated idea of sales is pretty dead in our day and age.

[–]MrRoxo-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy

Are there other places to buy cars? I'm guessing you're an American, Americans have places to buy cars online?

[–]RaughKee0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

No, car dealerships are so built into the legislation (mostly at the state level) that it is almost impossible to sell cars through any other mechanism.

[–]MrRoxo0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Why did the other guy seem so surprised people buy car from dealers then?

[–]RaughKee0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I don't know, he's from Europe, he's 15 and never bought a car...

Just Google "car dealership legislation us"

[–]MrRoxo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm European and we still have car stands. Must've hit his head somewhere

[–]Blu_Haze0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

It's a default reaction to say "I'm just looking". But I know my inventory so I'll ask "were you thinking car truck or suv?"

Yeah I know your inventory too. It's on the website that I already brought up on my phone. Now leave me the fuck alone and let me look around.

Thirsty salesmen like you are why I don't even get out of my car anymore unless I actually see something I like.

[–]NoJobs2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Its also the reason I go look at the car on a Sunday so I don't have to deal with the shit bag sales guy. Half the time the car isn't even there when you go and they use it as a bait and switch

[–]RavenDothKnow-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy


Oh please, if you really wouldn't give a fuck about hooking up you wouldn't be on a forum discussing the best tactics.

[–]caP1taL1sm0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Do I give a fuck in general? Yes, I want to get the most out of life and experience everything there is, including the opposite sex.

Do I give a fuck in each individual circumstance? No, because I already have a girl who would do anything for me and I trust so I don't need new ones badly enough where I'm in used car salesman mode of "never take no for an answer"

[–]ReadyPlayer1513 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

The English test one is something found from iFunny, but otherwise a good post

[–]dinnerwithfunions25 points26 points  (3 children) | Copy

Even if she has a boyfriend there's no need to posture and pose with some cocky line to get her interest. If a chick actually wants to fuck/hook up and you're a hot dude she's not gonna bring the BF up for fear of looking like a slut. She'll then quickly dump his ass and shuffle him into the abyss from your reality with her to avoid a negative impression of her. She'll hardly ever bring him up, what's the point? She's got a new guy who's way better. Do you still play Madden 97 on N64? How often do you think about playing Madden 97 when you're playing Madden 2018 with a headset talking shit to some incel russian while you whoop his ass and show him who's chad?

The "I have a BF line" means she's simply not interested. Yeah if you persist maybe you can change her mind but you can also get kicked out of a venue and have your night ruined for harassing a customer who doesn't wanna smell your beer breath while you hover around her like a horny hyena.

Bothering to persist past "I have a boyfriend" in the context of a 2 minute conversation in a club is putting her on a pedestal. There's always gonna be plenty of decent/hot chicks in a quality venue to game. If she actually gives a fuck about the dude, she's not gonna fuck you unless you're a better catch (good luck, hot women don't settle for average dudes) and she can determine in some way you're not just some saturday night special that's not worth it in the long run or she won't regret the next morning.

As a guy who has fucked a few girls with boyfriends and been cheated on.. All women who I would classify as "LTR potential" (if you train them right).. (LTR potential meaning she has basic domestic skills learned from her mother/grandmother and comes from a good functional family, doesn't have extreme mental neuroses).. it's almost always due to them being sick of their boyfriend being a beta pussy in all avenues of life. I have personal data acquired from real life situations to back this up.

Don't waste your time with chicks that dish out the "I have a boyfriend line" it means

1.Get the fuck away from me.

  1. I have a boyfriend.

  2. You're cool to talk to I'm just letting you know I have a boyfriend so you get that this is platonic right now and I'm not leading you on.

  3. My boyfriend is an amateur UFC fighter and can probably turn you into a pretzel this is for your own good.

Why alpha-posture and ruin your night with a drink splashed in your face, getting told to leave by security, or getting beat up by an aggro bigger dude when you can move on to the 30 other girls in the venue who may want to actually hook up/date you.. Or just kick it with your homies and get buzzed and have a good night fuck all deez ho's.

[–]1empatheticapathetic6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

I just have to ask, how hot are you? If you pass a threshold then sure you don’t need to worry about this, you have your abundance. But this is the type of shit I get 100% of the time, regardless of whether they have a partner or not.

It’s a shit test for a reason and passing it is an opportunity for her to gain attraction to you.

Perhaps for someone else it’s a standard of girl they haven’t hit before and this shit test is necessary barrier they have to pass through.

You may not care, that’s just your perspective.

[–]dinnerwithfunions0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Most girls have told be I’m around a 7-8 out of 10 in looks. I’m 5’8”. If I’m on point and in the mood I can usually flirt with relative ease but my game isn’t great. I’m not super social and don’t really care to be. LTRs are kinda rare for me but I’m also in no place in my life to be in one.

Idk man. I’m all for doing the best you can do but I imagine it’s probably really annoying to keep getting rejected by the same girls in that tier of hotness. Might be a sign you’re just “not in that league “.

[–]buzzjive 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Jesus christ...this isn't always a shit test. Truth is she may not be available or she might not like you. That's okay. There's are plenty of fish in the sea.

Stop thinking there's some magic thing you can say or do that will get you the women you want. Just because you are attracted to them doesn't mean they have to return the favor.

Pursuing a woman that does not want to be pursued makes you a needy creeper and there's nothing to be gained from it.

If she tells you she has a bf just cut your losses and move on. It will turn out far better in the long run.

[–]Rapante1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You're right, it's not always a shit test, but many times it is. "Just cut your losses and move on" is akin to fucking off anytime there is even a hint of rejection. This is not how most guys get laid.

[–]Marino4K1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed. It’s a hard next when a chick tells me IHABF, plenty of other ladies

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

It just shows that women are selfish whores.

[–]DogeMcDogeyDoge3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

I made a flirty/joke comment toward a girl when I was out one time, she laughed. I seen her recording the band on snapchat, so a few minutes later I come up to her and say "I have to go now, is it alright if I get your snapchat?" she said "I have a boyfriend", I said "oh, ok" in a manner which it didn't even phase me (because it didn't), but then she says "but I'll give you it anyway". I'm thinking she gave me a chance because I didn't seem butthurt over her saying that. I thought I seen this girl comment on the event page earlier, so I looked back and I seen her profile, it said "single". I knew it was bullshit, because why would she give out her details to guys who hit on her if she had a boyfriend? I left, and then 20 min later I sent her a chat saying "So you were saying I'm your boyfriend already? Hold up, I don't move that fast." she said "haha smooth". I said the next morning "As usual ;). It sucks I had to leave early, did they play [insert song here] after I left? That's a good one." It said "typing" but she didn't end up sending a message. I don't think I built up enough rapport, or demonstrated enough value for her to take me seriously. She was at least an 8.5 or 9, she probably has enough charming motherfuckers on her tail just as attractive as I am. I'm guessing that fell under the category of "you've met my standard of attractiveness to give you my details without too much effort, but you haven't demonstrated enough value in other areas yet".

[–]1dongpal2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

because you didnt steer the conversation in a way she wanted

[–]DogeMcDogeyDoge0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

What way should that have been?

[–]1dongpal2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

one where it shows you arent afraid to engage sexually. you've choosen a very safe route, with low reward.

[–]anabolic923 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Didn't manage to lay, but was doing pretty a lot of Kino with this girl, tried to kiss her and turned her face.

She dropped the "If I kiss you I will feel like shit tomorrow when I talk to my BF", even though I am sure his BF would not be happy of how I was rubbing her thigs, pulling her shirt up...

I didn't even answer, kept the kino, but distanced myself a bit.

At the end of the date told me to close my eyes and started kissing me.

[–]slothsenpai7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Or maybe she does actually have a bf. Not every girl has loose sexual morals bro

[–]Do-it-for-you6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

His point is that even if it’s true, doesn’t matter.

If she doesn’t mind cheating and she’s into you, she’ll cheat on him with you.
If she does mind cheating or she’s not into you, nothing will happen.

If she throws that line, it doesn’t mean you can’t get with her.

[–]r99nate 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Don’t listen to this piece of shit. Never be the other dude it’s just not an ok thing to do

[–]187oddfuture1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Thing is there’s always gonna be another dude, it happened to a lot of us and that’s why we’re here. It’s the consequence of unchecked hypergamy. If she’s making it that easy, it might as well be you.

[–]r99nate-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy

It doesn’t mean it’s not a complete dick move

[–]modTheRedPike[M] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

It doesn't mean TRP debates morality. I'll give you a pass on this one. It's ok to have a moral system. I have one. We aren't here to discuss it.

... can't promise another mod wont' nuke.

[–]Wolfoflulzstreet2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’ve heard this before.

I took it as: “I like everything you’ve done here and you’ve passed every shit test. Now let’s level it up. How bad do you want it”

It’s the shit test on steroids. Do you show her ethical standards or do you crush through her smokescreen and take what you want? She’s already decided that she is going to sleep with you. How to proceed.

[–]mhdfasim2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

She : “ I have a boyfriend” Me: “I also have a boyfriend” She : giggles and laugh

This is how I overcome that shit test and it works all the fucking time. With that response you have effectively unarmed her of her bitch- shield.

[–]askmrcia2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I use this line too. Even if she really does it makes the interaction more friendly and not awkward.

[–]5JS1XBG64A5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I got hit with this one a few times last weekend. Surprisingly, that was the first time I've ever had to deal with it. I knew how to pass it, but my delivery wasn't too good. It almost went well with one of the girls, but I think I failed by still being a little to agressive/moving a bit too quickly.

All in all it was a learning experience and I'll be better prepared for next time.

[–]ECoast_Man5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

Biggest shit test going. I usually just go with the old reliables:

I have a boyfriend

Do you? (with appropriate level of half-smile smirk)


I have a boyfriend

Is that right? (with appropriate level of half-smile smirk)

Use either of those, and just move on. I use those two lines for pretty much everything though.

We aren't having sex tonight

Is that right? (appropriate level of half smile smirk)

I don't like to overcomplicate things. Employ KISS.

[–]showerdudes9 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

95% of you in here doing these "half smile smirks" probably think you look like mysterious movie stars doing them when in reality you look like fucking retards

[–]Endorsed ContributorDownvoteToDisagree0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What? It's amused mastery 101. The purpose is to act like it's a borderline joke to keep the hampster spinning over what you're really thinking. Not that hard to pull off.

[–]BoJvck34Empire1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Woahhh slow down, who said I was hitting on you" lol golden

[–]p0da41 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

For me, there is just one right answer: "Ok, but boyfriend is not a disease, right?"

Edit: for sure, you have to apply others rules after that line too, like ignore it, chance subject and so on. You have to said that and move on.

Works most of the times.

[–]Pepe_Cosby1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well you look like the kind of girl who can use two. Johnny Bravo never fails you.

[–]red_matrix1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If a girl says she has a boyfriend just assume she's poly and it's normal. Lol. Girls will do anything to justify their own shitty behavior. Polyamory is on the rise thanks to this, and all those beta fucks are to thank.

[–]__ROOSTER__1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

actually "I'm married" with a flourish of the ring is a bigger shit test, but ok

[–]PerplexingPegasus_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Had a friend who asked a girl during a rave if his buddy can suck on her breast (just for shits, didn’t care on the outcome) and she responded with the IHAB line.

We all just looked at her with a skeptical look on our faces and she proceeded to change the convo. You can either use OP’s method depending on how you want to game or silence as a power move for them to realize how futile the line is.

[–]sdives1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I wouldn't mind hearing more stories on how some guys heard the Bf line yet keep proceeding anyways. Assuming she was single and not actually taken.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

This post is basically "How to piss a girl off" 101. If she shows that she's not interested don't double down and definitely don't use any of those responses.

[–]askmrcia0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I agree. The biggest part that he is leaving out is body language and tone in which she said it. You can tell if she's full of it if she's giggling and flirting with you while she said it.

But if she looks serious then she is saying that as either she really does have one or take it as a sign that she's not interested

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Damn I wish I read this last month. I failed this shit test. I didn’t know how to pass it then.

[–]NYdude921 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Excellent. When is the wedding?"

OOF. I'm taking that one.

[–]naIamgood1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Got that "I have a boyfriend line" in a different manner like oh "my Boyfriend graduated" out of no where when I was not even hitting on her just having a normal conversation during my tea break. Looked that bitch damn straight in the eye with the WTF look. Silence for two minutes and then SHE changed the topic. All those lines sound pathetic.

Just to add on, if she gives you the boyfriend line and you were interested in her simply move the fuck on to a different girl. It is not worth it to pursue her and you will be having better returns with your time with Single girls or even girls with BF who does not mention this line.

[–]wiffofass 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

I like this response but you can even make it better: "Relax, I'm not even hitting on you.... If I was hitting on you I would put my hand here and I would...etc"

[–]hiddenpleasures1230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Strong "Nope!" Reading materials here.

If you actively hit on a woman/ make a move and she says "I have a boyfriend/husband/cat" you walk the fuck away. It's a rejection. Otherwise you are an orbiter. Ignoring it does NOT give you more value than her boyfriend. It shows you being competitive for her attention. It's not a shit test, guys. It's a rejection.

If a girl IS interested and is taken, she will subtly tell you in a middle of a conversation. She may even tell you she does and is interested anyway.

She will also just not mention it.(this is most of the cases)


The IHABF is NOT a shit test. Anyone who claims that it is a shit test and "I fucked her" is lying. Do not listen to these individuals. If you get the IHABF, tell her "lucky guy" "well, I'm sure you're really into him". Be humble when you get rejected, because you never know when she may be single and looking for a rebound relationship. She's going to remember the guy who shrugged her off, not the creep who kept hitting on her.

[–]harumin24 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

A woman is either telling the truth, or is using it to get out of an uncomfortable situation with an aggressive shit head like you. Why? Because saying "I'm not interested" is more likely to make a stranger angry, and you disgusting sexists have more respect for a man's """property""" than a woman's independent choices.

So if a woman says she has a boyfriend, please kindly fuck off.

[–]CreatedItJust2Saythi-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think you are getting it a bit wrong…

If 'as your SMV rises, in response, the volume of IHABF you receive will drop significantly', then Chad receives zero IHABF's.

and so the very fact of receiving an IHABF already means you are not Chad enough to her.

When she gives you an IHABF it's not a test for verifying whether you are Chad or not; she gives Chad zero IHABF's, so the moment you get her IHABF she's saying to you: 'you are not Chad. We might even have sex if you grovel hard enough so you see I'm not an evil, but a kind hearted girl. But you are not Chad.'

Once you get her IHABF, she's closing her AF sex door to yourself, so only her BB sex door might remain for you. So when she gives you her IHABF she might be meaning two things:

1- Her life is still in its AF stage; if you want to have sex with her, you must wait like a nice guy until her life reaches her BB stage.

2- Her life is already in its BB stage (there is an AF stage in her past); be warned.

I'm not saying you should feel bad if she says you are not Chad; her opinion is irrelevant to you (it should be). You only have to be Chad to yourself (frame). I'm just saying that since you are Chad, then you have options, as well as abundance mentality, and these two things should be part of your frame.

Remember she's just an inferior honorless groveling unaesthetic piece of fuckmeat for Chad, which is good news for you even if you are not Chad, since:

a) If you are Chad, then she'll be an inferior honorless groveling unaesthetic piece of fuckmeat for you. (Her interest in you motivates your interest in her; you don't want her body or her vagina, you want her interest in yourself, her dependence on yourself; that's the only moving thing to your self-sufficient male superiority, and the only sexual interest of your male superiority).

b) If you are not Chad, then she won't be an inferior honorless groveling unaesthetic piece of fuckmeat for you, that is, she won't be sexually appealing or interesting to you, which is good news for you as well, since that will leave her out of the erotic scope of your self-sufficient male superiority and Chadness regarding women. (Her lack of interest in you makes her sexually unappealing to yourself, and her sex appeal is her only interesting attribute to your male superiority and Chadness).

[–]RaughKee-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I guess it depends on the venue and quantity of other fish in the sea, but why would you waste your time with a woman who is politely hinting that she isn't interested. Move on to one who is, it's more efficient in the end.

[–]kingbraderz 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Being in a ltr this is what is shitty about ur girl ever going out people who don’t respect that even if it’s a lie your maybe fucking over a fellow brother then again maybe your saving him but unless he is able to find out so he can end it your just fucking over a brother

[–]RogerNorvell 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy


To put it succinctly, one man's mission to get laid does not yield to another man's "feelz" about who said man should or should not bang, and for whatever supposed moral reason the Bro-Knight wants to trumpet. If some guy comes along and seduces another man's wife into his bed, that's the husband's fucking problem. Not the seducer's.

If a married woman has no moral compunction about stepping out on her husband, then the man she sleeps with is not burdened with moral compunction either. He is not obligated to tell a man that his wife is a cheating whore. He is not obligated by some "bro-code" to turn down a woman's advances because some other fucking idiot was dumb enough to put a $10k ring on her finger.

To blast it into the thick fucking skulls of some of the newbs around here, sexual strategy is amoral.

[–]kingbraderz 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

I wholeheartedly agree with this yet at the same time I’d hope men would stick together to some degree especially if it means taking years to find out your sucking another mans dick I guess this could all go back to you for not being able to figure it out but some woman are sneaky snakes I was with one at one period and never would have found out had I not decided to check their Facebook but I guess this is the risk you take on being in a relationship in the first place. Imagine if you will one of your best friends slamming your gf behind your back have we really no standards is it truly better to be all alone and trust no one? Sounds like a dark world we don’t need to live in then again you could say that’s the reality of it all regardless it’s all dark

[–]RogerNorvell 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

You have to go over the rules before posting anymore.

Concern Troll: Someone who posts to an internet forum or newsgroup, claiming to share its goals while deliberately working against those goals, typically, by claiming "concern" about group plans to engage in productive activity, urging members instead to attempt some activity that would damage the group's credibility, or alternatively to give up on group projects entirely.

[–]Lambdal7-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The responses are really corny and will only decrease her attraction.

The only one that really works is "Are you madly in love?" There, you'll quickly be able to see if she is or not and if there is a point of keeing going or not. It's also an honest response and not corny or reactive like the examples given.

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