[Question] How would you define a Low Value Female

NahDukeFkThat · 2021-01-06T15:34:13+00:00

This is how easy women have it.

1) Remain fit and attractive (takes little to no effort to avoid trash eating habits)

2) Be submissive (again, requires no effort)

3) Don't be a foul slut (literally the easiest thing in the entire world)

rebuildingMyself · 2021-01-06T16:02:56+00:00

If I were to summarize the traits it would be that she "consumes far more than she produces".

All her "hobbies" involve consumption of media, gossip, etc. while leaving behind nothing (eg an artist leaves behind a painting while working on his hobby, even if it's shit). She becomes an expert in mindless crap like which soap opera actress is banging which actor this week.

The obvious traits like promiscuity factor in, which is just "consuming" Chad cock instead of "producing" meaningful relationships. Should she be in a relationship, she does the bare minimum (ie consuming the benefits while doing little to add anything back).

Dating a low value female involves what you can do for her while she sits there demanding attention and entertainment. As soon as you exit her short attention span, she Briffault's Laws her way to the next shiny object.

Coolrubbings · 2021-01-06T15:53:05+00:00

Like someone else said, looks.

95% of women’s value is determined solely on how they look.

Take a woman who does drugs, has a low IQ, failed her education, is lazy and lives with her parents.

If she’s even average looking, then most men don’t give a single fuck about all those things, they’d still fuck her, and some would even marry her.

Lightways434 · 2021-01-06T16:37:40+00:00

Is a feminist, SJW, lacks family values, addicted to social media attention, lacks boundaries with men, has no interesting hobbies, and eats like shit

darkstar1031 · 2021-01-06T16:30:36+00:00

Drug use.
Alcohol abuse.
Cigarettes
Weakness.
Immaturity.
Anti-intellectualism.
Dishonesty.
Propaganda.
Politics.
The inability to maintain gainful employment.
Gold digging
Children
Living in a squalid, disgusting house that clearly hasn't been cleaned since the Bush administration.
Bad Hygiene.
Meth-mouth.
Fundamentalism.

RatingsOutOfTen · 2021-01-06T16:35:04+00:00

1. Overweight or Won't Exercise. Extra low value if she is proud of this, unless she's willing to date an overweight man. Most fat women aren't willing to. Most fat women, are actually some of the most entitled because they think they "had it so hard". Fat women are often a bit more nutty as well. They usually have some kind of strange doublethink attitude about their size where they are ashamed and embarrassed by being so fat, but also they are very active sexually because they want to mash down any internal self criticism of their bodies by "proving" their worth by putting herself on the sexual market for next to nothing, or by dressing slutty and then getting angry when men notice or approach her or something. I even kind of like fat women's bodies sometimes, but they are almost never worth the time.

2. Is an "artist" or a "writer". There are obviously exceptions to this. One thing I can't stand is the lie of a person being a "starving artist" when really they just have no job and post bad art online everyday so that other "artists" give it a "like", especially if it is practically just smut writing, or pornographic painting that isn't anything but genital stimulation for the "artist". I'm not putting down art, or even nude art, but there are a lot of loser artists out there. It's one thing to have bad taste in art. Who am I to judge, anyway, I'm no artist? But I don't need people in my life who still smoke cigarettes to look cool, don't like classical art that is "too masculine", and who refuse to do a job they think is beneath them. There is a certain type of person who is like this. They used to just be called "bums" when the world was simpler.

3. Has hobbies that are strictly hits of dopamine such as smoking weed, Netflix, being "OMG SO SEXSHUAL" or being addicted to social media. A good woman might knit, or garden, volunteer, or do something productive. A good sign of anyone who is at least mid to high value are having hobbies that could potentially either save or make money.

4. Can't wake up early for something. Is always in a rush. This just shows poor time management. Often if a woman goes "UGH!!!!" a lot when she has to wake up early, or she jokes that she is "just dead" in the morning or something, she probably doesn't have her shit together. There are some people who just aren't morning people, and thats fine, but if she has an appointment, and she's rushing out of her house, almost tripping and doing her makeup in her car, and speeding down the road, she's low value.

5. Has no sense of the grand scheme of things. If she just lives for the weekend, she's going to rage and fly into a fit, often directed at a man that she things will break his back to make her happy. This one is almost tragic, because I think it is relatively new in modern women. In the past, women found happiness in having hobbies, socializing with other women, spending time with, raising, and enjoying their children. If she lives with friends in a trashy apartment, works at walmart, and blows her salary on white claws and purses, she is going to be doing this into her 30s and 40s most likely or until she finds a man to bail her out. These women take advantage of men and really just see no problem doing it, and in some cases are completely unaware of how selfish they actually are. It's less that they try to go out of their way to trick men, and are instead just blind to the finances, housing, gifts, dinner dates, and utilities that men give them.

6. Can't manage things. Calorie intake. Time. Work. Money. Pets. Friends. Family. This kind of makes sense and touches on some other things I've mentioned. General lack of management in her life shows a lot of detail about her unmanaged mind.

7. Dresses trashy. Covered in tattoos. Covered in piercings. Acts like a thot. Has a gauge ear rings. If she's one of those people who will pretty much likely never get hired at any respectable office job, I would just shun her, especially if she things that trashing her body looks good on her.

8. Can't be feminine. This kind of depends. Some women are just naturally the way they are, and there's no fault in that. Ronda Rousey isn't exactly feminine, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the women who are at war with their femininity because they know that femininity is what men prefer.

9. Can't/Won't/is lazy about cleaning. If her apartment is in disarray, or if her car is full of trash, she won't get cleaner, and will likely get worse if she lives with you. Men tend to clean up a bit more often when they live with a woman, or at least pick up after themselves. Women often get a bit worse, because there is no social pressure anymore for women to be clean. Any feminist reading this will immediately get annoyed, and that is exactly my point. Women think that "cleaning" or even "cooking" means "serving men" when it really can just mean picking up after themselves and not trashing "our" apartment and then splitting all of that cleaning down the middle when the man has been picking up after himself and trying not to make as much mess in the first place. The same goes for cooking. Women often say "I do the cooking!" when they don't do the dishes after, and let them pile up for the man to clean. This is part of the reason I am MGTOW. It's almost impossible to have a conversation with a woman about cooking and cleaning, and trashy women know this, so they use it as a crutch to live like slobs or even worse, have the man pick up directly after the woman. It's not even that I think women should do all of the cleaning. Like I said, men should pick up after themselves, and know how to cook at least simple meals and get their own beers and sandwiches. I, personally, am not looking to be a potbellied, beer guzzling guy asking for a "sammich" which is a trope that practically doesn't exist anymore in real life. The problem is that many women accuse good men of being sexist in this kind of way, and I just don't buy it.

10. She can't understand your point of view without getting angry. Self explanatory. She's a child if she can't hear opposing views without getting enraged. If you feel like you have to "watch what you say around her" and especially if she tries to spin her trash attitude into some kind of "tough girl" trope when she yells or even physically attacks someone ever, or marches and yells at right wingers on the streets, she isn't worth talking to. The most I ever interact with these women is saying "hello" very robotically. Often this gets their interest at work, I have found out, so I just try to be as boring as I can be by talking about where I go when I am walking my dog and what kind of jacket I wear or my lawnmower. Very very very boring stuff. MGTOW itself is a good example of this, and kind of proves the point. It's not possible to talk to MGTOW to a feminist or any woman probably, because a feminist will immediately assume you are sexist and hate women, and regular women will often take it personally. I never talk about MGTOW in person. Instead I just say "I've never found the right one..." and then I try to casually bring up changing refrigerator doors from one side to the other.

negdawin · 2021-01-06T15:10:53+00:00

All of those are great points, especially when it comes to relationships. You could call it MMV (Marriage Market Value)

However you missed the biggest factor for a woman's SMV - looks.

As long as she has looks, she will have endless supply of alpha chads willing to bang her, and beta orbiters looking to wife her.

It should be noted that the alpha chads might not stick around after sex because her MMV is low

Edit: This is just my personal opinion, curious what you guys think

daveed1297 · 2021-01-06T16:56:09+00:00

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docchol1day · 2021-01-06T17:11:15+00:00

Low value females:

Have kids. This is the biggest one. If you look like a 10, but have kids, you're a 3. Single motherhood instantly disqualifies you in my eyes.
Are not employed. Plain and simple. She's a loser. I'm not a charity or a piggybank.
Don't maintain their looks. No makeup, ratty clothes, and/or fat.
Have poor hygiene. If she smells bad, or has bad teeth, I'm out.
Has a personality that I can't tolerate for even short periods of time.

There are more, but those are my big ones. Being "hot" does not make me overlook these things. There are millions more women out there who are hot, and actually have things together.

Diogenes-- · 2021-01-06T16:21:08+00:00

Same as a LVM, a woman who makes all the easiest choices.

Easy male choice examples:

Porn or real women? Porn - you don't even have to get up from your computer chair.

Exercise or sit on ass? Sit.

Junk food or healthy food? Junk / fast food, it's tastier.

Video games or productive pursuits? Vidya, obvs.

So what about women? It's a bit different for them...

Sex or monogamy with a happy home & family? Sex, it's super easy. Guys hit them up all the time. Even disgusting 600 lb. HAES advocates have fetishists who want to bone them.

Celeb gossip & fashion, or a higher pursuit? Like omg totes, Kim K is on! I wonder if she's dating that new rapper Fluffaluff yet?? And is she wearing those new Versacci boots??? OMG!

Exercise & healthy eating to improve looks & self esteem -- or tatts, piercings, and green hair? The latter takes much less effort...

Etc.

It's always a choice between short-term pleasure and long-term pleasure, the latter of which could also be termed fulfillment, contentedness, etc. The most obvious example would be something like meth or crack. Short term pleasure is the fool's gold of happiness, it feels good but it fades quickly, leaving you wanting more. But it's a lot easier than making the choices required for long-term happiness. Humans are naturally averse to people who make the easy choices, but without knowing why, and frequently (and hypocritically) making a lot of those easy choices ourselves. I'm no exception btw, I struggle to make the harder choices and often don't.

New_Guard · 2021-01-06T19:29:27+00:00

One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is being intelligent and curious enough to have good conversations. It seems some (I assume younger) guys don't care about this, but it matters a lot to me. If I'm nailing a girl more than a few times, that means she has something going on besides just an enjoyable body. I'm going to start interacting with her outside of booty calls (or at least bookending them), and I want that time to be interesting. Some can enjoy the simple roleplay of being the masculine to her feminine, and that's of course nice, but it's not enough for me. I want multiple more layers, including a meeting of minds and the chance to actually learn something from her.

To the detractors who will jump in: yes, yes, common wisdom around here is "women are pack animals and have no unique thoughts," but that's actually just most people. It's difficult, but possible, to find smart, stimulating women, just like it's difficult to find dude friends who aren't morons. Maybe it's harder to find the women (especially the hot ones), but they're out there. And they're more enjoyable than the hot normies.

A tale: this summer, I got into a thing with a very pretty Asian girl. She had a great body, and looked like she could have been a model in her 20s. She was in her 30s, but was keeping things up quite well, and I was pleased with the goods. She was very feminine, and enjoyed playing that role, she cooked traditional food, she dressed stylishly and a little provocatively, but not too revealingly, she was a good flirt, she at least talked the talk of not wanting casual sex, she squealed delightfully when we had sex, she was the tightest I'd ever experienced, etc. She really was in to me, and clearly was moving in the direction of wanting to date me. But she just wasn't interesting to me as a mind. Beyond her body and her feminine persona, her hobbies and interests were just so basic. I couldn't imagine that a fully grown human could be stimulated by what she did with her spare time. I tried to engage her in conversations, but not much stuck. She was actually a fairly "deep" person in the sense of seeming empathetic and emotionally intuitive. But I couldn't shake the feeling that the good sex we had wasn't worth the mental vacuousness that I'd be forced to endure on either end of my orgasms. I let her go before she got too attached.

Now I have a plaything who's maybe half a tick less hot, and similar in femininity. We have a similarly enjoyable male/female dynamic, and she also cooks me great food. But she's very intelligent, can teach me things I didn't previously know, can entertain and explore thoughts philosophically (including ideas that would be triggering to most women), and generally is a highly capable and interesting human, in addition to her female attributes. I call that a serious upgrade.

Another piece of common wisdom around here is that women aren't for discussing ideas - they're for sex. I'm happy to have sex with any disease-free hot woman who is reasonably pleasant. But I want mental stimulation from anyone I spend much time with. This group has great guidelines, but don't be afraid to add on additional requirements to your women if you know that's what you need.

DextroShade · 2021-01-06T23:50:10+00:00

Things that make a female low-value:

Fat
Single motherhood
Old age
High n-count
History of sex work
Tattoos, excessive piercings, stupid hair style or color
Vocal feminist

Smerdakas · 2021-01-06T15:49:57+00:00

1) Takes selfies all the time

2) Posts them on Instawhoream

3) Goes to bars/clubs to drink with her female friends

4) Smokes

5) Uses or has used drugs

6) Too many tattoos and/or piercings

dynospectrum7 · 2021-01-06T17:59:01+00:00

OP, how do you define a low value female?

It eludes me where I heard it, but most men only want three (3) things from a woman.

Is she attractive to him? (Your physical preferences)
Is she pleasant to be around? (what do you vibe with)
Is she loyal? (define your boundaries)

I don't know much about FDS other than a post on here a while back talking about their strategies, but I believe it centered around not giving it up (sex) until a man is committed to her, buying her things, etc. We all know its a terrible strategy because:

Outside of the seriously religious, nothing is going to stop a woman from hooking up with a guy she really wants to hook up with.
If he does wait for that, she's going to subconsciously look at him like a lame who waited for the skins, and then drop his ass, or cheat if he's providing the bread.

Now I'm willing to bet my bottom dollar that subreddit says zero about being in shape or putting any effort into any M/F relationship. Probably tells everyone they deserve an amazing prince charming that has a large bank account with a large d to match. This is why I love some parts of TRP because from my background I identify with, "You don't deserve or are entitled to shit, you better earn it."

And this is off topic, but women just need to realize that dudes are not going to wife hoes lol. When it comes to a serious relationship, n counts definitely matter for us more than they do for them. We're just different.

ahackercalled4chan · 2021-01-06T15:51:41+00:00

this should really go on AskTRP

youareshandy · 2021-01-06T20:16:17+00:00

A very strong indicator of LVF is if she is controlling or jealous. If the woman is restricting you from socializing with friends, family, coworkers, and even strangers, it's often driven by her internal insecurities. If she has little to offer you in terms of value to your life, she will often attempt to command your attention by cutting your social ties with the people in your circle. What she doesn't understand is that a large part of her attraction to you was a result of your social proof, and that by selfishly isolating you from your avenues of communication with others, she is effectively destroying her own attraction for you. Women like this sabotage their own relationships, so it's best not to be on that ship when it sinks.

JakeMullerRE · 2021-01-06T18:25:35+00:00

I'm adding:

Resentful and bitter.

Both happens as a result of being a lazy fuck with no education, no ambition and rejection from men.

Conditions her husband into being the submissive beta male provider as opposed to being the woman who supports his dreams and goals and complements his life path.

She does it by using sex as a currency, shaming him for putting himself first and by demanding access to his bank account very early on.

Dresses like a grandma and doesn't take care of her looks.

You can easily spot a LSE girl by the way she looks at you. If she has the death stare, dresses like a grandma, never smiles and overall seems unattractive, stoic or passive aggressive, that is a strong indicator of low self-esteem and persistent feelings of shame.

Unable to sustain relationships and if she manages to sustain a relationship, it is very toxic and unhealthy for her and her partner.

Those girls are often chronic cheaters and have a hard time committing to one thing for an extended period of time.

Lives completely off of her onlyfans account.
Identifies herself as a victim all the time and never takes personal responsibility.

Muggle_Scum · 2021-01-06T19:03:33+00:00

Might I suggest you spend your free time doing things to build yourself up, rather than tear others down?

Sitting here, ruminating and commiserating with a bunch of other miserable cunts about "wimminz bad, woe is me" gets you fucking nowhere, and is consummately low-value behavior.

opistrue · 2021-01-07T11:53:11+00:00

Low value?

Well, if she is pretty then she is high value.

If she is UGLY then she is low value.

Please dont deviate from our ancestor's values.

hearse223 · 2021-01-06T15:16:32+00:00

If she's not bringing you money or opportunities to get the bag by the 2nd week of your relationship, next.

You have no use for parasites in your life.

BrownGummyBear · 2021-01-06T17:41:00+00:00

Lots of selfies on a social media platform such as Instagram. She’s probably addicted to beta orbiters’ constant validation/attention by then

deeredman1991 · 2021-01-06T17:56:54+00:00

Yeah, I would say this is a pretty good list for any woman looking to bag a Chad to read.

I can only think of one I might add; not being able to hold an enjoyable conversation.

UndifferentiatedHoe · 2021-01-06T19:30:09+00:00

It's sounds what your labeling as a low value female is just all women in general. I've noticed the 9s and 10s have gotten away with being shit that they are basically all like that. They are used to not having to do anything to receive love that they don't even know how to make a guy like them besides looks because looks have always worked.

Btw I'm basically a Chad and women r still shit and oblivious to making a man like them. It is just their nature. Whether you are on the autism spectrum or not women still don't care.

DeathByZanpakuto11 · 2021-01-06T19:52:55+00:00

Add this one on: #10. Insecure and plays mind games repeatedly to "test" and make sure the relationship is secure, asking everyday if you "love them"

ProFriendZoner · 2021-01-06T22:03:10+00:00

Entitled

On Welfare or working dead end job

High school education and won't do anything or learn new skills to improve herself or her standing

Multiple children by multiple men

Never married and child or children

I could go on

YngWn · 2021-01-11T02:44:31+00:00

Jeez Louise, the comments are infested with some woman-haters.

It's simple, if you are a high value guy, you will know what a high value woman is.

This whole post is a comedy.

Ejszaka · 2021-01-06T19:17:15+00:00

Corporate career feminist
Sleeps around / promiscuous
Single moms
Shallow personality / no wisdom / immaturity
History of cheating
Any female over 25 / 30 - post wallers / fatties
Current or former drug addict / alcoholic
Doesn't take accountability for her mistakes / actions
Masculine women
Entitled princess syndrome / narcissists

Also, may I add:

Party / rave thots
Too many piercings / tatoos
Skanky clothes / no class
No job leeches
Unintelligent / dumb
Snobs / gold diggers
Untreated mental illnesses / issues
Self-hatred / mistreats people
LQ friends / LQ exes
Hypergamist / monkey branchers

surfingjesus · 2021-01-06T17:01:36+00:00

Alexander Grace has a lot of good videos on this topic

2021-01-06T15:53:15+00:00

Wants her concerns/feelings taken seriously, dismisses any of yours.

Noaxx · 2021-01-06T16:59:44+00:00

Good emotional health/maturity is a really important factor for you to consider anything remotely long term

AshyLarry27 · 2021-01-06T17:37:16+00:00

If she is overweight and physically unattractive, yet acts as if most guys are not good enough for her and displays more "tom boy" like traits. Unfiltered in speech, open with the idea of being able to fart or burp around her LTR. These things are all poor signs of a woman who has significantly overinflated her worth with nothing to offer without realizing the repercussions. It's basically the opposite of the low SMV male. The more she tends to have more "tom boy," masculine traits in her, the lower her SMV. Just like the more feminine a guy acts, the lower his SMV.

Flintblood · 2021-01-06T23:41:03+00:00

For me honestly it's a few things that do not sound nice at all. I'm sorry.

If a woman is overweight and heading into obesity it makes sexual attraction really difficult if not possible. Your clothing size from age 18 on should be no more than half your age. A woman should have a waist that is visibly about 75% of their bust. No muffin tops or rolls.
Attitude about life and resilience is very important. Very few men with options want to be an emotional tampon for someone who frequently has a wet blanket outlook on life. I retreated from a very body attractive well educated woman because of this - but I may check in and see how she is now.
She has to have some pursuit or purpose in life or work ethic. That said, her mission can't require me to give up my mission or passions.
She needs to be mentally stable or well into therapy. If her whole place looks like a cross between a tornado aftermath and a gorilla nest then she may not be in a good state mentally.
She has very few if any close female friends, but funny enough she has plenty of guy friends. This isn't a marker of being low value, but something that may indicate other issues and is something that is borderline a deal breaker for me.

JameisBong · 2021-01-07T03:21:44+00:00

A purple haired fatty, who is also a rabid feminist. Feminism is for ugly girls, pretty girls don't give a fuck.

largepaycheckaddict · 2021-01-07T05:15:23+00:00

Weird body.. A girl with a flat ass and/or broad shoulders and no hip/waist ratio just loses my attraction no matter how conventionally pretty or cool she may be.
Sluts. They are only good for a fuck n Chuck one night stand or maintaining then relationship in order to fuck in the future. There is literally no point to investing in a slut. They are essentially a free prostitute. Why pay for something you’re getting for free? Have your fun and get on with it. Or don’t if you’d prefer to not have any mysterious rashes appearing around your genitals. Same goes for women with substance abuse problems.
Extreme liberal / feminist types. These girls more often than not are hideous looking to begin with. Women like this will constantly be attempting to emasculate you. They don’t understand the natural order of male-female dynamics. They see gods creation itself as “oppressive”. Stay away from these demon spawn or else.
“Childfree” women. Any woman who has such a fear or resentment toward children is unnatural. She is most likely a selfish person. Women like this believe they are entitled to a mans time and resources without providing him with sons to carry on his legacy.
Fat / out of shape. Not only are fat people usually gross, they have a lot of gross lifestyle habits too that can be a huge turnoff- like eating a whole box of Oreos in one afternoon while watching some double digit IQ television program. They say your body and health affects your mind, so fat people are also more likely to be stupid and live on impulse.

wehavemet · 2021-01-07T12:25:51+00:00

You can't. All women are different. And all bad women are also differently bad.

But for a gross generalisation it would be "someone who doesn't value the traditional value system"

That is a cheater.

dachengchuan · 2021-01-07T17:27:16+00:00

the primary item for a low level woman is: not virgin for her husband.

think about it seriously, what it says about the woman, her character, her values, her abilities.

what it says about the future of the marriage, raising the kids, building something with the husband, managing the money etc etc

it all start with a woman not being a virgin for her husband

pappo4ever · 2021-01-09T15:30:47+00:00

Old and/or Fat.

Also crazy I.E. Amber Heard is beautiful but extremely low value.

zino193 · 2021-01-11T06:13:47+00:00

I will be direct with you OP given your condition - for everyone else: stop looking for mommies - AWALT - the only question is: are they like that with you? If they are - you aren't making her leak like a Chinese dam when you meet her, you aren't leg hump worthy - lift more, get new jokes or get a new jacket.

For OP: Men date / fuck / are in relationships - because they are horny, feels good man - to have a small little thing treating you well. That's all that matters - did you trigger her "daddy reflex" - is she treating you well right now - in this moment?

Women PICK before sex - value has sense because women select certain traits. Men KEEP women around after sex.

Value has absolutely no place in that context - she can be a plump 19 year old, future communication major tattooed slut and major future post wall bitch but as long as she behaves and sticks with the program - you keep her around.

And this is how it's meant to be - women are great at following, reading emotional cues, sticking to the program of someone with authority. They aren't made to grow, conquer and innovate.

StarchRunner · 2021-01-12T14:13:46+00:00

Assume anyone is low value until they show otherwise.

Xexitar · 2021-01-06T18:25:46+00:00

This would be more appropriate in AskTRP or MGTOW. This post doesn't teach us anything and comes off as vitriol.

PremiumBerry · 2021-01-06T16:01:31+00:00

To be honest I'd say all women are low value, some are just more low value than others. Indicators of being the lowliest of the low include:

Uneducated
Doesn't have a strong father/home environment
Tattoos/Piercings/Unnatural hair colors
Social Media is all selfies (means she has nothing else going on in life)
Drug/Drinking habits
Dates outside her own race
Wears sneakers (Jordans, Vans) over heels, boots, or sandals
Poor diet
Doesn't exercise
Follows too many "blue check marks" on social media

Whisper · 2021-01-06T22:05:18+00:00

Considering how FDS likes to define what a LVM is

Why do you care?

FDS is basically emotional support for women who are unlucky in love. They sit about telling each other than men are rubbish, and that they have super high standards, so they can feel good about themselves despite their lack of success.

That's why it's all memes and griping about men, instead of analysis and field reports. Because FDS is about about feeling better, not doing better.

So my question for you is: do you really want to be attractive to the sort of woman who focuses on self-soothing rather than self-improvement?

Personally, I hope the women of FDS think I am super-low-value. That way, I'll never accidentally go on a date with one of them (which surely must be a grisly experience indeed). The women whose approval I want are the ones who already think men are pretty cool.

Jaccalope · 2021-01-06T15:25:54+00:00

Who cares? What does knowing our opinion of a LVF have to do with your views?

HurrDurrNoPill · 2021-01-06T17:22:59+00:00

OP, do you have the FDS link where they mentioned LVM with ASD?

brngamer · 2021-01-06T18:02:33+00:00

Look out for the red flags.

BlondeHornyElf · 2021-01-06T19:13:00+00:00

is she impulsive and is she considerate of other people?

2021-01-06T20:10:17+00:00

One that detracts from your purpose.

dopexile · 2021-01-06T20:28:30+00:00

A real winner:

Overweight

tries to get pregnant to trap men

Smoke cigarettes

Drug use

Bad credit\previous bankruptcy\title loans\car repossessions

feminist

short pink hair

lots of drama

Unwilling to change

tattoos everywhere

lots of college debt for a worthless liberal arts degree

no savings or income and can't pay bills

makes a mess everywhere she goes

lack of self control\impulsive

few hobbies

drinks a lot

frequently gets fired or quits jobs

family issues

lots of cats and dogs that are more important than humans

doesn't want to do any housework

Gamedragon345 · 2021-01-06T21:03:47+00:00

what percentage of women are slutty? 95%?

JudasPriest616 · 2021-01-06T21:11:46+00:00

"You Can't act like that, you are not pretty enough" Dont let no women control you or define you because at the end of the day, no women is worth it.

oooKenshiooo · 2021-01-06T22:02:32+00:00

I think your list is pretty much complete.

2021-01-06T22:42:11+00:00

I previously posted about The Red Pill aligning with a given political ideology; I was criticized for it but this post is a great example of why I think TRP SHOULD be aligning itself politically.

We bitch and moan about "low-quality women" but then say, "Oh, well we're just guys trying to get laid. We shouldn't be getting involved in politics". Don't you all see? Low-quality women are a DIRECT byproduct of the capitalist system we live in. Specifically, one that monetizes sexuality.

The arguments here that discuss a woman's value being 95% in her looks is because society; western capitalist society specifically made it that way. When the market dictates price of a highly sought out item (in the case an attractive female), there is no incentive to improve. Beauty has been milked for profitability in the west for ages and the end result is an entitled woman who things the world owes her everything.

In contrast, go look at any movie from the USSR from 1930-1989; you will NOT see virtually girl that the modern man would consider "hot". Because the USSR was directly, ideologically opposed to the West; along with the idea of profiteering on sexuality.

As far as OP's direct question, what constitutes a "low-value" woman... in this day and age, it can be safe to say that 99% of women are low-value. They exist through the experiences of others and take no responsibility for either their actions or the consequences that follow. I think if we want to see change in this world, we need to become active politically.

Playdoeater · 2021-01-06T22:43:57+00:00

Drug addict, multiple kids by multiple different fathers, no work history, no goals.

Sad-Independence4711 · 2021-01-06T22:48:15+00:00

Solipsism and lack of work ethic

SeasonedRP · 2021-01-06T23:34:40+00:00

Men collectively define physically unattractive females as low value. Women who are unattractive have to make up for it with other positive traits, whereas the very attractive difficult ones can always find a guy to put up with them. I don't necessarily disagree with your list, but all women do most of those, to a degree. Most younger women don't have to worry about their value; when they get older they do, and either become angry or behave better.

Men and women don't get judged on or assigned value in the same way, so making a list doesn't really help. Just learn to screen for red flags. Your gut will tell you when they are present.

Redditis4virgins · 2021-01-07T01:07:45+00:00

MGTOW2 is a troll subreddit, just heads up.

jessekene · 2021-01-07T02:43:41+00:00

Genuinely believe there is nothing like a low-value female. 'Low Value' means there is something intrinsic which they can channel from to build. This implies that women in their very nature are 'doings' compared to the fact they are really 'beings' (i.e. a woman is defined by what she is, a man is defined by what he does.)

Now analyzing the fickle nature of women and the fact they can change from a housewife to a slut in an instance, there really can't be any 'low value' women because they all can do the exact same thing.

ProCatMasseuse · 2021-01-07T05:53:07+00:00

If they're a manipulative needy bitch then they're a LVF. Anything outside of that is subjective.

saxonny78 · 2021-01-07T08:17:12+00:00

I hope some day you find a woman who loves you for you.

ChurchOfAnimeFeet · 2021-01-07T17:31:29+00:00

The be all and end all is a low value male makes pussy dry up and a low value female makes dicks go soft, like autism there is a spectrum to this too. Good looks are a factor, money, and social stance are the main aspects that define where you stand. Same rules for everyone.

A bitch who backstabs people isn’t low value it’s just your choice whether you wanna be around them or not. If they backstab enough to the point they have no friends they’d fall down in the social hierarchy. Social hierarchy means more for men in terms of attractiveness though than for women, women just need a pretty face and a big pair of tits.

On a further note, if your diggin up girls high in social hierarchy it will in turn boost your social status a lot, if you diggin up girls low in social hierarchy it will lower you in the eyes of girls that is, guys will probably just joke around with u.

Noodlesoupe2 · 2021-01-08T00:11:22+00:00

Depends what you mean by low value. In a strictly social sense it’s pretty much just her looks and status in the social hierarchy. In terms of RMV it’s looks plus agreeableness and mental stability.

2021-01-08T07:03:56+00:00

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Red_Cat69 · 2021-01-09T13:10:12+00:00

In short:

She takes value from you.

No matter how high-value others might consider her, if she takes value to you, she's low-value to YOU, which is, you guessed it, what matters to you.

A-A-Ronhiphop · 2021-01-10T17:17:27+00:00

Fat, tattoos, angry, promiscuous, ugly.

ashaw7 · 2021-01-14T15:46:11+00:00

What makes a man or woman low value is a matter of perspective. An executive will have a different perspective from a bike or a welfare queen etc. Most of this group is concerned with getting vagina, in which case being free if STDs and minimal other shit to deal with is what is highest value along with good looks. If you want a long term relationship then loyalty and a compatible personality matter. What women generally consider low value would be out of shape, broke, not fashionable, not fun to be around. The rest probably depends on the kind of woman describing the lvm.

RPthrowaway123 · 2021-01-18T11:31:12+00:00

Too ugly to attract an average male.

FearTheGoatse · 2021-01-06T23:11:59+00:00

All females are low value. There’s a Patrice O’Neil (RIP) joke about how men have to “create” women bc they’re essentially empty creatures who have no self awareness. I’m butchering the hell out of it but you get the idea. Honestly anything from Patrice is TRP gold.

Title	[Question] How would you define a Low Value Female
Author	AndyRobinsonSAAS
Upvotes	249
Comments	156
Date	January 6, 2021 3:03 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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