Don't men here want love, want physical (emotional) contact and intimacy?

Mrs_Drgree · 2020-06-11T10:24:25+00:00

No internal questions

retal1ator · 2020-06-11T06:44:39+00:00

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Mrs_Drgree · 2020-06-11T06:11:16+00:00

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Guarnerre1995 · 2020-06-11T07:52:57+00:00

Yes I would want a relationship, one sex partner, a best friend and all that lovy dovy things.

But.

I dont want to waste time knowing someone and eventually going in a relationship just to break up months later. This has something to do with my generation and the fast way of living life. No time for certain things.

Having said that, most men just want to explore, so that when they settle down with a former promiscuous woman, they dont feel that FOMO.

Zippo-Cat · 2020-06-11T05:46:03+00:00

Yeah that's not what Alpha means.

jax006 · 2020-06-11T05:49:16+00:00

I'm not sure what your asking;

The Alpha Fux guy can get all that if he wants it at any particular time with much less effort and with a higher quality girl than the beta bux guy.

Also a part of the envy is because beta bux guys oftentimes didn't get alot of experience dating and having sex when they were younger.

YetAnotherCommenter · 2020-06-11T07:26:05+00:00

Don't men here want love, want physical (emotional) contact and intimacy?

They absolutely do. But part of this is being seen as sexually attractive and being wanted on that primal, lusty level.

The idea that men "split" "sex" from "tender feelings" is actually wrong. Men see sex as evidence of tender feelings. That's how these tender feelings are conveyed.

Awokeeleven · 2020-06-11T06:27:29+00:00

The problem for me is the natural process women go through in a relationship to take control slowly and demand more. Also the obvious, women’s respect levels drops dramatically over time. I guess my “fragile ego” can’t take that and I rather have plates. I also would argue for the horrible “queen - entitlement” many women in my generation lives on today that I just generelly see as a big turn off and bad investment on my part.

ComplexProjection · 2020-06-11T08:07:47+00:00

AF, BB is not about having lots of ONS and no LTR. If you are alpha, you can indeed not invest in LTR and just get ONS, but it is ultimately your choice, not what TRP recommends.

What AF,BB really means is that women value the alpha for his attractiveness, while they value the beta for his resources. So women will want to have sex with an alpha because he is hot, and they will have sex with a beta just enough to secure his resources.

Pastelitomaracucho · 2020-06-11T06:03:42+00:00

Sure we want to. That is far more satisfying that mindless casual sex.

But just because we want the rosy picture, it doesn't mean we aren't going to have a jab at a vapid Instagram Becky given the chance.

It's not a zero sum game, we want BOTH things and we tend to raise our bar much higher when it comes to risking our sexual freedom, our finances and our mental stability for a potential trainwreck of a relationship.

disayle32 · 2020-06-11T06:02:21+00:00

It's become abundantly clear to me that women just don't care about what men want.

WhoAmIEven2 · 2020-06-11T05:47:28+00:00

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beyond98 · 2020-06-11T06:58:19+00:00

I want them also. If I get sex, it's cool, but it would be great to have a partner and having a strong emotional connection with her

NICHIJOU2411 · 2020-06-11T08:25:11+00:00

That’s honestly all I want.

flyinghorse1 · 2020-06-11T09:32:14+00:00

Just remember this sub is just a very small fraction of the population who over theorise dating and try to dumb male dating dynamics down to 2 personality types. Take it all with a pinch of salt.

jacemano · 2020-06-11T07:10:10+00:00

Usually a woman who's willing to sleep with a guy will do all those other things too. So it's not really an either or.

Guys right at the top of the totempole literally get commitment off multiple women who will do all of this with them knowing that they can't even secure commitment.

I will always say this, worry about being attractive, the rest will take care of itself.

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SeemedGood · 2020-06-11T07:17:05+00:00

Of course we do, and you have a much better chance of being in a mutually loving relationship if you’re coming into it from the AF position than if you are from the BB position.

2020-06-11T07:35:08+00:00

Yes I like those things too, a lot. In fact I enjoy them more than sex.

However, to my eyes LTRs are not really a viable option in this day and age so I take what I can get.

Khaba-rovsk · 2020-06-11T08:42:53+00:00

Most of the pill are total BS and more young adults (mainly boys) we are trying to fit in and belong to some groups and finding these that both offer explinations and solutions to the problems they have.

Too bad for them its all mostly BS and they just need to grow up a bit more.

carlsberg24 · 2020-06-11T08:56:26+00:00

I don't think that men generally want "just sex" unless they have an abundance of choice. That's a small minority of men. The alpha aspect that men want is genuine attraction from women rather than being a calculated choice. So they actually care about what women feel.

retal1ator · 2020-06-11T09:14:56+00:00

Yes, that is what I and most other men desire. Intimacy, cuddles, love, affection, etc...

On the other hands, men who pump and dump do so mostly for the ego rush and to feel powerful and desired. The times I've been single and desired by women, seeing them sexually desire me, made me feel so empowered and special.

krmaml · 2020-06-11T09:29:14+00:00

The intimacy can also be expereinced in short term flings. Attractive, Alpha men can enjoy this intimacy with multiple women very easily. Ordinary men have to do the drill for just one

wizard_down_there · 2020-06-11T09:39:02+00:00

Yeah but women only provide this type of care to men that she likes to fuck. If you're not attractive you'll never be good in bed for her and she'll see you like every other schmuck out there

Jou-Joestar · 2020-06-11T09:46:33+00:00

Most LTRs are not worth it because most people in general have problems. Men do want love and intimacy, but they have to vent women to a high standard. In the meantime, the men you’re talking about are either not having sex or having casual sex.

Wrasserman · 2020-06-11T09:53:51+00:00

Some men do some men don't.

A lot of guys would rather avoid the hoops of having sex in the LTR or deal with the relationship dynamics changing over time as they always do.

Also I don't get this Hollywood definition of emotional connection, a man can have emotional connection with anyone they don't have to be his lover or even female.

Some people seek validation through sex some through LTRs.

Derp014 · 2020-06-11T10:02:21+00:00

I do. What I want from a relationship is a sense of fulfillment and companionship, not an endless cum session.

2020-06-11T10:17:37+00:00

I do, but I've come to the conclusion through my life experiences that most women don't. I think they like the idea of and tell themselves they want it, but I've met few women who don't seem to curate "relationships" that were obviously never going to be more than a glorified FWB. Perhaps it's ignorance or a lack of willingness to take control of their dating life or perhaps women really do prefer to just hop between STRs and have the occassional ONS.

CosmicBioHazard · 2020-06-11T10:21:36+00:00

My Ex-wife despite being horny all the time would not kiss, hardly at all and honestly, if I somehow meet someone else and she doesn't smother me in kisses I'm not wasting an N+1 on her.

Seriously compared to getting kissed up and down sex is so non-stimulating that I hardly care for it. Maybe sex is only any good if you're kissing at the same time, I don't know.

RileysRevenge · 2020-06-11T08:06:00+00:00

As long as Divorce Corp is indiscriminately giving women half of a man’s belongings, I won’t be getting married.

Most women, no matter how progressive, want marriage out of their life partner.

This puts an inherent limit on any relationship I have because it’s only a matter of time- usually a year or so before they grow frustrated and give up.

Thing is, I’m completely honest from the get-go about what I want. I wouldn’t mind one day having a life partner or even living with a woman. Kids aren’t off the table, but I’m not getting married.

So yes, I would love to have the Disney fantasy married life that society sells to people as girls and boys, but it doesn’t really exist. Marriage equality doesn’t currently exist. So, I date and get physical and emotional intimacy knowing it will have a limit. Then I have a period of time alone. Then meet someone else.

I’ve just accepted thats how life is and come to enjoy it very much.

staypositivebrad · 2020-06-11T08:22:47+00:00

We do, we just recognize that women don't actually want any of that from us because women hate weakness and emotions are weakness.

Not having unlimited access to pussy.

That's what red pill is trying to do, basically have their cake to look at and eat it too, since society is geared towards letting women do that.

taapy234 · 2020-06-11T08:39:00+00:00

For most men, sex is the only outlet where they can get physical contact and intimacy and have that small window of time to be slightly less masculine and vulnerable.

Beyond that period, women won't tolerate anything less of 100% masculinity. sure, when you ask these questions to their face, they will bullshit you with meandering lies and coddling to keep you placated, but remember... attraction is not a choice.

Since its really hard for them to find photogenic men who have model tier looks, they tend to prefer men with the "whole package" if chad doesn't text her. And to be the "whole package" they expect the men to be 100% masculine first and foremost. And if you as a man don't have good genetics going, then you are proper fucked if you aren't on guard and be stoic and keep your true feelings to yourself if she chooses you. She's going to hold that vulnerability against you in future arguments. And if you don't live up to her expectations, she's going to pussy whip you.

Its a tale as old as time. You start to listen to women who claim they want "sensitive man" and you try to be sensitive, and they immediately GTFO and make fun of you behind your back in her friends circle for being such a wuss.

Being redpilled helps a man because he won't be blindsided by women anymore.

Cobra_x30 · 2020-06-11T06:05:03+00:00

Yes, Yes... What you say is true but it kind of misses the point.

Sure, your lady love is laying there and taking your attentions kindly. Most likely when her eyes are closed and the lights are down low... she is thinking of me... not you. When she touches herself after your all done and actually hits the big O... she is still thinking of me. When she hugs you, it isn't really you she is hugging, when she kisses you, it isn't really you she is kissing.

However, when she goes to the bank, that sure the fuck is your check she is cashing.

Do you understand? Or are you just going to continue on like some teen romance twat?

LotBuilder · 2020-06-11T06:56:50+00:00

I prefer a series of short term relationships where you get the very best effort they have, all the “new partner” passion with a comfort level and then as soon as it starts feeling too comfortable I’m on to the next one. That time may be three months or it may be a year... you just know when the relationship has peaked. Usually when she will have hairy legs and not GAF.

Long term “comfort” is overrated. I had two 3 year relationships and a 16 year marriage... my current relationship style is much better.

VasiliyZaitzev · 2020-06-11T07:34:53+00:00

what I miss most about not being in a relationship are all the hugs, casual kisses, holding each other while watching TV in the sofa, sneaking up on your girlfriend when she cooks and hugging her from behind, asking her how her day has been and such. That's what I miss the most.

So what ended your last relationship? All that "Billy Beta" stuff put her feet to sleep?

LotBuilder · 2020-06-11T06:56:44+00:00

I prefer a series of short term relationships where you get the very best effort they have, all the “new partner” passion with a comfort level and then as soon as it starts feeling too comfortable I’m on to the next one. That time may be three months or it may be a year... you just know when the relationship has peaked. Usually when she will have hairy legs and not GAF.

Long term “comfort” is overrated. I had two 3 year relationships and a 16 year marriage... my current relationship style is much better.

Title	Don't men here want love, want physical (emotional) contact and intimacy?
Author	WhoAmIEven2
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Date	June 11, 2020 5:37 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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