Motivations Behind Visiting PPD

theambivalentrooster · 2018-01-01T17:11:03+00:00

I come for the sexism but I stay for the sick burns.

pinkgoldrose · 2018-01-01T17:16:28+00:00

I wouldn't say it affects my life, it's more like a useless escape. Easier than reading a novel and less rewarding. Minimal investment and commitment, minimal impact on or connection to real life.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2018-01-01T17:20:57+00:00

i like to argue

Ak_Float_Flyer · 2018-01-01T18:09:57+00:00

PPD is one of the few places on Reddit that isn't a total echo chamber. If someone opens a subject here, they are very likely to be honestly looking for diverse opinions based on differing worldviews; what is sometimes referred to as an "open mind". That condition is nearly unheard of in most feminist and traditional-masculinity forums.

Princeso_Bubblegum · 2018-01-01T17:17:07+00:00

I like to make fun of you all. I don't have any delusions of a greater discussion here, unlike when I argue with TERFs.

I have developed a philosophy over the past few months that for some people, the only way to enact change is to just make fun of them until they aren't retards anymore.

PBRScagsquad · 2018-01-01T18:50:27+00:00

I like arguing and I like ripping into retards.

crackrocksteady7 · 2018-01-01T17:39:13+00:00

i just enjoy telling people how wrong they are

the best moments are when you get someone in a logical trap where you force them to look at the inconsistency between their claimed view and reality

ThrowawayCactus6012 · 2018-01-01T18:43:08+00:00

Why do you visit PPD? Do you occasionally find yourself dejected or put in a foul mood by the opinions expressed here? Why do you keep coming back?

I think many of the issues discussed here are somewhat important from a sociological and political standpoint. A lot of it reflects what is often discussed in political circles and in the mainstream media, and it gives some insight into how some people think and see the world.

I originally came to the "manosphere" when I followed a link from someone who had been posting to the now defunct IMDb message boards. The link was to a site for American expatriates who were fed up with American women and sought out foreign brides from other places in the world.

In that forum, there were some who thought it was a waste of time to date foreign women, since (they argued) female nature is the same regardless of where they live or what culture they've been raised in. That's when I learned about the Red Pill and how they look at the world. A lot of what they said I already knew intuitively, but I was unfamiliar with the terminology and acronyms they often used.

Prior to that, I had been peripherally aware of the Men's Rights Movement - as I encountered a few active supporters (also on the same aforementioned IMDb forum). One of them used to post videos and constantly talk about the double standards of feminism and how women demanded special rights only for women, while not extending the same rights to men. As I read more about the topic, I began to realize just how many men are angry about what's going on in the world of gender issues, dating, relationships, sex, etc.

At first, I thought they were angry about trifles, since there were more important issues to worry about. I've always been somewhat political, but more in the areas of economics, religion, war, and the never-ending clash between right and left. My own parents divorced when I was very young, so I concluded early in life that marriage was a waste of time and energy. I wanted to devote my life to political causes, while inheriting my mother's leftist economics and my father's right-wing patriotism and religious-based social views.

When I found the Red Pill, I thought they had everything backwards, since they seemed to embrace right-wing economics, with a dose of left-wing nihilism and hippie-inspired hedonism, devoting themselves to their own personal pleasures at the expense of joining a cause greater than themselves. But they did seem right about some things, particularly their complaints about feminism and just how cunty a lot of women have become in this country and in other countries. I watched their videos and read their articles which decried story after story of just how fucked up things have become. I previously had no idea just how dysfunctional things had become in this particular area. I also found my way to various MRA and MGTOW forums which seemed to reflect the same worldview and perceptions of gender issues.

I eventually found my way to this subreddit, Purple Pill Debate, because I wanted to see what, if any, response there might have been to the ideas and arguments being raised. The Red Pill and other forums seemed more like echo chambers, and I wanted to see what the other side had to say.

Originally, I was hoping to see some honest and frank discussion about the issues being raised. But instead, I found the same old feminist dogmatism that I've seen most of my life. That, coupled with the kind of juvenile, immature antics one might find among high school kids than among mature adults discussing serious issues. It sometimes feels like watching "Revenge of the Nerds" all over again, which was a dumb movie, yet so many people here seem to think that it's real life. That's the toxic part, as you mentioned.

So, why do I keep coming back? I guess because I can't resist the temptation to go into forums and tell people just how fucked up they all are. If people could be more honest and forthright, rather than constantly posturing with chips on their shoulders, I'd probably lighten up a bit. But I also enjoy stirring the pot a bit, while watching the monkeys howl and sling poo.

I have traveled this world and have talked to people who see things decidedly different than the myopic ways of those of us in the Anglosphere, along with traveling throughout America, including the parts the Coastals scornfully refer to as "flyover country." I see things at a level beyond which most people are capable of seeing, since they're so narcissistically focused on themselves. They think that everyone else is the same as them, when they couldn't be more wrong.

I just think it's necessary to explain it to them and warn them of the potential consequences of living a life without any solid principles or values. In the end, nobody really likes spoiled brat hypocrites, even though they seem to be beloved and favored around here (particularly by the moderators who feel the need to protect them from any hard criticisms).

Iron_Pinecone · 2018-01-01T19:47:05+00:00

Why do you visit PPD?

Some topics are great questions. I like some red pill ideas, but I'm not sure which. This seems like a good point/counterpoint place to explore them. The Red Pill sub is too full of itself and long-winded to be readable (or I just don't have the patience for it; they write some serious scrolls over there). Every good idea will be taken to absurd lengths. They are exhibit A of that.

Do you occasionally find yourself dejected or put in a foul mood by the opinions expressed here?

Sure.

Why do you keep coming back?

You still find a diamond in the dustbin occasionally, and there isn't a lot going on elsewhere.

brokenRecollections · 2018-01-01T20:07:56+00:00

I can forget how awful people are sometimes. This subreddit is good at reminding me.

Anything that promotes hatred toward my fellow human is a boon in that it helps me cope with my loneliness.

PeskyPapaya · 2018-01-01T20:52:15+00:00

I live vicariously through your anecdotes.

cxj · 2018-01-01T21:29:32+00:00

It’s become a crutch for my social life which no longer exists in the terms I want. Getting older it’s harder to make friends, I never thought I’d say this but tbh what I value about my gf right now is that she’s my best friend and the main person I get to hang out with nowadays. My tribe has scattered, and many are incarcerated or perished. Sucks

TheBookOfSeil · 2018-01-01T23:56:00+00:00

I come here to offer a different perspective as well as tell other people that theirs sucks and they can go to hell in an unwashed asshole.

oneprettycoolcat · 2018-01-02T01:19:40+00:00

I don't have anything else to do.

Neoprime · 2018-01-02T02:30:59+00:00

I come here to study a portion of the Man-O-Sphere.

max_peenor · 2018-01-01T18:05:02+00:00

I'm just here for the purge. All other times, you'll are insufferable faggots.

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xRaceCarYaYasx · 2018-01-01T17:12:33+00:00

It's not love if you ain't bleedin

squidracer · 2018-01-01T17:15:26+00:00

I like drama and I've been permanently banned from twoX and relationshits

despisedlove2 · 2018-01-01T17:18:30+00:00

It is fun to argue.

JustAnotherOmegaMale · 2018-01-01T17:30:19+00:00

Validation. Every upvote or reply feeds my considerable ego.

I keep trying to leave but I always come back.

wracky272 · 2018-01-01T17:38:55+00:00

Reddit isn't blocked on our computer system at work. This staves off boredom on the slow days. That's about it for me.

PadaV4 · 2018-01-01T17:39:50+00:00

I think its good to go outside the hug boxes once in awhile and see what the people on the opposite side think.

jax006 · 2018-01-01T18:05:23+00:00

I think that at this point I come here for the confrontation and argument.

But for sure, the reason that I ever got into the pillsphere or whatever you'd call all these retarded psychological speculation forums is because I was never successfull with women when I was younger.

It's kind of odd - i've found that I don't really come here much when I'm in periods where I have a girl around in my life - but times when I feel especially lonely or depressed, I come here all the time. Probably an unhealthy habit.

adrixshadow · 2018-01-01T18:08:27+00:00

To have fun discussing fun topics.

buartha · 2018-01-01T18:10:44+00:00

Why do you visit PPD?

I originally came because I like a good fight sometimes, and stayed because I became friendly with a lot of the other posters

Do you occasionally find yourself dejected or put in a foul mood by the opinions expressed here?

Certain topics upset me, but it's no worse discussing them on PPD than elsewhere. If anything, the edgelord act some people put on makes it harder for me to take them seriously, meaning their comments don't really affect me.

Why do you keep coming back?

I like a lot of the people here, I enjoy arguing and I enjoy seeing why people believe the things they do and how their minds work.

notworthmuch20xx · 2018-01-01T18:13:12+00:00

Why do you visit PPD?

Nowhere else I could discuss these topics

Do you occasionally find yourself dejected or put in a foul mood by the opinions expressed here?

Yes

Why do you keep coming back?

Where else would I go?

[deleted] · 2018-01-01T18:38:15+00:00

To take my mind off of the usual conversations I have throughout the day irl

[deleted] · 2018-01-01T18:38:23+00:00

i like to surprise myself by reading how ignorant and sheltered most redditors are. its can be funny but really sad when i realize some of these people are serious, back before 2015 this place was better; now i can't relate to anyone here but a very few it seems like the rest of the good ones left. the women here seem super sheltered, i know if they lived 1 week in my life most would lose their sanity. the rest don't seem smart at all either, seems like most here never had to think about death, or been in actual live or die fights or live in poverty area's where hearing gunshots is the norm. working hard job's for little money. i don't envy an easy life, i'm grateful for suffering, without hardships i would take all the good things i have not experienced yet in life for granted, but i feel i have gained all the knowledge one can learn from suffering, reading these post here i can imagine how easy life would be if certain circumstances in society we're different.

DemonConsulting · 2018-01-01T18:55:53+00:00

I came here because I like to argue about the obscure topics on here but really I stay and read all the post for the snark and drama.

I mostly visit while on the train, cooking, or in the bathroom sooo it's not like I could be much more productive during that time anyway.

The only time it affects me is if I made a mean comment (mostly late in the evening when I can't be bothered to give a shit) and then the next morning on the train, instead of reading nicer subreddits, I have to deal with that orange envelope in the corner.

truedemocracy3 · 2018-01-01T20:05:32+00:00

I love debate, and I love how open this place is on touchy subjects that you truly cant find anywhere else. Sure, you can talk about it in TRP sub but it's still an echo chamber. Here there is a semblance of balance.

As someone who 'took the RP' in my life I can say it has greatly improved my sex life and how my peers view me. The subreddit also gets a bad rap because it's not sugar coated (it is also full of some angry dudes who vent so some of the reputation is deserved). But hopefully here I can bridge the gap and help others in a way I was helped.

Never put in a foul mood by the opinions here. Takes a lot more than that to get to me.

VoidInvincible · 2018-01-01T20:28:29+00:00

It's like an addiction. One that I hope to fix this year and focus on rebuilding my actual social life.

i_have_a_semicolon · 2018-01-01T22:04:07+00:00

Hmm I'm wondering if I'm a certain active user who avoids topics lol

Yes maybe 25% of PPD interactions make my blood boil and suck hours out of my life. It's affected work, my Relationship, my ability to work on myself.

I keep coming back for many reasons but the main one is dopamine addiction. This is a quick hit, a Reddit addiction for sure, manifested by PPD.

I think that I had to start severely scaling back my interactions here as I can't just NOT RESPOND to threads.

I changed my angle from debating my opinions to making friends

I don't agree everyone is short sighted and toxic. I don't agree everyone just refuses your point and never relents. I can tell when I've won an argument even if the other one doesn't realize it. He will or she will later.

I think I should come on less, but that's hard because I don't post as much as I used to as it is. But in 2018 I have goals and plans to get there. I think committing to ceasing interaction here might free up my time and attention, which is getting so readily sucked by this place. But I like it here.

madscientistlove · 2018-01-01T23:03:43+00:00

PPD doesn't put me in a bad mood. I think it'd be a mistake to take it that seriously. It's just fun to argue, and at this point I've made several friends here so it's fun to chat with them.

I don't think PPD is very representative of real life. You see a lot of really extreme views of reality here.

MercedesBenzoAMG · 2018-01-01T23:35:01+00:00

Honestly aside from enjoying arguing on the internet, I've come to like a lot of the community here and that's really what makes this sub addictive for me compared to other argument subs like CMV for example.

I really should spend less time here in 2018 though, it cuts into my spare time too much, need to be more productive to get rich.

trumputin77 · 2018-01-01T23:50:35+00:00

Men here come looking for answers and Find thst maybe the redpill isn't 100% effective. Women come here to bully and disparage men.

Let's say there was a subreddit for Asian men self improvement. What business does a white guy have on a sub like that ? Same with Women

sadomasochrist · 2018-01-02T00:06:45+00:00

Many years ago I came to help disprove AWALT. I ended up burying myself and eventually brought my own OC.

You can never go back.

I come here to learn. Couple areas at red pill don't have enough content, I get seeds here to grow with.

Merger-Arbitrage · 2018-01-01T20:36:54+00:00

The motivations of the Red men are clear.

It's all of the non-pillers, all Blues and Red pill women who's motivations you REALLY have to wonder about.

Title	Motivations Behind Visiting PPD
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