Why is seemingly nothing ever women's fault?

DerKleinmeister · 2025-07-16T01:51:14+00:00

I will never understand how Feminism will be "for men too" while stating "kill all men" and "men are Trash"

Pristine_Football471 · 2025-07-16T02:16:30+00:00

I agree with you Sir. As much discourse as there is about abuse BY Men, there is also abuse AGAINST Men by women, yet women, and society want to focus on the Men who are abusive, but women can be equally as abusive. I am a woman saying this and I don't believe its fair to Men. I think because Men are generally physically stronger, it makes women afraid of Men, whereas there is the assumption that a Man can easily get away from an abusive woman. But, it's not that simple.

But in short, feminism is trash because it teaches hatred of Men and really is doing the thing that the feminists claim to hate, just with the opposite gender. Feminists also hate women who choose to be housewives or serve Men in some way, calling them "pick mes".

It really is not fair to Men and I don't have an answer for a solution. But I do agree with everything you said above.

Burned_Out_Paradise · 2025-07-16T05:56:50+00:00

Just my opinion, but women are constantly protected at all costs by western society, due to being the child bearers and gatekeepers to sex. That’s it, really. They carry the children, they decide on sex. Society values that, while men and their “seed” are a dime a dozen. Send them off to the oligarch’s war instead.. 😉

One_Adeptness_7610 · 2025-07-16T00:36:29+00:00

Most women have been conditioned to believe they don't need to take accountability.

PumaPaws52 · 2025-07-16T04:10:45+00:00

Society and feminism conditions women to see pretty much any interaction with a man through the lens of "I'm the oppressed and he's an oppressor." Which leads them to never take accountability for anything they do that could hurt men, or they see it as justified because it's "punching up."

Stinky_Stephen · 2025-07-16T05:52:47+00:00

And that is one reason why lesbians have higher divorce rates than straight couples.

New_Manufacturer5975 · 2025-07-16T06:43:27+00:00

Because most of the world enables misandry sadly.

Electronic-Run4058 · 2025-07-16T01:36:19+00:00

The whole point of feminism is to remove all consequences for actions and any accountability for women.

imextremelymoderate · 2025-07-16T01:25:23+00:00

This attitude infantilizes women, and actually makes men appear more powerful and capable

1Cobbler · 2025-07-16T07:56:41+00:00

Feminists have convinced society that they are all truthful, level-headed, mature individuals, while us men are barely potty trained. It's pretty gross and the second you push back in the real world you get cancelled.

As a man who's been through a divorce in the last few years you end up faced with this situation:

"If I leave this relationship where I can never do anything right I'll be labelled as a coward, and shunned by my family, but if she does it she'll be called stunning and brave and get support from all quarters, except perhaps from your immediate family and closest friends."

It forces us to stay in toxic relationships because we have no clean out.

TKD1989 · 2025-07-16T01:51:42+00:00

Because women aren't raised to hold themselves accountable and are treated like irresponsible princesses by society.

mrkpxx · 2025-07-16T06:53:03+00:00

It's the empathy gap.

No_Treacle_1461 · 2025-07-16T11:30:49+00:00

Bang on.

Misogyny is gaslighting. Misandry kills. 🙄

Ultimate dumb hypocrites. No self awareness what so ever

Honest-Weather8663 · 2025-07-16T12:37:46+00:00

I hv been seeing this trend where feminist sisters are making reel saying that they'll call out their brother if he mistreats a woman and in a conflict they'll always side with girl. no matter who's right n that they won't call out their own sister for cheating coz men suck n women are always better than men.. It's concerning. They call it GIRL'S GIRL These feminist sisters teach their brothers how to treat women but if someone teaches girls how to treat men people would be screaming

MeasurementNice295 · 2025-07-16T01:38:35+00:00

This is so well put.

And the sad reality is, their ideology was build upon in a way that everything that can possibly happen is only further confirmation of it, even directly contradicting things.

DifficultyDry5305 · 2025-07-16T15:33:52+00:00

The mental gymnastics I had to go through just by pointing out that women should be held accountable for bullying other women's looks then there's another woman who told me "Oh, it's because of toxic men and that's why we had to conform to some beauty standard. Women should be educated about the patriarchy."

???

abigailmermaid · 2025-07-16T04:16:03+00:00

25 female here. You’re 100% correct. Don’t entertain any women that have a feminist worldview.

World-Three · 2025-07-16T01:16:43+00:00

Forever. Also I'm not a woman, so I'm sorry.

I need to start with the fact that I don't agree with it. But it works.

If we were both equally as responsible for our own safety women wouldn't dress provocatively around strangers, or take swings at people they wouldn't ever be able to defend themselves against. They wouldn't rely on a bar or club scene to meet people, or actively date people who make them hate all men, create families with men who have several signs that they're unfit parents.

Obviously there are exceptions to this, but figuratively, they're sitting at one end of the seesaw and blaming men for it sinking when it wouldn't have sank if they were willing to mitigate their weight or stand on their own two feet... Which are both made to be men's fault as well. And ultimately the men in line to play these games with practically any woman aren't allowed on.

I say this in an effort to illustrate that bringing things down and making it your fault is what's happening. Screaming "I hate men" in a room full of men gets men to want to prove their innocence. When if they said, "I hate bad men" it would earn an entirely different response. So what's sincerely careless isn't calculated, but things that are calculated, can be careless. We're dealing with the latter.

"What's this mess on the floor?" Is not only a spotlight to a mistake, but also indication that the person who pointed it out, isn't going to clean it up, though more importantly, indicates that that person doesn't care who made the mess, they just don't want to see it. Majority men are tasked with the custodian's duty to clean up after men we are not. While the people who demand that mess be cleaned search for the men who made it, to make another with them and complain about it again.

It's just as you say. Women dating bad men is men's fault, because the men hid who they truly were, but men dating bad women is men's fault, because they created the system, ignoring that the same argument that women hiding who they truly are is just as much a problem to society. Likely because if they didn't... Men would feel validated to feel the way they do about questionable women instead of blame themselves, which is what most of the world wants... Go get better so we can place more weight on you. Go get divorced and have your wages garnished so you work harder, go have children you cannot see so if you miss having a child in your life full time, you go have another. Buy another house, another car. While we encourage women to spend money like they're in control of the US Mint.

The easiest way to ruin your money is to let someone else spend it. From others, to the government by printing enough of it to depriciate the value of what you earned.

"Do better" doesn't always mean you haven't already done enough... But it always feels that way.

sigmaguru4680 · 2025-07-16T17:08:57+00:00

Because it isn't. Allow me to explain, you have two teams, A and B. People from Team A support their own members. The majority of people, or at least the key stakeholders from Team B, also support Team A members. The chances of Team A winning increase with every match. Similarly, whenever women face injustice or inequality, they stand united, regardless of race, social status, or wealth. They see others as part of the same team: The Women’s Team. As a result, other genders won’t dare to do them wrong.

Unfortunately, many men choose to side with women, whether they are right or wrong, for their own personal gain, because they see each other as competitors. Sometimes it’s due to racism, other times, it’s classism. The point is, you can't blame others when your own team members are divided, especially when you have snakes in your own backyard.

mrmensplights · 2025-07-16T17:42:52+00:00

The core structure of feminism is that men and women are two distinct identity groups, that the man group has more power, and that they use that power to dominate and oppress the woman group. That is called power dynamics and identity politics.

It's a way to build solidarity among women by scapegoating men as a shared enemy. It also generates anger at perceived in justice which can be converted into political action. Additionally, when you perceive yourself as the weaker and exploited group it engenders an "ends justify the means" attitude where playing dirty is justified as "punching up".

This is what justifies their lack of accountability, their DARVO, their knee jerk reactions to men acting badly, and their implicit and instant empathy for female perpetrators, their belief in reparations, and numbness to male suffering.

Actually, the feminist meme itself is built on deeper evolutionary psychology but feminism builds structure on top of that and makes realized culturally to the point where it can become anti-male societal policy.

jalexander_97 · 2025-07-16T03:51:16+00:00

Feminism is just a bludgeon for women to beat us over the head with at this point. Interestingly enough, it’s been oddly inspiring for me recently to see the men in r/trans fight back against being silenced by the women in that community. I guess you know it’s bad when you’re that desperate for hope.

Lilly_Rose_Kay · 2025-07-16T07:56:07+00:00

Feminism has become a cancer. It started out fine- voting rights, equal rights for legal purposes, able to own property, choose who we marry, ect. But it morphed into something evil.

Now it is linked to the far left. Very anti-Christian. Anti-men. Anti traditional values. Men and women are equal in value but created differently for different purposes. The phrase "whatever a man can do, a woman can do better" is BS. Women will never have the physical strength and stamina of men. And men obviously can't bear children.

Classic_Grapefruit83 · 2025-07-16T06:21:11+00:00

Unfortunately, in this day and age, it's rare, but I agree with you. I'm on your side with this. I do my very best (I'm not perfect) to make sure my boyfriend ALSO gets everything that I want and that I expect.

MachineNew5338 · 2025-07-16T05:17:02+00:00

Bro, men literally have no rights in 2025 and it will get worse. Adapt to the new reality and take position accordingly.

Robotnere · 2025-07-16T19:38:40+00:00

A woman’s mindset: it’s everyone else’s fault not mine.

Modern_Ketchup · 2025-07-16T20:34:25+00:00

I had a former friend yesterday block me because she posts 10-20 memes a day relating to girly things, like “when i realize i hate all men but i still want to marry one”… i’m like yo this not cool stuff. she said i was being insecure and desperate about it. i’ve been abused and cheated out of multiple long term relationships yet this shit never crosses my mind… nothing makes it ok to post hateful content even if it’s a “joke”. i said np i’ll post some jokes about how fat women want the best man (she was large) and instantly blocked. mfer her sister got dick pics on a date we had and only blocked them after i got really pissed off. they enable this behavior then complain about it!!

Vegetable_Ad1732 · 2025-07-16T01:39:47+00:00

Until we win the culture war.

Ulferas · 2025-07-16T07:49:10+00:00

Victim mentality means they don't have to take any responsibility for any wrongdoings. That's why this behavior has become accepted collectively by so many, if you could just cop out and blame your problems on someone else instead of facing any consequences, then why face added struggled in our already harsh world? It's that thought alone that emboldens the mentality weak who are looking for an easy life free from said responsibility to behave this way, and is why women who don't think and act this way should continue to be held in higher regard for not devolving to such behavior. It's insidious how misandry is spread and is laughed at and treated as inconsequential, but that should serve as a reflection of our sick society.

nievesjl · 2025-07-17T03:45:54+00:00

Every time I attempt to challenge the status quo, I face backlash, even when supported by clear, compelling evidence. It often feels like the system is predisposed to dismiss my position. In certain areas, societal narratives have evolved in ways that unintentionally shield some individuals from accountability. For instance, while alimony was originally designed to support spouses, regardless of gender, who were genuinely unable to support themselves, it has increasingly been used in ways that appear to disproportionately benefit women, sometimes at the expense of fairness. This shift raises important questions about equity, intent, and the need for reform that reflects modern realities and mutual responsibility.

Daytona_675 · 2025-07-16T20:34:36+00:00

it's the same handling rules as the handicap kids with anger issues

BodybuilderNo6140 · 2025-07-27T05:15:58+00:00

I’m someone who personally identifies as a feminist: but not an extremist. I believe men being raped is as serious as women, i believe men’s mental health is as serious as women’s, i believe men’s issues are as serious as women’s. unfortunately, people tend to be extreme one way or the other and that’s what’s tearing us apart. From my perspective, I’m seeing it usually happens to be women with BPD (borderline personality disorder) who seek validation through the internet, with these women, they want to be the victim (or perhaps a “survivor”) to get themselves as much attention and validation as possible. with the illness BPD, these people think in only black and white. So, if someone has a trait that they know someone else they’ve already deemed as “bad” also has, in their mind, that means EVERYONE with that treat is also just as bad. even if it’s a harmless trait, and even if it’s just “being a man”. The disorder “BPD” also causes these people to think of THEMSELF as “all bad” if they admit that they have made any mistakes or have any bad traits, they also have a shakey ability to have any sense of self, so they attach themselves to concepts or things that they can base their personality on. For many of these women with BPD they choose this man hating “personality” to cling onto so that they can both A) be victimized and B) have a sense of self.

BPD is a Very common disorder, in both men and women, except it presents itself a bit differently in the genders. Women with BPD seek this attention and validation through the internet because it’s easy for them to sit beside a screen and feel power over these people and topics. it’s also a big part of “cancel culture” and most of these extremists. i have had many friends in the past with bpd and they will cling onto my experiences to use them to hate men and spread hate generalizing all men. some of them have even gone as far as to pretend that my experiences also happened to them after i’ve told them about it.

people with BPD have such a shakey grip on reality that they will fully convince themselves of their lies, they can even develop PTSD from their own deluded realities.

all this to say: most of these extremists are mentally ill and they truly believe that this deluded reality they live in is the world that we ALL live in. it’s harmful for both themselves and others, and most of all for those who are close to them. When you see women online speaking like this and spouting hate like this, it’s likely that’s what they are suffering from. It is possible for people with bpd to go into remission through DBT therapy, except (like i said earlier) they cannot accept they’ve ever done anything harmful, because in their mind, that means they are an all bad, evil person, who deserves nothing.

this comes out similarly in men who self identify as incel, or believe in that belief system. they’re two sides of the same coin, the extreme sides of the same spectrum. all the “hate men” or “hate women” Very often stem from BPD or other types of cluster B disorders (usually if you have one you have others) and then they just fuel each other in hating the opposite gender even more by continuing to be hateful and harmful to each other. Then the normal men and women get caught in the crossfires.

I just want to point out, not every feminist believes those extreme “ideals” just as not all men believe the opposite extreme “ideals”. when you see anyone on either “man hating” or “women hating” side just know it’s likely due to mental illness. if anyone if curious to learn more i’m more than happy to provide more insight on this. it’s more common than anyone thinks and it’s more harmful than the average person thinks.

AndyRoo2023 · 2025-07-16T05:39:39+00:00

If you ask women these questions in this subreddit, they'll just generally agree with you that 'things shouldn't be this way'...because virtue-signalling is easy for women to do online.

Nothing will change simply by women giving you the answers you want, in the moment.

i_am_an_enigma · 2025-07-16T12:18:59+00:00

I shed a tear at my desk! Can everyone in this subreddit give this man a round of applause please! 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

Never_Pretending · 2025-07-17T21:24:55+00:00

If it isn’t obvious by now that women are highly materialistic and narcissistic it never will be lmao. There has never been a mystery here, they are just cruel.

Dark_Prince_of_Chaos · 2025-07-17T17:27:37+00:00

Shame is women's main weapon.

It is also narcissists weapon and i'd argue that 90% of today's women are narcissists.

Adventurous_Tree1638 · 2025-07-18T11:38:30+00:00

No one’s asking you to fix women’s problems. Women just want to be feel safe in society.

Living_Education6294 · 2025-08-11T10:14:51+00:00

I’m a feminist and I will answer some of these questions, if you have any questions then feel free to ask.

“Feminism is about equality but has the word female in the name” yes it does since throughout history woman weren’t given there rights.

“Misogyny kills and misandry hurts feelings” Yeah homicides are not the only cause of death. Misogyny also includes but is not limited to, rape, drugging, killing woman for rejection, etc and can you tell me how misandry directly physically hurts men? (Misandry does exist)

Also not all feminist talk about how shitty men are

CanOutrageous7665 · 2025-07-16T08:21:17+00:00

Woman here ♀️:

First of all I'm going to start by saying not every woman thinks in these ways you mentioned above about her problems, men's problems and the rest. Those who do mostly lack the maturity to admit some things but also thing is, ever since you're a little girl everyone in your family usually will act as though you're made of glass and constantly warn you of how dangerous men and even boys are, little girls are never given a break about it, when you're a kid stuff gets in your head differently than when you're an adult and it tends to stick there stronger. Then let's not pretend as if when you become a teenager and start getting interested in men it goes soooo smooth from first tries and relationships to make you think men are so great(surely it goes both ways), especially not during the years where the human ego is most fragile and in peak development. Most teens of both genders tend to be weirded out by the opposite gender outside of physical attraction and societal expectations that they should start getting together, and it's normal, it's a rough time when you want others to understand you and your needs more than vice versa, so frustrations appear super easily revolving the opposite gender, then depending on experiences you might very likely lose respect for them or go "bros over hoes"(woman version too) and other stuff like that, your same sex friends will generally only strengthen this belief that opposite gender is somehow so weird or bad or whatever mean things teens say about each other and how they're not worthy and you should only care for your interest like sex if you're a male and getting with a rich good family guy if you're female, the priority shifts from being curious about how people of opposite gender usually see and experience the world, what struggles they have, etc and getting to know them beyond just what their gender brings new to you, to simply how this person can be of best use for you and you keep going through life thinking mainly like that about your opposite gender(yes, both genders do this, I've seen it sososososoososososo often I'm sick of it myself in both of them).

I don't believe men are any less judgmental or biased than women, or that women are any less prone to do evil than men, truth is, an immature or truly evil and selfish person will do bad things no matter their gender and the majority of people are biased, maybe not about everything but oh boy, you can bet opposite gender is one topic people tend to be extremely biased about.

The solution to gender bias related problems and misunderstandings is finding a balance between giving people of opposite gender a chance to prove you they're not as you tend to generalize them to be and keeping yourself safe enough in case they do turn out how you generalized them to be AND then repeating it without strengthening your generalisations and bitterness for them with another one, it's not an easy task, I admit and generally is hard to get truly close on an interpersonal level to someone of opposite gender, there are many barriers getting in the way. Just remember this frustration and generalizing of half the population won't really do you any good in the end, after all, can you really say someone of same gender deserves any less assumptions of being a bad person than someone of opposite gender? Ask yourself if you would truly trust a person of same gender that you just met to be a good person JUST because of their gender. Realistically someone of same gender is more likely to enter in competition with you over partners, achievements, looks, jobs, than someone of opposite gender, that's how it always goes in nature and humans are no exception. Another thing: the gender perception and situations aren't the exact same in every country, most of the problems men talk about here are mostly prevalent in western countries, US and Australia, but I can guarantee things aren't the same everywhere in the world, not saying is not ok to talk about these issues because really what I've seen to be going on in some of these places is something insane and it should definitely be addressed, but I wish people would be more aware or at least questioning if things really are the same in every place in the world before making generalisations involving every person of opposite gender in the world, not just those from their country.

Accurate_Wedding_869 · 2025-07-24T07:19:17+00:00

But why do you think no one cares?

FrostingPlenty4801 · 2025-07-23T23:49:15+00:00

Men really love to self victimize. Like stfu no one cares. Men’s rights activists are so annoying.

nebulousrealist · 2025-07-16T12:16:51+00:00

I personally don't agree with the statements you've presented that you're assuming all women are a monolith. I'm struggling to answer something I see as fundamentally false. All other women I choose to befriend hold the values that:

issues stem from complex social inequalities in which socialised gender roles, often crafted by a smaller group of empowered people trickles down into 'shoulds' - those 'shoulds' trap everyone.
intrafamilial abuse is a core reason why people blame, deflect and abuse.
life is complexly traumatic for everyone and this is only increasing with globalisation
anyone who wants to blame an entire population lacks emotional and intellectual opportunities of growth and has to rely on cognitive short cuts, cherry picked information, and personal experiences to make sweeping generalisations
feminism has different subcategories and 'I feminists' will disagree with radical feminism as male and trans exclusionary (you don't fight the patriarchy by cresting a matriarchy)
it's far more useful to create a collective responsibility of mutual responsibility, accountability, and hearing peoples suffering, no matter the source.
recognising pain, suffering, exclusion, disconnection is exceptionally complex and we have a social responsibility to care for fellow humans and keep ourselves safe from people who refuse to be accountable for themselves, regardless of sex or gender

So, I struggle with the stance of 'why is nothing ever a woman's fault?' When there are so many examples where women are seen as ar fault, and so many where men are seen as at fault.

One example being menstruation exclusion.

The best thing I can say it consider the types of women you're drawn to and how similar are they to women in your family, who may be abusive, dangerous, narrow minded and very wedded to female and male distinctions. Try to explore and make connections with women who don't fit your current experience / media consumption and move out of a 'comfort zone' of thinking all women act think and feel in the same way. We know men aren't a monolith, so why are women?

If you have abusive women in your life, just know that they aren't all of us, but they certainly are some of us. As is the same with men.

calculatingcaote · 2025-07-16T19:06:58+00:00

Since you asked for a woman’s perspective I would like to answer, a lot of what you have spoken about here is stuff that sounds directly fed to you through online forums were people say crazy stuff unfiltered.

Alot of this I haven’t heard of or understand so I think I am in a different corner of the internet to you, however the one thing I would agree with is the men causing mysandry and misogyny, because yes a woman who grows up seeing others abused horribly by men may grow up hating men, that is a direct causation created by men, also while misogyny is perpetrated by both genders obviously the hate comes a lot more from the men side then by woman hating other woman. If that makes sense.

As for every thing else I’m not sure where it’s come from and iv honeslty seen more of the opposite, Im a feminist and I often see woman stand up for male victims of SA more then men, (men telling young guys that’s being SA’d by older woman, or a woman that’s hot is cool and not SA and so on) but again I’m on the opposite side of the internet to you. Our social media is feeding us such different stuff and deviding us to the point we stop seeing each other as people, I’m sorry you feel isolated from woman but just know this is the rambling of crazy people and we dont all think this at all. You’re a person who deserves to be heard validated and seen as much as every one else, as a woman and a feminist I really do mean it when I say I want equality.

Just try not to listen to extremist views on gender and only surround yourself with people who are level headed, most woman just want to be loved and find some one that understands them the same as you. A lot of woman get hurt in horrific ways and turn to extreme views against men as coping mechanism from what iv seen, but Again apologies for the weirdos saying that stuff, hope you dont listen to them anymore and see them for what they are, just more oddities on the internet haha

Single-Break-1583 · 2025-07-20T18:34:05+00:00

😂😂😂

Automatic-Will-3834 · 2025-07-22T19:07:21+00:00

The solution is to stop being chronically online and go touch grass and interact with people irl (respectfully). You see millions of loud voices on the internet everyday which sensationalizes these issues and make them seem more prevalent than they really are. Piecing together hundreds of different opinions into one generalized ideology. That’s the danger of the internet, you get access to billions of opinions and usually only see the craziest ones because they get the most traction/attention. Live in the real world and stop looking for things that make you upset.

biomed1978 · 2025-07-23T14:59:08+00:00

We pay for the bad deeds of our ancestors, of our brothers, fathers, uncles, neighbors, etc. There is no clean slate. Society wants go from one extreme to the next. The only real solution, IMO, is to individually do what we can to level the field. Don't go to an extreme. People act crazy, stay away from them the best you can. Follow your conscience and have integrity. Teach your children to do the same. Maybe everything will even put in a generation or 3..

Legitimate-Fan7146 · 2025-07-16T06:41:39+00:00

Woman shouldn’t have rights.

AffectionateTry6175 · 2025-07-17T00:50:49+00:00

I feel like you either spend way too much time on the internet or haven't ever spoken to a normal woman. Most normal people would agree that taking advantage of or hurting someone is wrong, regardless of gender. Misandry does exist on an individual basis, but it is no where the same level as misogyny. Men commit more crime, commit more murder, commit more rapes, etc. It logically makes sense for a woman to be scared of men, hell, you should be scared of them too. Out of the two, you're more likely to be hurt by another man than a woman.

Most of men's issues talked about are due to misogyny. Men get harsher sentences because they are viewed as "stronger and inherently more dangerous" under misogyny. Men have to sign up for the draft and women typically get better custody agreements over children because of the stereotypical gender roles of "man = strong protector and woman = mother or caretaker" perpetuated by misogyny. Men who are victims of SA are often ridiculed or not believed because misogynists think it is inconceivable that "a strong man can be taken advantage of by a weak woman".

All of this to say, that doesn't make sexism from woman any more acceptable. Screaming "kill all men" and such is misandry, not feminism. Speak to a real feminist and not the pink pilled lunatics crying into the void. Yes, the actual definition of feminism is equality of the genders, even though female is in the name. No one is inherently bad just based on their gender. We are all functioning under the same society, and although it affects the genders differently, it's everyone's job not to perpetuate the problems. Playing the blame game with half the population isn't the way to go either.

Fantastic_Captain · 2025-07-17T12:59:09+00:00

You may have gotten removed not because of the specific question but because a significant amount of your Reddit history seems to be a constant pattern of frustration towards women and gives off strong incel vibes.

Most of this post isn’t even a question, it’s a rant.

What societal problems would you like us to fix and how should we go about doing it?

The one thing I don’t love is the crochet pussy hat marches because I think they defeat the purpose of seeing us as more than pussy hats. “No, I’m not getting up early this weekend to push us backward as a gender. But I’m going this week to talk to girls about getting more into the trades?”

I’m all for men’s rights, just like I am women’s. There are 100% things women do that irk me. I just want to know what in your mind, I can do to stand up for men’s rights?

First-Ad3563 · 2025-07-17T16:15:37+00:00

About the show of frustration bit: Think of it this way. Women are in the position they're in because men have been controlling them for most of recorded history. They've previously (before the last couple generations) had little to no agency. It was literally men who made it so women couldn't own land, vote, have a bank account, get divorced, etc etc etc. Men choosing to trap women in the home with no way out, basically treating them as subhuman. Generation after generation of mistreatment, and women passed down those lessons to their daughters.

Now that we all have a kind of window to the world in our pockets, even if they happen to not read up on history much, women can communicate with other women across cultures and realize that its the same everywhere. They're also able to see how men talk about women when they "aren't there." And what are a lot of men very loudly doing? Insisting on rolling back the rights they've gained only so recently. Making rape jokes. Acting like they're owed access to a woman's body. Literally screaming "your body, our choice." And seeing all the men in the comments laughing it up.

So yeah, for some, saying horrid shit back feels good. For some its the only way they have to vent the rage of countless generations of women being treated as subhuman to this very day. Like its still ongoing.

That being said, the feminists I follow do truly want and preach equality. They take mens abuse seriously. They want men to be allowed to have feelings other than anger. They dont want men being used as pawns in war.

Misogyny kills because its usually men killing women. Men die more often from homicide, but its not at the hands of women, its at the hands of other men, thats why they say misandry just hurts feelings.

And my brother, please, how on earth are women supposed to fix anything when they dont have the legal power to? Theres not enough women in office to even be able to keep rights to their own bodies. Not because they dont run, not because they dont have women voting for them, but because so many men refuse to vote for them simply because they're women. Men have been the ones in power for ages and this is where we're at. The few rights women had being stripped away again. Thats why women are asking men for help. Because women have started feminist movements time and time again, all over the world, and as soon as they gain a little traction and show their worth, men become threatened. They realize they might lose their job to a woman, or they want to maintain financial dominance and they come together to knock women back down a peg.

Man you just gotta trust that when you see feminist content online, its probably going to be the more extreme fringe stuff because thats what gets clicks. Most feminists I know, most feminist content I read, etc etc is not about hurting men. It is extremely empathetic. It just takes intention to fix your algorithms and find the real shit.

shannon_nonnahs · 2025-07-16T18:30:15+00:00

Title	Why is seemingly nothing ever women's fault?
Author	TheBlxd3
Upvotes	619
Comments	137
Date	July 16, 2025 12:29 AM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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