The redpill only calls out men when it makes them feel superior. They wont call out men when it makes women "look superior".

HumbledKitty · 2026-04-15T12:35:22+00:00

I don't support the Red Pill but to me the last part is a mischaracterization. Men do get less sympathy and help for their issues in society and there have been too many cases of men getting the short end of the stick in divorce courts despite not being to blame or despite being the actual good parent. Men are vilified, women are seen as pure. These preconception need to go. Neither sex is free of faults and we shouldn't think in these extremes.

Whiskeymyers75 · 2026-04-15T13:33:41+00:00

You’re doing exactly what you accused others of. Demanding proof on one side while hand-waving your own claims as “well known.” Saying “not knowing these stats is willful ignorance” isn’t an argument, it’s just a way to avoid actually backing anything up.

And “blame incels for that” is just another deflection. You took a broad issue, male loneliness, isolation, lack of support and reduced it to a fringe group so you don’t have to engage with it seriously. That’s like blaming all women’s issues on influencers or OnlyFans and calling it a day. It’s lazy.

Also notice how the standard keeps shifting. When it comes to men getting screwed in divorce court, now it has to be “generally unfair” with a high burden of proof. But when it comes to claims about men cheating more, abusing more, abandoning kids more, suddenly no nuance, no burden of proof, just accepted as fact. That’s a double standard.

And bringing up racial bias in sentencing actually works against your point. You’re literally acknowledging that systems can have bias and unequal outcomes… but then acting like it’s impossible or unlikely in family courts? You can’t have it both ways.

It’s also worth pointing out that this exact mindset is how people get conditioned into broader biases. It’s the same playbook media has used with race for years, highlight the worst examples, repeat them, strip out context, and people start thinking that represents the whole group. The news did it to black people. Donald Trump does it to immigrants. Now it’s just being applied to men instead. Different target, same mechanism.

At the end of the day, this isn’t about denying women have issues. It’s about the fact that anytime men’s issues get brought up, they get minimized, redirected, or blamed on men themselves. Then people wonder why guys stop speaking up.

If you actually care about “context,” it has to apply both ways, not just when it’s convenient.

Groundbreaking_Can81 · 2026-04-15T15:11:13+00:00

More bad content on this sub

ColonelGray · 2026-04-15T16:00:13+00:00

This reeks of FDS grade slop.

MarioWilson122 · 2026-04-15T18:31:30+00:00

That argument assumes every space has to split criticism evenly, which isn’t how this works. Men are already the default target in most mainstream conversations about dating and relationships. So focusing on women’s behavior isn’t coddling men, it’s addressing what usually gets ignored.

The claim that red pill only criticizes men in ego-boosting ways is also off. Telling men to stop being passive, stop pedestalizing, get in shape, build status, and take responsibility for their outcomes isn’t flattering, it’s harsh.

It just isn’t framed as moral shaming, which is what you seem to expect.The “they avoid calling out immoral men” point misses the purpose entirely. That space isn’t about moral judgment, it’s about outcomes. It looks at cause and effect. Whether a man is “good” or “bad” doesn’t matter if the behavior still produces results.

That’s the lens being used.That view is too narrow because it treats selective focus as bias instead of intent. If one side is already heavily criticized everywhere else, focusing on the other side isn’t avoidance, it’s filling a gap in the conversation.

No-Rough-7390 · 2026-04-15T12:39:00+00:00

Ever heard the pejorative of “simp” or “incel”?

RP does a good job highlighting the extreme amount of power women yield via sex and reproduction and how men screw up their lives worshiping that. So not sure what you mean?

DiligentRope · 2026-04-15T12:29:04+00:00

Because calling out men that commit crimes is a given, everyone is calling them out regardless of RP status.

The reason why RP guys are highlighted when calling out simps and 304s, is because no one else calls them out.

funfacts_82 · 2026-04-15T14:04:17+00:00

TRP is not about calling out anyone. There might be a lot of RP men calling out women but thats because they are dating them.

Why tf would i care what other guys do? Your argument makes no sense.

AMDisappointment · 2026-04-16T02:56:51+00:00

Red pill says sexual strategy is amoral

Novel-Tip-7570 · 2026-04-15T13:44:25+00:00

The red pill in general has a Men are Wonderful mentality just like feminists have a Women are Wonderful mentality. The average red pill male would never admit how pervy, creepy a lot of men can be for example.

nightcall379 · 2026-04-15T12:42:51+00:00

"But the redpill is only about hookups and dating strategies" then they should learn to STFU about other topics.

Who says it's only about that?

The Red Pill is about male/female dynamics and everything that encompasses

The redpill can't get that same sense of superiority when it comes to men who act immorally.

The redpill feels that way because it results in women getting more government help, women getting better deals in family/divorce court, and women getting more sympathy.

Who says women get those privileges because of male immorality, and not because of intentional systemic oppression of men?

anonymousppd123123 · 2026-04-15T12:48:51+00:00

you know, the flip side of greater genetic diversity meaning men occupy the overwhelming majority of the smartest people on earth is that men occupy the overwhelming majority of the dumbest. that all flows into everything nobody likes. this is discussed regularly

Overall I think this behavior comes from an interesting halo effect. TRP is for stem beta AFCs, and they are projecting themselves and the men are around them (other harmless stem betas with good intentions) onto 78 iq Jethro from the "mobile estate community" and Daquarious from the PJs, neither of which have internal monologue much less concepts of intentions

Something that's not discussed here is that the rise of online dating, especially when used for casual stuff, exposes people to class shock, but mostly only for the other sex. So men on online dating trying to bang everything that moves will see a lot of single mom stuff etc that they wouldn't otherwise, but not Jethro etc. The same goes the opposite way with UMC women hooking up with blue collar men

No-Consequence-6513 · 2026-04-15T13:06:13+00:00

Feminists and blue pill never call out women whatsoever.

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bigdonut100 · 2026-04-15T20:48:30+00:00

> "But the redpill is only about hookups and dating strategies" then they should learn to STFU about other topics.

Yeah the reddit definition of "red pill" is sexual strategy, the manosphere definition of "red pill" 10 years ago was "information" and then men choose to become MGTOW or PUA based on it, and preferably be an MRA on top of one of those two things but leave it to the human rights movement to be the least popular.

Because the "other topic" is family court, circumcision, and the draft, and that genuinely is less popular than talking about people getting their dicks wet, and you are no exception.

> they will swear they do criticize men......in a way that can make other men feel superior.

Yeah if it's a "whose more focused on merit instead of feeling superior when criticizing their own gender" contest women are not going to win that, sorry, according to Tom Golden and others, women's primary way of competing with other women is appearance hierarchies, and you shouldn't need a source that men's hierarchies are typically closer to "who can build a better skyscraper."

>Because then consequences of the terrible men is women being seen as "superior". I say "superior" because most people dont believe it makes women superior to men.

Legwork? Sounds like an interesting argument but I have no idea what you mean.

intothewild72 · 2026-04-15T13:05:38+00:00

There is no need for them to do that when mainstream society as whole already does it every moment of every day.

Title	The redpill only calls out men when it makes them feel superior. They wont call out men when it makes women "look superior".
Author	LillthOfBabylon
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Date	April 15, 2026 12:19 PM UTC (3 months ago)
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