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Bullied boy turns the tables on his girl tormentor - then white knights who were watching the whole thing come.

andejoh

April 5, 2016
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Title Bullied boy turns the tables on his girl tormentor - then white knights who were watching the whole thing come.
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andejoh

Upvotes 226
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Date April 5, 2016 2:47 AM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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Comments

[–]Fwob 59 points60 points61 points 10 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

That poor sweet fat kid. "You okay?"

Nice rear naked choke though, even wrapped his legs around hers to keep her from escaping.

[–]clerk1o1 26 points27 points28 points 10 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Yeah the fat kid asking her is shes ok is pretty classy. He really is just trying to defend himself and not hurt the girl.

But is it bad that as a grown man i'm yelling at my computer, "Choke her out."

[–]antilock 13 points14 points15 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Finish her!

[–]slayerx1779 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Which one? Do I make her orgasm, or pull out her skull with the spine still attached?

[–]Grantypansy 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why not both?

[–]TheDaJakester 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think that the real question here is the order...

[–]mariox19 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

"Cobra Kai: No mercy!"

[–]clerk1o1 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Sweep the leg

[–]andejoh[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I thought you were going to say, if a (wo)man can't breath, a (wo)man can't fight.

[–]clerk1o1 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Missed the opportunity

[–]umar4812 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well I'm fifteen and was saying the same thing, so I guess it's bad.

[–]clerk1o1 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep

[–]CptSeaCow 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, that really got me, as it was evident he had never wanted to fight back but had been pushed to the point he had to. Really hard to watch.

[–]thegreyhoundness 85 points86 points87 points 10 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Nice choke. He told her he just wanted to be left alone. A crushed larynx should fix the problem, I guess. What an awful situation for that poor boy. He's probably tormented by those scumbags every day.

[–]andejoh[S] 13 points14 points15 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not just the hesitance to fight. One of the issues is that he seems to feel remorse for having to defend himself. He still doesn't feel like she should hurt her. IMO she deserved (and I wouldn't criticize him for it) to have been pummeled. Multiple bruises would have changed her outlook on social interaction.

Men and boys need to get over that whole chivalry thing.

[–]Breuer1 22 points23 points24 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She isn't going to be speaking with her normal voice for a day or two.

[–]Gimme_The_Loot 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

If I remember right from my ju jitsu the value in the rear naked comes from not compressing the larynx but rather but applying pressure on either sides of the neck to prevent blood flow to the brain causing a shutdown.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

True, but that's if you do it right. It actually takes technique. An untrained individual is much more likely to squeeze the throat.

[–]Gimme_The_Loot 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good point

[–]bakedpotato486 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

To do it right, would you pocket their neck in your elbow and squeeze the sides with your fore- and upper-arm?

[–]Mitthrawnuruodo1337 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Ya, according to my Krav Maga instructor that'll make them woozy in a matter of seconds if done right, so it's more effective in stopping a fight quickly. It's also less dangerous because if you crush the trachea with straight-on pressure, they can suffocate even if you let go. I've never personally tried or experienced it at full-force, though.

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[–]Mitthrawnuruodo1337 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've had it put on me by a 9th Dan Judo Grandmaster

Cool.

Ya in theory you need almost no force for the choke itself. The main thing you need force for is to prevent it from being stripped off if the person you are putting it on resists. If they can dig their chin into your elbow or get an arm in there or whatever, it won't work... but the actual force on the neck is pretty negligible regardless of how strong they are because pushing of flexed muscle can still convey pressure to the blood vessels.

[–]jtaylor73003 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes you not trying to kill them which is the sport mentality. He should just crushed her larynx to get to stop fighting. Self-defense against someone using deadly force is deadly force.

Deadly force is is force that a person uses causing, or that a person knows or should know would create a substantial risk of causing, death or serious bodily harm or injury.

[–]Mencite 55 points56 points57 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This is really troubling lots of MRA’s don’t get why this is to do with Men’s rights. Its important that we start thinking so we can really challenge the system.

Western culture tells boys from an early age that they must man up. It tells them they must respect women and never hit them. Thus here the boy can’t defend himself from a girl. Worse still when he does try to defend himself he’s attacked by a chivalry do gooder.

We must challenge this chivalry system at the core if we’re ever to get anywhere.

[–]Arby01 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

We must challenge this chivalry system at the core if we’re ever to get anywhere.

Here's the issue - aside from the brother, who should have stepped in to stop her - no other people on the bus stopped it either.

Why?

Because they're kids and the target was unpopular? Maybe. Probably, even.

However, also because they can't.

Step in and stop her, physically restrain her, threaten her - non of that can be done without the intervener being completely held to account.

We don't do this with people who intervene against male bullies. Women get a free pass for getting in a guy's face - and in this situation with a male bully, that's appropriate.

It's worth noting that this is a major part, in my opinion, of what makes this important. There is no longer any recourse against a violent woman or girl. In days past men didn't hit women, but women didn't do this - because when they breached the social convention that women aren't to act violently, they received violence. Now we have taken away the social convention that women shouldn't be violent, we have simultaneously increased the penalties to responding to women with physicality.

It's a catch 22. Until we get rid of chivalry and guys watching a situation can either intervene to stop violence when it's the girl being violent OR can recognize that a violent woman has earned the violent response and doesn't 'white knight' then women can't learn to be responsible about it. Society also has to take a more balanced view of the intergender violence - if the girl kicks him in the head and he belts her and her jaw breaks, that's still on her - the courts and police and society don't view it that way and that's not reasonable.

EDIT: their -> they're.

[–]Mencite -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Until we get rid of chivalry and guys watching a situation can either intervene to stop violence when it's the girl being violent OR can recognize that a violent woman has earned the violent response and doesn't 'white knight' then women can't learn to be responsible about it.

Can you stop making pointless convoluted statements you're wasting eyeball space. We just need to destroy chivalry especially chivalry types. We need to give women the equality they deserve.

[–]Arby01 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Until we get rid of chivalry AND ( (guys watching a situation can either intervene to stop violence when it's the girl being violent) OR (can recognize that a violent woman has earned the violent response and doesn't 'white knight')) then women can't learn to be responsible about it.

Clearer for you?

And nope. Not about to stop doing whatever it is I feel like doing. But you go on with trying to be the post police if you like. Have a great day.

[–]Zizuirl -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because it isn't a men's rights issue. I've seen this a thousand times, she's a bully and if she were a boy nothing would have changed. The so called "white knight" is her brother.

[–]unbelievablepeople 14 points15 points16 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That is absolutely terrifying. Our society really, really has to do something about the way so many children are subjected to violence from their peers.

[–]jtaylor73003 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What can we do? People willing use force can only be stop with force and with enough force that they never want to do it again.

I remember fighting two guys when I was young. I tried several times to exit the fight even when a third guy, one their friends, wanted to end the fight, but it took me stabbing one guy's eye out to end the fight.

[–]denyjunctionfunction 56 points57 points58 points 10 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't really call what her brother did "white knight[ing]" since it looks like they are both bullies and acting together. If anything it's brother helping sister out of self-caused problem. Didn't see anyone else do anything either.

[–]Gimme_The_Loot 31 points32 points33 points 10 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. It looks like they're both shitheads and the brother wasnt doing anything when it looked like she was winning bc there was no need. Once SHE was getting her ass kicked he jumped in. Pretty standard.

I feel for that kid though. They probably mess with him a lot if this girl is comfortable standing over him slapping and kicking him and honestly I don't see this making it any better for him in the long run.

[–]InvaderDem 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't see this making it any better for him in the long run.

They might back off a bit now that they know he'll fight back. There's also something to say about how he handled it - he didn't punch or kick back but rather tried to incapacitate her a bit. He knew what he was doing and may have more tricks up his sleeve.

[–]cvance10 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Standing up to your bully will help 99% of the time. They won't see him as such an easy target and find someone else to torment.

[–]Gimme_The_Loot 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think the best thing for him here is that it looked like he knew HOW to fight too. People don't like it when they don't know what to expect.

I said this below too but I did have an experience like this where fighting back just led to the kid trying to jump me with his friends a day later bc he couldnt have it known that he wasn't able to kick my ass originally.

Again I do think people should defend themselves and I think it's important to stand up for yourself but I don't think that it's a 100% magic bullet to say if someone messes with you and you stand up to them you get a free pass. Just like I had a friend who someone our age in the neighborhood tried to rob. Sure it's a felony but in your late teens it's basically bullying. He said it's not happening, they ended up fighting and he was stabbed several times. Got a punctured lung and a ton of stitches.

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[–]Gimme_The_Loot 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Maybe. Maybe not.

In counter to your statement I have fought back against bully's before. I'd say there are some parallels to this also except I live in the city so there was no bus like this. Basically was getting messed with by one kid. I fight back and people see it. A day later and for some time after him and his friends come after me. People had been getting at him for being a tough guy who couldn't kick the ass of a scrawny white kid so he and his friends wanted to make a point. It wasn't until my older brother and his friends came to the school to let them know there would be blowback for kicking my ass that things cooled off for me.

I'd 100% agree fighting back is the move and I'm glad I did it but that doesn't mean you're guaranteed a free pass after that.

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[–]Gimme_The_Loot 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Again I don't disagree that you should stand up for yourself. All I'm saying is it doesn't necessarily mean that you're 100% good to go from there on out. And of course everyone's situation is different but also based on this comment it sounds like you know your way around a fight pretty well:

So I taught his friends a lesson one by one the day after.

Keep in mind thats not everyone. Not everyone will be able to fight off their bully, then fight off the bully's friends when they all show up too, especially when you're the kind of kid get bullied in the first place. Not to mention where I grew up they're not going to fight you one by one. They're going to jump you and you're 100% going to get hit by someone in the back of the head while you're fighting the person infront of you.

Moral is in the big picture I 100% agree you that you should stand up for yourself, I think that is your best bet to not have to deal with bullies but I also don't think that it's a guarantee that you get a free pass from there. Even in your story you DIDN'T just get left alone. You then had to fight him and his friends one by one.

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[–]Gimme_The_Loot 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Umm ok. I think that was supposed to be an insult but I can't really tell.

In a world where we're all Tony Jaa then yes we'll all win every fight and never back down. In the real world some of us know when it's better to play smart.

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[–]Gimme_The_Loot 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You seem like a funny but stand up guy. Have some upvotes.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I concur. Fighting back is the way to go (specially when you realize that asking adults for help leads nowhere), but it doesn't always work as expected.

So kudos for the boy.

[–]jtaylor73003 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have found that the damage you inflict has to more than bully feels is worth it. In the book Enders Game shows it perfectly, beating the bully would mean nothing but killing the bully showed to his followers that high stakes were involved.

If person physically attacks you, your only recourse is to cause enough physical damage that they will never want to attack you again.

[–]off_the_grid_dream 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Where the fuck is the bus driver? Kids should not be unattended on a bus.

[–]risunokairu 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

You could hear her in the background saying she couldn't do anything but call 911.

[–]off_the_grid_dream 16 points17 points18 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

There comes a point when rules don't matter. I would take a quick clip of what was happening and then stop the bus and kick the girl out. It is time for people to take back our ability to deal with shit heads. Someone said she also encouraged the brother to help, so its not like she's following a clear rule book.

[–]Gray_FoxSW20 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

thats how you get sued lol

[–]off_the_grid_dream 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well clearly she was ready to get sued by encouraging someone else to join the fight. Why not be okay with it for stopping the fight?

[–]Demonspawn 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Such is the shame of our current society, that only "proper authorities" have any ability/right to resolve any conflict.

[–]jtaylor73003 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for pointing that out. I wondering where the bus driver was.

[–]PerniciousOne 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The bus driver legally cannot do anything. They cannot touch the kids on any way. They can only stop the bus and have the police deal with the problem.

The kid even wanted to be let out in the middle of nowhere, and the bus driver was unable to comply, since no one was coming to help the tormented kid it is good that he used less than lethal force to deal with the tormentors.

These are the children who are bullied come to school with weapons, and kill their tormentors years later.

[–]off_the_grid_dream 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have worked with kids for over 20 years. I could stop this without touching easily. If I was forced to I would physically intervene. Yes, you are not "supposed" to touch. But like I said earlier, I would take a quick video of the situation and then stop it from happening while having another student film me.

Also: Can she legally invite other kids to get involved? Because she does that in the video and encourages the brother to join in the fight.

[–]TheDude41 41 points42 points43 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]jonnytechno 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's no white knighting going on here, the only person that actually physically intervened was the girls brother

[–]Imnotmrabut 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"We are fighting a losing war against family violence until society withdraws permission from women to hit their intimate partners."

Controlling Domestic Violence Against Men, Charles E. Corry, Erin Pizzey and Martin S. Fiebert, Nuance no. 3, December 2001, pp70-86

Who told this kid that she has the right be abusive and violent.... and who told the white knights they should also accept, tolerate, condone and Support it?

Which hand rocks the cradle?

Conclusions Many of the present methods for intervening in domestic disturbances where women are the primary aggressor are dysfunctional.

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[–]BioGenx2b 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

more of a race issue than gender issue

Honestly, I'm not so sure. It's more to do than anything with this kid having no friends and being a boy. If it were a black boy hitting on a white girl, he'd be getting shit for it too. If she was fat and ugly, there might be an exception.

There is some racial dynamic at play, but it seems minor and not pivotal.

[–]NUMBERS2357 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't agree with this, and there was a recent event that showed it - the DeAndre Johnson incident. He was in a bar, there was some pushing to get to the bar, a white girl calls him some unspecified racial epiphets and punches him in the face, he punches her right back. All the feminists and everyone else took the girl's side, and nobody anywhere pointed out that she had punched him.

[–]LeHappyTrader 25 points26 points27 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Also the black boy could have been Obama's son.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sadly, that's pretty much the case. This black boy is not Obama's son. But if it was flipped around then totally.

[+]Revoran -6 points-5 points-4 points 10 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

This incident itself wasn't a race issue. It wasn't really a gender issue either. It was a bullying issue. Kids can be real assholes, and it's not surprising that the girl's brother helped her.

The double standard in the media are the race/gender issue, though. Because you're correct that if you flipped the races or the genders (or both) this would have been all over the media.

[–]andejoh[S] 16 points17 points18 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a gender issue because the boy could clearly have defended himself, but refused in the early stages because boys aren't supposed to hit girls.

[–]matmannen 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a gender issue becasue everyobdy was ok with fighting as long as it was a girl against a boy, turn the tables and things must be done...

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[–]Revoran 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

It is in one sense, but not directly. On a direct level, this is just a kid bullying another kid. The race/gender issue is the media reaction and society's double standards, which is separate.

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[–]Revoran 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The word is doublespeak, and it refers to when language purposefully obscures or reverses the meaning of words. Which is not at all relevant to my post.

If you're too simple to understand that there are multiple layers to this (the incident itself, and the media reaction) then there's no hope for you.

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[–]Revoran 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Implying that I'm conceited isn't a counterargument. Try again mate.

[–]tigerjaws -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Open your eyes

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

this seems to be more of a race issue? i would like for you to show where race was motivation fo her being a bully. it looks like hes soft spoken and isnt quick to defend himself. she picked on him because he was an easy target,im sure if he was black he would have gotten the same treatment

[–]IndignantTortoise 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He even asks if she's okay after he lets go of the choke.

The brother is a total jerk as well.

[–]Wargame4life 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They now call the kid the "Bus driver" because he took her ass to school!

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Where the heeeellll is the bus driver?!

[–]koc77 16 points17 points18 points 10 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

You can hear her on the video. She tells the kids she can't touch them, tells the picked on kid she can't let him off the bus and can only dial 911. It also sounds like she advises the boy he can help his sister.

[–]Jacobtk 16 points17 points18 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That is part of the problem. While no one wants bus drivers acting with impunity, this is a situation where the driver can see at least two kids harassing and assaulting another kid. At that point the driver should be allowed to step in and stop the assault, remove the children from the bus, and then call the police. It is absurd to think that the bus drivers would have to sit there and watch this happen and be legally bound to do nothing. Even teachers are allowed to step in.

[–]off_the_grid_dream 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It sounds like this particular driver is an idiot.

[–]mayainverse 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

dude. you can't help anyone with anything these days because it opens you up to liability. yea if she was willing to fall on her sword to protect this kid then sure. if she stepped in should could risk losing her job and even maybe go to jail for physically abusing a child. people have gone away for less.

[–]andejoh[S] 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

But she doesn't actually call 9-1-1.

[–]BioGenx2b -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

The police were already on their way at that point. Bus drivers are quick to make that call.

[–]Arby01 -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

proof? not in the video, are you making an assumption?

[–]BioGenx2b -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

School bus drivers radio in 911 calls. They don't handle those themselves because it's inefficient and easily interrupted if a threat attacks them. Dispatch is already contacting the authorities and they're already on the way.

This is standard procedure.

[–]Arby01 -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

So, you are making an assumption?

[–]BioGenx2b 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

As much as assuming gravity still works, sure.

[–]Arby01 -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Nice. You have zero proof that procedure was followed - there are plenty of examples of people not following rules - and you compare that to "gravity not working", which we have no examples of at all.

All because you didn't want to say "yes, it's an assumption".

It's not even a bad assumption, you just were so scared that your assumption might not be true that you wanted to insist that it be elevated to 'fact'.

You could have initially said "the bus driver had probably already called police and was likely saying all they could do was call 911 to reassure the youth that they had taken that action". Wouldn't really have weakened your point significantly.

You should really look at why you need to pretend you know facts that you don't know.

[–]BioGenx2b 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Or you're just incredibly naive.

[–]mayainverse 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

wait what? so the kid who is being bullied is not allowed off the bus? what the fuck

[–]socialinjusticewar -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

... driving?

[–]cajunrevenge 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Is the chokehold considered a valid way to defend yourself? I feel like it should be. I know schools policy is that the only way you dont get in trouble if someone is hitting you is if you go into the fetal position and soil yourself. Almost 20 years out of school and I still find it ridiculous that schools expect a kid to let someone beat on them.

[–]manofsea 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh it is much worse now, zero tolerance polices would see both kids getting the same punishment oh and no one actually stoping the fight.

[–]mayainverse 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

of course not. if you try to interfere even if its life and death you are liable and can not only lose your job but can go to prison and be tagged for the rest of your life.

[–]pancake_friday 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks, Obama.

[–]MindlessElectrons 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Where the fuck is the bus driver?

[–]cvance10 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey was like..."Am I going to have to choke a bitch?"

"Yep"

[–]McFeely_Smackup 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The kid's got a good instinctive chokehold, he not only got the hold, but braced with the left hand and hooked the leg too.

When he let her go, you can see the "what the fuck just happend" look on her face, she was seconds from losing consciousness.

[–]Ben--Affleck 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's her brother for God's sake. Of course, she's a little bully cunt... but siblings protecting each other will never change.

[–]Hodensack666 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

he should have killed that abomination.

[–]Xelipho 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not going to jump to conclusions here, but I don't think that was a white knight. It was just a kid rooting for his sister, and when she was in a choke hold, he wanted to help.

Now, that out of the way, they're both scum, and she deserved what she got. The poor boy, he's such a sweet kid, it sucks he had to deal with her.

[–]CaptainRandus 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That wasn't a white knight, to be fair. That was her brother. Bit of a different scenario

[+]lostapwbm -16 points-15 points-14 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

LOL. Black women.

I know the white guys are afraid to come right out and say it, so I'll deploy my black card: American Black women are the most terrible group of women on the planet Earth. They are rude, crude, violent, irrational, and hypocritical, and the raise their children, male or female to be the same. You see how this little chubby ghetto hoodrat had no problem climbing up on this fat white kid's back, punching him in the back of the head, actually stomped him in the head a couple of times (first degree assault) until the fat kid finally says "fuck it" and fights back.

Then the little fruity ghetto black boy runs up and starts yelling "don't pull my sister's hair!" and starts swinging on the fat boy, doing no damage because he's learned from black women how to fight. No, back up. He didn't feel the necessity of stopping his sister from kicking that boy in the head or grabbing his hair or punching him in the head, but once the tables are turned, suddenly he straps on his cape and it's time to save these hoes. Like I said before, hypocrisy. They are okay with beating up some unsuspecting stranger, but if they know you and like you, you being a bully is okay because you are in the tribe. But when you do something to them, oh boy, there's a problem. "Don't pull my sister's hair!"

I'll say it as many times as it needs to be said until people get it: The current state of black people in America is what happens when you allow women free rein to raise children without fathers. The women and men grow up attention-starved, sexually promiscuous, and savage because women in general, especially black women, lack any sense of restraint. The difference between men and women is that men get prison, women get probation or pre-trial diversion.

[+]manofsea -6 points-5 points-4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow. I think this is a theory that need some papers written about!

[+]Zizuirl -14 points-13 points-12 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This isn't a mensrights video. Just kids being kids.

[–]cavehobbit 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No, there is a real bias here. So long as it was the female beating on the male it was OK. When he started to defend himself that was when people objected.

In a sense it was a race issue, but only in the parallels between how one oppressed class person dares to get uppity and defend against a privileged class aggressor. 50 plus years ago in the U.S. it was oppressed POC against privileged whites, today it is oppressed males against privileged women.

[–]jonnytechno 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The only person that actually physically intervened was the girls brother

[–]Mencite 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'll spell it out for you if you're that slow. Boys are though from an early age that they have to man up and not care about their feelings. And they're thought they have to have a lot of respect for girls even in this case to the point of not being able to defend himself against an attack. And after he defends himself some chivalry type feels he has to defend her. And after he defends himself he is wracked by guilt. If you don't get why this is a men's rights issue why are you here.

[+]Sigul -6 points-5 points-4 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I can't blame the kid for fighting back, but I also can't blame her brother for jumping in like that. Choke holds can be dangerous, and I'm sure that kid is no MMA fighter.

I don't see this being a men's issue, just a bullying issue. Good on the kid for asking if she's okay, hope this at least put a stop to the bullying.

[–]HotDealsInTexas 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Choke holds can be dangerous,

So is kicking someone in the face.

[–]Trail_of_Jeers 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Boys let a girl beat on a boy, and when he defends himself the brother rushes up to save his ho sister. Why didn't he stop his sister in the first place?

It's a men's issue.

[–]Sigul -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Only if you think he would have stood passively by if his brother was getting choked out.

[–]Trail_of_Jeers 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Probable.

[+]Garen_Mechanics -8 points-7 points-6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Come on guys, leave this for /r/pussypassdenied, what does this have to do with men's rights?

[+]matmannen -10 points-9 points-8 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Trying to choke her is a bit much, but if all his "friends" had shown some support he wouldn't have been driven that far...

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