Do "nice girls" exist?

YetAnotherCommenter · 2017-09-19T09:02:07+00:00

No one tells girls that guys are sexually attracted to kind and understanding and considerate women. Our culture is very open about the fact that Men Are Shallow.

So I think "nice girls" don't exist. Women have their own problems in the sexual and relationship marketplaces but "nice girlism" isn't a thing. Women are consistently and explicitly given a far more realistic picture of male sexuality than the picture men receive of women's.

SpaceWhiskey · 2017-09-19T09:41:29+00:00

Of course. It's not as common, sure, but there are absolutely unattractive, socially awkward women who don't understand why the men they chase aren't into it. I basically was one when I was a teenager, thankfully I grew out of it.

aretheyaliens · 2017-09-19T08:59:33+00:00

No, because guy will fuck her if she lowers her standards enough. Although very rare, even a millionaire man can be an incel.

LewisCross · 2017-09-19T13:21:19+00:00

Have you ever encountered or been a "nice girl"? That is, have you known or been a girl that felt like they could win someone's heart by being a sycophant and got frustrated or angry when the love went unrequited?

They're all over the place. There's Slut NiceGirls (TM), who feel like they can win Chad's heart by screwing him hours after meeting him, then bitch and complain when the "love" goes unrequited. For the 23rd time.

There's plain old NiceGirls (TM). These girls drop their hints, subtle and not so subtle. Then one day they spill their hearts, telling these men how "Cute" they are and how much they like them (usually through a friend, like a junior high girl would), and when the man doesn't reciprocate or disappears, she shittalks him all over the place and slanders him, what an asshole dickwad he is because he wouldn't date her.

When I was in high school my ex GF tried to set me up with one of her friends to go to prom. I wouldn't go with her because she wasn't all that attractive. Back when people used telephones to actually talk to each other, she was badgering me on the phone -- "why don't you want to?" "Oh, I get it. She's flat chested and not hot enough for you! She's too fat! ASSHOLE! JERK!"

Click.

The next few days I was shamed all over the place by my ex and her friends - "Lewis won't take her to prom! He doesn't think she's good enough for him! He doesn't think she's cute enough for him! SHALLOW ASSHOLE! DICKWEED! PRICK!"

To my face. For a week or so.

So, yeah, there are "NiceGirls (TM)".

BiggerDthanYou · 2017-09-19T09:43:09+00:00

You've got to consider that men and women aren't the exact same. A fitting analogy would be a "cool chick".

A Nice Guy is a guy that isn't actually nice, but acts that way in order to get laid. He will pretend to enjoy listening to her problems and will act as if he's generous in order to attract her. But once he has managed to attract her or once she turns him down his true side will begin to surface. He no longer has an incentive to pretend to be nice and will show that he was an asshole all along.

A Cool Chick is a girl that isn't actually cool, but acts that way in order to get a relationship. She will pretend to like his hobbies, his drug use and jokes and acts as if she loves giving him amazing blowjobs. She will have casual sex with him and claim that she doesn't care that he doesn't want a LTR. But similarly to the Nice Guy there will be one day where she stops pretending to be cool and she will show that she secretly was a nagging bitch all along.

snailypop · 2017-09-19T14:49:03+00:00

I was a nice girl in my last relationship. I think it's natural to try to make people like you buy being nice and doesn't have anything to do with the kind of dating advice you received. However, I think what we were told about women and men determine how we interpret the situation after the fact. For women our explanation is more likely to be "the other girl was hotter" rather than "we were too nice".

Eastuss · 2017-09-19T11:32:43+00:00

Where are all the good men gone?

All men are jerks ~~for standing for what they want~~ ~~for not compelling for what I want~~.

Why can't I find a nice guy

Usually, when nice guys shit on women, it's on nice girls.

zayelion · 2017-09-19T13:22:01+00:00

There is a recent thread in redpillwoman "being black and redpill"; in short yes there is. They are regarded as "submissive". Not hard to find. Honestly most women are "nice". Its their stereotype. Means ones are the oddities.

TheBookOfSeil · 2017-09-19T14:41:00+00:00

If you're talking about the female, fedora-wearing version of an "incel," they might exist, but in very small numbers. I've never encountered one, specifically, but I have encountered girls/women who were disappointed/irritated when I didn't reciprocate any interest in them.

If you're talking about "a girl that is nice," I wouldn't see any problem with that.

larrythetomato · 2017-09-19T20:59:51+00:00

The way people talk about "nice guys", it seems like it's painted as being an exclusively male behavior that no (or almost no) women are horrible enough to engage in. However, I'm sure there are at least a decent number of needy women who also participate in this behavior, right?

I have definitely met a few. It is less creepy. Women are definitely turned off when their man is more into them they they are into him. For men this effect is less. Heck some of my friends are really nice girls and I am totally cool with that. Them being really nice and accommodating would be no impediment to my dick. For most women, the reverse would be a problem.

Have you ever encountered or been a "nice girl"? That is, have you known or been a girl that felt like they could win someone's heart by being a sycophant and got frustrated or angry when the love went unrequited?

Yeh, haven't you heard about this. "Oh he is such a jerk..."

Do you think it's possible nice girls could even be as common as nice guys?

Nice girls are more common. Normal levels of politeness and kindness are positives.

The issue with guys, is that there are far more niceguy™s then there are women who like niceguy™s.

EliteSpartanRanger · 2017-09-19T21:36:39+00:00

Yes they do. I have some friends who are nicegirls and I call them out on it all the time.

tiposk · 2017-09-20T02:00:40+00:00

Have you ever seen a girl who pushes for relationships shortly after going on a date with a guy? A girl who never says "no", fails to establish limits but at the same time avoids anything sexual because god forbid she looks like a ho? A girl who pedestalizes men but at the same time complains that they're shallow and only date unworthy sluts? A girl who thinks that being a virgin or a low n-count woman who's attentive towards her prospective "boyfriends" puts her above any other woman? A girl who might have no issues meeting guys or starting dates but never gets a relationship? That's a nice girl. I've known a few.

OfSpock · 2017-09-19T09:23:41+00:00

Nice girls prey on other women, not men. They are the ones who tell you all their gossip in an attempt to get you to tell them theirs. They hold birthday parties for people over their protests so that people will feel obligated to throw one for them. They will be your friends whether you want them to or not, then you owe them.

Willow-girl · 2017-09-19T12:18:03+00:00

Nice Girls, like Nice Guys, believe they're owed a relationship simply because they're following the rules.

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BPremium · 2017-09-19T12:21:37+00:00

No, "Nice girls" dont exist

Melman195 · 2017-09-19T13:52:45+00:00

Nice girls finish last too. IMO these are the girls that keep going back to Jerks and Assholes even though they should know better.

Sadly these are the ones that end up alone and depressed at age 30 wondering where the quality men are.

It's not that there aren't any, it's that they keep attracting the wrong ones. Simply put you are what you attract and if you are needy (guy or girl) you will attract a bitch or an asshole.

Love8Death · 2017-09-19T15:18:02+00:00

The way people talk about "nice guys", it seems like it's painted as being an exclusively male behavior that no (or almost no) women are horrible enough to engage in. However, I'm sure there are at least a decent number of needy women who also participate in this behavior, right?

Nice guys are men that think sexual attraction is created by being nice and asexual. Cool girls are women that think sexual attraction is created by being cool and asexual.

I feel like we wouldn't hear about "nice girls" because a man is unlikely to find their behavior highly uncomfortable or threatening, due to the power differentials involved. Maybe just annoying at the worst. A man might find a nice girl irritating, but they're not going to fear rape or anything really bad happening to them.

A man should never find a woman really threatening. No idea what you're getting at really. Do you truly fear any woman can rape you? Really?

Have you ever encountered or been a "nice girl"? That is, have you known or been a girl that felt like they could win someone's heart by being a sycophant and got frustrated or angry when the love went unrequited?

Do you think it's possible nice girls could even be as common as nice guys?

They're not as common no. Women tend to be more socially focused so most women figure it out quickly that sexuality is good and useful to embrace.

It's pretty much just the WGTOW sort that hate being sex objects and/or think its wrong or beneath them and so become cool girls as a result.

prodigy2throw · 2017-09-19T15:22:18+00:00

IE fat chicks

DashneDK2 · 2017-09-20T06:56:07+00:00

The difference between nice guys and nice girls is that guys actually like niceness. Nice girls might also expect to get something (relationship, sex) out of being nice, like nice guys do - and they'd generally be correct.

NewAcctEveryDamnDay · 2017-09-20T17:51:22+00:00

"Nice girls", even "ugly unattractive" ones, get men more than nice guys get women so no, they do not exist.

PracticedPrick · 2017-09-22T05:34:32+00:00

Nice guys are very very very simply men who neither instinctively nor intuitively understood attraction from a female perspective.

"Nice Guys TM "are a handy construct to make us all feel better about how society sees no need to mitigate this particular injustice.

The female equivalent would probably be a woman who doesn't realise the importance of looks. Like nice guys didn't realise the important of projecting a high level of self esteem.

pill_throwawaybrp · 2017-09-19T15:03:19+00:00

Career girls.

There are girls who think getting a good job and competing with men will make men think more highly of them or be more attracted to them.

single_use_acc · 2017-09-19T09:41:28+00:00

The opposite of a nice guy isn't a nice girl.

The opposite of a nice guy is a bad girl.

wtknight · 2017-09-19T11:17:14+00:00

Sure, they exist. The difference is that she actually has sex with the guy, then she expects a relationship and gets mad when the high status guy who slept with her won't give her one.

ByronicAsian · 2017-09-19T18:57:11+00:00

My definition of nice girls has forever been changed to this definition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEwAwEuRplI

Title	Do "nice girls" exist?
Author	aretheyaliens
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Date	September 19, 2017 8:56 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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