This is just disgusting

TibsKirk · 2017-10-03T03:47:28+00:00

I'm seeing a ton of this stuff in terms of blaming men and masculinity, while few of those writers even seem aware of the number of men who shielded female bodies with their own bodies. How are those men so invisible to these folks?

theothermod · 2017-10-03T06:23:27+00:00

The title of your post does not say anything about its subject. This forces people to click and read before they can decide whether they are interested.

If everyone did this, the subreddit would become unusable.

So please don't do it. Take the time to describe your link, and save the time of hundreds of other people.

In future, such posts may be removed.

AiroDewitt · 2017-10-03T02:23:50+00:00

Can't we just agree that some humans do horrible things, male and female?

McGauth925 · 2017-10-03T13:42:37+00:00

Think about what we see here, and especially over on MGTOW: Lots and lots of examples of guys who generalize to all women based on whats a minority, or a few, or even what ONE woman does, all to make women look bad. It's BS. Surprise, surprise, women do the same thing. More BS that serves only to polarize us all even more.

Actually, seeing all the crap that women have said about men, I enjoy it when men in the manosphere sling it back at women. But, at the same time, I know I'm indulging in BS. There has to be a another way, that actually makes things better than trading insults does.

rFriedPidgey · 2017-10-03T08:19:31+00:00

Number of women who falsely accuse men of rape > Number of male mass shooters

wickedogg · 2017-10-03T15:56:30+00:00

We can't stop mass shootings by declaring that men are more likely to shoot people than women. Is she advocating that only men should have better access to mental health care and women shouldn't?

ThePigmanAgain · 2017-10-03T09:29:40+00:00

That's because such women are too busy beating up their kids.

cuauhtem0c · 2017-10-03T15:33:34+00:00

I don't necessarily agree with the text in the OP. However, I'm really interested in this dichotomy I see in the discourse on this board, where on one hand posters are VERY resistant to having any kind of meaningful discussions about the intersections of masculinity and mass shootings/ violence, whereas it seems to be encouraged to discuss the intersections of women and crime/violence. There's literally a mod-stickied post at the top right now that is simply a list of cases of women abusing children

I'm not sure what my point is, but I guess I wish I saw more actual discussions of the societal pressures and issues that cause men to statistically tend to be more violent (at least in terms of mass shootings) instead of this board just being a circle jerk to shit on women and feminism.

edit: thanks for gold! i'm not sure what that means but i appreciate it

Hirudin · 2017-10-03T15:52:24+00:00

Women don't need to break the law to ruin other people's lives. Hell, the legal system will actively encourage it.

NewWave647 · 2017-10-03T04:12:14+00:00

ignore her

tonster181 · 2017-10-03T15:57:44+00:00

I get so tired of people using tragedies to further their political purpose, no matter where they lie on the political spectrum.

n_surf · 2017-10-03T09:45:45+00:00

If we are going to discriminate on gender might as well do based on ra-. Oh, oh no... I got it all wrong. Everyone's-but-white-cis-male lives matter. That's better.

ExpendableOne · 2017-10-03T13:49:14+00:00

If there is any reason why there are more men than women involved with shootings(though, to debunk her argument, there certainly has been women involved with mass shootings), it would probably boil down to competence and the general expectations that women place on men to be competent.

These mass shootings are not a problem of power+masculinity or men+violence but, rather, a problem of weapon of mass carnage+competence+crazy. There are definitely fewer women involved in shootings, not because there are fewer women who are crazy, but because women systematically expect men to do the fighting for them. Men don't just procure weapons or train in how to use them because that "just what men do", they do it because their safety is considered their own problem, and so is the safety of every women in their lives. They learn how to use weapons because, there's any kind of threat to them or women around them, they are expected to be able to handle it by any means necessary.

If women took their own safety and self-defence, and the defence of all their peers, as seriously as men are expected to, then you would see a lot more women procure weapons and learn how to use them effectively. It's pretty much the same reason why you don't really see a lot of women at the gym getting tougher and stronger. Same reason why the military isn't full of women who want to be soldiers, trained to shoot and kill. No one expects them to be competent in a moment of crisis or emergency, because they are the protected class and men are the fodder that are meant to die for them and because most women just do not want the risk or responsibility of being a fighter/soldier.

TaxDollarsHardAtWork · 2017-10-03T14:14:40+00:00

Apparently she forgot about San Bernardino.

shill_account48 · 2017-10-03T04:40:51+00:00

Think about just how fucking stupid the average person is. Now realise that about half the world is actually even dumber.

heimdahl81 · 2017-10-04T22:14:30+00:00

About 80% of suicides in the US are men and about 60% of gun deaths in the US are suicides. A large amount of mass shooting end up with the shooter ending their own life. Somehow nobody sees any connection.

DarkDoesThings · 2017-10-03T13:01:56+00:00

According to feminists mass shootings aren't such a big problem going by their former statements about how rape is much worse than murder since there's no murder victim's ruined life to speak of. If the feminists were consistent they'd be ranting about how a mass raping would be and is much worse than a mass shooting.

Suddenly though it's a problem and murder is pretty bad. Almost as if they forgot all about rape?

This woman can't deal with the fact that there might be something she shares with this man; mental illness. So she needs to remove the association and other him.

Nintendobandit · 2017-10-03T15:25:13+00:00

Maybe not mass shooter but mass murderers? Sure! Female mass murderers

IronJohnMRA · 2017-10-03T12:22:28+00:00

Reading her post actually turned my stomach.

col2eight · 2017-10-03T15:51:53+00:00

Men die by suicide 3.5x more often than women. She didn't even bother to Google it beforehand.

TracyMorganFreeman · 2017-10-03T16:19:21+00:00

"All mental illness is the same, and there couldn't be a kind of mental illness where one exploits others to have them do your dirty work for you."

HappyHurtzlickn · 2017-10-03T16:40:43+00:00

You're right, they don't shoot random strangers. The theme I've seen is they drowned their children in the bath water. It happens so often it doesn't even get press anymore. Morale of the story, you're stupid because mental health issues manifest in different ways.

kennat91 · 2017-10-03T09:20:08+00:00

She is fundamentally right, men commit more acts of violence because they are male. It's simply a fact men are more violent and we know testosterone and aggression are linked.

Retspihi · 2017-10-03T15:44:51+00:00

Lol wow

BehindTheBlock · 2017-10-03T09:08:13+00:00

How is this disgusting. Do you must disagree with women just because you're an MRA. I'm a Men's Rights Activist and i completely agree with this woman. How is pointing out facts disgusting? The fact is all mass shooters are male.

Nintendobandit · 2017-10-03T15:16:28+00:00

Gee, it wouldn't have anything to do with men being abused and neglected by their mothers or screwed over in divorces (by women.)

The maniac was going through a (acrimonious?) divorce and worked at the casino? Maybe he was on the hook for $$$ alimony or lose everything and then got fired? Also, his father was a psychopath and I wonder what his mother was like.

🤔 I'm speculating though.

There have been female mass murderers and shit, probably serial killers iirc.

DarkDoesThings · 2017-10-03T13:22:15+00:00

No, the reason is because islam doesn't trust women to carry out these vile attacks. If you are going to be a feminist, at least look at the rwal reason women aren't more often disgusting mass hooters.

Proteus_Marius · 2017-10-03T15:27:37+00:00

JM Black is offering up an alternative fact, at best.

It's probably more like leveraging a human tragedy to promote a passive-aggressive agenda.

Title	This is just disgusting
Author	probly2drunk
Upvotes	452
Comments	115
Date	October 3, 2017 1:54 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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