FDS illustrates one of the many reasons men aren't thrilled about high n-count women

akihonj · 2020-05-19T11:29:51+00:00

They are to my kind a joke, hypocrisy be thy name to be honest.

I've seen posts on there about how their body count doesn't matter, that disclosing when asked shows that the man they are with is actually low value, and in the very same breath they state that they have a right to know that man's count.

So I can only imagine the scene, a man and woman sat at a table and she asks how many he's slept with and he gives a conservative number then asks her and gets told that's none of his business.

And I wonder how many men would ask her out for a second date, just stop and think about how that conversation would go. Any man with a functional brain is going down two roads either her count is so high she's a disgrace or she's a narcissistic cretin who plays power games.

Of course the conversation can go the other way too, where he asks and gets told maybe in a polite way that it's none of his business, when she asks he then replies the same.

Going off that sub she then judges him as low value, herself as high value, when in truth she opened the can of worms.

RimbaudsRevenge · 2020-05-19T10:24:13+00:00

This is actually a legitimate problem for all people, where it's absolutely not gendered in one way or the other. Women neither likes it to get into a relationship with a man who's been psychologically damaged from a previous relationship, which I absolutely understand. On the contrary, that's a very common complaint "The man who never got over being burned by his first love" often packed with very sarcastic thinly veiled "Please man up already (for her convenience)"-messages. The answer is very simple, ask a bit about persons past relationship, and if it seems like there's trauma and mess, just don't date. Be a big boy or girl and select wisely.

I've voiced that opinion that that's the way (as a man or woman) and I was ofc accused of being tremendously unsympathetic. However, it's not liberal to assume that anyyone should be morally obligated to be patient with this type of thing, work to create intimacy with extreme trepidation and at a snails pace just because there's been tons past hurt you're not actually responsible for. Though that is a wonderful thing indeed if somebody succeeds, it just can't be expected. We all have enough general life issues to deal with that it's unlikely there's that much room to pile on someone else's problems to our own.

2020-05-19T11:03:43+00:00

The more “experience” a woman has (read: higher-n count) — the more jaded, empty, bitter, cynical, skeptical and emotionally broken a woman will be.

Not to mention, higher body count increases the likelihood of infidelity

anonymous_9999999 · 2020-05-19T09:54:06+00:00

Yep you nailed it. No Man ever should have to compromise his happiness for other’s dumb decisions.

Meydra · 2020-05-19T09:44:56+00:00

Agreed, you feel doubly shafted as a good guy, since she won't even appreciate you for it since you are doing "just the bare minimum", even though all the guys she fucked before didn't do any of that.

crookedsummer2019 · 2020-05-19T11:16:50+00:00

I don’t read FDS, but everything you described is TRP. I guess these really are parallel trains of thought.

It’s a valid question that applies to both genders.

AbyssinianLion · 2020-05-19T11:19:51+00:00

Not to mention they carry a shit ton of STDs and baggage, from their days dating these so called assholes. Back when I wasnt a hermit and was actually dating, there were so many women I knew who were trying to normalise their STDs or make it seem cool to have an STD. Youd think with women being the gender that has more of a disgust impulse, most women would be against casual sex and having too many partner's.

MirrorThaoss · 2020-05-19T09:55:00+00:00

Again virtue is in the middle, I take the risk of saying something ridiculously obvious, but :

As a guy, if the fact that a woman doesn't want to be a simp and used anymore bothers you, you have a problem or are an asshole.

As a woman, if you have been a simp and now want men to be simps for you as a revenge instead of doing what you wished your asshole boyfriend did, you are petty for that revenge desire.

(I did it though, said the obvious, sorry)

About the post : OP, I'm not certain that most FDS women are in this "I want a simp and I'll be selfish and don't care about his needs" revenge scenario. I think you made an assumption that has to be thought about.

cateml · 2020-05-19T11:28:40+00:00

It's especially common to talk about how they used to be really nice and giving, but were in a relationship with an asshole who didn't reciprocate/didn't care, so now they don't do that anymore. Great, good for her. Except what does this mean for a new man entering this woman's life? It means he'll get someone who is now selfish, high maintenance, and emotionally closed off.

And maybe because of this they will miss out on a connection with a new guy who they could have actually been happy with.

Its almost like purposefully expunging every recognition of non-transactional interaction with the opposite sex from your thinking is a bad idea.

accounthrowaway123 · 2020-05-19T10:25:48+00:00

Tbh I think the problem there is from women who've cared too much in the past and are aware they will care to much in the future.

If you have a better vetting process you will filter out men who will take advantage of you. Personally I am a very sensitive person and very affectionate to the people in my life but at the beginning stages of dating am a grade a bitch. So most men don't stick around. And those who do are usually kind and mild mannered. That way even if am 100% vulnerable and clingy he won't be the one to take advantage.

My bf is constantly surprised at how different I am from the initial impression. And am super glad I did have s strong vetting process otherwise I would have a douchebag obsessed about n counts and submissiveness and femininity ( while at the same time looking for a younger, prettier, woman)

AttachableSheep · 2020-05-19T11:06:02+00:00

I agree. I'd rather have an honest relationship, good communication, and generally feel equal and comfortable in it, than date someone to whom I'll have to prove myself constantly to get past all the layers and test they'll put me through. Basically, bad experiences make people jaded, and I don't want to deal with someone that assumes the worst for me from the start.

mandoa_sky · 2020-05-19T10:06:44+00:00

well by that logic, why should women date men with high n-counts / relationship histories as well?

misiepatysie · 2020-05-19T10:41:19+00:00

FDS are as eveil and bad as RP. I'd never date neither of them.

nemma88 · 2020-05-19T11:17:03+00:00

What has the post body got to do with n-count other than it's over 1?

There's a leap in logic here I'm just not getting.

lilastr · 2020-05-19T10:20:37+00:00

If it’s only on the emotional side, I agree. But I feel like men are more likely to have other agendas against women with high n count such as “her ex boyfriend’s sperm dna is still inside of her and she’s used up” etc.

_cheeky_bastard_ · 2020-05-19T09:51:49+00:00

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Pola_Lita · 2020-05-19T09:57:14+00:00

Disagree strongly. The first thing a person (male or female) does after a negative experience is react. That includes angry feelings, being quick to blame, being suspicious of bad intentions, etc. Time is needed to work through hurt. Once that's done though, most people come out ahead, having learned about people being human, knowing more about what to look for, having a better appreciation of those who are kind and generous, thoughtful, etc. It's a fairly rare person who doesn't improve with experience.

This line of logic seems to be more of a reach to control women's sexuality than anything else. Why direct this question at women only? FDS only? There's men and there's TRP.

sandal_on · 2020-05-19T10:40:59+00:00

Again, no one, literally no one, at FDS even remotely implied selfishness, high maintenance, emotionally distant.

That is your projection onto them to have a reason, one not based on reality, to make them look bad and justify channeling your negativity at them.

Since I won't take fiction designed intentionally to make a group look bad as basis for serious discussion, I'll turn it on you.

Why does it bother you, to the extent to create anything but reality based, about a group of women that have decided to stand up for themselves and filter out anyone unworthy of their time and well being?

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2020-05-19T11:41:18+00:00

I guess i am a little confused on why this sub keeps picking at FDS. I’ve seen some things like that, but most of what I’ve read it’s been to not sleep around, take care of your mental and physical health, and to pick carefully so that you will eventually attract a high value man, which aligns with the red pill’s philosophy of high value women.

It just seems like a random sub to keep drawing attention to- unless there’s a historical feud between the two that i’m unaware of.

Mrs_Drgree · 2020-05-19T11:54:37+00:00

No rants

Title	FDS illustrates one of the many reasons men aren't thrilled about high n-count women
Author	SlashCo80
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Date	May 19, 2020 9:37 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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