I feel gaslighted by feminism

Keokuk84 · 2024-12-28T18:36:37+00:00

They used to say......"It's not that every man you meet is going to rape you, it's that every man you meet has the capability of raping you".

I like to use their own words against them........ "It's not that every woman you meet is going to ruin your life, it's that every woman you meet has the capability of ruining your life".

Revolutionary-Cup954 · 2024-12-28T20:00:06+00:00

Feminists spread the idea that women and men are the same and equal. Then say men are predators. If men and women are equal, wouldn't that make women, also predators? Hint: look at lesbian relationship DV stats

pearl_harbour1941 · 2024-12-28T18:34:59+00:00

Sadly, welcome to the world of truth.

You won't hear about it from women, and you won't hear about it in the news.

Feminism is big money. They keep their well funded quasi-government jobs by scaring women and getting funding for scaring women.

The wage gap was debunked in 1979 by Prof. Thomas Sowell (he is on Firing Line in 1981 in this vid), and it's been debunked every couple of years since, including by feminists in 2014.

Women are as physically violent as men in their close personal relationships.

Women are excluded from being able to rape men, simply by the definition of rape being gendered. But almost half of young men have had "unwanted sex", and at the hands of young women. Call me old, but isn't "unwanted sex" rape??

1 in 4 women will be raped? No. It's 1 in 53 college women, and that is mostly sexual assault which is poorly defined. Its much lower as women get older.

This is a deep rabbit hole. Welcome.

The_one_who-repents · 2024-12-28T21:12:16+00:00

Most misandrists are feminist and so forth. What about all those female teachers raping their students?

Spins13 · 2024-12-28T18:20:01+00:00

You are not the crazy one, they are.

As with all politics, people purposefully misinterpret or outright invent data to fit their agenda.

As for the gaslighting part of feminism, you have to see it as a giant, society wide, shit test. It makes a lot of sense when you actually understand this. It’s a really easy way to find out if a man is capable of being dominant or not

Mefic_vest · 2024-12-29T06:12:59+00:00

The CDC - the single largest medical-research institution on the planet - has clearly recorded that women rape men as frequently as men rape women:

And now the real surprise: when asked about experiences in the last 12 months, men reported being “made to penetrate”—either by physical force or due to intoxication—at virtually the same rates as women reported rape (both 1.1 percent in 2010, and 1.7 and 1.6 respectively in 2011).

In other words, if being made to penetrate someone was counted as rape—and why shouldn’t it be?—then the headlines could have focused on a truly sensational CDC finding: that women rape men as often as men rape women.

Lushac · 2024-12-28T20:12:58+00:00

all men are potential rapists

This is just... stupid.

alter_furz · 2024-12-28T18:38:06+00:00

You feel gaslighted because you are.

Greedy-Ambition6551 · 2024-12-28T18:41:26+00:00

Honestly, distance yourself from them. It’ll be the best thing for you. Being around toxic people is worse than being alone. Feminism is a toxic ideology

itsakon · 2024-12-29T01:47:18+00:00

Feminism is built on gaslighting.
It is a toxic hate cult and your mom is brainwashed by it.

To be honest- that’s a willing condition for many women. I mean, it’s a belief system that says all of their problems spring from being oppressed. It’s very inviting.

South-Steak-7810 · 2024-12-29T22:18:21+00:00

“You (men) should have some control of who you let into your life”. Please tell me you’re not victim shaming men?

“If you want men’s rights”. What the actual fuuuck.

“That women are physically more vulnerable than men and therefore will harbor more fear towards them”. Is that why in non-reciprocal violent relationships, women are the perpetrators more than 70% of the time???

“In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases.” Source: Differences in Frequency of Violence and Reported Injury Between Relationships With Reciprocal and Nonreciprocal Intimate Partner Violence

Some general advice for men: as soon as a woman starts a sentence “but women…”, or “but men…”, after you are discussing a men’s rights topic, you can be pretty sure that that woman does not give one single iota of fucks about men. It’s best to then just say:” have a nice day”, and just move on with your day and keep any interaction with that woman to a minimum or just no interaction at all if you can.

mrmensplights · 2024-12-28T18:58:52+00:00

You are not the crazy one.

Feminism is a gaslighting machine. It's a brutal narrative onslaught again boys and men. In a narrative war feminism will win for various reasons I won't get into here; Let's just say it is almost impossible for men to win that battle against women.

So you have to cut through narrative.

Look at data. Look at studies done within or in conjunction with the hard sciences. That represents an objective truth that the feminist narratives can not henpeck and badger away. Feminism simply asserts a grand number of absurd things that are easily disproven or from obviously cooked studies. Their history is one of destroying studies that don't serve them, elevating ones that do, making cooked fake studies to push their agenda, cherry picking data, etc.

Women's unyielding in group bias will make it impossible to convince actual feminists of anything. Only with objective and robust debunking of feminist claims through real world data and studies can we liberate men from that narrative so, hopefully, boys like you have to live for decades or longer with the 1984esque nightmare feeling the inherent guilt and shame of the original sin of being born male.

tristanthompsonbeast · 2024-12-28T19:31:22+00:00

Am I the crazy one?

No, but we are in a crazy world

Ok-Yogurtcloset7394 · 2024-12-28T19:54:42+00:00

You aren't the crazy one. The thing is that you need to understand this modern day feminism. It's an ideological conviction for most and nothing but a somewhat clever way of forcing advantages for highly privilaged women. Through feminism women in positions of power have a cruel way of getting this morally twisted "check mate" in politics and the economy. Present yourself as a victim and anyone who debates you about it as the perpetrators. The way feminism purposefully presents their manipulated data disguises that selfish motivation as a morally justified concept. Most people who are feminists believe the misreptesented data. If you believe you are a victim you will feel like one. Such a way of radical thinking has always existed throughout history everywhere in the world and it always proved to be one of the most destructive things to society.

At fault are not the usual feminists who preach about it, it's the people who are unscientific, boykott any and all data that dosn't fit their narrative and who push this ideological BS onto people, purposefully deluding them.

Saerain · 2024-12-29T16:25:53+00:00

It was pretty fucked to grow up in, yes. Limpida said something on a Boyce podcast that resonated with me really well. Described himself as the sort of token boy in a girls' clique, and "I came to feel that to have negative thoughts about a woman at all meant that I didn't deserve to be alive."

EatM3L053R · 2024-12-28T19:19:19+00:00

No you're not the crazy one here. And if you want even more concrete proof, then look up the Duluth Model and see if it's been peer reviewed for accuracy.

The results won't shock you, but the cover-up might.

Land_of_the_Losers · 2024-12-29T00:54:28+00:00

Hi, man-- I'd like to reply to this because you are correct in surmising that you have been gaslit by feminism. And, what's more, this has been happening for a very long time. I'd like to tell you a few stories from my own past to illustrate. I think a big piece of it really started in the early 1990s. It was boom-time for what got called '3rd Wave feminism", and their perspective was gobbled up by an extremely gullible media.

During my senior year in high school-- I went to one of those rich, white prep schools where 98% of the students go to college-- and there was this sudden outpouring of articles in the media which could be summed up with: "1 in 4 women gonna get raped!" As part of our senior seminar, we had various college preparation courses, and one day, this "1 in 4" bombshell got dropped and the term "date rape" was introduced. And a lot of the girls absolutely flipped their shit. And we had to sit there hearing about how women were unsafe being around men, how they should get little tear-gas canisters for their purses, etc etc etc. And there was absolutely nothing you could say in response to this kind of ambush. To raise your voice would make you look pro-rapist, which I certainly wasn't. But that didn't matter.

I remember leaving the room feeling humiliated, shamed, deflated, shocked-- was it really that many?? Immediately, I ran into a gaggle of female classmates who were jabbering to themselves about how they can't trust any of the male students because we were all out to rape them. And I remember asking: "Hold on, are you saying that I am going to rape you?" With the response being shrieked at me "YOU JUST MIGHT!!"

I don't think that kind of discord was a fluke, either. That was the intention. After digging into the story of the "1 in 4" study, it was a masterwork of sloppy research (many of the women polled didn't consider themselves to have been raped and had simply had unenthusiastic, voluntary sex. A lot of the women continued to hang-out and have sex with their so-called "rapist"). But that wasn't important, the "rape culture" genie was out of the bottle.

If you do a database search for the term "date rape" in the early 1990s, it goes from nothing to thousands of mentions within a very short time. The feminists wanted media attention to make their points, and they got tons of it.

And this wasn't one fluke either, this sort of thing happened repeatedly. One year (I think it was 1993), Newsweek magazine devoted three consecutive cover-pages to the "war on women" which was raging in every country, in every street and in every bedroom. The poor little ladies were getting absolutely slaughtered everyplace they went.

Around the same time, there was also a spate of education articles about the "girls' self-esteem crisis", where the fragile darlings' pubescent brains start imploding because of society's pro-male bias and unrealistic beauty standards etc etc etc.

Then the was the anorexia crisis, an unseen holocaust where hundreds of thousands of women were starving themselves to death and nobody noticed.

And then, there was the scourge of the date rape pill-- a diabolical sedative which appears in a party girl's 12th cocktail which knocked her out and perfectly simulated how she'd act as if she'd drank too much. Every frat party was swimming with these date rape pills, see. Which the meatheads presumably produced in the basement chem lab or bought through Satan's Own Mail Order Catalog. So women would go to these "rape parties", voluntarily guzzle dozens of drinks, one of these Luciferian toxins would slip into her stomach, and she'd end-up sexually servicing some linebacker whom she'd publicly claim to not be attracted to in a million years because she's a Good Girl who'd never do that kind of thing.

An absolutely devilish ploy, is it not? Every feminist can tell you, in elaborate detail, about her friend of a friend of a friend who got rape-pilled in some frat party and had no recourse.

And, worst of all, when doctors started testing the blood of such victims, they uncovered traces of alcohol and other drugs, but never the date rape drug in question. Because it vanishes, see, making its existence impossible to verify. It's just that perfect. And apparently there's an honor code involved in its use, so it doesn't get used in anyone else's drink, just in the party-girl's ninth+ drink.

...All good propaganda has a kernel of truth to it, but some of this stuff really seemed over the top to me. And, when I started thinking critically about it, much of it fell to pieces. It took me years to do it, too. That stuff had just been beaten into me so long.

The fact of the matter is, there are very vocal activists out there who agitate for or against something. They want media attention. And when it comes to the feminist activists, to argue against it makes you look like a knuckle-dragging sexist. A lot of men just go along with it because life is easier that way.

I'm not saying that every media outlet is lying to you all the time-- that's an extremely dark path and I urge you to avoid it-- just that feminist claims need to be taken with an extra dose of salt. Most of the time, there is usually something dishonest about it. Maybe they're leaving out a critical detail? Maybe they're using decontextualized data? Maybe they referencing debunked studies? Etc etc.

SadWishbone8407 · 2024-12-28T19:45:39+00:00

Whenever I’m walking alone at night and I see a lone woman, I always cross the street to avoid them. They don’t know who I am so I feel like it’s the right thing to do as a man.

At the same time, I don’t feel like we’re afforded the same care. No one had any sympathy for me growing up and getting full force kicked in the nuts over a TV remote.

Former_Range_1730 · 2024-12-28T19:34:12+00:00

"I heard from my own mom and her gf during my teenage years that "all men are potential rapists"

Non hetero feminists hate men due to the human condition of xenophobia, which when extreme, people become highly irrational.

What you want is to surround yourself with women who actually like men, which tend to be hetero women, which they tend to be traditional, not feminists.

Yes this means removing yourself from your mother and all women like her. As they suffer from extreme brain rot.

My relationships with women, and my feelings about being a man, got way better when I changed the kinds of women I was surrounded by. It is very nice being around women who genuinely like and desire men. And these women don't have positive things to say about women like your mother and her gf.

Excellent_You5494 · 2024-12-28T18:24:44+00:00

You should read Christina Hoff Sommers.

RedittPermaBan1 · 2024-12-29T10:35:18+00:00

Same with me. I lost my self worth listening to prople blaming men for so many crimes.

My therapist helped me to come out of it. She agreed on what is going on with men and she actually understood.

Main issue is our bias brain. We say something good for men or complain about feminism, the girl who is utter feminist will come to fight.

There will be lot of other sane girls who might have read your comment but did not respond as like normal people they are not at any side.

We need to recognize that most of the people are neutral and few people are only at extreme side.

Now most women also agree that they become independent so time is changing.

If you are right, don’t think about what other people are thinking of you.

That’s true lot of men do such crimes to women but these may be just 0.5% or even less than that.

So, it’s not you, it’s not most of us.

Crime can be done by anyone men or women. Just because someone us woman does not mean she cannot do crime. This my female therapist said and this is the thing I needed to hear exactly.

There are some psychology stuff too like criminals are sociopath (evil side) and lack sympathy. Or some of them may have grown up in a bad company. Same goes for women. Most of the scam artists I see are women. Women play by brain, men play by force. Brain wins. If man will play by brain against woman, man will win.

Being on this group, you already are aware of lot of things and this group is for the men like you who gets confused or question their worth.

I am assuring you here that men who do r**es and stuff, most of us are not among them.

Also for some people who has Rejection sensitive dysphoria, these feeling are difficult to handle compare to others.

You have to be strict with yourself that if you know you are right, don’t care about judgements of others.

Entire-Concern-7656 · 2024-12-29T13:27:18+00:00

Sorry to ask, but what about your father? I couldn't stand living in a house where everyone is hostile towards me, no matter how indirect they were.

CeleryMan20 · 2024-12-29T18:18:20+00:00

Not just feminists, Lesbian Feminists.

Plus-Pollution-5916 · 2025-01-01T12:35:28+00:00

If what they say about men is true(violent), how come that most victimes of violent crimes are men?

What about most solders and cops happen to be men?

Why they never credited anything good to men?

Why they just go ballistic when trying to demonize men and generalizing about men being rapist when it is not?

I personally do not care anymore about what they say about men. They try to lower men by any means and they get excited from the thought that they can make men feel bad.

Never get offended by their opinions, they most of the time spew shitty utterances from their mouths to gaslight you so they feel some satisfaction.

Finally,remember that their ultimate weapon is their mouths.

luckycobber · 2025-01-01T23:18:12+00:00

My advice is to be prepared with a bunch of lines and statistics to shut down future conversations with men and women on this topic. It is toxic feminism at its finest. I would also strongly recommend not being involved with or associated with women that talk or think like that as it has had a profoundly negative impact on you mentally. Your mum should also know better having a son that she has raised to be a good man not to say stuff like that. She is most likely easily manipulated by other women.

Zenia_neow · 2024-12-29T17:03:31+00:00

Y'all used to say all/most women are stupid because they don't occupy stem fields, and everything feminine is useless, including the myth that women are worse drivers than men. You can take a little reverse cultural humiliation as men since you're stronger 💪

Title	I feel gaslighted by feminism
Author	JotaD21
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Date	December 28, 2024 6:08 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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