They're rewriting history

Ryuhi · 2026-03-03T12:53:34+00:00

It fails since history does actually acknowledge female warriors in Japan.

But then it gets to up to 50%? From, if I understand it right, the remains of one battle?

If 30% is your best number from a singular case, how do you get 30 to 50%?

Is it so insufficient for people to have “members of group x are / were able to do thing A”? Does it always have to be “members of group X do / did thing A just as much as group Y”?

Seraphayel · 2026-03-03T10:47:18+00:00

Hahahaha, I have no idea how ideologically brainwashed you have to be to believe something like this. That number would be more believable if it reads 1-50%.

22hearts · 2026-03-03T11:33:40+00:00

Actually when women were in position of power, they started significantly more bloody wars all throughout history, the studies show:

https://www.thecut.com/2016/01/european-queens-waged-more-wars-than-kings.html

Open-Inevitable1200 · 2026-03-03T13:12:51+00:00

They tried to do the same crap with cavemen.

Instead they didn't say cavewomen hunted too, but that cave women would have been more successful and better hunters.

Do I believe women were solely gatherers? No. In no point in history has no individual not done both gender roles. But being better hunters than the men? Yeah no, I do not believe that.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/archaeology/women-hunted-often-prehistory-men-b2451528.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/27/prehistoric-women-better-hunters-than-men-find-studies/

https://www.iflscience.com/women-may-be-better-hunters-than-men-latest-research-argues-71719

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12799713/Debunking-myth-male-hunter-Prehistoric-women-BETTER-hunting-men-study-claims.html

https://mymodernmet.com/women-better-hunters-than-men-study/

https://muddyum.net/were-prehistoric-women-better-hunters-c38aa5142375

InnerSwineHound · 2026-03-03T11:21:08+00:00

So are men the only violent ones or not? I’m so confused

_WutzInAName_ · 2026-03-03T14:36:28+00:00

Tell the people circulating this that they should have no problem supporting equal opportunity military conscription for both men and women.

They say things like, “Women can do anything that men can do, but better!” Then draft ‘em.

Snoo_78037 · 2026-03-03T16:18:13+00:00

They've always done this. The main weapon feminists have is historical revisionism.

Mode1961 · 2026-03-03T14:03:55+00:00

It’s interesting how scientists sometimes use DNA or biology to confirm someone was a woman, essentially letting biology define what is and isn’t a woman. It seems this is celebrated and not used as grounds for criticism, but only when the science highlights something considered positive about women.

URNameHere90210 · 2026-03-03T14:54:17+00:00

Revisionist history is why I don’t trust history.

History is factual and perfect, like science is perfect and utterly unbiased. But historians, like scientists, are human, and subject to human biases. When political ideology creeps in, objective facts can be willfully misinterpreted to skew analysis in favor of their preferred outcome.

Alternative-Buy-3722 · 2026-03-03T13:16:49+00:00

So women in Japan were as privilaged as men.

critical_Bat · 2026-03-03T11:58:57+00:00

Your teacher has critical theory skills (not sure if skill is the right word). This is par for the course.

RIchardjCranium · 2026-03-03T14:58:42+00:00

And how many times has this happened in the past. All history is suspect unless you actually witnessed it firsthand.

CeleryMan20 · 2026-03-03T19:05:21+00:00

OOP posted a self-correction in the screenshot. I wonder how many views and likes that got versus the original “30–50%” meme?

I’m not saying that onna-bugeisha / onna-musha didn’t exist or that women didn’t fight. But to extrapolate a sweeping claim for 30–50% of warriors across several centuries from archaeology of a single (I assume) battlefield?

MeasurementNice295 · 2026-03-03T16:06:53+00:00

If their husbands lost and the battlefield came to them, I guess?

CeleryMan20 · 2026-03-03T18:39:00+00:00

The username “everywomanisworthy” made me think of the Monty Python song.

ZouDave · 2026-03-03T21:44:53+00:00

Huh. So, suddenly, you CAN tell the difference between a man and a woman at a DNA level I guess?

Busy_Reporter4017 · 2026-03-03T14:34:56+00:00

"The claim that 30–50% of samurai warriors were women is not accurate based on available historical and archaeological evidence.

Archaeological studies, particularly at the Battle of Senbon Matsubaru (1580), found that 30% of battle corpses discovered away from castle sites were women, suggesting significant female participation in warfare during the Sengoku period. Similar results were observed at other battle sites across Japan. However, this does not equate to 30–50% of all samurai being women.

The term "onna-musha" (female warrior) refers to women from samurai families who were trained in combat and participated in battles, especially during times of crisis. While some notable women like Tomoe Gozen, Tachibana Ginchiyo, and Akai Teruko are well-documented, they represent a small fraction of the overall samurai class."

Manaheaven · 2026-03-04T08:26:10+00:00

I swear to God women have the most severe inferiority complex. They are so desperate to prove they are as capable as men. It's actually kind of pathetic

oseday · 2026-03-04T11:23:58+00:00

On another comment they said this:

You can check out British Museum (.org) about their latest Samurai exhibit and look up Battle of Senbon Matsubara. Smithsonian has more info & even The Financial Times & The Guardian have covered news of the British exhibit.

That fact checked: British Museum, Smithsonian, FT, and the Guardian are talking about correcting the “all samurai were men” stereotype and noting that “samurai” became a social class that included women. Smithsonian even quotes the curator saying “Half of the samurai class were women,” meaning status and household membership, not that half of battlefield warriors were women.

The viral “DNA from battlefields, 30 to 50% were women” claim appears to come from a single head mound site at Numazu (Sembon-hama “kubizuka”), and the actual published study is from 1989 and is osteology, not DNA. It estimates about 105 individuals with roughly 1/3 female based on temporal bones, and it is tied to local tradition about 16th century battles. That is one site, one context, and it is not evidence that 30 to 50% of samurai battlefield combatants were women across Japan.

SKRyanrr · 2026-03-04T23:05:47+00:00

This type of rhetoric makes people lose trust in science when it's not even scientists who makes those claims. Keep pushing back.

CeleryMan20 · 2026-03-03T19:01:36+00:00

Ugh media. Found this on a web search (not the research that OOP was talking about, but an example of how you need to read past the ideologically-twisted clickbait headline and intro to get to the ‘well ackshually’ part).

Headline: “Half of Japan’s samurai were women, groundbreaking new exhibition at British Museum says”

Call to action: “Join the Independent Women newsletter with Victoria Richards for a thoughtful take on the week’s headlines”

Lead para: A groundbreaking new exhibition at the British Museum reveals the untold history of Japan’s Samurai class, including the fact that half of them were women. [Technically correct, but easy to miss, it does say “class” not “warriors”.]

Later in body: “The mercenary group developed into a rural gentry and by 1615 they had moved away from the battlefield to serve as government officials, scholars, and patrons of the arts. … It is here where half of the samurai class were women and although they did not tend to fight they were a vital part of the elite order, playing a key role both on and off the battlefield.”

Link: https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/japan/british-museum-samurai-women-warrior-myth-b2913476.html

Glittering_Animal395 · 2026-03-03T15:21:30+00:00

Fuck off

Soulful_Sadist · 2026-03-05T23:49:45+00:00

Just because they say a thing, slap on an interesting picture, and type the words in a semi-attractive font... does not mean that even a syllable of it is accurate.

So many are so quick to just believe anything. Most of us are, in fact, I've sadly found Myself caught in that trap a time or three in previous years. And, of course, it's no fun to be called out on. However, on this platform, more often than not people who attempt to 'call BS' on something presenting what they think is refuting "evidence" present what is clearly heavily biased and baseless information rather than solid verifiable evidence. It can quickly become a childish A-said-B-said going nowhere of benefit fast.

On a good day, I find it amusing. Most of the time, however, it's just embarrassing and a reminder of how much time I'm wasting that day on social media. So, in those moments, I inevitably go find something more valuable to do anyway.

Emily58427 · 2026-03-07T23:45:21+00:00

💀Damn. they say 30-50% of samurai warriors were women? Wow, its impossible to not laugh out loud from this ridiculousness. "women kill men just as much as men do. girl power. equality.✊" bruh.

OkDescription9322 · 2026-03-03T14:11:23+00:00

A lot of men are brainwashed in this subreddit, yes there are many peer reviewed archeological studies that show in prehistoric time 30-50% of hunters were women. There are also peer reviewed researches that show out of 100% foragers hunting and gathering societies in 75% of those societies out of hundred women were hunters. There are also studies that show sexism and bias in archeological researches “ the studies show that a lot of researchers deliberately don’t study when they encounter a woman skeleton with hunting tools they simply assume that skeleton is a man’s skeleton, the researches indicate most studies are carried out like this that is why there is a big assumption that men are only hunters and women are only gatherers.

Title	They're rewriting history
Author	oseday
Upvotes	517
Comments	71
Date	March 3, 2026 10:35 AM UTC (5 months ago)
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