CMV: Post wall Women have the same mentality as Incels

sublimemongrel · 2018-05-19T17:07:09+00:00

This is so broad with just the label of “post wall women.” I personally am over 30, and although most of my female friends my age are married, I had two who were recently single. They both put a LOT of effort into their appearance and dating and they are both now happily LTRd and will probably get married to those men. So I’m not sure which demographic of “post-wall women” you’re referring to. The types you see posted on subs like r/choosybeggars?

SmurfESmurferson · 2018-05-19T15:24:06+00:00

What? Women don't stop making an effort at some magical age.

I ran my first full marathon at 34, FFS

poppy_blu · 2018-05-19T15:43:28+00:00

Do some women use aging as an excuse to stop taking care of themselves? Yes. Do some older women complain about older men and younger women out of a feeling of jealousy? Yes.

That's where the similarities end.

I haven't seen post wall women proliferating internet forums for the express purpose spreading misandry and butchering science to justify their laziness and lack of motivation.

Haven't seen post wall women demanding the government give them sugar daddies and revoke citizenship from hot women so the SMV works in their favor.

I'm not aware that post wall women have started a WGTOW movement.

I'm also unaware of any post wall women driving trucks into crowds and killing people.

Peter5930 · 2018-05-19T18:16:24+00:00

I'm 33 and dating a 42 year old woman who's got a teenage kid and 4 cats. She's delighted to have me as her boyfriend and she puts a tonne of effort into keeping me boyfriended, thus making me delighted to have her as a girlfriend. She doesn't let any wall hold her back or doom her to misery and loneliness. Instead she fucks my brains out at every opportunity and in every way I could want and makes me pancakes afterwards. She knows she's not some 20 year old piece of hot ass who can zero-effort it and still be inundated with offers from guys, so I get to enjoy the luxury of being desired and lusted after and doted on like a hot girl might experience with an older guy, and let me just say that it's awesome and I don't plan on giving it up and I've been with her for 2 years. She's got a great body too, she's not put on any weight with age and is my ideal kind of slim and I love seeing her naked or wearing tight clothes and I love always having full sexual access to her because she's perpetually turned on by me.

susandeath · 2018-05-19T15:25:03+00:00

The difference is that a post wall woman is not sitting on internet forums calling men menoids and planning a government redistribution of them

Post wall women aren't shooting people or driving vans into them.

Post wall women are probably about 10 000% happier than incels

Did I CYV yet?

freejosephk · 2018-05-19T16:45:01+00:00

hot takes by lemonfloss :D

good shit, bro

mrcs84usn · 2018-05-19T17:06:04+00:00

Post wall women still get validation, social interaction, dates, and sex, even if it's often times from the men they aren't completely interested in. On top of that, they don't have to listen to the constantly beating drum that they just need to improve themselves to get any of the things I mentioned.

Dirtbag717 · 2018-05-19T19:03:22+00:00

This reeks of someone who doesn't actually know women, and is just making up incel-esque nonsense to fit his narrative.

aNationofTwo · 2018-05-19T15:45:43+00:00

I have no idea what you are on about. I am 46 and I make an effort with my man. My appearance is spiffy, thanks. My attitude (offline) is sweet and winsome. Ice cream? Seriously? And I do not blame any fictional wall because - how do I put this - I never stopped getting lots of male attention.

Weirdly, people are all different and their lives do not follow a script.

pangeacel · 2018-05-19T19:32:48+00:00

Incels do make an effort from my experience. The vast majority are in school, at the gym, etc - they even have words for these things ie gymcel, STEMcel. The reality is though that these things aren't very helpful for procuring attention from the opposite sex; likely, the best thing is a good social circle. But, that's one of those things that has no real 'method' to procuring and can't really be taught.

Also, post-wall women are nothing like incels. Perhaps they're a little whiny about their prospects, but blackpill nihilism isn't a constant in their lives. The closest thing to incels on the female side would be a TERF - which I guess, is a very specific subset of post-wall women.

xRaceCarYaYasx · 2018-05-19T15:25:50+00:00

post wall women make MORE effort, the struggle is HARDER. That's what the wall means - you had it and it slipped away and now you have to work harder for the male sexual gaze, whether you are married or single.

Your conclusion that the natural attention flees and therefor the women don't care anymore is incorrect. We care, we try harder, we notice our own hurt feelings in our minds. We linger on youth's bounty while doubling down on the gray hair, gnarly knuckles, and frown lines between the eyes.

Are there lazy women who will blame their failure on anytihng they can? yep. Your post has one sliver of truth buried deeply in a bunch of poo.

Maikowski2 · 2018-05-19T18:31:40+00:00

Incels do not get any attention at all. Post-wall women still get plenty. In comparison at least. So that's the problem with your view. But I agree that the mentality of entitlement is a bit similar, so can't argue with that. Just that those women want specific type of men. Incels want ANY girl to like them.

Greedyfriend · 2018-05-20T04:55:45+00:00

Huh? Most incels that I’ve seen LOOK pretty normal. They generally don’t seem to me to be neurotypical. If they want to compete in normie land they need to drop “the world is against me” bullshit and learn how to at least try to fake it until they make it. It’s fine with me if they don’t want to compete in the neurotypical world, they just need to recognize it and own it instead of whining.

Post “wall” married women get lazy just like married men. Forget “sexual market place value “. People get disincentivised and complacent. When they have kids, they get tired and busy. It’s human nature, but needs to be addressed if you are going to try to live your best life.

Post wall single women who want, and are looking for a relationship seem to be willing to expend loads of effort into looking good and putting themselves out there. Some single post wall women like their cats more than men. Ice cream IS delicious. To each his own.

LeJacquelope · 2018-05-19T18:12:18+00:00

ROTFLMAO gasp

Dude, women can go their whole life without sex and not have a damned problem with it. There is no wall for women. Somewhere out there there's a guy who likes any sort of woman, ever. She just happens not to care for him because he's not alpha enough. There are no true female incels - only those who mistakenly identify as such.

The wall is nothing more than a revenge fantasy for men and for women it's a nauseating sense of entitlement in which she feels she's owed the top 10% of men and she blames men for her shortcomings. But she'll get over it - all women eventually do.

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Naebany · 2018-05-19T16:44:40+00:00

And last time I wrote that younger women are less jaded I got downvoted and shamed that they just have more wisdom not to put up with shit men do ;)

wageovsin · 2018-05-19T19:38:37+00:00

or her effort isnt leaning into her gender. althou i also think male virgins idea of effort is leaning into being feminine. incels im not sure as part of the pill is reknowing gender dymorphism and playing to the extremes of gender

truedemocracy3 · 2018-05-19T21:47:15+00:00

There are differences. Incels have never had value and thus lack confidence, expectations, social skills, etc. many post Wall women have had lives of high status and are socialized well but for one reason or another aren't desirable to the mates they want

Both are angry at the world. Post wall women are usually immature. Incels are generally worthless. Both have in common the fact they blame others since it's easier than being responsible for themselves

newName543456 · 2018-05-20T22:38:21+00:00

Post wall women can still easily get laid by thirsty enough betas, so it's not the same, as most incels would not be touched with 10 foot pole by pretty much any woman in the world.

BajaBlast90 · 2018-05-31T03:20:05+00:00

The difference is that post wall women aren't pulling an Elliot Roger shooting spree or driving vans into people.

There, I said it.

Title	CMV: Post wall Women have the same mentality as Incels
Author	lemonfloss
Upvotes	19
Comments	155
Date	May 19, 2018 3:14 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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