As a White Man, Black Women get hated for no Reason, and i never understood why this is.

wtknight · 2024-06-17T11:14:00+00:00

Removed. No posts about race.

kongeriket · 2024-06-17T07:29:28+00:00

As a Reference, my experience was made in Switzerland, all of those Black women were half or fully black. All of them were from Africa by origin, if that matters.

It absolutely does.

Most of the articles on the Internet who reference black women in the context of dating refer nearly exclusively to black women born and raised in the USA.

Black women in Europe are a whole different ballgame. And there is also a lot more diversity between them as well (due to very different upbringing - Africa is also a culturally diverse continent).

BoomTheBear86 · 2024-06-17T08:10:00+00:00

Not to say that it isn’t applied elsewhere or that black women elsewhere are free of such, but a lot of this is cultural and not racial and specifically to do with African-American women and generalisations/stereotypes of their behaviours.

It seems like a broader brush stroke because often the men engaging in these stereotypes (be they fair or otherwise) assume that this is how “black women are” based on their experience/perception of African American women alone.

It’s bizarre. Like, there’s a degree of acceptance that for example the white American is going to be unlike the white Brit, who is unlike the white German who is unlike the white Australian. But for some reason it seems like far too many Americans seem to assume that their particular cultural mix of black individuals are “THE black people” and that’s it. The negative stereotypes of both black men and women follow thusly.

African black women, or even Caribbean black women for example, do not really adhere to any of the frequent “this is why we hate black women” stereotypes that are thrown about. I’d argue that not even most American black women do either, my point is people seem to miss that in my opinion more of a cultural thing than a racial one.

You seem the same stereotypes and behaviours in other racial groups in America who grow up in similar circumstances. That little fact seems to escape these people and they still think “it’s a black thing”. Nah. It’s a social-economic American thing which has become very entangled with the racial side of things but you only need to look at black women outside of America to understand it can’t be a racial thing.

I work with many black African women living in the UK. They’re nothing like these stereotypes. If I was generalising, I’d say overall in my context, they seem more into traditional marriage structures and more averse to casual sex. They tend to be quite ambitious in terms of career and education. They tend to have very good work ethics and are quite “old fashioned” in many outlooks culturally. For example raising children, roles of a man and women etc.

TheDeadReagans · 2024-06-17T07:43:05+00:00

Visible minorities across the board have a rougher go at it but I'm fairly certain black women have it worst among women.

The men here won't admit it most conservatives don't like black people in general and most men are conservative.

Edit: Before anyone responds, this subreddit has a pretty big problem with women refusing to acknowledge that men have it tougher in the dating arena. We should practice a bit of self awareness here and admit that black women have it pretty rough - but relative to other women, when it comes to dating.

Tight_Lawfulness3206 · 2024-06-17T07:14:10+00:00

Why black women and Asian men are at a disadvantage when it comes to online dating

https://www.thestar.com/life/why-black-women-and-asian-men-are-at-a-disadvantage-when-it-comes-to-online/article_c28d746b-2c0a-537a-a1f4-3bc72250bb48.html

Due_Job_5060 · 2024-06-17T08:29:05+00:00

These topics rarely get decent answers. I have noticed white American men in particular have a VERY WEIRD and socially awkward type personal beef against black women. And I say this as a white-passing argentian American man who travels ALOT. I have noticed asian, arab, black , indian men are NOT as weird towards black women as white specifically white American guys are. This is definitely a political brainwashing and racism problem. White guys also tend to ignorantly obsess over the size of black guys' dicks and think black women assume they have smaller penises but they will never admit that and just say "black girls are ugly".

AidsVictim · 2024-06-17T08:22:24+00:00

Now can someone explain to me why Black women are hated? For what?

It's a combination of black social collapse where there's a lot of bitterness among some black men and women towards each other (personally it's pretty easy to see why black women might be bitter), being perceived as more rude/aggressive (you explained this as just being more "direct" but it easily tips into being rude), and politics (racism but also black women being highly visible in left liberalism).

Black women not being seen as "attractive" as some other groups isn't necessarily hate as much as indifference or preference.

BushidoX0 · 2024-06-17T08:07:45+00:00

I'd say we should distinguish between Black ladies raised in states and everywhere else

Aside from places like London which tend to inheret the ghastly culture, European black women are great as well as black women from East Africa and quite a few other places

It is the specific North American culture which is so detestable

jazzmaster1992 · 2024-06-17T08:29:48+00:00

This post will probably get deleted because there is a rule against threads about race and dating.

But yes. Race plays a huge part. Apparently FDS users skew largely African-American, and there also seems to be a trend of men of color in the current "Manosphere". There is likely some reason why we seem people of color, especially in the USA, get drawn into these kinds of ideologies which urge them to prioritize themselves and try to "game" the dating market the best they can, even at the expense of the opposite sex. I'm not exactly sure why that is, though.

ExcelsiorState718 · 2024-06-17T10:31:24+00:00

If a man says he's 6'6" I can't take anything he says about relationships seriously...Also what kind of BW are you talking about .Because Uganda isn't the same as Atlanta..in fact after spending several years in Africa I could never date a western woman don't I dont even find them attractive.

At your height you're going to get the best behavior from women they will litteraly dig in the back of their closet and pull out their personality for you.

Your experience with women is going to be vastly diffrent than an average height or shorter guy ...also a slav is considered white and BW treat White men better than they treat BM.

You should do way more research before even speaking on this topic.Watch all the delusional BW on Kendra G or Kevin Samuels single moms wanting men earning in the top 1%..in their 30s and 40s, 50s abd the younger ones are ridiculously immature..

There's videos out where women choose scammers and drug dealers over 9-5 guys...they are broken the community is broken, there is no community and a 6'6" Croatian has no idea what an average BM has to go through when dealing with BW and this is why there's passport bros in fact in the last 5 years every BM I know that got married has gone over seas.

Lol and nobody hates them except their baby daddy the rest of us the smart ones just ignore them.

operajunkie · 2024-06-17T10:32:22+00:00

As a 4’11 black girl who dates college educated white men exclusively I always find these little circle jerks amusing. I’ve never struggled to attract male attention or be seen as feminine, the only people who would see me as manly are just flat out racist.

Most of the things you bitch about when you make sweeping generalizations about black women have to do with class/education and not race. Maybe stop hanging around the hood and or trailer park.

ilike18yoblackpussy · 2024-06-17T10:54:54+00:00

Its caused by racism, self-hatred (in the case of black people attacking black women), and unemployed trolls who make a living posting controversial content and/or being police Cointelpro agents deliberately undermining the black community.

Also, most of the people talking bad about black women are referring specifically to black American women. If you're from Switzerland, you're probably not dealing with black American women. You're dealing with women from Africa who have different cultures.

Black people are a very wide category, with lots of different cultures and the different cultures have different behaviors, on average.

Plus even black Americans alone don't all act the same.

Cablepussy · 2024-06-17T09:18:35+00:00

This is an issue specifically about black women raised in the USA with that prefaced the issue is multifaceted.

One of the biggest issues is the collapse of the black nuclear family in the US.

It keeps blacks disproportionally high for everything remotely bad, their women are more likely to be single mothers, their children specifically their boys are more likely to become gang bangers because of not having an actual father figure, the above makes it so any rational successful black family in the US literally leaves their black community like they're trying to escape from North Korea; it's such a meme that rappers are literally made fun of for going back to the hood once they "make it".

The second biggest issue is the glorification of debauchery and lack of morals in their communities.

Black women are more likely to get with a drug dealer than with a lawyer because the drug deal has drug dealer clout. Some of them even refuse to get with a man if he hasn't "capped" someone or multiple people; we're talking about women who don't want to get with a man because he hasn't killed someone.

They also glorify rappers who glorify gang violence.

They tend to be more violent because they're raised in broken and abusive households.

Their parenting skills can sometimes be described as "ratchet".

All of this said this is only the tip of the iceberg for this particular issue but the end result is that black women from the US are largely belligerent and unpleasant to be around compared to any other ethnicity of woman on this earth.

Due_Job_5060 · 2024-06-17T08:40:11+00:00

I have also seen white men (again American context) with normal social skills and are healthy immediately suddenly become "autistic-like" if not close to retarded whenever a reasonably attractive non-mixed black woman walks into the room. I know this because I have friends who are black (not mixed, monoracial) women. They testify the exact same thing and even friends of mine who ARENT black women at all, testify the EXACT same thing (how weird white american guys act towards or around black women).

The only way I can describe it is that these guys seem to get incredibly angry or uncomfortable and awkward when they see a black woman who is "not supposed to be attractive, actually be surprisingly attractive " type mentality. I never see hispanic/indian/ etc other guys do this to the extent that white guys do this .

My brother is dating a black woman who looks like nicole beharie and when they went to a farmer's market and show in Idaho, the white men there acted very strange towards her. But her cousin who was there with them who is heavily fat and visibly less facially harmonious than her, did NOT get the same weird incel like behavior from white men. They weirdly only do this with attractive black women and not unattractive black women. I have also seen white men excessively stare at black women who are reasonably attractive and NEVER approach or make their move and keep on doing the weir dincel behavior thing. Again, I DONT see arab,hispanic,black guys acting like this. It is always white guys.

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laydeefly · 2024-06-17T10:30:15+00:00

Black women are actually high key desired by many races. This post turned into a place to dump and lie about Black women. That’s unfortunate.

bluepvtstorm · 2024-06-17T10:51:39+00:00

In this group specifically the white men hate when I refute them in any way with actual facts. Just yesterday I was called a piece of shit for providing data and facts about the black experience and privilege when I was quite frankly the most polite I have ever been because I am trying to help people understand vs being combative on this particular subject

White men as a whole refuse to accept or acknowledge when black women tell them their truth. What black women know to be true early always seems to be new information

All the conversations the men have in this space about how feminism has only benefited one specific group. We knew that and we told you that and we told you how it was going to play out and nobody listens.

We know exactly how untrustworthy white women are in even their own social circles. We tried to tell people, no one listens.

Black women never get the benefit of the doubt and the media portrayal of us does no one any favors.

Black women have some of the lowest sexual partners because of so much shame and stigma attached to any behaviors. However, black parents do not allow abortions due to their church beliefs or the whole if you grown enough to have sex you grown enough to raise a baby.

I promise you, there are more black women who fit the “requirements” that some of you are looking for than you would ever know but the media portrayal and some unconscious bias would never even put them on your radar.

One thing I know to be 100% true as a black girl that went to a predominantly white school. The white girls were performing oral treats and sexual acts long before I was even allowed to be alone on a car date but let them tell it they have never seen a penis.

From the time they can reach a sink, black women are taught to clean, nurture and take care of every male that comes across her path. Think of the receptionist and admins and all the black women you work with. They are hardly ever combative in the work space because they don’t have that luxury and when a white woman cries against a black woman she will always be perceived as angry.

White womans tears are weaponized against everyone not just men and when a white woman feels threatened in the work place by a black woman, they will do everything in their power to get rid of her or make her look incompetent.

So again this is not new information. It’s just the branding is bad.

FebruaryEightyNine · 2024-06-17T10:59:06+00:00

Lol what a pathetic thread and of course the little jab at black men.

Black women being "unnecessarily hated on" I largely due to the white western world systematic destruction of their image. Last I checked it was largely white owned western media companies who peddled the "ghetto hoochie" single mother of five kids, strong black woman archetype.

Its hilarious when adequate white men push this laughable narrative that black women are oh so demonized (especially by pesky black men) as if the last 100 years didn't happen. Though I'm sure you'll find some femcels to take the bait, luckily real life black people aren't as forgiving of white interlopers who try to push anti black bullshit under the guise of "anti racism" often just in a desperate attempt at signalling for some dick/pussy.

FebruaryEightyNine · 2024-06-17T11:09:47+00:00

This topic always amuses me as the bulk of the comments always seem to come from redpillers/incels. For any non white people who cling to those ideologies, these discussions should offer proof of what a pathetic, debased, porn obsessed, useless cretinous sacks of garbage your redpill counterparts are.

Vlad_The_Great_2 · 2024-06-17T11:14:04+00:00

I noticed that black people get negative stereotypes associated with them more often than other races. People can’t be bothered to treat you objectively and make assumptions of you and your way of life because your skin color. What blows my mind is when you don’t follow a stereotype, it legitimately confuses people. Whenever dating or sex comes into conversation, suddenly everyone has something negative to say about black women as a whole despite most people making the negative comments never actually dating a black person before. Everyone magically knows statistics they never actually verified or looked into, if it can prove a racist talking point.

Electric_Death_1349 · 2024-06-17T07:22:50+00:00

A person not wanting to date a particular demographic doesn’t mean that they hate said demographic

Upset_Material_3372 · 2024-06-17T08:34:06+00:00

Unfortunately there are just traits about some races that can (generally) hurt or help them black women and Asian men are the 2 least liked by all other races including their own. they simply possess traits that are just not very desirable compared to other races.

It sucks but you can’t change that different people’s have different traits.

No-Breath6663 · 2024-06-17T10:23:25+00:00

There's a ton wrong with this post, so prepare yourself "6'6 Croatian aggressive kickboxer"

which describes Black Women as some unbearable, undesirable Woman and over masculine woman.

Statistically they are among the least desired race of women, along with Indian women and Samoan women. It's not a "trend" it's a simple reality. I don't care who is offended by this.

Furthermore, "black people" is a general umbrella term. In reality, 95% of the time when people say "black people" they're referring to west African descendant dark skinned ethnic groups. So that's who I'll be talking about.

These "black people" are the LEAST sexually dimorphic ethnic group on earth on average. Meaning the men and women are closer to one another than the other ethnic groups. Black men tend to be smaller, and black women tend to be bigger, when we're looking at genetic averages. In other words, black women ARE more masculine by and large than other women. It's not a question of stereotype, it's simply more likely to be true.

Black Women are more "Vocal" if something is not ideal, i wouldnt call it rude or anything, just more direct.

They are, on average, lower IQ whilst being more masculine. These traits make them more commonly and more likely to be the type of woman men do not enjoy the company of. Because often times they will be "vocal" in a masculine, rambunctious, and irritating way. Rather than a way of kindness and softness.

Black Women mostly like the "hypermasculine" archtype, i for example am a 6'6 croatian dude who isnt a prettyboy or anything and i look pretty aggresive (i just look like you're prototype kickboxer slav haha), they dig that.

This is objectively false. Populations tend to strive for the genetic average of a given group. Black Women tend to be the most masculine group of women, and therefore do NOT seek the most masculine form of men typically. As a matter of fact, they're far more likely than other ethnic groups to find less masculine men attractive, as it is more likely to maintain genetic averages of a given population group. Which is why the dimorphism in this ethnic group is so comparatively low.

Also, nice humble brag about the stuff you think is cool bro. But in reality, being 6'6 is not considered attractive so if it's a larp you should try to bring that down to 6'0 next time instead.

Black Women need "longer" till they respect you, Black Women in my Opinion are very hard to trick, if you're some clown who plays Games, or is just a dork in general, Black Women will smoke you the easiest.

Entirely false. Black Women by and large have the highest body counts of any group of women, and are easier to sleep with and get relationships with on average. This is a simple statistical fact. Couple that with IQ differences, and the fact that IQ in men is a wildly popular trait, it also makes them one of the easiest groups of women on average to gain respect from.

But if a Black Women respects you, she loves you on a different Level. She will literally do ANYTHING for you. They mostly just need more time till they fully love you.

Lower IQ and income is associated with greater odds of infidelity. Higher number of sexual partners is as well. Nothing you're saying is supported by science at all.

As a Reference, my experience was made in Switzerland, all of those Black women were half or fully black. All of them were from Africa by origin, if that matters.

Your experience is, frankly, worthless. Switzerland is not a country with a native black population. (Native meaning naturalized over a few generations)

As a result, all of the black people you encounter will almost entirely be comprised of legal immigrants. Legal immigrants have a general selection bias for higher IQ, higher socioeconomic status, higher physical attractiveness, and etc as compared to the native population of the country they're in. This is because of the selection process to gain citizenship.

In EVERY country where black women are a native population group, these traits are not common and therefore they tend to be the one of the least popular ethnic groups of women on average with men as a byproduct.

That said, ethnicity and race is only a reference to frequency of genetic traits in a population and in no way refers to an absolute about any individual. Racism is bad, and many black women will be super attractive, intelligent and romantically popular. In no way is my post trying to insinuate otherwise. I am merely pointing out the reality of genetic averages and statistics and what they mean in general relating to what the OP has said.

NightCapNinja · 2024-06-17T07:43:22+00:00

Probably because Black women are too masculine, which makes them look unattractive

RevolutionaryJob7908 · 2024-06-17T08:41:58+00:00

I went out with one once. It wasn't the best experience and she was hot. Narrow down there but she expected $$ too much in things, and they can be nasty (spin disks another guy same day) then freak out when you break up. Get super vocally mad. I wouldn't do it again because their farts smell really bad. Maybe fix all these things before meeting a guy again who wants to try it out. Advice.

But I can't speak for foreign cultured, just americanized. also I only went with one. That was my experience 🙄

Jonny2266 · 2024-06-17T09:12:10+00:00

Those stereotypes are for women in the US, not Europe or Africa, and, even there, it's more of a class and socioeconomic issue while still also being a gross generalization by dudes "redpilled" by the Black manosphere during the pandemic.

AreOut · 2024-06-17T09:28:17+00:00

Black Women mostly like the "hypermasculine" archtype, i for example am a 6'6 croatian dude who isnt a prettyboy or anything and i look pretty aggresive (i just look like you're prototype kickboxer slav haha), they dig that.

I'm 6'2 with a strong build and yes they do prefer it way more than white women who are currently mostly into bearded skinny guys.

No_Insurance_7674 · 2024-06-17T08:01:00+00:00

They're less subservient

Title	As a White Man, Black Women get hated for no Reason, and i never understood why this is.
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Date	June 17, 2024 7:08 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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